Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Eric Cartman]

That's because the media is doing everything in their power to hide the actual views the Nazi peddled. They're doing that on purpose to make him into a martyr. The problem is that the people who actually FOLLOWED him know what he stood for - the death of all queer people, women being forced back into the home, and the suppression of non-white Americans.

He's a fucking Nazi. His wife is a Nazi too, and his kids are statistically likely to grow up to be Nazis as well.

y'know...one of the persistent moral dilemmas in pencil-and-paper RPGs is...orcs or goblins may be ontologically evil, spawn of devils or dark magic, but what do you do when you come across a goblin mother cowering in fear from you, hugging her two little goblin babies?

sounds like smasher has finally resolved that little dilemma once and for all, turns out the answer is actually quite easy! 

Oh, you've read his totally original do not steal world building fictional setting that is like tolkien but better because it punches up?

[DocWager]

Professional killer, or not, you gotta hand it to the shooter. With that kind of accuracy, you'd think his name was Duke Togo.

[Eric Cartman]

don't forget "mUh fREezE PeaCh", "FAFO" and "There's no such thing as cancel culture, its consequence culture"

[Boredfrom]

Professional killer, or not, you gotta hand it to the shooter. With that kind of accuracy, you'd think his name was Duke Togo.

Nah. People are saying was a easy shoot and the distance was nothing outside the norm of hunters.

[Uncle]

Real talk Uncle, you know better than post this stuff at face value, even if you say “just posting what some random dudes in certain forums think”.

I genuinely do not care, especially the context it was posted in, on a forum no one reads, while saying I don't necessarily think it's real, as a random point of interest

this isn't the same as signal boosting it as definitely true to a million people and telling them to hunt this fucker down

there is absolutely nothing wrong with posting it as I did and I'll do it again...in the context that no one will see it, and that I'm not posting it as truth

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/september-10-2025-charlie-kirk-assassinated-at-utah-valley-university-up-suspect-in-custody-do-not-post-videos-of-incident.1294083/page-196#post-145077543

There's a non-zero chance this dude had an Era account...isn't there...

I woke up this morning, heard the news, and checked. At the very least there's no one with that name here.

But I doubt this is the sort of place he'd hang out regardless.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/september-10-2025-charlie-kirk-assassinated-at-utah-valley-university-up-suspect-in-custody-do-not-post-videos-of-incident.1294083/page-196#post-145077543

There's a non-zero chance this dude had an Era account...isn't there...

I woke up this morning, heard the news, and checked. At the very least there's no one with that name here.

But I doubt this is the sort of place he'd hang out regardless.

Holy shit.

[D3RANG3D]

Was it a bluesky mutual aid type or not?

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/september-10-2025-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-valley-university-up-confirmed-dead-do-not-post-videos-of-incident.1294083/page-142#post-145019517

 User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

I get what you're saying, but I'll never show empathy for a Nazi. Not to take away from your message because I would agree with you except in an instance like this.

Thank you for being one of the few who had anywhere close to a reasonable, calm response to me simply advocating for humans to show kindness toward each other and doing their best to avoid circles of violence and hatred.

I was shocked I got this much vitriol thrown at me for what was a pacifist comment where I didn't show a single hint of hate toward anybody. Literally people assuming a variety of awful things about me simply because I chose to show empathy for another human being's death (not their rhetoric or political career).

not caring about someone's death is not morally equivalent to advocating for someone's death

Dropping to Charlie Kirk's level would be being a white Christian nationalist.

My message wasn't just about Kirk's death. It was about the argument used by the person I quoted. I've seen this type of mentality all across humanity and it never leads to anything good. It leads to more violence and violence doesn't end until one side chooses to take the high road despite having good reasons to want to keep the violence going. That or extreme casualties on one side forcing a surrender.

In all fairness, that's how most of the country has been acting over the past 10 years. Look where that got everyone.

What does this mean exactly? Your country has been divided for a while and this type of rhetoric (like Kirk's) was an on-going affair.

Karl Popper

You, along with a few others, seem to have completely missed my point. I never said to be tolerant of incredibly intolerant individuals. I said that as an individual you should not replicate what awful human beings do as this totally takes away from what are you supposed to represent. You can fight them without resorting to violence.

Charlie Kirk would have roasted you alive for such "weakness". He despised empathy and ridiculed the empathetic. If he was still alive you would disgust him. You don't need to shed a tear for someone who would have made Mr Rogers sick to his stomach.

Good thing I don't care about what Charlie Kirk would have thought of me. I don't "do" things based on what others think of me. I stay true to my humanity and to my own principles. It seems that you also misunderstood my message, as I pointed out that even if Kirk didn't believe in empathy... I do. That is the point.

The only way to be better than someone is to beat them.

We're where we're at right now because we turned the other cheek.

This type of victim mentality has invited a lot of our problems now, starting from Reconstruction. It's our fault too and we have to take accountability for that

Beat them, yes. Kill them, no.

No. These people demanding we just come to the
centre and maybe we can talk logically and they'll realise the error of their ways is historically abused to no end as a tool to beat down whomever it is they're targeting at the time.

It's the paradox of intolerance, unless and until these people are slapped down with what can only be considered an iron fist, they'll continue taking more and more, abusing more and more of the people they consider lesser than them, and they will never stop. It's as pointless as hoping Putin just goes "Oh shucks" and tells everyone to leave Ukraine and come back to Moscow for a nice tea. It's not going to happen, and every moment spent hoping it will is one they will capitalise on.

At several protests I attended in Germany, people made signs "Make Nazis afraid again", and until that happens, fascism, thanks to people like Kirk, will continue to grow unabated. It doesn't have to be, and yeah, probably shouldn't be murder, but these are the same people who have dreamed of this future for America, and it's about time it came knocking at one of their doors rather than an innocent school's.

I just want you to understand that this is the same type of rhetoric I hear all over social media from the other side. Are we just condemned to hatred and violence on both sides?

That high ground really doesn't mean shit if the other side is actively trying to kill you and advocates for your demise daily.

Like, I'm not advocating for anyone to kill anyone, but Kirk dealt in hatred and bigotry and calls for violence and he met a violent end. If there is anything after this life, I hope he has no rest, and no peace.

Principles, empathy, and humanity do mean something. When you abandon yours, there's not much left beside brute force.

Maybe Charlie should have tried this instead of spewing hate and violent rhetoric? Now, he's either been killed by another hateful member of his own hate group, or someone he instilled fear in. 🤷‍♂️

He should have. He'd probably be alive if he did. You understand this is my point, right? We should do better and be better.

Some can, many cannot. Kirk could not.

That's a sad statement. I will always choose to believe that most of humanity is capable of being kind. Divisions, tribalism, and echo chambers tend to lead to more and more hatred toward those who aren't "on one side". Talking to each other peacefully, with an open mind, is how humanity will always manage to be able to avoid wars and violence.

I love humans, but when events like these happen, some terrible things get said out of emotion. Even a pacifist message like I put above is responded to with anger.

In your sanctimonious attempt to try to feel better than others, you said not having empathy for a Nazi is stooping to Nazi levels.

For this statement, I greatly ask you to shut the fuck up about politics for the rest of your life. Clock In and Out your job and take care of your family. Do not ever talk about any political subject again in your life.

Shutting the fuck up is free.

I don't even know what to respond to this. I pointed out that you should never go eye for an eye, because that is what makes the whole world blind. If that's sanctimonious, I don't know what you'd have called people like Gandhi, MLK, and so on.
Just imagine with me for a minute. A bunch of neutral people read this thread, see a guy call for people to use their better nature and not devolve into doing exactly what they criticize the other side for doing. Said guy gets insulted and gets vitriol thrown at him by a bunch of other people. What conclusion do you think these neutral readers come to?

I mean…just no. We're better off living in a world where the figurehead of TPUSA (essentially MAGA 2.0) is fucking dead. He's done irreparable damage to youth politics and quite literally is a big reason why people are as divided as they are.

We probably are better overall without Kirk in the world, but that wasn't the point of my message.

I understand that you want empathy to win out the day, I too wish it could, but in reality I know that no amount of showing love or empathy to any Nazi on earth is going to change this shit. The only way these facist fucks learn is by being pushed back into the shadows by better people making choices they should never be forced to make and that's not going to happen when the facists have a monopoly on the use of force while even those not directly using force but just celebrating a Nazi getting his comeuppance get policed for not showing empathy.

That is not the world we live in, it isn't the world my grandad lived in and it isn't the world anyone who has faced facist rule has ever lived in. Empathy will not stop them, trying to take the high road won't stop them. There comes a time where those who wish to seek a higher road have to come to terms with the fact that those on the lower one do not care to hear our requests that things be better, that they don't want to see our empathy as a strength but as a weakness to exploit and the only way that changes is by forcing them to accept they are weaker, they aren't the only ones who can use force and that they are vastly outnumbered by those who want a better world if they force us to do so.

Do you realize that on the other side they have these same arguments? They think of you the same way and they justify themselves in the same way? How do we get out of this cycle where a bunch of people on both sides hate each other and constantly demonize each other?

Being "better" has done us no good and has eroded the progress millions fought for over the decades. Treat fascists like fascists and put them back in hiding like they were before Trump. The openness and publicity of MAGA is an afront to humanity, being "better" is to shut them out.

Being better is defeating their arguments with our arguments, and gaining the majority to be on our side so that people like Trump never get elected again. That's how we do it. Not by killing the people on the other side or by cheering or mocking them when they get killed.

I don't understand how so many people don't realize that they are doing exactly the same thing that they criticize the other side of doing. Take yourself out of the perspective that you are right about everything you believe in for a second, and think about the fact that there are humans on the other side too. Shouldn't your goal be to work them and convince them to agree with you? All of it without resorting to violence, as we know very well that violence only begets more violence, and nobody wins then because people on both sides suffer and die.

What leads to political violence is fundamentally the acceptance of the existence of oppressors, that certain people should have authority over the monopolization of violence while all others must submit to these arbitrary and dehumanizing conditions placed upon them. It's a lack of recognition that people will inevitably resist oppression in the ways that they see fit.

What you and others do by flattening the context of what has happened as just another incident in an amorphous "cycle of violence" with no beginning or end is that you completely strip away the agency of oppressors and those aligned with oppressors to have any sort of accountability to not engage in oppression. You see what is ostensibly self-defense as the exact same thing as assault. You have no meaningful interest in actually getting to the root of the issue, to determine fault much less recompense; your only interest is in that you are not made uncomfortable when power is finally dealt a blow similar but not at all comparable in scale to the violence it doles out daily to our homeless, our incarcerated, our poor, and our colonized. It is not only apoor, elementary level of analysis to complain about a "cycle of violence" when a Nazi dies; it is fundamentally unethical and un-human.

Every single one of you who comes in here to complain about "violence" are fundamentally enemies of the oppressed and frankly I'd wish you would go to Reddit and cry about this so-called tragedy instead along with the folks mourning him, folks who also agreed with Charlie that shooting deaths are "the price to pay" for "freedom."

Except the other side think that WE are oppressing them. How do you resolve a debate where both sides think they are correct? Certainly not with violence, right? Shouldn't one of the very first steps be for EVERYONE to be able to put themselves in the shoes of the people on the other side and try to come to some sort of understanding? Why is it that when I just mention that humans should be kind with each other and that we shouldn't cheer or be content with violent acts, I get vitriol thrown at me on a gaming forum?

I have debated the right wing for years now and have often been in situations where I was 1 against 20 or more disagreeing individuals. Why are you, and some others in this thread, automatically putting me in a box because of a single post I made that didn't perfectly align with your perspective on the approach to take toward people who disagree with us? This is incredibly disappointing.

And, by the way, I never said that we should just accept the presence of oppressors. Fighting them is important. With your words, with your arguments, with your actions every day. Not with violence.

no they cannot. my friend. just look around.

Most people I know in real life, on both sides of the asile, are capable of kindness. It's in these online spheres where the most vitriol is being thrown. Some people seem to have an easier time detaching from the fact that the individuals they are speaking to are also humans.

"Troll"

This dude has defended a very defensible viewpoint, with explicit clarifications against multiple aggressive rebuttals - some might even say bad faith attacks on his position - and took a perma for it.

Oh, right, they made a counter argument exposing Nepenthe as a fucking moron. GET FUCKED TROLL

[saltygeneraltso]

I know he's not a gamer because he has way better aim than any of my teammates on Valorant am I right fellas?

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[Boredfrom]

Real talk Uncle, you know better than post this stuff at face value, even if you say “just posting what some random dudes in certain forums think”.

I genuinely do not care, especially the context it was posted in, on a forum no one reads, while saying I don't necessarily think it's real, as a random point of interest

this isn't the same as signal boosting it as definitely true to a million people and telling them to hunt this fucker down

there is absolutely nothing wrong with posting it as I did and I'll do it again...in the context that no one will see it, and that I'm not posting it as truth

 

Like I said, I just genuinely think you know better.

[Snoopy]

So a ree prominent has finally snapped. Makes sense. Probably one of those Claire Obscure freaks.

[Eric Cartman]

Didn't the FBI investigation she demanded basically amount to her saying something retarded on twitter and a bunch of completely independent 15 year olds saying "OMG STFU you stupid bitch" in response, which she interpreted as an organised and targetted harrassment campaign?

[Eric Cartman]

Do you think she knows

no

Does she understand

no

it was a reticule question dummy

[Taco Bell Tower]

Can we stop with the "don't post this stuff on public social media accounts"? I respect the developer for actually having conviction in her beliefs and was willing to sacrifice her job to say them. We need more people like that. I'm not saying you have to sacrifice your job, that's your right but don't tell others what to do. We need less civility, less passivity in this world.

I’m going to guess this developer didn’t think they’d get fired over their post, they fucked around and found out.

The actual post they made isn’t all that bad tbh however the era types gotta understand that these companies will usually have employee guidelines about not bringing shit to the door of the company you work for, the best policy no matter how much you care about political things is simply not fucking post it on your timeline for people to grass you in to your employers and put yourself in the position of more than likely losing FB your job, like come on it’s 2025 that’s not a new thing, stop being so fucking idiotic.

Yeah, sacrificed herself for the lulz.  Ree are now saying fuck SP and not going to support the devs who had no saying by not buying GoY.

[Eric Cartman]

Why does Nepenthe hate Charlie Kirk? The guy went out there and organized

rest in power king

[Alpacx]

Why does Nepenthe hate Charlie Kirk? The guy went out there and organized

Forget "Who is the left's Joe Rogan?" Who is was the left's Charlie Kirk?

[D3RANG3D]

NepNep?

[Uncle]

Real talk Uncle, you know better than post this stuff at face value, even if you say “just posting what some random dudes in certain forums think”.

I genuinely do not care, especially the context it was posted in, on a forum no one reads, while saying I don't necessarily think it's real, as a random point of interest

this isn't the same as signal boosting it as definitely true to a million people and telling them to hunt this fucker down

there is absolutely nothing wrong with posting it as I did and I'll do it again...in the context that no one will see it, and that I'm not posting it as truth

 

Like I said, I just genuinely think you know better.

I know better than to transform myself into asmongold and say "skye valadez situation is crazy" to millions of people, yes, I solemnly swear never to do that

[Boredfrom]

I genuinely do not care, especially the context it was posted in, on a forum no one reads, while saying I don't necessarily think it's real, as a random point of interest

this isn't the same as signal boosting it as definitely true to a million people and telling them to hunt this fucker down

there is absolutely nothing wrong with posting it as I did and I'll do it again...in the context that no one will see it, and that I'm not posting it as truth

 

Like I said, I just genuinely think you know better.

I know better than to transform myself into asmongold and say "skye valadez situation is crazy" to millions of people, yes, I solemnly swear never to do that

Fair.

[Eric Cartman]

"catch this, facist!"

Era: another right-wing nut job, what can ya do?!

this is completely different to when they were cheering their vanguard hero of the proleteriat taking out capitalist CEOs execution style, who then turned out to be a trustfund bro

[Propagandhim]

What leads to political violence is fundamentally the acceptance of the existence of oppressors, that certain people should have authority over the monopolization of violence while all others must submit to these arbitrary and dehumanizing conditions placed upon them. It's a lack of recognition that people will inevitably resist oppression in the ways that they see fit.

What you and others do by flattening the context of what has happened as just another incident in an amorphous "cycle of violence" with no beginning or end is that you completely strip away the agency of oppressors and those aligned with oppressors to have any sort of accountability to not engage in oppression. You see what is ostensibly self-defense as the exact same thing as assault. You have no meaningful interest in actually getting to the root of the issue, to determine fault much less recompense; your only interest is in that you are not made uncomfortable when power is finally dealt a blow similar but not at all comparable in scale to the violence it doles out daily to our homeless, our incarcerated, our poor, and our colonized. It is not only apoor, elementary level of analysis to complain about a "cycle of violence" when a Nazi dies; it is fundamentally unethical and un-human.

Every single one of you who comes in here to complain about "violence" are fundamentally enemies of the oppressed and frankly I'd wish you would go to Reddit and cry about this so-called tragedy instead along with the folks mourning him, folks who also agreed with Charlie that shooting deaths are "the price to pay" for "freedom."

lol at her putting violence in quotes.   Nepenthe wants unending counter-violence that degrades every normal mode of living for normal people because she's created a life for herself so miserable, that she wants everyone else to sink down to that misery with her.  A destructive, nonproductive, parasitic retard is tortured everyday living in a productive, peaceful society that doesn't automatically license freelance violence on others for speaking.  She's already admitted her life is nonstop misery, so no reason to take her seriously for projecting her pain.  Yiff in hell, dipshit.  Fucking gaming forum.

[Besticus Maximus]

I suspect our dimwitted hero will keep her mouth shut now that she is coming round to the fact that actually she’s telling republicans to shoot people now.

[JoeBoy101]

I know he's not a gamer because he has way better aim than any of my teammates on Valorant am I right fellas?

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I was going to give you a Like, but then you said Valorant.

[Eric Cartman]

>party of "Family Values"
>turns-in your own son

Which one is it, conservatives, "Family Values", or Blood Treason?

Because my family - REAL family - Knows YOU DO NOT TURN-IN YOUR OWN KIN. Under any circumstances.

[Nintex]

Time to move on fellas.

[Eric Cartman]

It might be on a Playlist but its been a literal antifacist anthem for DECADES. If its on a groyper Playlist its ironic.

As I've said, its more likely this guy was in the 764 circles than anything.

(This shit is literally my day job, fyi, I have a fancy title of Subject Matter Expert and everything)

Basically, the only ideology I'm seeing currently that can fit is Terrorgram/764, and thats not right or left just...worshiping mass shooters and shit.

And thats THUS FAR. I wouldn't make a determination at all yet, not enough evidence for me to come to any conclusion. Just giving initial impressions.

Luckily though we can all sleep safely that you won't remove any of it if you agree or find it funny

[Boredfrom]

Like I said, he just doesn’t enjoy it anymore. The ball room is the only thing that is semi passionate about because reminds him of the life outside politics.

[nachobro]

"this is my day job" "i'm an sme" yet doesnt know groypers and pol took to bella ciao cause of hearts of iron lol

[Eric Cartman]

NeoGaf

NeoGAF, which is where the Resetera community migrated from.

THIS PLACE BIRTHED FROM NEOGAF!?!??!

I need to lie down