Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Besticus Maximus]

Most reasonable people start from giving it the benefit of the doubt. The more exposed to it you become the more you understand that none of it is actually about being gay or indeed a woman. Its a decentralised online church.

[Nintex]

*4 years ago*
Whatever floats their boat, we all live in a free society
 

*4 years later*
DAVE CHAPPELE IS A TRANSPHOBE
LET ME TEACH YOUR KID HOW TO POLE DANCE
HOW THE FUCK IS TERF J.K. ROWLING NOT IN JAIL
SPONGEBOB IS TRANS AND PREGNANT HERE'S THE EVIDENCE
EXCUSE ME THIS RAPIST IS A SHE/HER WHY IS SHE IN MAN JAIL?
LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE "REAL" HOLOCAUST

 

[HaughtyFrank]

From what I understand the transgender community is being turned into a boogeyman by republicans in order to unite their base, if that is the right word, so that they can get people to vote them into power in order to do something about it
Other countries saw what the Republicans were doing in the US and are now just doing the same thing.
Before I’d say like 2010 people were not talking about the transgender community from what I remember, but then it became this big deal because the Republicans made it a big deal, because they are monsters that are willing to do anything to get what they want. Apparently they tried this with the gay community in the 80s?
These people are not just hateful towards the trans community. They are also like really sexist and don’t respect woman. And unfortunately they are doing a great job spreading hate and misinformation.

You know, this is just stuff I have learned from watching YouTube videos and I could be wrong but it seems obvious the transgender community is being aggressively targeted and being put in the spotlight. Someone is making them the boogeyman for their own benefit. This is just another tool or a weapon for them, driven by greed and endless cravings for power. Those are the only 2 things they care about.
I suspect they don’t even care about their own party. They just use the Republican Party because people who often vote for them only have a high school education if even that, and work average jobs that are always under threat from being taken away. These people are very susceptible to hate and being fed misinformation that they’ll believe in. I feel like that is likely the case.

Idk. It just makes me sad the transgender community is being treated so horribly. They are human too you know.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/natcen-over-a-third-of-people-in-britain-now-consider-themselves-prejudiced-against-trans-people.766790/post-112434665

I find it interesting that there's now a believe that the trans community is being targeted because 10 years ago everything seemed fine.
To some degree it's true, like the drag queen story hour stuff had been going on for years until it suddenly caused outrage, but in other areas it's easy to explain that it's caused by new demands. 
10 years ago trans people in sports were incredibly rare and there wasn't any sort of belief that denying them to play in their preferred category is literally genocide. Same thing with puberty blockers and questioning and what age a child should be allowed to transition. I'm kind of surprised they can't see that a lot of the pushback comes from them pushing in the other direction. Hell, the only reason J.K. Rowling got into the trans debate is because some organization decided it's necessary to change the language from "Women" to "people who menstruate"

[Besticus Maximus]

I usually go to Scientology as my comparison for the transening but they're also pretty similar to the Mormons in how they're building the movement around a siege mentality and utilising adjacent established ethical positions to silence criticism while they evangelise.

If it doesn't die out or cool down (and I think it will soon, mainly on the basis of their policy goals being undeliverable) then we will have new model trans monasteries popping up. Mark my words brosefs.

Both Joseph Smith and L Ron followed a playbook on how you spin obvious bullshit into profound moral truth, and now the trans movement is doing the same, the difference is there is no organised body, it's developing it's own scripture through struggle session criticism in occluded spaces and then the political movement is dishonestly advocating for broad, caste based rights without specifying what it is that they want. For example, calling no questions asked HRT informed consent or pushing back against all research into the physical effects of the drugs and surgeries they pressure each other into getting and taking.

[Boredfrom]

They are also an easy target for republicans. They get mad about stuff like denying puberty blockers to children or not sending trans women rapists to female prisons. They act weird online but try to passing it out like quirky Queer stuff while still demanding people to accommodate them 100%.

Being Gay is accepted as “being born that way” while the Trans community online seems incapable of saying if one is born trans or can change in a whim because gender doesn’t exist. Hell, they cannot agree whatever cross dressing is just Queer or inherently trans.

[negativecrepe]

my trans opinion is its a mental illness and we are dealing with it the wrong way. all the effort on turning dicks into pussies should have been spent on finding therapy and drug solutions to get those people help instead of playing along with a delusion. look at the suicide rate of these people what we are doing doesnt work. but even then if they want to do it it doesnt effect me so i dont care just keep it away from the kids

and you cant tell me its not a social contagion with how much the rate of ppl saying they are trans is going up

[Uncle]

If it doesn't die out or cool down (and I think it will soon, mainly on the basis of their policy goals being undeliverable) then we will have new model trans monasteries popping up. Mark my words brosefs.

the tenacious unicorn ranch shut down though (not before overgrazing and starving/abusing a lot of innocent alpacas though  )

[Besticus Maximus]

my trans opinion is its a mental illness and we are dealing with it the wrong way. all the effort on turning dicks into pussies should have been spent on finding therapy and drug solutions to get those people help instead of playing along with a delusion. look at the suicide rate of these people what we are doing doesnt work. but even then if they want to do it it doesnt effect me so i dont care just keep it away from the kids

and you cant tell me its not a social contagion with how much the rate of ppl saying they are trans is going up

It's more like a bad idea than a mental illness. Many of these people are mentally ill but transing is prescribed as a cure to those issues, rather than there being a huge number of people who genuinely believe they're in the wrong body. This is why they're so desperate for third party validation at every juncture. They know they're suspending their own disbelief but they're doing it for the promised release of self actualisation and self esteem.

[Uncle]

my trans opinion is its a mental illness and we are dealing with it the wrong way. all the effort on turning dicks into pussies should have been spent on finding therapy and drug solutions to get those people help instead of playing along with a delusion. look at the suicide rate of these people what we are doing doesnt work. but even then if they want to do it it doesnt effect me so i dont care just keep it away from the kids

but if you give someone two options:

1. take this pill and your body will change the way you (think you) want it to
   
2. take this pill and your mind will change and you'll accept yourself as you are
   

no one ever will choose option 2

because they inhabit their current mind and want what they want, the idea that a better outcome would be to change your way of thinking to want different things feels like brainwashing/indoctrination

even though that's how all responsible people act...I can want an ATV and a pontoon boat all I like, but if I can't afford them then the better outcome is to change my own thinking to focus my desires on more attainable things...but remember, we're supposed to be in a gay space communist post-scarcity society, and you're supposed to reject personal responsibility and get angry that society told you "no, you can't afford this"

and you cant tell me its not a social contagion with how much the rate of ppl saying they are trans is going up

as always they will say the rate goes up just because more people know that it's a valid option and because you won't get killed for it like people were 50 years ago or whatever

of course the rate of anything goes up the more people know about it which includes all communities that form around weird shit like furries and other mild social contagions like memes (planking, cinnamon challenge etc.)

[kaleidoscopium]

There is definitely a social contagion aspect to it, look up what the trans community refers to as "eggs". People who are trans and don't realize it yet. And will then harass/pressure/imply they are trans to prove it right and break them out of an egg. Very strange

[HaughtyFrank]

They are also an easy target for republicans. They get mad about stuff like denying puberty blockers to children or sending trans women rapists to female prisons. They act weird online but try to passing it out like quirky Queer stuff while still demanding people to accommodate them 100%.

Being Gay is accepted as “being born that way” while the Trans community online seems incapable of saying if one is born trans or can change in a whim because gender doesn’t exist. Hell, they cannot agree whatever cross dressing is just Queer or inherently trans.

The whole thing started to become weird to me when some trans people, like Buck Angel, were getting called "Truscum" for the simple believe that being trans means that you have gender dysphoria. And it's not just a disagreement about definition, they treat Buck Angel like a bigot now, someone that other trans people, like Contrapoints, should be cancelled for if they even associate with him

[Besticus Maximus]

There is definitely a social contagion aspect to it, look up what the scientology community refers to as "thetans". People who are space gods and don't realize it yet. And will then harass/pressure/imply they are spiritual space aliens to prove it right and break them out of their physical bodies. Very strange

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/google-sued-over-fatal-google-maps-error-after-man-drove-off-broken-bridge.767171/#post-112420760

User Banned (2 Months): Inflammatory Joke; History of Posting Highly Inflammatory Drive-Bys

That's what you get for not using Waze.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gavin-newsom-2028-throws-the-california-trans-community-under-his-future-campaign-bus-by-vetoing-trans-child-protection-custody-bill.767459/page-2#post-112516187
loco

Living here in in California my entire life I’ve always been told that we are the bastion of liberalism and decades ahead of the rest of the country when it comes to civil rights, equality and democracy.

This is still taught in our schools and my kids have repeated the same things to us about being grateful for living here. Went on a field trip with my 5th grader last year to the capital buildings and verbatim that is repeated by the docents.

Gavin is pretty corrupt on other things but he’s been hailed as the ultimate ally for all marginalized people.

Extremely troubling and makes me think that someone high up in DC is hinting to him that he might need to take the reins soon on the election.

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gavin-newsom-2028-throws-the-california-trans-community-under-his-future-campaign-bus-by-vetoing-trans-child-protection-custody-bill.767459/page-2#post-112516187
loco

Living here in in California my entire life I’ve always been told that we are the bastion of liberalism and decades ahead of the rest of the country when it comes to civil rights, equality and democracy.

This is still taught in our schools and my kids have repeated the same things to us about being grateful for living here. Went on a field trip with my 5th grader last year to the capital buildings and verbatim that is repeated by the docents.

Gavin is pretty corrupt on other things but he’s been hailed as the ultimate ally for all marginalized people.

Extremely troubling and makes me think that someone high up in DC is hinting to him that he might need to take the reins soon on the election.

[Polident]

Somewhat related to the usual topics here. Somehow fell down a rabbit hole about body builders and lifters losing hair. In part due to all the drugs they pump themselves with, including I guess a synthetic testosterone. So to counter it, there’s a medication that’s, as I understand it, a type of estrogen? Side effects are man boobs and lower libido. They’re balancing a cocktail of testosterone and estrogen to make up for genetic weaknesses. Probably the number two group who wants those things readily available. Unfortunately, the top two groups rarely cross paths.

[Besticus Maximus]

Somewhat related to the usual topics here. Somehow fell down a rabbit hole about body builders and lifters losing hair. In part due to all the drugs they pump themselves with, including I guess a synthetic testosterone. So to counter it, there’s a medication that’s, as I understand it, a type of estrogen? Side effects are man boobs and lower libido. They’re balancing a cocktail of testosterone and estrogen to make up for genetic weaknesses. Probably the number two group who wants those things readily available. Unfortunately, the top two groups rarely cross paths.

You'd be surprised. The trans stuff is the precursor to a broader argument about progressively gnarlier human augmentation and the efficacy of body modifying drugs. You also definitely get crossover between taking cross sex hormones and sports. That buck angel fella we were talking about earlier is a good example. In real life I've seen more trans women in the gym than anywhere else. People transition then get hyper focused on athletic stuff because at the root of it they're battling body dysmorphia by proxy.

I reckon if there was an open poll on resetera an overwhelming majority would say that drug testing in sports is pointless and should be dropped and dozens of posts explaining why taking prescription drug hormones is not only safe but totally awesome.

[Averon]

This is sodding terrifying

What utter saddos. Really nothing better to do with their lives.

So literally the inverse of that shingami eyes twitter plugin you all use

I mean, didn't these people try to create a website tracking who streamed Hogwart's Legacy? It didn't launch because of the backlash and ridicule. This is just their opponents mirroring their own actions/tactics.

[kaleidoscopium]

They just don't like it when they are the ones on a list. You'd think they would like this because it would help them pick whom to vote for. Almost as if their views aren't acceptable and have to be obfuscated ..

[Boredfrom]

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Somewhat related to the usual topics here. Somehow fell down a rabbit hole about body builders and lifters losing hair. In part due to all the drugs they pump themselves with, including I guess a synthetic testosterone. So to counter it, there’s a medication that’s, as I understand it, a type of estrogen? Side effects are man boobs and lower libido. They’re balancing a cocktail of testosterone and estrogen to make up for genetic weaknesses. Probably the number two group who wants those things readily available. Unfortunately, the top two groups rarely cross paths.

You'd be surprised. The trans stuff is the precursor to a broader argument about progressively gnarlier human augmentation and the efficacy of body modifying drugs. You also definitely get crossover between taking cross sex hormones and sports. That buck angel fella we were talking about earlier is a good example. In real life I've seen more trans women in the gym than anywhere else. People transition then get hyper focused on athletic stuff because at the root of it they're battling body dysmorphia by proxy.

I reckon if there was an open poll on resetera an overwhelming majority would say that drug testing in sports is pointless and should be dropped and dozens of posts explaining why taking prescription drug hormones is not only safe but totally awesome.

That is funny itself because they also want to deny the fact that people go to insane lengths to gain competitive advantage in sports with the hormone stuff, just to be able to excuse trans athletes by saying “why would someone would go trans just to cheat in sports?”.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-90#post-112522136

This might be bad to say but I will not be mourning on the day print news media dies in the UK, every single one is rotten to the core and spewing hate on a daily basis; their a waste of paper and serve no value when more accurate information can be found online.

I really fear their transphobic hate is going to escalate further and further the closer we get to the general election, it feels like the thing they've latched on to an are just going to push and push as hard as they can and I hope somehow it backfires badly on the press and politicians (even if I'm not sure how).

[Besticus Maximus]

That is funny itself because they also want to deny the fact that people go to insane lengths to gain competitive advantage in sports with the hormone stuff, just to be able to excuse trans athletes by saying “why would someone would go trans just to cheat in sports?”.

A lot of their stated positions are dishonest and the true goals are always obfuscated. That's not to say that their goals are evil or whatever, they're just impossible, and the acting out on the internet when the contradictions are pointed out comes from the same psychological place as retaliation against blasphemers.

Where it actually becomes a problem is where it gets in the way of science and understanding. So much time and energy is spent on semantic arguments about the meaning of social constructs because the science is fairly clear. The drugs don't work the way they say they do and neither do the surgeries, and more broadly the human body definitely doesn't. 

They can't measure how much of a woman a trans woman is through blood tests because they can't test for something that doesn't exist. Another bad faith argument they use all the time is the low rate of trans world record holders or the non-dominance in certain sports, when the only reason that is true is because controls already exist to filter out this stuff and they are the ones who want to change it.

This is hard stuff for the lay person to understand and most people want to be fair, so they do accommodate things like levels of testosterone in the blood as a measure, but the reality is there is no sliding scale between man and woman that is governed by how much oestrogen or testosterone you take. Testosterone encourages lean muscle growth, men are doused in it basically from conception, it's the difference in your bones that you grow over the course of a lifetime as much as your blood at the point of taking a test. With regards to what these drugs actually do for making you a woman, you're just developing tissues that superficially resemble secondary sexual characteristics. There is no magic wand involved that changes everything, you're the same person under the skin.

And for women, competing against someone who has had a lifetime of testosterone is a million times more unfair than competing against a 70s style russian frankenstein who was actually born as a woman.

Probably worth pondering on how the trans rise has coincided to some degree with the marketing of testosterone based therapies for middle aged men.

[kaleidoscopium]

And my Three Doors Down CDs got destroyed and went in the trash after they performed at Trump's inauguration

https://www.resetera.com/threads/has-there-been-a-more-painful-fall-from-grace-than-that-of-kanye-west-a-thread-about-reconciling-your-idolization-nostalgia-with-your-values.767813/#post-112523117

Reminds me of the cons buying bud light just to shoot it. Very weird destructive behaviors

[Uncle]

And my Three Doors Down CDs got destroyed and went in the trash after they performed at Trump's inauguration

https://www.resetera.com/threads/has-there-been-a-more-painful-fall-from-grace-than-that-of-kanye-west-a-thread-about-reconciling-your-idolization-nostalgia-with-your-values.767813/#post-112523117

Reminds me of the cons buying bud light just to shoot it. Very weird destructive behaviors

remember, doing this makes you a crybaby snowflake or something

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Destroying your own property to own someone else.

[books]

I really fear their transphobic hate is going to escalate further and further

Is there really anything after genocide though?

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-why-starfield-is-an-accessibility-embarrassment-rebooted-read-op.767708/#post-112504229

User Banned (5 Days): Ignoring staff post, Platform wars

Microsoft have great idea from Hardware Accessibility...
But for games... compared to Sony.... outch...

Ree Sony Ponies just couldn't help themselves lol

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/has-there-been-a-more-painful-fall-from-grace-than-that-of-kanye-west-a-thread-about-reconciling-your-idolization-nostalgia-with-your-values.767813/#post-112524248

Yeah, with mine I was speaking personal upset with people I was engaged with, but while I was never into her work, Rowling has to be the worst, right?

She's literally caused people to die, caused pain and misery in countless lives; set back society decades by creating enormous hate and stripping both existing and potential rights and protections in legislation. She's really become such a vile, destructive person, perched atop both obscene wealth and influence, and using that power for straight up evil. All while abusing an insane legal system to punish critics and force them to give her more money (I still can't believe that Mermaids decision).

[Venice]

Thread title: "Has there been a more painful fall from grace than that of Kanye West?"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/has-there-been-a-more-painful-fall-from-grace-than-that-of-kanye-west-a-thread-about-reconciling-your-idolization-nostalgia-with-your-values.767813/

Yet more evidence ResetEra lives in their own deluded world:












(And of course Kuntuji had to get his 2 cents in)









All I can say is... lol wut?

JK Rowling hasn't had any fall from grace. 

She's still one of the most respected women in the world, the Harry Potter franchise still brings in hundreds of millions of dollars a year and the overwhelming sales and success of Hogwarts Legacy should have made it clear to these nutcases and their ridiculous, hateful, orchestrated boycott campaign that they have about as much power in the real world as an ant trying to push a mountain.

If anything, it's the entire trans community that has had the post painful fall from grace with their nastiness and insanity. How much support have they lost even among moderates?

Almost all of it, because at best, the vast majority of us are completely indifferent to trans-causes and don't give a shit anymore.

It never ceases to amaze me how much they fucked up with JK Rowling. They could have had a true powerful 'ally' if they engaged her properly, instead of constantly screaming abuse like a pack of screeching retards

All she ever basically said in that big-assed essay that the transmafia lost their mind over was 'Hey, young kids are stupid, going through natural hormonal changes, so they are too young to be getting permanently life changing puberty blockers because they'll fuck their body, brains and lives up forever.'

In other words... JK Rowling was stating common fucking sense.

Madness.

[Besticus Maximus]

In reality, JK Rowling has been funding left wing causes for decades and is a fucking awesome bro in all regards and just had the biggest selling videogame of the generation or something

Kyuuji is just such a cunt. It's extraordinary really. Imagine being such a colossal bellend that you just assume normal people are going to join your misogynistic hate campaign because you'd like them to. It really is no surprise they banned the word cunt, because so many of them are textbook, genre defining cunts.