Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[HaughtyFrank]

There was that one poor trans girl who got killed at the beginning of the year and they instantly jumped on it directly blaming J.K. it felt downright ghoulish. As if they were happy they finally had a victim

[benji]

JK Rowling really had her fall from grace, since coming out as an EVIL TERF the amount of trans deaths has FALLEN from 6 Pre-Terfening to 1 Post-Terfening. Shameful

I'd run a regression on Joanne's tweets and these murders so you could know just how many Joanne tweets it takes to kill a trans person but like that sounds like work.

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[Venice]

Some Messe lore:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/datingera-this-isnt-like-one-of-your-animes.666/page-572#post-112399772

The absolute cheek! Back when I was dating, I would often wait for the other to initiate and that was often an indicator about the level of effort on both sides. And if they didn't message after a week, I just unmatched or said bye. Made my dating life so much easier weeding out people like that.

Yes. It made your 'dating life so much easier', you needed your parents to buy you a wife.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/has-there-been-a-more-painful-fall-from-grace-than-that-of-kanye-west-a-thread-about-reconciling-your-idolization-nostalgia-with-your-values.767813/page-3#post-112532645

Chappelle stings most for me right now because since it's just transphobia a ton of people don't think it's actually that big of a deal. (Hell, look at the moderation here). He's the only one I've had to outright cut people out of my life for because they wouldn't stop defending him. Even the Potterheads I know won't defend JKR herself anymore regardless of how ineffective their whole "separating the art from the artist" shit is when the artist is still alive and happily putting every cent she earns toward stripping people's rights.

                    Misrepresenting moderation

[kaleidoscopium]

What are they mad about this time, only moderation anti trans moment was banning Clicky Cal for an ableist slur banning Clicky Cal for being a proud authentic strong trans woman.

[books]

Same folks who sounded almost disappointed nobody was shooting up theaters showing the Joker because they whipped themselves into a frenzy over the most extreme of hypotheticals

[Snoopy]

The absolute cheek! Back when I was dating, I would often wait for the other to initiate and that was often an indicator about the level of effort on both sides. And if they didn't message after a week, I just unmatched or said bye. Made my dating life so much easier weeding out people like that.

Visawife appears to be under the illusion that nobody has seen his YT videos.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-is-the-most-significant-and-or-recognizable-hat-in-fiction.767870/

The Sorting Hat

This will surely be a two month ban for mentioning a banned franchise.

Some Messe lore:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/datingera-this-isnt-like-one-of-your-animes.666/page-572#post-112399772

And if they didn't message after a week, I just unmatched or said bye.

I can see him meaning this literally as in he sent a passive-aggressive "bye" after a week.

[Uncle]

Same folks who sounded almost disappointed nobody was shooting up theaters showing the Joker because they whipped themselves into a frenzy over the most extreme of hypotheticals

speaking of this, not entirely related but I was thinking the other day about the flash and ezra miller (THEY/THEM: READ THREADMARKS)

felt like era was anti-hyping this movie and ezra for...was it years? tons of threads on the guy and omg I can't believe DC is still moving forward with this movie, just horrific, capitalism in action boys

then the flash came out and it was as shitty as every other DC film and is now already forgotten only a few months later

how many words were spent on this? how much personal angst and strife did they spend arguing and pulling faces over this, for it to just soil itself and disappear?

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/has-there-been-a-more-painful-fall-from-grace-than-that-of-kanye-west-a-thread-about-reconciling-your-idolization-nostalgia-with-your-values.767813/page-3#post-112532645

He's the only one I've had to outright cut people out of my life for because they wouldn't stop defending him.

Would they have had to keep defending Dave Chappelle if someone in their life hadn't kept bringing him up?

Even the Potterheads I know won't defend JKR herself anymore regardless of how ineffective their whole "separating the art from the artist" shit is when the artist is still alive and happily putting every cent she earns toward stripping people's rights.

When you take your rhetoric to the maximum every single time people will become increasingly immune to it, especially when it doesn't match reality

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[kaleidoscopium]

I love how they pull the "she sees every sale as a win!!!! for evil!!!!!!" card, and when you look into it, they are referencing this little joke she put out on twitter lol

[benji]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/starfield-is-one-of-the-worst-written-rpgs-of-all-time.1661499/

Good writing in an RPG means different things to different people. You might appreciate meaningful choices. You might appreciate deep conversations with realistic characters. You might appreciate an epic adventure full of memorable twists and turns. You might appreciate years spent on developing the worldbuilding for an interesting universe full of diverse characters, races, species, backgrounds, and ideas.

Well, Starfield fails at RPG writing on every level. This doesn’t mean it’s a worthless failure of a game overall. The core mechanics of exploring, shooting, and looting can hold your attention, just as they may have in Bethesda’s previous open world RPGs. But at every turn the writing slaps you in the face.

Let’s start with the companions. Dear god. All of them are Lawful Good wet blankets who criticize you every roughly 15 seconds. Inventory over the minuscule weight limit? “Have you considered NOT picking up everything you can find?” every time you pick up an item. Stealing something, including from villains? “Wow, I didn’t realize I was hanging out with a CRIMINAL” every time you pick up an item. Get into a fight that you could have conceivably avoided via dialogue options? They will sometimes leave your party and brand you irredeemable, even if the only way to avoid the enemies attacking you was through a persuasion check that you failed, leaving you with no choice but to defend yourself. You’ll still be met with the companion leaving your party and refusing to talk to you. Unless every step you take is within their exacting moral expectations you will be reprimanded or dumped.

There are also story beats with bizarre turns. During one of the main faction quests, you are given one of your few pseudo-consequential player choices. Basically, you can choose a risky scientific option that unleashes genetically engineered microbes onto humanity to solve the problem, or a less risky naturalistic option where you breed an animal that will take care of the problem. If you choose the sensible naturalistic option with what is essentially a guaranteed good outcome based on the evidence presented to you, your companions will condemn you as a mouth-breathing moron. If you choose the risky scientific option that explicitly has a chance of wiping out humanity by mutating in unknown ways, your companions will laud you for “Trusting the Science" (actual quote), in what is a bizarre, warped take on recent events political messaging, considering how risky the in-game choice is.

Not only that, but if you have a companion in your party, good luck picking any of the rare Han Solo style dialogue options. In a mission where Andreja is your forced companion, you dock with a ship with the intention of stealing an item from the owner. This a morally gray mission where you’re expected to con the owner, burglarize him, or kill him in order to retrieve the item. When you enter the ship, you’re met with one of the owner’s employees, and he asks you why you’re there. You only have two dialogue options: one, be an imbecile and tell him exactly why you’re there, or two, you can reply facetiously that you heard there was a big party on the ship and you’re here to party. If you say the latter, Andreja, who is literally there to help you steal the item by any means necessary, will respond by Disliking your comment and interjecting flatly that she “has no interest in partying.”

It's a problem endemic to all the characters in Starfield. It was marketed as a Han Solo simulator, but you are constantly badgered and browbeaten by catty, humorless women for anything you do. I won’t dwell too much on the ideological choices made to satisfy the current year climate but suffice to say that roughly 90% of the leaders in Starfield are women. And they are one-dimensional, deeply unlikeable charisma black holes who will talk to you with utter contempt most of the time. Of the remaining 10%, most of the men are presented as incompetent or evil. It’s a galaxy ruled by Karens. And the Karens are also your party members and love interests. I have never experienced a more unlikeable cast of characters in an RPG.

Let’s also consider the dreaded romance options. The first romanceable companion you encounter is Sarah. Sarah is a middle-aged ex-military leader who runs the organization you join. She’s quick to criticize you and expects you to do the conventional and lawful thing at all times. If you romance her, by choosing options like Trusting the Science and by praising her awkwardly at every opportunity in a way that would be creepy and weird to any actual human being, she will eventually begin to trust you and open up. Now, by opening up I mean she will reveal herself to be a giant ball of insecure, wallowing baggage that you are expected to comfort with dialogue options that reduce her to the emotional maturity of a small child. “Wow, you’re so strong, Sarah! Good job staving off that nervous breakdown over nothing, Sarah!” Then, inexplicably, you will end these conversations about her baggage with a “Flirt” option if you want to pursue her romantically. She will rebuff your advances awkwardly and end the conversation every time. Do this on around a dozen separate occasions, with no actual romance or flirtation between you two, only rejections at the end of your impromptu therapy sessions, and she will trust you enough to take you on her loyalty mission, which is literally to confront her emotional baggage. Complete that and she will decide that she can get involved with you romantically. Without any intimate moments, explicitly or implicitly, she will then decide that she has fallen in love with you and want to get married. Handle her baggage for her --> let’s get married. That’s how it works for humans, right? Right?

I’m genuinely horrified by the writing in this game, and I pity the people who conjured up these character interactions. They must live some of the dullest and most dysfunctional lives imaginable.

Starfield displays time and time again, without fail, that it fundamentally lacks understanding of the human condition. You land on worlds with the premise of a dystopian cyberpunk society where hard drugs are legal and everything is available for a price. When you arrive, though, all you’ll find is some tepid fully clothed dancing at a bland nightclub and a few people talking about how cu-raaazy everything is. It’s a game unwilling to explore humanity’s faults and genuine human drama on any level. At the futuristic fashionista clothing stores your only options are literally unisex tarps. Everyone is of varied ethnicity but there is no ethnic culture whatsoever. Women are purely masculine, leaving no one left to be feminine. This is not a demand for T&A by any means. In the real world, men and women don’t wear tarps and talk in monotone at a safe distance, defined purely by their profession. Life is messy and dramatic, desires and egos clash, stars rise and fall, people love and lust and hate and trust and betray. But not in Starfield, a corporate-sanitized ideological bog too afraid to include one iota of humanity in its storytelling.

RPGs are doing so much more elsewhere, from Baldur's Gate 3 to Cyberpunk 2077, but even looking back at Bethesda's own games, this one is a step backwards. The Elder Scrolls games incorporate different ethnic backgrounds and intense religious beliefs, ugly racial prejudice and morally gray deities. Starfield reeks of design by committee resulting in a product too afraid to take any storytelling risks. Nothing can ever be well-written when it is this extraordinarily conformist and risk-averse, particularly when the expectations for political correctness are so narrow in 2023.

You can do better.

Seems very at odds with what some others have said in the starfeild thread......where this post belongs.

Reconsider your life choices.

[Greatness Gone]

Evilore being VERY based for once. Bethesda games are the definition of soulless and BG3/Cyberpunk/Disco Elysium wipe the floor with their entire catalogue (maybe Morrowind aside), writing wise. Even low tier BioWare junk like Dragon Age has a more compelling narrative than Starfield.

[Venice]

Seems very at odds with what some others have said in the starfeild thread......where this post belongs.

Reconsider your life choices.

Dude is as arrogant as ever.

I bet Tyler 'reconsiders his life choices' everyday. He's a living example of the Butterfly Effect.

If he hadn't stepped into the shower that day, ResetEra wouldn't exist 

[Boredfrom]

1695602836[/url]']

That's a nice sentiment though it does strike me how far we have to go because it seems like so few people even know what transgender even means (or refuse to believe it exists). You're born trans, and that's an important distinction because it gets to the heart of the injustice of anti-trans bigotry.

If I had a vagina that would not make me a woman, that'd make me a man with a vagina. And anybody who'd try telling me I have to put on a dress and go to the ladies room and start dating men on that basis can get fucked.

I’m trans. I don’t know that everyone trans is born trans. I’m sure some of gender works that way for some people. But I don’t think anyone should have to be born trans or meet criterion other than “wants to be a different gender now” to transition or be considered valid as trans or in their gender. I don’t like that “being born that way” was needed as a precondition for why society started to accept gay people, and in some ways it’s messier with gender.

how about it’s okay if you want to be another gender, without making it into gatekeeping and biotruths

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-lashes-out-at-disloyal-howard-stern-after-radio-hosts-criticisms.767669/page-2#post-112527551

No gatekeeping intended here, "Let people be the gender they want" is an ideal I support. I don't think it's mutually exclusive from "Let people be the gender they are" which I think goes beyond even ideals, it's a moral imperative. There's an entire population of people that have always been there throughout history who've been forced both by circumstance and societal pressure to live as a gender that they're not and I don't think most people understand how profound an injustice that is.

No need to use big words you don’t understand, twat. 

“Is a moral imperative to let any one claim to be attack helicopter.” While your original premise was the contrary and that was the crux of how immoral was the trans bigotry.

IT IS MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE GIVEN THAT ONE DENIES BIOLOGICAL TRUTH BEYOND IDEALS.

YOU DUMB FUCK.

Also don’t use words as gatekeep like this applies to biology, specially since the Bionic asshole is pretty happy denying biotruth ( another wtf word ). It is sad how convinced you sounded initially until a random asshole with a Adult Swim avatar bitched about it.

[benji]

"Let people be the gender they want" is an ideal I support. I don't think it's mutually exclusive from "Let people be the gender they are" which I think goes beyond even ideals, it's a moral imperative. There's an entire population of people that have always been there throughout history who've been forced both by circumstance and societal pressure to live as a gender that they're not and I don't think most people understand how profound an injustice that is.

Your morals are fucked up, dude.

[Boredfrom]

His morals are:

“Let my Twitter friends decide what morals I have even if they contradict my previous views. Because I don’t mean any opinion I have . My moral imperative is making shit up”.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/🧄-vampire-survivors-vittorias-secret-🧛%E2%80%8D♀%EF%B8%8F.767891/

Pls, dude, make a blog and spare everyone and yourself the pain.

[Sman]

Reconsider your life choices.

Dude is as arrogant as ever.

I bet Tyler 'reconsiders his life choices' everyday. He's a living example of the Butterfly Effect.

If he hadn't stepped into the shower that day, ResetEra wouldn't exist 

True, but taking that shower girl on a road trip or even just associating with her at all was probably the real mistake. If not the shower then some other awkward action from him would be later come out. It wouldn't necessarily lead to the creation of Resetera but it would still embarrass him in the end. Spergy dude + unstable girl = trouble

[benji]

True, but taking that shower girl on a road trip or even just associating with her at all was probably the real mistake.

The real mistake was not using his calm from 10,000 fights to handle the Scientologist kidnappers.

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(she's bi)

[Potato]

Reconsider your life choices.

Dude is as arrogant as ever.

I bet Tyler 'reconsiders his life choices' everyday. He's a living example of the Butterfly Effect.

If he hadn't stepped into the shower that day, ResetEra wouldn't exist 

I just want to know is he still a Nazi sympathiser or has he gone back to being a lefty fuck head

[benji]

He wasn't really that, he was just trying to get as many members as he could. He cleaned them out and banned politics completely after the 2020 election whining. Just in general after he got enough members back he started doing all those "tough" bans again to cheers. Surprising they haven't made a new bish-less gif.

[Besticus Maximus]

Moral imperatives, the hobby horse of cunts forevermore

[Besticus Maximus]

1695616434[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/🧄-vampire-survivors-vittorias-secret-🧛%E2%80%8D♀%EF%B8%8F.767891/

Pls, dude, make a blog and spare everyone and yourself the pain.

I was wondering when this tool was going to get his own highlights show. The prose equivalent of a pokey bum wank.

[benji]

The OP's lack of stream of consciousness in his stream of consciousness writing aside, there was this reply:

the most popular game with stolen graphics that no one will care enough to do anything about

Meanwhile, clicking the first two results on Google:

PC Gamer recently spoke to Luca Galante, the sole developer behind indie hit Vampire Survivors. During the conversation I asked about a brief early controversy, which flared-up and then died-down almost as quickly: some people accused the game of going too far in its homage to Castlevania, and even that certain sprites were a straight rip-off.

"I had done my homework," says Galante. "So even before publishing I did check all the sprites, specifically to make sure there weren't you know, ripped out from Castlevania, because they came from an asset pack. And it was fine. Honestly, there was nothing like a copy-paste."

The problem was that, while Galante was focused on the sprites not being rip-offs, some of them were clearly heavily 'inspired' by Konami's series: and, as he came to realise, probably went too far.

"The thing is, that of course some things recalled Castlevania way too much, so some people became really upset at the fact and they were 100% sure the sprites were ripped off, or somehow they were taken out and readapted, like resized or something like that. I wish it was that easy to make and sell art!"

Galante decided that, before things got out of hand, he'd simply change the sprites people were getting angry about. "I had a lot of trouble actually finding artists that could emulate the style of that asset pack [used originally], not emulating Castlevania, because even if you put the art styles next to one another, you will notice that there are a lot of differences: like Castlevania doesn't use so many colours and have that thick outline for example.

"Anyway: I found some artists that are helping replace even stuff that is a little too close to the reference. I also left in some stuff that, you know, there are some that's going to complain about the water icon. Sorry, but the little blue bottle is gonna stay there."

A developer of this app has marked a post as the answer to the topic above.

No assets have been ripped or stolen from other titles. The asset pack in question had been commissioned non exclusively for a different game, Serenade of Chaos, in 2006, then removed from sale from Oryx Design Lab's site a few years ago and finally made available on Oryx's Patreon under the name "Hi-Fi Gothic".
Designs from the pack that are too unique and that aren't just the yet another interpretation of something from the Ars Goetia are not in use.

For every other asset please check the credits in game.

[Daffy Duck]

1695616434[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/🧄-vampire-survivors-vittorias-secret-🧛%E2%80%8D♀%EF%B8%8F.767891/

Pls, dude, make a blog and spare everyone and yourself the pain.

What in the ever living fuck is that…I’ve tried reading it three times and each time I get even more confused

[Besticus Maximus]

1695616434[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/🧄-vampire-survivors-vittorias-secret-🧛%E2%80%8D♀%EF%B8%8F.767891/

Pls, dude, make a blog and spare everyone and yourself the pain.

What in the ever living fuck is that…I’ve tried reading it three times and each time I get even more confused

He does these try-hard avante garde rambles semi regularly. Obviously thinks he's some kind of post-ironic genius, in actuality a complete whopper

[Boredfrom]

Its really insane the weird concept people have of him just because of his twitter presence.

And the stupid thing is his twitter presence is due to him being harassed constantly and is just a set of clear cut very visible rules. It's very off-putting when people complain about his rules (esp. due to why he has them), like it makes me think of capital G gamers who feel like they're owed developer interaction or something. Man is allowed to have his own rules and protect himself from communities that have repeatedly shown they don't respect his rules and just like to trash on him.

Even on ERA you get people like that, and it's very weird. People here simultaneously know Gamergaters exist but are flabbergasted that a minority developer may want to protect himself on Twitter, notable shitty gamer platform??

I don't even run my Twitter that dissimilar, block anyone the instant I vaguely don't like anything they say or speak to me in languages I do not understand - and if I was someone of note i'd probably also have tens of thousands of blocks due to that too. The platform is gigbad and filled to the brim with gigabad people and life is too short to not just be cut and dry on there. Kamiya just keeps it real and keeps himself sane and he's smart for that.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hideki-kamiya-leaving-platinum-games.767906/page-4

Lol minority developer. He is a Japanese developer that lives in Japan, he is part of the majority in that context, that’s why he got surprised that people are not thrilled by being called foreigners (not saying what he said es racist, obviously, just that is laughable te notion that he has experienced the racial discrimination typically associated in the US when Japan has its own racial problems given their homogeneity).

Look, Kamiya was harassed because he was a easy target for trolls: bad temper, English not being his mother language, having fans more insane than Kojima, being blunt as hell, flame wars between Capcom and Platinum Game fans. The fact that his answer to all that was blocking anyone that asked him anything in English didn’t improve his reputation (Japanese trolls can be way worse) even if the trolling came from the English speaking side.

He is a good game designer, he made one of my favorite games (Ookami) but for a forum obsessed with social media, is laughable to think that is all fault of capital G gamers that he got bad online reputation, even if is underserved stuff like the idiot asking if he was a “Japanese Nationalist”.

[Boredfrom]

This thread reads like a fellatory fever-dream, but I just wanted to say that your prose is gorgeous OP.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/vampire-survivors-vittorias-secret.767891/

I see what you did there, but in case that you really meant the last part:

FUCK OFF DONT LIE TO THE ASSHOLE 

Writers get better by honest criticism, not with condescending statements. 

(The nicest thing I can say about that is that the dude is sincerely trying, but this his writing is worse than any first year in Creative Writing, and that is saying something).

[Eric Cartman]

I love how they pull the "she sees every sale as a win!!!! for evil!!!!!!" card, and when you look into it, they are referencing this little joke she put out on twitter lol

yeah, even if she'd just used the zombieland gif the people who think shes a cracker eating bitch would still have actively chosen not to get it