The #MutualAid Housewives of Bluesky County

[benji]

Shame that being trans, fat, and in debt doesn't count as a disability.
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I love that he frames it as some kind of strange unexplainable contradiction rather than that they don't believe his self-diagnosis.

[DavidCroquet]

#mutualaid

[DavidCroquet]

sorry am i doing this right

[nachobro]

once again with these dorks its "i've done no actual work to progress towards my goal, somehow i am not automatically at said goal. therefore it is hopeless"

[benji]

once again with these dorks its "i've done no actual work to progress towards my goal, somehow i am not automatically at said goal. therefore it is hopeless"

It's not my job to emotionally labor for what I want.

[benji]

[simiansmarts]

Shame that being trans, fat, and in debt doesn't count as a disability.
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Too disabled to work, able bodied enough to build complicated gundam figurines, buy a guitar to that collects dust and attempt to start a CompTia A+ certification course (the book is also collecting dust).  
 
Many such cases.

[simiansmarts]

very womanly behavior, i dont know why anyone would see trans women as different from cis women

[DavidCroquet]

I just want to let everyone know that for the past 3 days I have been trying to coax ChatGPT into generating an image of Britt being kicked out of a hotel, while Coffinfairy is being cheerfully checked in with full VIP treatment.

But I think I broke it? I gave ChatGPT images of coffinfairy to guide the image generation, but every image it generated it also immediately self-censored due to “violating content guidelines”. So I gave up. But I still want credit for the effort!

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

*pats DavidCroquet on the head*

[Propagandhim]

I just want to let everyone know that for the past 3 days I have been trying to coax ChatGPT into generating an image of Britt being kicked out of a hotel, while Coffinfairy is being cheerfully checked in with full VIP treatment.

But I think I broke it? I gave ChatGPT images of coffinfairy to guide the image generation, but every image it generated it also immediately self-censored due to “violating content guidelines”. So I gave up. But I still want credit for the effort!

I can't figure out how to edit in multiple characters either.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Melody please! You do not have enough work history for disability! Apply for Supplemental Security Income (SSI). Dear god please one of you losers lurking this thread tell them to stop wasting a representatives time with the wrong application. They're already overworked as it is due to cutbacks. 

[Propagandhim]

Shame that being trans, fat, and in debt doesn't count as a disability.
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Leave it to Melody to consistently choose the worst possible path - this time finding the one thing that could make an already unbearable life even worse: faking a disability to get a pittance handout, guaranteeing she'll remain trapped in this situation forever and removing the one possible motive toward any real change.  You truly can make hell on earth real if you're determined to do so.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

to be fair being trans is a neurological disability linked with autism.

[Propagandhim]

Melody please! You do not have enough work history for disability! Apply for Supplemental Security Income (SSI). Dear god please one of you losers lurking this thread tell them to stop wasting a representatives time with the wrong application. They're already overworked as it is due to cutbacks. 

How do you live this nightmare day in and day out and not want to get out of the house simply to keep your mind busy?  I'd be offering to work for free to not sit in my elderly parents house thinking about how bad everything has gotten.   Instead this retard is buying digimon and action figures.  What is this creature

[Propagandhim]

to be fair being trans is a neurological disability linked with autism.

A guy with downs syndrome works at my supermarket.  Melody doesn't have the kind of autism where your mind is completely disrupted.  He can help himself and do things.  Anyway, i'll stfu now, this thread is for lol'ing not explaining the obvious to people that already know.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

It's a fun thought experiment. Would online trans folx rather it being a mental disorder once more and useable to gain government disability bene's, or would they rather it be considered normal?

 One gives you close to a little over/under 1k a month, the other leaves you penniless asking for mutual aid.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

to be fair being trans is a neurological disability linked with autism.

A guy with down syndrome works at my supermarket.  Melody doesn't have the kind of autism where your mind is completely disrupted.  He can help himself and do things.  Anyway, i'll stfu now, this thread is for lol'ing not explaining the obvious to people that already know.

Sounds like a go-getter who wasn't coddled by online life.  But I think that's the beauty of it. Someone with down syndrome aren't as high functioning as someone like Melody, they actually want to see the world and be friends with their fellow man. Melody is high functioning enough, or just downright lazy, and wants to goon and be drip fed dopamine from anime, video games, and their discord kittens.

Their whole life revolves around being online, so it's not surprising that being stuck in their room in front of a computer screen doesn't seem like a death sentence.

[Propagandhim]

It's a fun thought experiment. Would online trans folx rather it being a mental disorder once more and useable to gain government disability bene's, or would they rather it be considered normal?

 One gives you close to a little over/under 1k a month, the other leaves you penniless asking for mutual aid.

Don't they always choose both.  They say they are invariably trans and can't do anything about that, yet the world treats them poorly so their depression can't be nailed down to anything in their control, and should get treated for it.  The common denominator with all of these people is they make terrible decisions, their life gets worse because of it, and don't want to admit what they chose created the mess. 

case in point:





So apparently this hotel brand that she issued chargebacks against for fraud is treating her well now, doesn't have her blacklisted, and hey, whattya know - the deadline she needed to meet magically went away and they let her stay.  She always seems to make it at the last moment.  $1000 over 3 days at another hotel - Brit truly knows how to spread the money she receives out.   



This person makes the worst decisions in the world.  She could've just stayed where she was and collected a bunch of money and saved it to for a less volatile living situation that isn't spending thousands at hotels for a few weeks and then spending 14 hours of a few days of the month panicking and spamming begsky for more money.  But instead they are told they're so amazing and hard working by their horrible, enabling retard online "friends". 

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Of course none of this is real to begin with

[Propagandhim]

to be fair being trans is a neurological disability linked with autism.

A guy with down syndrome works at my supermarket.  Melody doesn't have the kind of autism where your mind is completely disrupted.  He can help himself and do things.  Anyway, i'll stfu now, this thread is for lol'ing not explaining the obvious to people that already know.

Sounds like a go-getter who wasn't coddled by online life.  But I think that's the beauty of it. Someone with down syndrome aren't as high functioning as someone like Melody, they actually want to see the world and be friends with their fellow man. Melody is high functioning enough, or just downright lazy, and wants to goon and be drip fed dopamine from anime, video games, and their discord kittens.

Their whole life revolves around being online, so it's not surprising that being stuck in their room in front of a computer screen doesn't seem like a death sentence.

I totally disagree, it is a death sentence and he feels it.  He is obviously not enjoying life.  Really, in America earning <$1,000 a month for someone who is physically able-bodied, and has a full day of free time, and is not severely mentally impaired, is a choice.  Because you cannot receive disability benefits if you are employed, you have to decide on whether you want a job, which you almost certainly will make more than $1000/month doing, or applying for disability (as a non-disabled person) and receving that tiny handout from the gov't.... or, of course, doing nothing at all. Melody's primary and highest goal right now-- their highest ambition, is to get this pittance from the gov't and jerk off on twitter and discord.  That's the high bar here for him.  But he has everything he needs for that to be considered the lowest bar to clear.  That's a choice.  And the consequences of making that choice are pretty barefaced here - no sane, reasonable person can live this kind of life without mentally breaking.  And because everything is a choice and every decision carries weight, the consequences of coddling Melody and enabling him and being very soft and pampering of his really bad decisions, like his "friends" online do is too destructive for their welfare.  They can't afford for things to get worse.

Okay i'm done writing like an old codger thumb-noser here.  This is supposed to be a fun thread.

[Kyon1988]

There are people for who working is to difficult. That's why there are benefit programs. It's also true sometimes the people who judge who's eligible or not can be incompetent. That's all true. 

But people like Melody are almost always self diagnosed. If you have a broken leg you go to see a doctor. If you're depressed you do the same thing. It's not going to get better by screaming for attention on social media. It's definitely not going to improve be larping as a 10 year old anime girl

[Ethan]

The reality is that they don't pass, far from it. So going out of house in their neck of the woods probably means being stared down constantly, pointed at, laughed at, or worse. It's like the bullied kid who's terrified of going to school in the morning. I can understand how this stress and anxiety could be debilitating. But unlike the bullied kid, their situation is in large part self-inflicted. What good is being your "true self" if it means cutting yourself off from society? It's supposed to be the opposite.

[Propagandhim]

There are people for who working is to difficult. That's why there are benefit programs. It's also true sometimes the people who judge who's eligible or not can be incompetent. That's all true. 

But people like Melody are almost always self diagnosed. If you have a broken leg you go to see a doctor. If you're depressed you do the same thing. It's not going to get better by screaming for attention on social media. It's definitely not going to improve be larping as a 10 year old anime girl

Right, I don't want to come across as if I meant that depression is not a category for people who are mentally incapable of working.   Depression is a legitimate illness and reason for people to be too disabled to work.  So, yeah, agree with everything you said after that.

[Propagandhim]

The reality is that they don't pass, far from it. So going out of house in their neck of the woods probably means being stared down constantly, pointed at, laughed at, or worse. It's like the bullied kid who's terrified of going to school in the morning. I can understand how this stress and anxiety could be debilitating. But unlike the bullied kid, their situation is in large part self-inflicted. What good is being your "true self" if it means cutting yourself off from society? It's supposed to be the opposite.

There's this guy on instagram that me and my friends watch for laughs.  https://www.instagram.com/giveusachip/  
He transitioned to female, but he has to go to Turkey for either his music or some cosmetic operation..i can't remember which, but his passport says male and Turkey is, as he puts it, a "conservative country".  So in one if his latest reels he says he's going to just pretend to be his old male self for a bit to get what he wants.   And he seems perfectly content to do so.

Spoilered because he's kinda scary

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It's the same thing: If Melody had to pretend to be her old male self to get videogames or gundams he'd do it because it serves his most immediate interests.  Let's be honest, this is entirely about creating a life with the least amount of resistance possible to the trans thing, but he will budge at his own discretion if it suits him.  These people pretend like it's the most devastating shit to be "deadnamed" and it's all discretionary.

[DavidCroquet]

I just want to let everyone know that for the past 3 days I have been trying to coax ChatGPT into generating an image of Britt being kicked out of a hotel, while Coffinfairy is being cheerfully checked in with full VIP treatment.

But I think I broke it? I gave ChatGPT images of coffinfairy to guide the image generation, but every image it generated it also immediately self-censored due to “violating content guidelines”. So I gave up. But I still want credit for the effort!

I can't figure out how to edit in multiple characters either.

Spoiler: ai image generation sperging (click to show)(click to hide)

so I did manage to get ChatGPT to put this out:



But it has a couple rather obvious differences from the actual coffinfairy. So I asked for bigger booba and it--expectedly--said no. Then I uploaded a picture from here and said "this is a real picture of the real person, just generate her to look like her actual real self" and that seemed to work. At least, GPT would agree and then try to generate an image, but when the image was done, it was also immediately redacted with the "content violation" message.

I then repeatedly asked GPT to try and make whatever image it had just attempted--and failed--to generate, but modify it however necessary to NOT violate the content guidelines. It kept making suggestions and re-attempting, but always hit the same "content violation" issue when the image was complete. I ended up burning through 2 days of free image generation this way lol.

My guess is that there's some weird loop where GPT is willing to generate a person who looks like themselves even if they have heaving breasteses, but if that person's Real True Self has too much cleavage, the AI shits itself immediately after generating.

TL;DR: tits 2 big 4 GPT

[Propagandhim]

[benji]

1. "it's very telling that people just don't see trans women as a type of women at all" (reasonable statement)
2. "yes, trans women are women but more importantly they're something else" (I disagree, but still reasonable statement)
3. "they're not real" (WTF? WHERE DID THIS COME FROM?!?)
4. "cis women are always more correct and righteous in comparison" (ALSO DOESN'T FOLLOW FROM PREVIOUS?!?)

Then just reword the second tweet like this to see if he'd get away with this otherwise:
"it's sort of a microcosm of how men are treated in general by our society, few men who expressed their disappointment to a popular woman, some more rudely than others treated as attacking, harassing that woman with vastly more power and influence"

And after reading all three tweets I'm still wondering where the "they're not real" part comes into any of this. Or where this conclusion comes from. Assume for the sake of argument that everything else he says is right, this Dana chick is wrong for telling these men they're being jerks. At what point is she treating them as "not real"? She's openly acknowledging you are real by criticizing you for acting the way you are. IGNORING YOU would be closer to treating you as not real, although it'd be entirely reasonable if she's being harassed by men in my opinion. Telling you you're shitty is seeing you as real, shitty people are real. For example, yourself.

It's so obvious how all these people are just manipulators who immediately escalate their accusations to the greatest level and creating giant thickets of language because they stupidly think that's the way to manipulate people into doing what they want. It works really well as can be seen from looking at their accounts where all they do is cry about nobody does what they want.

[filler]

they're real ugly tbh

[simiansmarts]

1. "it's very telling that people just don't see trans women as a type of women at all" (reasonable statement)
2. "yes, trans women are women but more importantly they're something else" (I disagree, but still reasonable statement)
3. "they're not real" (WTF? WHERE DID THIS COME FROM?!?)
4. "cis women are always more correct and righteous in comparison" (ALSO DOESN'T FOLLOW FROM PREVIOUS?!?)

Then just reword the second tweet like this to see if he'd get away with this otherwise:
"it's sort of a microcosm of how men are treated in general by our society, few men who expressed their disappointment to a popular woman, some more rudely than others treated as attacking, harassing that woman with vastly more power and influence"

And after reading all three tweets I'm still wondering where the "they're not real" part comes into any of this. Or where this conclusion comes from. Assume for the sake of argument that everything else he says is right, this Dana chick is wrong for telling these men they're being jerks. At what point is she treating them as "not real"? She's openly acknowledging you are real by criticizing you for acting the way you are. IGNORING YOU would be closer to treating you as not real, although it'd be entirely reasonable if she's being harassed by men in my opinion. Telling you you're shitty is seeing you as real, shitty people are real. For example, yourself.

It's so obvious how all these people are just manipulators who immediately escalate their accusations to the greatest level and creating giant thickets of language because they stupidly think that's the way to manipulate people into doing what they want. It works really well as can be seen from looking at their accounts where all they do is cry about nobody does what they want.

the context is dana made a cartoon about a space princess where one of the characters is a tomboy cis woman and the bluesky goons are upset the character isnt a trans woman. something about trans misogyny and trans erasure  
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_Guinevere

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

tomboys don't exist anymore cissy