Quote:Quote:Or stay home and have them stripped away even faster. Great pitch!
If you want people to vote for you, don't throw them under the bus as you align yourself more with the bigots and assholes of the world.
Ta-Nehisi Coates has a simple response to people like Newsom who were hosting people like Charlie Kirk on their podcast not too long ago:
Quote:If you think it is OK to dehumanize people, then conversation between you and me is probably not possible.
Quote:Quote:Or stay home and have them stripped away even faster. Great pitch!
Congrats on signaling to politicians that they've already earned your vote and so don't need to listen to a single word you ever say again.
ClickyCal wrote:This is what "Vote blue no matter who" and "Vote for the most electable candidate in the primaries" gets you. I'm glad Clicky has learned their lesson for supporting Kamala.
plagiarize, Moderator wrote:Scuffed wrote:I'm not one in favor of a wait and see approach. You kick up a stink to let these people know what you want and expect from them. You don't have to wait for them to fail you or give them the benefit of the doubt. They aren't your friends. Most of them are ideologically void so they need constant public feedback. Making demands after the damage is done is pointless. Indeed.
Not that it would make a difference here in MA, but I will not vote for someone who called Charlie Kirk a friend, and who happily sat down with other transphobes and agreed with them on points.
And I'll say that *now* before he's the candidate, to try and encourage as many people as possible to vote for *BETTER CANDIDATES*. Good luck.
Quote:The dog standing up and looking at Hasan is considered worth an admonishment and is according to Hasan an example of how insanely spoiled the dog has become under his mothers care
That is the thing that I feel is more difficult to explain. I can see everything else could be some sort of coincidences and bad luck, but the dude was clearly ticked off that the dog was moving outside its designated zone. The fact that the dog yelp and he didn’t even bother to look why just says that he knows why (“stop being such a baby”).
I cannot be 100 sure he electrocutes his dog, but that dog is clearly very afraid of him.
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I assume that if sex-ed for kids is such a major issue for you that you're willing to not vote in a presidential election or vote for Jill Stein, you're probably the type a person who would sit down with your kids to discuss people of gender and gender-inclusivity and all that jazz. So your kids won't be missing out on that stuff.
So I guess the big problem is that...other kids won't be taught that?
Not only does it play into the whole "grooming" argument (which I think is in large part bullshit), but also where does it stop? For everyone parent in Portland who wants 6 y/o to learn about trans people, there's one in Oklahoma who wants 6 y/o to lean about Jesus. Both are equally certain they're in the right.
Maybe concentrate on math, english, geography, etc., and that one module in grade 8 biology about the reproductive system. Worked alright in my days...
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(10-08-2025, 04:36 PM)Ethan wrote: I assume that if sex-ed for kids is such a major issue for you that you're willing to not vote in a presidential election or vote for Jill Stein, you're probably the type a person who would sit down with your kids to discuss people of gender and gender-inclusivity and all that jazz. So your kids won't be missing out on that stuff.
So I guess the big problem is that...other kids won't be taught that?
Not only does it play into the whole "grooming" argument (which I think is in large part bullshit), but also where does it stop? For everyone parent in Portland who wants 6 y/o to learn about trans people, there's one in Oklahoma who wants 6 y/o to lean about Jesus. Both are equally certain they're in the right.
Maybe concentrate on math, english, geography, etc., and that one module in grade 8 biology about the reproductive system. Worked alright in my days... Literally calling for erasure of trans people. Blueball was right about this place.
10-08-2025, 04:44 PM
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(10-08-2025, 04:06 PM)benji wrote: Quote:Quote:Or stay home and have them stripped away even faster. Great pitch!
If you want people to vote for you, don't throw them under the bus as you align yourself more with the bigots and assholes of the world.
Ta-Nehisi Coates has a simple response to people like Newsom who were hosting people like Charlie Kirk on their podcast not too long ago:
Quote:If you think it is OK to dehumanize people, then conversation between you and me is probably not possible. Quote:Quote:Or stay home and have them stripped away even faster. Great pitch!
Congrats on signaling to politicians that they've already earned your vote and so don't need to listen to a single word you ever say again.
ClickyCal wrote:This is what "Vote blue no matter who" and "Vote for the most electable candidate in the primaries" gets you. I'm glad Clicky has learned their lesson for supporting Kamala. 
Just a week ago Clicky was talking about how they're about to get rounded up and send to concentration camps and now another Republican president would be an acceptable outcome?
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It's like "Ethan" isn't even listening to trans people. They didn't know being trans was an option when they were a kid and wasted their entire lives, plagiarize didn't get this education and it harmed him for four decades. This is why kids need to be taught it, so they can realize they are eggs and get essential life saving medical care when they're young rather than having to wait until they're an adult and be harmed for life. And if their bigoted parents try to stand in their way, well, child abusers should be buried under the prison. Parents who will choose to protect their child's arbitrary gender assignment over saving their life don't deserve to be called parents. These are the "people" whose "concerns" Gavin Newsom thinks are worth discussing rather than protecting rights and lives: child murderers.
(10-08-2025, 03:22 PM)benji wrote: (10-08-2025, 03:10 PM)Snoopy wrote: Maybe there would be more trans healthcare if they’d voted for politicians who were against using American taxes to fund multinational companies. Then how would they get the trans healthcare? 
edit: derp, I completely forgot homemade HRT 
I know you Americans think spending your tax dollars on a proper health care system is mad extremist woke, blue haired, antifa, police state, communism, but think how nice it would be if you could afford to call for an ambulance if you had a heart attack. You might actually get to live as long as Bernie.
Zeo wishes he was on this level
Imran, post: 146160133, member: 28 wrote:Okay, I ask this every time we get a "If Newsom is the nominee, you MUST vote for him or be blamed for what happens" back-and-forth and never get an answer:
Which minorities are you willing to throw under the bus to get a Democrat in office? Name them, please.
And after you have named them, please say how far you personally are willing to strip their rights. Is it civil rights? Human rights? If Newsom suggests trans people can't ride the bus, would you be on board? What if he says brown people can't? I am just trying to get a sense of where the line is on voting blue no matter who.
Don't know but I definitely throw you under the bus in a heartbeat
(10-08-2025, 04:55 PM)Snoopy wrote: I know you Americans think spending your tax dollars on a proper health care system is mad extremist woke, blue haired, antifa, police state, communism, but think how nice it would be if you could afford to call for an ambulance if you had a heart attack. You might actually get to live as long as Bernie. You're the one who said we shouldn't be using American taxes to fund multinational corporations.
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(10-08-2025, 04:58 PM)Jansen wrote: Imran, post: 146160133, member: 28 wrote:Okay, I ask this every time we get a "If Newsom is the nominee, you MUST vote for him or be blamed for what happens" back-and-forth and never get an answer:
Which minorities are you willing to throw under the bus to get a Democrat in office? Name them, please.
And after you have named them, please say how far you personally are willing to strip their rights. Is it civil rights? Human rights? If Newsom suggests trans people can't ride the bus, would you be on board? What if he says brown people can't? I am just trying to get a sense of where the line is on voting blue no matter who. This guy used to be an actually employed games journalist at the largest video game magazine in the world. Now he's ban baiting people on a "video game" forum that's been captured by fringe beliefs.
(10-08-2025, 04:55 PM)Snoopy wrote: (10-08-2025, 03:22 PM)benji wrote: (10-08-2025, 03:10 PM)Snoopy wrote: Maybe there would be more trans healthcare if they’d voted for politicians who were against using American taxes to fund multinational companies. Then how would they get the trans healthcare? 
edit: derp, I completely forgot homemade HRT 
I know you Americans think spending your tax dollars on a proper health care system is mad extremist woke, blue haired, antifa, police state, communism, but think how nice it would be if you could afford to call for an ambulance if you had a heart attack. You might actually get to live as long as Bernie.
In socialist Canada, they make you pay for the ambulance. So you can have a free heart attack, but you have to drive yourself to the hospital first.
chaotic strike wrote:There's little separating Newsome from Republicans other than the D in his party affiliation when it comes to the homeless and trans rights. It's because certain Dem politicians have learned they can become Dem celebrities within the party if they just pay enough lip service to opposing Trump instead actually trying to pass progressive policies.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/newsom-vetos-a-gender-education-bill-has-until-the-end-of-the-week-to-sign-other-trans-protections.1319077/page-5#post-146166052
Spoiler: On the issues homelessness/welfare (click to show)(click to hide)
Quote: Address homelessness with 55,000 new housing units
The Governor's Blueprint ensures vulnerable people have the necessary help to get off our streets and get the mental health treatment they need. The plan adds $2 billion for mental health housing and services and clearing encampments. Governor Newsom's new investments expand on last year's $12 billion package--all told, creating 55,000 new housing units and treatment slots for people exiting homelessness.
Source: 2022 State of the State Address to California legislature , Feb 10, 2022
Nearly $2 billion to create more homeless housing
I'm mindful that we aren't truly addressing the needs of people in poverty unless we account for the biggest pressure most families face: housing and housing stability. Project Roomkey, launched in April, has provided over 35,000 homeless Californians with safe shelter from COVID. And Homekey, launched in July, created more than 6,000 new permanent housing units during the pandemic, buying hotels and motels and converting them at a third of the cost of traditional supportive housing.
Now, bringing the same spirit of innovation behind Project Roomkey and Homekey, we're committing nearly $2 billion this year to create more homeless housing, addressing mental health and substance abuse issues, and ending homelessness one person at a time. No one denies this is a huge challenge, but we know what it means to stare down big challenges.
Source: 2021 State of the State Address to California legislature , Mar 9, 2021
Homelessness must be at the top of our agenda
The most pernicious crisis in our midst is the ultimate manifestation of poverty: homelessness. It is a disgrace. It is our responsibility, and it must be at the top of our agenda.
We are making available 286 state properties--vacant lots, fairgrounds, armories and other state buildings--to be used by local governments, for free, for homelessness solutions. We have lease templates ready to go--and we're ready for partnership.
When we don't build housing for people at all income levels, we worsen the homeless crisis. It's a vicious cycle. And the only sustainable way out of it is to massively increase housing production. Let's match our courage on homelessness with courage on housing supply. This means a commitment--right now, this year--to major reform that will eliminate red tape, and delays for building critically needed housing--like affordable, multifamily homes--especially near transit and downtowns.
Source: 2020 California State of the State address , Feb 19, 2020
Right to Shelter: work with counties on homelessness
Some have recommended a legal "Right to Shelter." It's a provocative idea which forced the State to explore the limits of what local governments can be compelled to do. But right now, our imperative must be bringing governments together as working partners, not sparring partners in a court of law. Instead we are proposing strict accountability, comprehensive audits and a "do-it-or-lose-it" policy to hold local governments responsible for results. Take action or lose access to this new funding.
California has and will continue to extend its hand of partnership to Washington, seeking to jointly address this issue. Honestly, this partnership should be a given. But empty words and symbolic gestures won't mask a 15 percent across-the-board cut to HUD's budget. I'm old enough to remember when HUD was in the housing business. And I'm hopeful it will be again. After all, homelessness isn't a blue or a red issue. It's an everyone issue--a blight on the soul of America.
Source: 2020 California State of the State address , Feb 19, 2020
https://www.ontheissues.org/Governor/Gavin_Newsom_Welfare_+_Poverty.htm
Why just make shit up? This is why no one wants to engage with you freaks, even when he likely agrees with you on 95% of things that last 5% makes him persona non grata. Why even engage?
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(10-08-2025, 05:12 PM)kaleidoscopium wrote: chaotic strike wrote:There's little separating Newsome from Republicans other than the D in his party affiliation when it comes to the homeless and trans rights. It's because certain Dem politicians have learned they can become Dem celebrities within the party if they just pay enough lip service to opposing Trump instead actually trying to pass progressive policies.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/newsom-vetos-a-gender-education-bill-has-until-the-end-of-the-week-to-sign-other-trans-protections.1319077/page-5#post-146166052
Spoiler: On the issues homelessness/welfare (click to show)(click to hide)
Quote: Address homelessness with 55,000 new housing units
The Governor's Blueprint ensures vulnerable people have the necessary help to get off our streets and get the mental health treatment they need. The plan adds $2 billion for mental health housing and services and clearing encampments. Governor Newsom's new investments expand on last year's $12 billion package--all told, creating 55,000 new housing units and treatment slots for people exiting homelessness.
Source: 2022 State of the State Address to California legislature , Feb 10, 2022
Nearly $2 billion to create more homeless housing
I'm mindful that we aren't truly addressing the needs of people in poverty unless we account for the biggest pressure most families face: housing and housing stability. Project Roomkey, launched in April, has provided over 35,000 homeless Californians with safe shelter from COVID. And Homekey, launched in July, created more than 6,000 new permanent housing units during the pandemic, buying hotels and motels and converting them at a third of the cost of traditional supportive housing.
Now, bringing the same spirit of innovation behind Project Roomkey and Homekey, we're committing nearly $2 billion this year to create more homeless housing, addressing mental health and substance abuse issues, and ending homelessness one person at a time. No one denies this is a huge challenge, but we know what it means to stare down big challenges.
Source: 2021 State of the State Address to California legislature , Mar 9, 2021
Homelessness must be at the top of our agenda
The most pernicious crisis in our midst is the ultimate manifestation of poverty: homelessness. It is a disgrace. It is our responsibility, and it must be at the top of our agenda.
We are making available 286 state properties--vacant lots, fairgrounds, armories and other state buildings--to be used by local governments, for free, for homelessness solutions. We have lease templates ready to go--and we're ready for partnership.
When we don't build housing for people at all income levels, we worsen the homeless crisis. It's a vicious cycle. And the only sustainable way out of it is to massively increase housing production. Let's match our courage on homelessness with courage on housing supply. This means a commitment--right now, this year--to major reform that will eliminate red tape, and delays for building critically needed housing--like affordable, multifamily homes--especially near transit and downtowns.
Source: 2020 California State of the State address , Feb 19, 2020
Right to Shelter: work with counties on homelessness
Some have recommended a legal "Right to Shelter." It's a provocative idea which forced the State to explore the limits of what local governments can be compelled to do. But right now, our imperative must be bringing governments together as working partners, not sparring partners in a court of law. Instead we are proposing strict accountability, comprehensive audits and a "do-it-or-lose-it" policy to hold local governments responsible for results. Take action or lose access to this new funding.
California has and will continue to extend its hand of partnership to Washington, seeking to jointly address this issue. Honestly, this partnership should be a given. But empty words and symbolic gestures won't mask a 15 percent across-the-board cut to HUD's budget. I'm old enough to remember when HUD was in the housing business. And I'm hopeful it will be again. After all, homelessness isn't a blue or a red issue. It's an everyone issue--a blight on the soul of America.
Source: 2020 California State of the State address , Feb 19, 2020
https://www.ontheissues.org/Governor/Gavin_Newsom_Welfare_+_Poverty.htm
Why just make shit up? This is why no one wants to engage with you freaks, even when he likely agrees with you on 95% of things that last 5% makes him persona non grata. Why even engage?
Someone said it before, but as annoying as poli-era could be at times, at least they kind of knew about politics. Good job kicking them out, b-dubs.
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fluffy pillow wrote:Boy I can't wait for this cross-gen comparison period to be over so I can stop being flashbanged by Hogwarts fucking Legacy in every DF video
https://www.resetera.com/threads/digital-foundry-nintendo-switch-2-dlss-image-quality-analysis-tiny-dlss-full-fat-dlss-confirmed.1315675/page-3#post-146004811
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(10-08-2025, 05:12 PM)kaleidoscopium wrote: chaotic strike wrote:There's little separating Newsome from Republicans other than the D in his party affiliation when it comes to the homeless and trans rights.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/newsom-vetos-a-gender-education-bill-has-until-the-end-of-the-week-to-sign-other-trans-protections.1319077/page-5#post-146166052 I mean, if you think this then there's little separating any Democrat from Republicans on those issues outside of SF and NYC. And half the Democrats in those places.
10-08-2025, 05:35 PM
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(10-08-2025, 04:58 PM)Jansen wrote: Imran, post: 146160133, member: 28 wrote:Okay, I ask this every time we get a "If Newsom is the nominee, you MUST vote for him or be blamed for what happens" back-and-forth and never get an answer:
Which minorities are you willing to throw under the bus to get a Democrat in office? Name them, please.
And after you have named them, please say how far you personally are willing to strip their rights. Is it civil rights? Human rights? If Newsom suggests trans people can't ride the bus, would you be on board? What if he says brown people can't? I am just trying to get a sense of where the line is on voting blue no matter who.
Don't know but I definitely throw you under the bus in a heartbeat
Just as soon as he states what minorities he is willing to throw under the bus to boycott a Democrat and allow a worse republican in office? Name them, please.
And after he has named them, please state how far he is willing to put their rights in the hand of said Republican. Is it civil rights? Human rights? If JD Vance suggests trans people can't ride the bus, would you be on board if it meant boycotting Newsom? What if he says brown people can't? I am just trying to get a sense of where the line is for being leftist no matter who gets hurt.
Great argument there, Imran. Absolutely iron clad. Weren’t you a journalist? That’s supposed to be a profession requiring you to think occasionally.
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The last time a California Democrat refused to moderate their positions and more importantly, rhetoric while running for a national position she had to drop out before any voting happened, then became Vice President and then was disowned by these same posters for "throwing Palestinians (not even Americans) under the bus" while also now being accused of being a transphobe because she vaguely admitted she might have better lied about the transgender prisoner thing. A position so fringe that it kneecapped her against a guy half the country outright despises. A guy these same exact posters get into hysterics about his plans to put them in extermination camps every time he idiotically muses about any topic.
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(10-08-2025, 03:05 PM)Uncle wrote: did you know that medical science surrounding paracetamol suddenly leapt forward rapidly as soon as trump said tylenol causes autism
a random older version of the article from last year: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paracetamol&oldid=1256959043
![[Image: arhvqjs.png]](https://i.imgur.com/arhvqjs.png)
The same section of the page today:
![[Image: BHmugqm.png]](https://i.imgur.com/BHmugqm.png)
look at how backwards we all were, only a year ago, we suddenly got so big brain smart all of a sudden
then: "be cautious pregnant women, use it sparingly and in small doses just to be safe"
now: "orange man bad, chug it as much as you like, there are no bad effects"
seriously how many women and their children are going to be negatively affected by this backlash making it onto trusted, reliable wikipedia, which gets cited by google and makes it into AI summaries It took me a while before I realized Tylenol = Paracetamol
And honestly, we use that shit so much in this country that if that caused autism everyone would be autistic.
If you go to the doctor 99% of the time they tell you to take paracetamol and return in 2 weeks.
The expats in reddit are always complaining that healthcare in this country basically boils down to: "take a paracetamol"
In my experience it works pretty well and doesn't fuck you up as much as alternatives like Ibuprofen.
I always thought RFK was kind of stuck with the crackpots because the rest of the community wouldn't let him speak because he stood up to the corporations and most scientists in general were pretty positive about his neutral stance on things. But it turns out that he truely is mental and Trump is just happy he can point to Tylenol as the cause of Barrons autism and not his "superior" genes. And I think that Melania is perhaps more on the spectrum than he is.
10-08-2025, 05:54 PM
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You all know and are tired of my, let's call it disfavor, with the way most Americans or most people approach politics but it really needs to be emphasized more that Era is at best incredibly ignorant and at worst outright contemptuous of the very concept of democracy. At some level they don't understand that the very core of democracy is that you must take other people's concerns into account.
They shove that aside for a literal totalitarian dictatorship, one in which any "moral" individual (almost always themselves) is factually correct and so allowed to place their personal concerns not just over everyone else's but to demand everyone has a mandatory duty to address them at all times. And this is justified through a vague abstraction that amounts to little more than emotional hostage taking. Someone rejecting your concerns is a malicious act towards you, violence even, but you rejecting their concerns is basic human decency because they should be prioritizing your objectively superior concerns.
There is a fundamental assumption that not only are other people weak and immoral but that they exist solely as means to your ends, not their own. This is not up for debate. Sit down.
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(10-08-2025, 05:46 PM)Nintex wrote: It took me a while before I realized Tylenol = Paracetamol
if you had taken more of it you would've known instantly, but you would've struggled to articulate your response
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Pretty certain the original plan (when they announced they would cure autism by September) was to blame vaccines but over the summer, someone managed to convince Trump and possibly RFK Jr that it would be catastrophic and a step too far even for them, so they resorted to Tylenol after rummaging through PubMed. Like vaccines, it's so common that there would be obvious correlation, but unlike vaccines, people don't really rely on it to stay alive, so it's unlikely to get people killed. Plus minimum impact on their stock portfolios.
And additional bonus, you can push "endure the pain you pussy".
(10-08-2025, 03:53 PM)Ethan wrote: Hasan is not gonna fuck you Jeff.
He might put a collar on him though and shock him
Echos posted 45 minutes ago about Scrappy-Doo but there's no thread for International Lesbian Day yet.
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I think it's great that Echos can have some girl time and binge watch kids cartoons with her mother.
Dumb cunt annihilated yet again. 🤣
Spoiler: (click to show)(click to hide)
Clicked on Hasan's stream out of curiosity and he insists that he's not using a shock collar but at the same time he talks about how shock collars are actually not all that bad
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