Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/got-halfway-through-the-first-book-of-something-is-killing-the-children-before-returning-it-what-the-fck-was-that.1327141/ 
  

Got halfway through the first book of "Something is Killing the Children" before returning it. What the fck was that?

Jesus Christ....why?
Got a stack of graphic novels from the library since I've been out of the scene for about 10 yrs and just grabbed a few Id heard about and this was part of the stack.

What the fuck was that.

It is just such a standard monster hunting story, like could be a YA novel it's so just whatever based on my skimming of the back half. But it has legitimately the grisliest visialized violence against children I have seen in any media. Just pages and pages of some of the most intense violence I've seen in a comic.

I'm typically very whatever on media violence but this genuinely made me ill. Like the hook of the series as far as I could tell was the violence against kids.

What do fans of the series find in this?

 
 
>be me 
>open comic book called "something is killing the children" 
>be disgusted by the visuals of children being killed  
 

The original series is set in a world where vicious, demonic monsters are very real, and very, very dangerous. The main protagonist is Erica Slaughter, a highly-skilled but deeply cynical monster hunter and member of the mysterious Order of St. George, a secretive, brutal cabal of warriors who contain and destroy monstrous threats around the globe.

It totally sounds like an ultra violent YA novel series.  

Comic books are good. 

[benji]

Right?

Where are all the low post count righteous defenders when the context actually calls for them?

Hrmmmmm.

Then again, those of us who actually watch Hasan, know full well this is just another day, and another example, of Asmongold's usual depravity.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hasan-piker-ot-oh-your-such-a-big-man-hasan.321886/page-63#post-146470168

Who gives a shit about some guy who lives in garbage? There is a genocide going on.

I was thinking how cool it would be if Sony made a video game and the main character was a woman with a sword. Maybe she could be a Asian girl who makes sassy quips like, I ain’t got time fo this shizzle, when she’s jumping over rooftops or woo baby dat der muthafucka be deader than disco, when she kills a boss.

So you want a game starting Awkwafina?

She's a white adjacent cultural appropriator.  

This is not even counting the fact that the very nature of the system of capitalism is mired in the contradictions of lofty, seemingly humanistic promises to smooth over nakedly economic and imperialist ends for the few. The car was supposed to "free the man." Social media was supposed to "bring us together." And now, gen AI is supposed to "democratize art." It's always meaningless, feelgood paff that nonetheless gets swallowed whole by the undiscerning masses constantly waiting for this magical technological boom that is supposed to "save them" from the dehumanization of the very system they place their hopes in.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hideo-kojima-on-ai-id-like-it-to-handle-the-tedious-tasks-that-would-lower-cost-and-cut-down-on-time-co-creating-with-ai-instead-of-just-using-it.1326079/page-6#post-146478958

1. This is not a contradiction.
2. Even if these were contradictions, and they're not, how is it "the very nature of the system of capitalism?" Nepenthe's alternative is literally based around a contradiction that by having everything controlled with no alternatives allowed everyone becomes free to do whatever they want. She regularly advocates that billions need to suffer and die or else billions will suffer and die, including in this very post. These are actual contradictions.
3. All of these statements are true.
4. How are these statements meaningless?
5. If they were meaningless then how are they evidence of any contradictions?
6. Who made these statements? She demands evidence for things stated in the OP but invented someone who said these things?
7. Most importantly, where's the evidence that any of this was "swallowed whole" by undiscerning masses? Especially when people have bitched about all of this stuff.
8. Where's the evidence that these "undiscerning masses" are "waiting" for a technological boom or place their hopes in any system?

In the world of a self-imposed ignorant angry mind like Nepenthe or Blueball there's only one explanation for everything and it's to project your own biases onto the entire world because the "world only makes sense if you force it to." They're full of hatred so everywhere they look they see hate reflected back that "justifies" their own.

[Cheers]

Capitalist realism rears its head again.



The idea that the vague corporate talking points (and indeed, that vagueness is the point- what exactly are those tasks that are deemed to be "tedious?" They never explain. Gee, I wonder why) about generative AI's boons to the arts are sincere is laughable when not only are the companies themselves or their sycophants not actually providing the metadata necessary to prove these talking points as fact, but the affected workers are telling you to your faces that they are experiencing massive layoffs, displacement and isolation, and decreased efficiency.



This is not even counting the fact that the very nature of the system of capitalism is mired in the contradictions of lofty, seemingly humanistic promises to smooth over nakedly economic and imperialist ends for the few. The car was supposed to "free the man." Social media was supposed to "bring us together." And now, gen AI is supposed to "democratize art." It's always meaningless, feelgood paff that nonetheless gets swallowed whole by the undiscerning masses constantly waiting for this magical technological boom that is supposed to "save them" from the dehumanization of the very system they place their hopes in.



It is especially apparent with generative AI that this is all really an attempt to exponentially increase the level of exploitation and profit theft not just within the arts but everywhere this shit is being pushed when you fundamentally understand that profit solely comes from the exploitation of human labor, both physical and intellectual. You can't exploit an algorithm and magically pay it less than what it costs to operate the machinations necessary for its "work" (which I put in quotes because robots, algorithms, etc. do not actually classically perform labor like humans because they are fundamentally not autonomous beings acting independently to change the world through that labor), meaning it can't be exploited. If it costs $1000/mo. to operate Midjourney, then that's just what it costs.



But humans can be exploited. You can enslave humans or just simply not pay them the value of what they produce, hence the very existence of profit. (And don't act like we still don't engage in slavery just because it's not happening on your great-great-great grandpappy's backyard anymore). And what better goldmine of exploitation than pretty much all of the art in human existence that was scraped without the consent of its creators and privatized through legally-dubious means, all of that physical and intellectual labor just gobbled up by craven capitalists and being sold back to you under these enticing Faustian promises that you will finally be that artist you always dreamed of being or that you will have to wait less time for your distracting little treats to be made? GenAI is not a tool in the traditional sense that it is an object meant to vacuously increase the potential of human labor power; it is also a medium based upon and through which human exploitation occurs simultaneously.



This, of course, is just on top of the fact that the data centers necessary to power these things are massive energy sinks which, in a society actively dying due to rapid climate change, are fundamentally unsustainable (hey, did you know we just reached a tipping point with coral reef death? Welp, now you can't un-know that). Electricity costs are soaring. Towns are having their drinking water sucked dry. Forests are being cleared and polluted. Going back to exploitation, African data workers are the ones who are having to manually pick through all of the violent imagery, CSAM, and other gnarly shit that was inevitably nabbed up by these data scrapers, leaving them riddled with psychological issues and turning to drug abuse. All of this misery and destruction so some nerd on the Internet can create an ugly fake Ghibli screenshot, or some rich asshole like Kojima can not deal with the "tedious tasks."



Granted, I know none of this matters within the context of a hobbyist culture founded on little more than mindless consumerism. I just mistakenly expected better
 at this point.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hideo-kojima-on-ai-id-like-it-to-handle-the-tedious-tasks-that-would-lower-cost-and-cut-down-on-time-co-creating-with-ai-instead-of-just-using-it.1326079/page-6#post-146478958

Stop slacking y'all

Just mindless drivel.

[Boredfrom]

L Thammy is a closet gooner:

I don't know if I just mentally gloss over these things or it's because I have different shopping habits or what. I never know what people are talking about when they bring up these things on Switch.

I've noticed it on Steam, but I barely use Steam, so I guess it makes more of an impression when I open it up for the first time in months and it's all porn.

There is a lot of slop but the “all porn” panel is hyperbolic… unless you dig those games.

You uhh, you only see those kind of games if you allow it on Steam.

I'm aware that there's a setting to turn it off, I just don't really care to do so. Again, I don't use Steam for months at a time. It's not a big problem for me if it shows up because I'm usually opening it up for some specific purpose if I'm opening it up at all.

“Like gooning… i mean…”

https://www.resetera.com/threads/browsing-the-switch-eshop-is…-embarrassing.1327204/

[DavidCroquet]

meanwhile in this very thread:

OP banned for having an AI generated avatar--sorry, I mean "extremely inflammatory comparison".
First post banned for "avatar shaming".
Thread locked for going "off the goddamn rails".

[Boredfrom]

Abstract Daddy is monstrous, but it's also an incredible visual work precisely because of what it represents and how horrifyingly poignant, and creatively, these ideas are translated to a visual monstrosity. It is a work that exists in of itself independently, not unlike a painting, and while it's obviously horrific in what it conveys, I'm also not going to judge someone who looks at it and says "I really admire and appreciate the creativity and artistry that went into this nightmare", and buying a display figurine for that reason. People admire and display all kinds of art work across a range of powerful, meaningful, and sometimes confronting ideas, and often aren't displaying them as a source of pride or admiration for the content they represent, so much as the artistry accomplished. I don't want it on my shelf, but I'm not going to judge someone for feeling otherwise due to their appreciation for the Ito's artistry, including his darker work, for their personal reasonings, and I think there's a lot of pretty gross and judgemental puratism in this thread.

I cast far more judgement on the Anya figurine because of it not genuinely representing the original work as is (unlike the Abstract Daddy figurine), instead cutesifying the character and the horrible context in which it is associated for the purpose of shock and shlock. I don't judge a person who wants to own this, because people own plenty of weirder shit that I think sucks, but I judge the work itself, from my perspective, as gaudy, trashy, and explicitly self indulgent in the character's trauma for the purpose of a product that does not aim celebrate the original artistry but instead warp it into a goofy gimmick.

EDIT: I do want to add that the the very vocal online Mouthwashing 'fandom' is an embarrassing trainwreck, so I'm sure they'll eat this up

Man, every single ex mod is insane.

[benji]

I don't know if I just mentally gloss over these things or it's because I have different shopping habits or what. I never know what people are talking about when they bring up these things on Switch.

I've noticed it on Steam, but I barely use Steam, so I guess it makes more of an impression when I open it up for the first time in months and it's all porn.

I'm aware that there's a setting to turn it off, I just don't really care to do so. Again, I don't use Steam for months at a time. It's not a big problem for me if it shows up because I'm usually opening it up for some specific purpose if I'm opening it up at all.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/browsing-the-switch-eshop-is…-embarrassing.1327204/

This is just a weird series of posts absent of the porn context. He's posting to say he doesn't notice and doesn't care if he did?

[BananaBlast]

L Thammy is a closet gooner:

I don't know if I just mentally gloss over these things or it's because I have different shopping habits or what. I never know what people are talking about when they bring up these things on Switch.

I've noticed it on Steam, but I barely use Steam, so I guess it makes more of an impression when I open it up for the first time in months and it's all porn.

There is a lot of slop but the “all porn” panel is hyperbolic… unless you dig those games.

You uhh, you only see those kind of games if you allow it on Steam.

I'm aware that there's a setting to turn it off, I just don't really care to do so. Again, I don't use Steam for months at a time. It's not a big problem for me if it shows up because I'm usually opening it up for some specific purpose if I'm opening it up at all.

“Like gooning… i mean…”

https://www.resetera.com/threads/browsing-the-switch-eshop-is…-embarrassing.1327204/

Of course he is. He's a burka thread regular.

He claims he sees nothing but porn games on Steam, which if he's not exaggerating, literally only happens if you actually buy/play porn games. And then, despite being a little bitch who whines about sexualized characters, refuses to turn the option off. Even though it'd only take literally a few seconds. 

People claiming to be fiercely against sexualized women should do everything in their power to avoid seeing titties .......unless of course they've been disingenuous gooners the whole time.
 

[Averon]

The sheer fact that digital tits even exist is more than enough for them to fuel their resentment. It's not enough that they can tailor their experience to avoid sexiness. They must dictate that others follows their fake, selective prudishness.

[benji]

He claims he sees nothing but porn games on Steam, which if he's not exaggerating, literally only happens if you actually buy/play porn games. And then, despite being a little bitch who whines about sexualized characters, refuses to turn the option off. Even though it'd only take literally a few seconds. 

He basically ran into that thread to say he never sees it on Switch because he buys a wide variety of stuff but does see it on Steam because he only ever opens Steam to buy porn games.

[BananaBlast]

meanwhile in this very thread:

OP banned for having an AI generated avatar--sorry, I mean "extremely inflammatory comparison".
First post banned for "avatar shaming".
Thread locked for going "off the goddamn rails".

To be fair, the OP was acting very unhinged (possibly a troll), but so is the rest of Era. Only a shithole like Era would grill someone for having an AI avatar is if it were a failure of character.

He basically ran into that thread to say he never sees it on Switch because he buys a wide variety of stuff but does see it on Steam because he only ever opens Steam to buy porn games.

Yup, pretty much. He got put on the spot, and unconsciously confessed to using Steam for porn games. Hypocritical piece of shit.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

meanwhile in this very thread:

OP banned for having an AI generated avatar--sorry, I mean "extremely inflammatory comparison".
First post banned for "avatar shaming".
Thread locked for going "off the goddamn rails".

David. Place.

PLACE!

[benji]

Starting to think that some of you are just willfully ignoring that there is a genocide going on.

[BananaBlast]

link

Real talk, in high school I met a guy who, had the word "incel" been around there, I suspect would have fallen down that hole immediately. You could tell by looking at him interacting with women that he would immediately lose interest in conversation when it was clear that it wouldn't lead to losing his virginity. Don't think he had much interest in talking to guys for the same reason.

It ended up solidifying in my mind that I have much more respect for people who simply haven't found someone than people who so define themselves by the need for a relationship that they allow their desperation to rewrite the basic way that they approach other human beings.

....You sure you're not talking about yourself there, Thammy?

[benji]

It ended up solidifying in my mind that I have much more respect for people who simply haven't found someone than people who so define themselves by the need for a relationship that they allow their desperation to rewrite the basic way that they approach other human beings.

"Real talk," you have much more respect for people who suffer bad luck than people who define themselves negatively by forces of their own creation?

[Snoopy]

More from Tammy  -

Wow, I had just thinking over the past week that I should start exploring KISS' music more to see what they have going for them.

Wow. He was thinking about "exploring" KISS and then one of them dies. That's crazy. If you think about it. Peter Criss would still be alive if this asshole hadn't been thinking about exploring his music.

[Daffy Duck]

You gotta watch porn to sleep?

I figured I could skip over one step of the nightly ritual without confusion for the sake of not being too gross.

I kinda figured this was a common thing.

Lmao…what? No, this is not normal.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-porn-sites-ever-gonna-go-back-to-normal-id-requests-for-some-states.1199166/

[Daffy Duck]

Fuck Snoop Dogg. But also good. I'll always take more representation. But still fuck him. I'll take the net good, but this feels 100% like a PR move. Not trusting this to mean much after performing for Trump and saying what he said about Lightyear.

These people are just never ever happy.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/snoop-dogg-is-using-his-animated-kids-show-to-support-lgbtq-families.1327312/

[benji]

Fuck Snoop Dogg. But also good. I'll always take more representation. But still fuck him. I'll take the net good, but this feels 100% like a PR move. Not trusting this to mean much after performing for Trump and saying what he said about Lightyear.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/snoop-dogg-is-using-his-animated-kids-show-to-support-lgbtq-families.1327312/

They're so hilariously conspiratorial. Yes, it's most likely that Snoop Dogg is doing this just to improve his "ruined" reputation among Era/Bluesky and not that he legitimately is not a virulently bigoted person who wants all LGBT people dead who just made a slightly poorly worded comment that you chose to take as "unmasking" his true fascist views. You really are the center of the universe and Snoop Dogg cripwalks to your whims.

[Besticus Maximus]

Those of us who know snoop dogg understand its impossible that he'd ever do that

[benji]

It's funny that they don't understand hip hop people's regular appreciation of Trump, how can you not see Trump's gaudy kingpin public persona is basically that of a rapper? He's constantly spinning tall tales of his successes and excesses, claiming he's misunderstood by The Man but not the people and feuding with anyone he can while holding onto those beefs forever. He even throws his name and gold on literally everything. Them not getting it sounds about white.

[Chumbawumbafan69]

It wasn't quite clear, actually, or I wouldn't have responded to you. It looked like a swipe at a large industry full of minority artists for internet points to me. You can keep holding the L.

 What an amazing forum, it's always a race to interpret things in the worst possible way so that everyone's always offended.

[Besticus Maximus]

It's funny that they don't understand hip hop people's regular appreciation of Trump, how can you not see Trump's gaudy kingpin public persona is basically that of a rapper? He's constantly spinning tall tales of his successes and excesses, claiming he's misunderstood by The Man but not the people and feuding with anyone he can while holding onto those beefs forever. He even throws his name and gold on literally everything. Them not getting it sounds about white.

Got shot at and and used it to further his career

[Blueball]

Despite the name "Melody Shreds" he has like two guitars he doesn't know to play but are clearly visibly dirty with what is suspected to be cum.

Is it safe to say Benji obviously jacks off to this and has a fetish?

Blueball, you probably jack off to Melody Shreds.

Sorry, to break it to you, but the only interactions I have with this Melody individual is through your obessive posts. This said...

link

Honestly this censorship annoyed me. It's already censored enough in an artistic way in the original. The remake just makes the entire scene feel pointless because you can barely see jack shit. And the people who claim to be anti-censorship were mostly very silent on this one, because it didn't involve a waifu.

This guy claims "artistic reasons" of why it annoyed him, but the truth is that he's a gay man upset there isn't more male fanservice in games. Said so himself. 

Reminder this guy constantly whines about women being sexualized in the burka thread, under the pretense of feminist virtue signaling bullshit, but in reality it's mostly because he's grossed out by women, and salty his homoerotic fantasies aren't being catered to.

it's clear several people here have weird sexual fantasies about era users.

[Chumbawumbafan69]

My sexual fantasies about era users ARE NOT weird.

[jooseloose]

Abstract Daddy is monstrous, but it's also an incredible visual work precisely because of what it represents and how horrifyingly poignant, and creatively, these ideas are translated to a visual monstrosity. It is a work that exists in of itself independently, not unlike a painting, and while it's obviously horrific in what it conveys, I'm also not going to judge someone who looks at it and says "I really admire and appreciate the creativity and artistry that went into this nightmare", and buying a display figurine for that reason. People admire and display all kinds of art work across a range of powerful, meaningful, and sometimes confronting ideas, and often aren't displaying them as a source of pride or admiration for the content they represent, so much as the artistry accomplished. I don't want it on my shelf, but I'm not going to judge someone for feeling otherwise due to their appreciation for the Ito's artistry, including his darker work, for their personal reasonings, and I think there's a lot of pretty gross and judgemental puratism in this thread.

I cast far more judgement on the Anya figurine because of it not genuinely representing the original work as is (unlike the Abstract Daddy figurine), instead cutesifying the character and the horrible context in which it is associated for the purpose of shock and shlock. I don't judge a person who wants to own this, because people own plenty of weirder shit that I think sucks, but I judge the work itself, from my perspective, as gaudy, trashy, and explicitly self indulgent in the character's trauma for the purpose of a product that does not aim celebrate the original artistry but instead warp it into a goofy gimmick.

EDIT: I do want to add that the the very vocal online Mouthwashing 'fandom' is an embarrassing trainwreck, so I'm sure they'll eat this up

Man, every single ex mod is insane.

Every time I see one of his posts it's just a big, multi-paragraph, pseudo-intellectual word salad.

[HardcoreRetro]

The name me and my friend gave that Silent Hill 2 enemy as a child is way better than Abstract Daddy. 

Me and my friend called that enemy the Rape Table. 

[Taco Bell Tower]

Fuck Snoop Dogg. But also good. I'll always take more representation. But still fuck him. I'll take the net good, but this feels 100% like a PR move. Not trusting this to mean much after performing for Trump and saying what he said about Lightyear.

These people are just never ever happy.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/snoop-dogg-is-using-his-animated-kids-show-to-support-lgbtq-families.1327312/

Damn if you do damn if you don't.  Sorry Snoop Dogg but you made the bed when you sided with that TERF BITCH JOANNE 

[Uncle]

Silent Hill is a franchise that survived for YEARS off of its fans buying merchandise and tie-in material in place of actual games. There IS an audience for the rape monster figurine that will buy it no matter how much REEE types want to morally grandstand about how the vendor is "insensitive" for making it.

I mean, if for no other reason than owning every boss in the game, regardless of what it might represent

[HaughtyFrank]

Maybe there would be less of a problem if Silent Hill had a bit more consensual love making monsters