XSX vs PS5

[Nintex]

Microsoft solved Nintendo's problem that the Switch 2 is expensive by raising their own prices. 

The Series S in particular is incredibly poor value now.

[Potato]

WORST GENERATION OF ALL TIME



PS6/series 2 are gonna be so expensive

Bold prediction there Cotton

[chronovore]

So, the PS5 I bought is basically a Rocket League/Fortnite box for my kids and a PS4 Pro Pro for me. 

At some point I need to resub to PS+ to play Helldivers 2, but I kind of just don't care. 

Everything is live service, expansion passes and PlayStation angry dad slop™ and I genuinely feel that this will be my last PlayStation console ever. 

I'll be going PC and Nintendo from here on out.

I'm finding that many of the games I'm playing on PS5 are PS4 games I didn't get around to, or didn't finish. I don't see myself buying a PS6 (or a Switch 2 for that matter). 

I'm currently mid-upgrade on my PC, but plan to keep updating it like the Ship of Theseus until I can't do it any longer.

[Polident]

That’s what my PS5 was and I can’t say I regret it. Late 2020 to 2022, there was lots of free time to play it. Got a lot of use out of it. But I think Astrobot is the only “PS5” game I cared for and not enough to buy a console for.

I’ll get a Switch 2 at some point. I’ll build a desktop in Japan if my laptop ever feels lacking. But for my purposes, I cannot picture a future where I get another Sony or Microsoft console. I don’t think I’ve ever used much less seen the Xbox 4. Nor the PS5 Pro that exists for some reason.

[who is ted danson?]

GTA6 delayed too lmao. So price hikes just in time for the people buying for GTA.

6 years into the generation for GTA 6

What is even the point of this gen?

[Potato]

It's been pretty fucking embarrassing.

[Polident]

Elder Scrolls 6 (Skyrim 2) was announced in 2018 and there’s a strong possibility it won’t release until 2027. Maybe it’s not the worst thing if they can learn from Starfield’s failings.

[Nintex]

Lmao

[who is ted danson?]

Lmao

Wtf hahaha

$800 launch for the next gen

[Nintex]

$8000 by the time that launches and you have to wire mr. Trump $50 because it says so in the new Constitution

[Nintex]

"Vertical Slice 1"

8 years of development and that's what they were working on

[Besticus Maximus]

Genuinely boggles the mind what they were doing all day with all that money

[HardcoreRetro]

They probably had one team for sensitivity readings and one team to figure out what it means for Joanna Dark to be a woman. And what actually is a woman anyways? 

Eight years later, they still don't know.

[Nintex]

Cancelled Gamepass just in time to avoid the price hike.

It's 29.99 a month now up from 19.99.

[HardcoreRetro]

Just in time for the new ....... and ........

Xbox Game Studios are hitting it out of the park.

What a steal!

[who is ted danson?]

At a point it becomes "wait for a sale" instead of play it on game pass. PC game pass is still with dipping in and out of... But yeah wtf haha

[nachobro]

you people were paying monthly? 


giftcard stacking  

thanks for the free 12k vbucks a year, ms

[Alpacx]

Watched a few reviews of the RoG Xbox Ally device. Seems expensive with a lot of windows bloat. 

Then I go and look and it doesn't even play Xbox games you've bought on your Xbox library, only PC Xbox games? What's the point? 

I keep thinking about buying a PlayStation or Xbox to get back into sports games but the cost for a generation getting on its last legs is tough to justify.

[Potato]

My biggest regret is forgetting to factor in the cost of playing online to my PS5 purchase. I stopped paying for PS+ early on and it's basically made online gaming useless except for GAAS stuff like Rocket League and Fortnite (which my kids play).

I impulse-bought Helldivers 2 for cheap without thinking about it and haven't even played it. I'm basically buying that kind of thing on PC from now on.

[Nintex]

Just go Switch 2 + PC

Might as well close this thread Xbox is dead as a dodo

[Potato]

Just go Switch 2 + PC

Might as well close this thread Xbox is dead as a dodo

That's pretty much what I'm doing. My son plays Rocket League on PS5 though. 

I'll be skipping PS6 for sure. He'll be old enough for a modest gaming PC by then.

[who is ted danson?]

MS could still win

Xbox Series 2 launching October 2026
$399 (make Nvidia pay with an AI deal to subsidise the hardware)
Day 1 GTA 6 "next gen" and a good new Halo game
Monster energy promotion

But they wont because they have forgotten how to

[Alpacx]

Just go Switch 2 + PC

Might as well close this thread Xbox is dead as a dodo

But then you're only half contributing to the genocide through windows.

And Switch 2 is for suckers until they release a non gimped version with VRR in docked mode.

[Eric Cartman]

MS could still win

Xbox Series 2 launching October 2026
$399 (make Nvidia pay with an AI deal to subsidise the hardware)
Day 1 GTA 6 "next gen" and a good new Halo game
Monster energy promotion

But they wont because they have forgotten how to

I dunno, hindsight kind of suggests to me that they never knew how to, they just caught an insanely lucky break that sony went full retard with the PS3 and nintendo went 'nah, fuck this, were doing a different thing' with the wii

[Potato]

No, I think they had a good strategy with the 360.

• Easiest platform to develop for and every PC game could be ported over pretty easily.
  
• They hit the right notes with Xbox Live, which left Sony clutching at straws.
  
• The price was super sharp compared to the PS3 which was hilariously overpriced.
  
• Their messaging was spot on with the games, games, games mantra.
  

PS3 was the Xbox One of its generation with the emphasis put on multimedia rather than it being a games machine. It was super interesting to watch Microsoft make the exact same mistakes Sony made with the PS3 with the XBO and to watch Sony learn the lessons from the Xbox success with the PS4.

[benji]

How well they nailed that gen is demonstrated by how the red ring didn't kill them. Nobody even cares that they knew about it before launch and said "fuck it, we'll replace them with ones that are hopefully correct" also before knowing they had corrected it.

The 360 was slightly too early for the integrated mobile world (and AMD really, they were still ATi) but they understood better than Sony did where consoles needed to go, probably in part because the Xbox was literally seeing how much shit from a PC they could cram in a box just to get something out there.

Kutugari was still on that "every machine will connect to every other machine and create a gigantic network" shit without anyone at Sony telling him no and nobody on his staff telling him the tech didn't exist for it so the Cell was never future proof. Even the Cell was a step back from the fact he already thought the PS2's would do it. Then that's the first thing they cut out to bring down the price. Meanwhile, it took how many years before any third-party developers bothered to learn how to use the SPU's. People forget how bad devs were at getting on the mulithreading train but us PC people knew how few ports used it. Also the exclusives, Crysis is only singlethreaded which is why it still runs like it does. That's why the remasters are built on the 360 versions. Microsoft, being a software company, knew their multithreading had to be pretty simple and near automatic at a basic level.

Sony wasn't helped by the fact they went with nVIDIA when that company was putting out the FX garbage then trying to recover from it and Microsoft was basically handed the price/performance GPU of that era. Not that Microsoft was going to go with nVIDIA after what happened with the first Xbox. It was the next generation after the RSX where nVIDIA got their mojo back and put out the 8800GT all time king.

Getting out a year early was big too. What if they had put out the Series S a year early and then the Series X when the PS5 launched? Xbox corporate culture is so weird because they do have these revolutionary concepts and then they always execute them in the most conservative way to where they're practically saying they're going to abandon it as soon as they have any issues. Remember when the Kinect was mandatory with the One and was like 75% of their presentations? Even though they never could articulate any reason for this other than "Xbox, watch ESPN." Thing was gone from the box in like six months.

[Alpacx]

How well they nailed that gen is demonstrated by how the red ring didn't kill them. Nobody even cares that they knew about it before launch and said "fuck it, we'll replace them with ones that are hopefully correct" also before knowing they had corrected it.

IGN naming their Xbox podcast"Three Red Lights". Game journalism used to be fun and consumer-focused.

[benji]

That gen is great because all three consoles had high failure rates for almost the same exact reasons. I actually wonder if the Wii's have higher failure rates than the 360's but nobody left them on long enough for the heat to break them. The Wii's have a bonus because not only will the GPU's die but the bluetooth module will heat up and come off the motherboard.

Having become an expert at opening my Dreamcast to push the power supply back onto the pins one of my initial evaluations of the Wii was "there's no way that dinky fan moves enough air in a case this size."

[Nintex]

The Wii GPU would just artifact and you wouldn't notice much difference in the shit graphics anyway.

Wait a few hours it would cool off and work again. 

A few games were notorious to overheat. Metroid Prime 3 being one of them.

[benji]

That was not my experience, the artifacting was the sign of death to be and did not go away until the GPU itself died.