Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sydney-sweeney-speaks-on-jean-ad-controversy-folks-she-just-likes-jeans-nothing-to-see-here.1344922/page-4#post-147404056

 User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissing concerns of racism

Made up?

Edit: Overblown?

Yes and even here most people agreed this was dumb when it first blew up. People bending over backwards to be outraged about things that aren't there.

I watched the interview too and she kept trying to get a gotcha on Sweeney it was insane. "I would like it if someone very powerful had my back, how did Trump's tweet make you feel" she wasn't having any of getting lured into making it some political thing or anything other than a damn Jean ad.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sydney-sweeney-speaks-on-jean-ad-controversy-folks-she-just-likes-jeans-nothing-to-see-here.1344922/page-4#post-147404419

Not everyone is gonna hear a dogwhistle. If you didn't, that's fine, but then the choice becomes incumbent on you on whether you listen to progressives and BIPOC people here that heard it and are calling it for what it is or people like the Trump admin who have a vested interest in gaslighting and pretending they didn't hear it too.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sydney-sweeney-speaks-on-jean-ad-controversy-folks-she-just-likes-jeans-nothing-to-see-here.1344922/page-3#post-147399061

This whole controversy was largely amplified by the right to make left leaning people say extreme stuff online for their own benefit, I wouldn't exactly call it made up because the core criticism is apt but its definitely artificially overblown on purpose

[DavidCroquet]

Not everyone is gonna hear a dogwhistle. If you didn't, that's fine, but then the choice becomes incumbent on you on whether you listen to progressives and BIPOC people here that heard it and are calling it for what it is or people like the Trump admin who have a vested interest in gaslighting and pretending they didn't hear it too.

Wait…if I don’t hear the dog whistle, I’m the problem? Isn’t the point of the dogwhistle to only be understood by your 100% bought-in evil allies who have access to the Nazi decoder ring?

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sydney-sweeney-speaks-on-jean-ad-controversy-folks-she-just-likes-jeans-nothing-to-see-here.1344922/page-4#post-147404419

Not everyone is gonna hear a dogwhistle. If you didn't, that's fine, but then the choice becomes incumbent on you on whether you listen to progressives and BIPOC people here that heard it and are calling it for what it is or people like the Trump admin who have a vested interest in gaslighting and pretending they didn't hear it too.

Another example of how you have to make yourself hostage to the most extreme insane person making the most radical claim at all times or else you're a Nazi. In the original thread you had people, like Fiction, arguing that any mentions of genetics as a concept at all is eugenics. And then they accuse others of gaslighting people? Something that continues in this thread as they expect you to believe it's both true that was this was a Nazi pustch hidden in a jeans ad and also not a big deal thing that the right is trying to convince you progressives believe.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sydney-sweeney-speaks-on-jean-ad-controversy-folks-she-just-likes-jeans-nothing-to-see-here.1344922/page-3#post-147399061

This whole controversy was largely amplified by the right to make left leaning people say extreme stuff online for their own benefit, I wouldn't exactly call it made up because the core criticism is apt but its definitely artificially overblown on purpose

As I pointed out, their own source for the claim it was "amplified by the right" showed that it started and continued on Bluesky well before and well after everyone else lost interest and stopped talking about it.

Wait…if I don’t hear the dog whistle, I’m the problem? Isn’t the point of the dogwhistle to only be understood by your 100% bought-in evil allies who have access to the Nazi decoder ring?

They lost control of this metaphor/analogy like a decade ago, I don't think anyone has ever used it correctly on Era.

[filler]

Spoiler: nsfw artwork of an absolute Chad forum owner (click to show)(click to hide)

[Boredfrom]

Not everyone is gonna hear a dogwhistle. If you didn't, that's fine, but then the choice becomes incumbent on you on whether you listen to progressives and BIPOC people here that heard it and are calling it for what it is or people like the Trump admin who have a vested interest in gaslighting and pretending they didn't hear it too.

What if I use my brain?

[benji]

Not everyone is gonna hear a dogwhistle. If you didn't, that's fine, but then the choice becomes incumbent on you on whether you listen to progressives and BIPOC people here that heard it and are calling it for what it is or people like the Trump admin who have a vested interest in gaslighting and pretending they didn't hear it too.

What if I use my brain?

Exactly what the fascists are counting on.

[Boredfrom]

Considering i sold my ps5, it is not happening, and even without that, i never cared to finish gta 5 so i'm not interested, and EVEN without that, the union busting bullshit Rockstart is doing is not making me interested enough to look at the game.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/poll-pc-gamers-would-you-get-a-console-or-a-console-copy-if-you-already-have-one-to-play-gta-6-early-assuming-a-2028-release-date.1347583/

[Jansen]

GTAV is awesome I finished it on three different consoles lol

[books]

the union busting bullshit Rockstart is doing is not making me interested enough to look at the game.

I agree. I can barely be motivated to shoot and run over pedestrians when the game releases.

[Taco Bell Tower]

The idea that the patient she mentioned was superior to me and that no matter what I did, I could never be as good as her weighed heavily on me, and I felt great sadness.

Asshole, she didn’t tell you this to make you feel worse, she told you this to motivate you. And if you don’t feel that way, tell her how you feel before going to cry to ERA to ruin any progress you have made.

She would probably be all   on the inside if he mentioned that

[benji]

Has Era fawned over this "left's Joe Rogan" yet?

Greg failed by not quoting her first line of "if this party was all white people it'd be boring" since it's the setup.

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[simiansmarts]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/smash-ultimate-switch-2-or-smash-6.1347886/ 
 

We've had this thread a hundred times so what's another one? Lol

I think I'd rather Smash Ultimate 2 Switch simply because that roster cannot be topped, and it feels like Smash has peaked with Ultimate so why not just add more?

 
 
He just casually admits he's been making low effort threads

[benji]

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[HaughtyFrank]

He's a Taylor Swift hater now?

[benji]

I suspect Rodrigo won't actually be asking her label to actually do what they can against this versus a meaningless social media comment.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sydney-sweeney-speaks-on-jean-ad-controversy-folks-she-just-likes-jeans-nothing-to-see-here.1344922/page-5#post-147416350

The people who are trying to say it's just "pushing a narrative" that was sharing opinions from "right wing circles" making those who were blasting those opinions seem more widespread than they are.

You're not saying what you think you are. Because those opinions are coming from marginalized folks. The same way that Defund the police did. That Black Lives Matter. That Trans people matter. That Queer Lives matter did. And right wing, homophobic, racist, transphobic fucks run and alter and change a simple message into something that riles up their base and eventually is heard by our supposed allies as something that is unreasonable. But those messages ALWAYS begin in the communities most impacted by this shit, and they're probably the most sensible, reasonable, he, wouldn't it be nice if you listened to us takes. But you never listen to us. You always listen to the racist takes and think it's blown out of proportion because their takes are more valuable than ours.

And somehow, you think these messages that come from multi-million dollar companies don't take all of this into account. That you don't think they have psychologists and market analysts and all of the shit that money can by that can count on your wishy washey asses that will NEVER actually listen to the people this impacts. They KNOW you'll ignore us. They KNOW they can rely on you to say that the ad is just the ad because your media literacy skills are on the level of toddlers.

Which is insulting to some toddlers.

These analyses just say to me, "Marginalized voices don't matter." Because it wasn't even that serious. It's just a dumb ad. If you just listened, it wouldn't blow up. It'd just be like, lol, dumb shit. And keep it moving. But because y'all don't like what you see in the mirror. Don't want to see your beloved white women dragged, it becomes a controversy.

[Besticus Maximus]

The same way that Defund the police did.

But then who do I call when Benji uses illegal tools like googling usernames?

[filler]

does tyler still make money off neogaf? 

benj?

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sydney-sweeney-speaks-on-jean-ad-controversy-folks-she-just-likes-jeans-nothing-to-see-here.1344922/page-5#post-147416350

But those messages ALWAYS begin in the communities most impacted by this shit ... That you don't think they have psychologists and market analysts and all of the shit that money can by that can count on your wishy washey asses that will NEVER actually listen to the people this impacts.

Who is impacted by this and how?

does tyler still make money off neogaf? 

benj?

It still has a couple thousand users (? no idea actually) and ads so it should make money. Obviously not what Evilore used to make or even that multi-million offer he turned down that Cerium took for slightly less. But I don't think he works otherwise still? It'd be a step down from probably what he expected to make but if it he didn't blow all that earlier he'd probably be fine with that invested plus the smaller income. Of course I have no idea what any of the cost side looks like, he could be paying for a lot of overpriced hosting and features and so on. Or maybe he's not or paired that down as the site became less popular.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sydney-sweeney-speaks-on-jean-ad-controversy-folks-she-just-likes-jeans-nothing-to-see-here.1344922/page-5#post-147416350

But those messages ALWAYS begin in the communities most impacted by this shit ... That you don't think they have psychologists and market analysts and all of the shit that money can by that can count on your wishy washey asses that will NEVER actually listen to the people this impacts.

Who is impacted by this and how?

It's getting very lazy. He didn't even bother to use the infinitely ambiguous 'harm'

[benji]

The thing is even a casual acknowledgement of the controversy would have been better than this, if you were going to talk about it at all.

"I really wasn't thinking about any racial implications. My bad, I just thought I was making a sexy jeans ad."

Imperfect? Yes. Would everyone have bought it? Likely not.

But some people would have; and, more importantly, it could be said that you were no longer adding fuel to a racist dialogue.

But the blank unbothered staring, and the intentional refusal to answer the question when it's directly put to you (well, kinda directly. It must be pointed out how bad this interview is on the part of the interviewer)…

And, mind you, this is before I factor in her family, the man she's currently dating, and the fact that she herself is a registered Republican.

It's the smirking for me. I can't fucking stand her.

There is no chance in hell this shit wasn't intentional. Literally zero.

This is why dog whistles are so fucking effective. I had an argument with a friend who just refused to acknowledge what she was doing and looked at me as if I was crazy. "It's just an ad". It's infuriating.

This shit almost makes you go crazy, because the sons of bitches doing this shit would never admit to it, eventhough it's clear as day.

Heck, even if she did, she'd still have idiots defending her.

This is why dog whistles are so fucking effective. I had an argument with a friend who just refused to acknowledge what she was doing and looked at me as if I was crazy. "It's just an ad".

This is something I've noticed in conversations about bigotry in general lately.

The way that current society (largely, social media) has totally sandblasted nuance in the communication of ideas.

People really can't grasp the concept of a dog-whistle. With dog-whistling, the plausible deniability is the entire point.

If the racial implications were entirely clear and understood by everyone, it wouldn't be a dog-whistle. It would just be fucking racism.

The original thread had a perfect post on the first page but I can't visit that thread because they hid it to people who aren't members. I had to emotionally labor to search for my own post on a hate site instead:

I love that there's this post on the first page:

they knew what they were doing? dog whistle? let's just... spell that out. you guys are saying that marketing folks at american eagle decided, collectively, that what they really needed was subliminal aryan marketing, that this was desirable and good and worth their time, because they are so racist that they want to send secret love letters to racists.

[Besticus Maximus]

If this was any kind of progressivivist forum we'd have banned that devil whore already, but y'all aint serious people

[simiansmarts]

I get the impression he thinks the purpose of therapy is for someone to puff his ego and tell him he's so much better than the other children rather than provide assistance as he works through why these things are wrong and he doesn't need to care about them.

That's literally the phenomenon of people using chatgpt as their personal therapist and getting AI-induced psychosis. 

[benji]

Which is yet another reason why anyone using AI for any reason needs to be outlawed.

[HaughtyFrank]

Has Era fawned over this "left's Joe Rogan" yet?

Greg failed by not quoting her first line of "if this party was all white people it'd be boring" since it's the setup.

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[BananaBlast]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sydney-sweeney-speaks-on-jean-ad-controversy-folks-she-just-likes-jeans-nothing-to-see-here.1344922/page-4#post-147404056

 User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissing concerns of racism

Made up?

Edit: Overblown?

Yes and even here most people agreed this was dumb when it first blew up. People bending over backwards to be outraged about things that aren't there.

I watched the interview too and she kept trying to get a gotcha on Sweeney it was insane. "I would like it if someone very powerful had my back, how did Trump's tweet make you feel" she wasn't having any of getting lured into making it some political thing or anything other than a damn Jean ad.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sydney-sweeney-speaks-on-jean-ad-controversy-folks-she-just-likes-jeans-nothing-to-see-here.1344922/page-4#post-147404419

Not everyone is gonna hear a dogwhistle. If you didn't, that's fine, but then the choice becomes incumbent on you on whether you listen to progressives and BIPOC people here that heard it and are calling it for what it is or people like the Trump admin who have a vested interest in gaslighting and pretending they didn't hear it too.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sydney-sweeney-speaks-on-jean-ad-controversy-folks-she-just-likes-jeans-nothing-to-see-here.1344922/page-3#post-147399061

This whole controversy was largely amplified by the right to make left leaning people say extreme stuff online for their own benefit, I wouldn't exactly call it made up because the core criticism is apt but its definitely artificially overblown on purpose

Kibbles lied on the behalf on Era, as to make the community look less insane and paranoid. And then he quickly found out.

Kibbles: "We agreed it was just an overblown dumb conspiracy theory by the alt-right. We're not going to be easily baited and outraged by such a thing. We wouldn't push every single one of our increasingly radical beliefs on every single person or conversation we come across"

Era: ......Fuck you mean "we?"

[D3RANG3D]

Has Era fawned over this "left's Joe Rogan" yet?

Greg failed by not quoting her first line of "if this party was all white people it'd be boring" since it's the setup.

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Is this :mysoggyknees!?

[Orange Juice Box]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-every-demographic-group-shifted-from-2024-to-2025-strength-in-numbers.1347154/

There's probably a whole host of reasons why Dems lost. The only thing really certain is that, just by the math of the FPTP and the two-party system, as well as the fact that both parties are capitalist, you're always going to have this kind of flip-flopping just as a statistical inevitability, particularly in a populous that's as undereducated as America's.

If it's a "statistical inevitability" then why are so many incumbents re-elected (95+%) and so many races non-competitive (including the Presidential race in most states)? 

And was the Dems gaining in the House while Trump won also a "statistical inevitability"? Was the Democrats holding Congress for 60 years a "statistical inevitability"?

Does she think that if the voting population of a county votes 49% Republican and 45% Democrat then those are the odds they will win?  Like a ball pit is filled with 49 red balls and 45 blue ones, and 6 white ones and whose ever ball is picked that party wins?

[BananaBlast]

Also, why did SilentPanda just post an entire catalogue of racist ads?

What is wrong with this dude

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/funko-pop-maker-admits-it-might-not-survive-another-year-as-sales-crash.1347961/

Can someone please check on Jeff?!?