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(11-08-2025, 11:19 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote:

There appears to be an attempt at revisionist history, trying to argue that it was center Dems who pushed identity politics and not the crazies from the DSA


Of course they're trying to blame dems for identity politics now. Of fucking course. Its always them. They're the fucking poison that refuse to go away. Just crawl out once they finally manage to win something and try to rewrite history. Yes, they're not the crazy part, it was always the dems right?

As if these assholes did not spend so many years trash-talking Obama when he spoke against cancel culture and all that woke shit. 

Urgh. I hate them so much. It takes so much for me not to root for Zohran to fail so they can fuck off again. 

But they never change; they will turn against him soon when reality sets in.
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(11-08-2025, 08:55 PM)Alpacx wrote:

This type of post, the “well, actually [popular old media] is the same as Dragon Age 4”, should signal that people don’t actually mind any of it. I get the guy is deliberately dishonest, but I don’t understand the endgame to this smug obtuseness when there’s a dwindling tolerance for it.
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This is a classic case of, good first part, then of course they have to inject all that gay nonsense to make some woke point. (i really hate using that word).
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(11-09-2025, 04:44 AM)Polident wrote: This type of post, the “well, actually [popular old media] is the same as Dragon Age 4”, should signal that people don’t actually mind any of it. I get the guy is deliberately dishonest, but I don’t understand the endgame to this smug obtuseness when there’s a dwindling tolerance for it.

it also feels like a half-hearted attempt to claim ownership over something they know they can't have and don't really want anyway, they're applying a thought process that works on themselves but doesn't work on normal people, i.e. it's projection

"oh you like this game? but I, your enemy, like this game too for its progressive elements, that means you aren't allowed to like it" Smug 

but as for FF7 being "woke?"
  • literally everyone likes seeing shitty evil corporations get taken down a peg, that's not a woke thing
  • FF7's planet is dying in a more tangible, active, visible way, with a literal magical force that's being drained, and can easily be justified as "just fantasy"
  • Barret doesn't lead shit, he's a loudmouth jackass who makes bad ineffectual decisions based on emotion, he cedes leadership to Cloud immediately and is the party comic relief and speaks in what Japan thinks is AAVE, don't pretend you actually approve of this
  • also the only black guy is the one who uses guns? hooray progressive?
  • Tifa has gigantic bouncing breasts in the cutscenes and to this day is one of the most porned video game characters ever
  • both Tifa and Aeris have multiple "damsel" moments, Tifa goes all to pieces over the fact that Cloud "came back" for her after his childhood promise, Cloud cross-dresses specifically to rescue poor helpless Tifa, they climb Shinra tower specifically to rescue Aeris, and there are plenty of other story beats where the girls are in trouble and need the guys to save them
  • Tifa also has a whole minigame dedicated to getting into a bitchy catty slap fight with Scarlet
  • makes light of gay people and gay stereotypes at several points (mob of sweaty men in the honey bee inn)
  • insensitive portrayal of native american cultures in cosmo canyon
  • Cid is in an incredibly abusive relationship with Shera
  • game unrealistically simplifies all conflicts as "just fight the big baddie and good will win" instead of telling people to vote

but above all, you just ask yourself "then why do people like this, but they don't like that?" why do people like saints row 1-3 and not saints row reboot? why didn't people like forspoken? or dragon age 1 vs 4? there might not even be a specific answer, often there's just a vibe and you can tell "this game was made by people passionate about telling a good story, instead of people passionate about pushing a narrative"
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(11-09-2025, 06:21 AM)Uncle wrote: but above all, you just ask yourself "then why do people like this, but they don't like that?" why do people like saints row 1-3 and not saints row reboot? why didn't people like forspoken? or dragon age 1 vs 4? there might not even be a specific answer,
Fascists told you to hate one to pipeline you into their ideology. Social Justice Warrior 2
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(11-09-2025, 06:21 AM)Uncle wrote:
(11-09-2025, 04:44 AM)Polident wrote: This type of post, the “well, actually [popular old media] is the same as Dragon Age 4”, should signal that people don’t actually mind any of it. I get the guy is deliberately dishonest, but I don’t understand the endgame to this smug obtuseness when there’s a dwindling tolerance for it.

it also feels like a half-hearted attempt to claim ownership over something they know they can't have and don't really want anyway, they're applying a thought process that works on themselves but doesn't work on normal people, i.e. it's projection

"oh you like this game? but I, your enemy, like this game too for its progressive elements, that means you aren't allowed to like it" Smug 

but as for FF7 being "woke?"
  • literally everyone likes seeing shitty evil corporations get taken down a peg, that's not a woke thing
  • FF7's planet is dying in a more tangible, active, visible way, with a literal magical force that's being drained, and can easily be justified as "just fantasy"
  • Barret doesn't lead shit, he's a loudmouth jackass who makes bad ineffectual decisions based on emotion, he cedes leadership to Cloud immediately and is the party comic relief and speaks in what Japan thinks is AAVE, don't pretend you actually approve of this
  • also the only black guy is the one who uses guns? hooray progressive?
  • Tifa has gigantic bouncing breasts in the cutscenes and to this day is one of the most porned video game characters ever
  • both Tifa and Aeris have multiple "damsel" moments, Tifa goes all to pieces over the fact that Cloud "came back" for her after his childhood promise, Cloud cross-dresses specifically to rescue poor helpless Tifa, they climb Shinra tower specifically to rescue Aeris, and there are plenty of other story beats where the girls are in trouble and need the guys to save them
  • Tifa also has a whole minigame dedicated to getting into a bitchy catty slap fight with Scarlet
  • makes light of gay people and gay stereotypes at several points (mob of sweaty men in the honey bee inn)
  • insensitive portrayal of native american cultures in cosmo canyon
  • Cid is in an incredibly abusive relationship with Shera
  • game unrealistically simplifies all conflicts as "just fight the big baddie and good will win" instead of telling people to vote

but above all, you just ask yourself "then why do people like this, but they don't like that?" why do people like saints row 1-3 and not saints row reboot? why didn't people like forspoken? or dragon age 1 vs 4? there might not even be a specific answer, often there's just a vibe and you can tell "this game was made by people passionate about telling a good story, instead of people passionate about pushing a narrative"

Put it better than I did. They love to claim ownership over popular things. Oh actually, its always been this way. Did you not know that Final Fantasy X-2 is some lesbian/wlw love story where 3 queer(fuck me they have beaten this word too into the ground) girls on a fun trip around the world?? Seen this on twitter multiple times.

Or you know, its a game where 2 cousins, and a new friend, all treasure hunters go on a trip around the world looking for treasure and also to find out if one girls boyfriend is still alive.

Just watch, if that HP show is a hit, they wiill eventually try and claim ownership over it again.
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(11-09-2025, 07:35 AM)malfoyking wrote: Put it better than I did. They love to claim ownership over popular things. Oh actually, its always been this way. Did you not know that Final Fantasy X-2 is some lesbian/wlw love story where 3 queer(fuck me they have beaten this word too into the ground) girls on a fun trip around the world?? Seen this on twitter multiple times.

Or you know, its a game where 2 cousins, and a new friend, all treasure hunters go on a trip around the world looking for treasure and also to find out if one girls boyfriend is still alive.

Just watch, if that HP show is a hit, they wiill eventually try and claim ownership over it again.

https://gamecola.net/2015/01/disregard-canon-acquire-representation-samus-aran-is-a-transgirl/

Quote:Disregard Canon, Acquire Representation: Samus Aran is a Transgirl!

this article reads like sarcasm, but isn't, and I think is the source of the sentiment that led to this, later that year:

https://www.themarysue.com/metroids-samus-aran-transgender-woman/

Quote:Metroid’s Samus Aran is a Transgender Woman. Deal With It.

again, trying to make people mad and "break their toys," but it didn't work

you know what's somewhat interesting about this 2015 article co-authored by Brianna Wu?

Quote:No matter what fans say, the intent of the creator is the only opinion that really matters. When J.K. Rowling announced that Dumbledore from Harry Potter was gay, that was the end of the discussion. Some fans couldn’t accept or understand it, but her public statement was the only source that mattered. It’s an authorial acknowledgement that this character, like any, can realistically be queer or transgender without it having to define them.

we must respect rowling's authorial intent Preach
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(11-09-2025, 09:01 AM)Uncle wrote: https://gamecola.net/2015/01/disregard-canon-acquire-representation-samus-aran-is-a-transgirl/

Quote:Disregard Canon, Acquire Representation: Samus Aran is a Transgirl!

From the comments the author makes it clear they think that both cis women and trans women can look up to a fictional trans woman as an icon, but a fictional cis women isn't good enough for trans women. So just the usual sexism and misogyny from the trans lady community - that trans women are better women than cis (real) women. Their failure to successfully argue against the dude in the comments ends with "I am lead to believe that you’re arguing out of internalized transphobia", because "you're transphobic" is always the fallback for these creeps.

From another comment:

the author wrote:Calling this “Disregard Canon” is meant more for how characters are often read as straight and/or cisgender if there’s no direct statement saying they aren’t. People often claim that characters are canonically cisgender and/or until the narrative of the videogame goes out of its way to establish them as otherwise.

Characters aren't "often read" as "straight and/or cisgender", straight and "cis" (urgh) are simply the default because that's reality. People don't assume or claim a character is straight or cis because it isn't something that they think about at all, unless the text says otherwise.

If I remember the correctly, the reason Rowling saying that Dumbledore was gay was so contentious was because it was meaningless information that neither adds or subtracts from her original work. It's just a bit of virtue signalling (and I don't mean that in the negative way as it's typical used now.

I remember watching early David Tennant Dr Who, and there were often moments when, for example, a male character would mention "my husband", even though the characters sexuality wasn't relevant and never brought up again, and the husband never appeared and wasn't relevant to the story. It's just virtue signalling. "Look, we have a characters who just happens to be gay, isn't that progressive".

It's why early trans characters in games would immediately tell the player character that they were trans (and often dead-name themselves) because if they didn't do that there was no way you would know.
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(11-07-2025, 06:55 AM)benji wrote:

Is it tho?
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(11-09-2025, 01:26 PM)Eric Cartman wrote:
(11-07-2025, 06:55 AM)benji wrote:

Is it tho?

It's more like the last chopper out of 'nam moment.
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NYC hasn't been culturally relevant for decades. Anyone saying this has to be over the age of 40.
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(11-09-2025, 06:21 AM)Uncle wrote: but above all, you just ask yourself "then why do people like this, but they don't like that?" why do people like saints row 1-3 and not saints row reboot? why didn't people like forspoken? or dragon age 1 vs 4? there might not even be a specific answer, often there's just a vibe and you can tell "this game was made by people passionate about telling a good story, instead of people passionate about pushing a narrative"

Or what was even the point of all the Anita Sarkeesian videos if games were always woke anyway? Somehow the past already perfectly aligned with their political beliefs but at the same time remasters need to be censored because it's 2025. 

For some reason they can't just demand to change things, they simultaneously have to claim that it has always been this way.
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It's incoherent because it's all ad hoc reasoning to get the "win" that presents itself at each individual moment.

There's a psychoanalyzing media literacy type comment I could make about the relation of this behavior to their favorite media with characters who always have complete command of all situations and pull out whatever plot device or perfect statement is necessary at every moment. Though usually it's villains who have plans within plans within plans that always know you're going to look left at this exact moment and then ah, I knew that's what you were going to do because how could I not. You're so simple, unlike me, an endlessly complex unique mover of history, the true protagonist of our story. Smug  But wait, what's this, the hero actually knew that all along and that's exactly what they planned on them doing the entire time.

It's not an incoherent jumble of nonsense, you just aren't smart enough to see the master plan that's always been at work. You could save yourself this anxiety by just knowing what's correct always at all times or since that's probably not realistic for you... I suppose you could just listen to those who do know instead of JAQing off.
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"Worst she can say is no"
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That's still better than what happened to OnlyAfro. That guy moved to the US to propose to his vtuber discord girlfriend who promptly dumped his simp ass and forced him to self-deport back to his home country of Venezuela after living in the US for a few years (she allegedly said she would help get him naturalized). Very much a self-inflicted wound but damn, the lengths some dudes will go for egirl pussy is insane.
 
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"I like you as a person, but you are very ugly."

Hmmm, I wonder if this is what happened between Uzzy and Kyuji?
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(11-09-2025, 11:00 PM)simiansmarts wrote: That's still better than what happened to OnlyAfro. That guy moved to the US to propose to his vtuber discord girlfriend who promptly dumped his simp ass and forced him to self-deport back to his home country of Venezuela after living in the US for a few years (she allegedly said she would help get him naturalized). Very much a self-inflicted wound but damn, the lengths some dudes will go for egirl pussy is insane.
 
Whoo

The Lengths Some Dudes Will Go For Egirl Pussy:
The Jeff Marvel Story
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(11-09-2025, 11:10 PM)HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth wrote: "I like you as a person, but you are very ugly."

Hmmm, I wonder if this is what happened between Uzzy and Kyuji?
They likely said it simultaneously to each other using the exact same phrasing.
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(11-09-2025, 11:13 PM)HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth wrote:
(11-09-2025, 11:00 PM)simiansmarts wrote: That's still better than what happened to OnlyAfro. That guy moved to the US to propose to his vtuber discord girlfriend who promptly dumped his simp ass and forced him to self-deport back to his home country of Venezuela after living in the US for a few years (she allegedly said she would help get him naturalized). Very much a self-inflicted wound but damn, the lengths some dudes will go for egirl pussy is insane.
 
Whoo

The Lengths Some Dudes Will Go For Egirl Pussy:
The Jeff Marvel Story
Hey now! Jeff isn't only into egirls, he's very much open to getting his back blown out by Hasan Piker too!
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Sig Sauer is currently also mostly in news for making pistols that misfire at completely random moments, so look forward to accidentally shooting yourself with a gun that says "Freedom"

https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/1jz1xu6/holstered_sig_p320_legion_misfires_and_shoots/
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Thank you for your service!
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Ah yes, that famed investigative journalist, known for their rigor and commitment to absolute truth:
“a lady on tiktok”
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there seems to be a lot of misinformation going around about this lady

TMZ reported 9 churches helped out of 42

some random person is saying only the black churches offered to help her

tweet above says "a mosque" offered to help (to contrast with christian churches) but another source says it was a "buddhist temple"

others saying that megachurches refuse to help, but I saw another video saying that they say they have a program and can help but she has to join the program, they wouldn't literally just drop everything and go to her immediately so that counts as refusal

sure that's not as good a look, but...I mean if your baby was really starving, go there and sign some paperwork, it sounded like that option was on the table
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(11-11-2025, 12:01 AM)Uncle wrote: there seems to be a lot of misinformation going around about this lady

TMZ reported 9 churches helped out of 42

some random person is saying only the black churches offered to help her

tweet above says "a mosque" offered to help (to contrast with christian churches) but another source says it was a "buddhist temple"

others saying that megachurches refuse to help, but I saw another video saying that they say they have a program and can help but she has to join the program, they wouldn't literally just drop everything and go to her immediately so that counts as refusal

sure that's not as good a look, but...I mean if your baby was really starving, go there and sign some paperwork, it sounded like that option was on the table

Starting to think releasing your "experiment" results through Tiktok makes looking up detailed information cumbersome and easy to spread misinformation.
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