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[kaleidoscopium]

Yes the people who would pay for Twitter are losers, not a surprise and you can mock them for it. Acting like it's some big scandal is quite retarded lol

[Bootsthecat]

So turns out $800 for food only goes so far when you live with your parents, and poor Melody is back in the hole again. No phone now. We should help out maybe?

https://ko-fi.com/melodyshreds

[Daffy Duck]

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So turns out $800 for food only goes so far when you live with your parents, and poor Melody is back in the hole again. No phone now. We should help out maybe?

https://ko-fi.com/melodyshreds

The grift starts again

[Snoopy]

I would've chipped in if it was for some razors

[AldusMoneyPenny]

You sir win the Internet for today!
☑️

[Polident]

I would've chipped in if it was for some razors

Once I searched for long term hair removal options and some trans reddit forum was at the top. Seemingly the foremost experts online. In English, anyway. I can’t read [redacted] language forums. Long story short, they go for some ipl and laser treatments. Because evidently the ideal user for those treatments have dark hair and borderline translucent white skin.

[kaleidoscopium]

I hate these news posts. Like, not blaming OP specifically, and I'm glad the person got sentenced seemingly appropriately, but man, there's no benefit to the mental health of most of us to read every sad, awful news story. Even if I choose to not read the full story, the title alone is bad enough.

Politics? Sure, that is relevant and we have some small power over political outcomes and news.

Random elderly person is randomly murdered? Just sad all around.

Sorry I'll stop thread whining now.

Thank you.

I wish Era had an exclusive Miserable Doom / Politics forum for depressing stories like this where there’s nothing more to say than, “Yeah man, that sure sucks.”

https://www.resetera.com/threads/woman-who-fatally-shoved-87-year-old-vocal-coach-to-the-ground-in-new-york-sentenced-to-8-1-2-years-in-prison.770690/

Just... don't click on it?

[Averon]

I guess it's time for another fake suicide post from Melody Shreds. How long will they allow her to grift the community before they ban her? These are the same people that completely bought into Keffals' grift, by the way, so probably shouldn't be too optimistic they'd get the hint any time soon.

[Nintex]

I signed up to lurk, and it does seem to push the blue check users on the for you page. Don’t know about political leanings or any of that. But their posts are about as lame as you’d expect. You know, people who’d say things like “you, sir, win the internet!” or blatant engagement farming like asking what people think about the new iPhone.

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[DocWager]

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I guess it's time for another fake suicide post from Melody Shreds. How long will they along her to grift the community before they ban her? These are the same people that completely bought into Keffals' grift, by the way, so probably shouldn't be too optimistic they'd get the hint any time soon.

“Always believe trans-women”

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/woman-who-fatally-shoved-87-year-old-vocal-coach-to-the-ground-in-new-york-sentenced-to-8-1-2-years-in-prison.770690/

Just... don't click on it?

I saw this url and thought what if this was a trans woman, but just written "woman," because trans women are women

what if all era threads concerning trans women just said "women," how quickly would they get uncomfortable and demand the distinction

[kaleidoscopium]

Ignoring any of the actual words or their meaning because they're actually irrelevant to this point yes, the specific words are absolutely chosen to appeal to a certain demographic of people who are exactly what you suggest.

The words are bollocks too of course but these are very specific bollocks choices.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-91#post-112925417



classic transphobia

[kaleidoscopium]

Worthy of a different post,
https://www.resetera.com/threads/elon-musk-tw%F0%9D%95%8Ftt%F0%9D%95%8Fr-dr%F0%9D%95%8Fm%F0%9D%95%8F-%F0%9D%95%8Ft-let%E2%80%99s-keep-it-here-parody-%F0%9F%94%B5-official-%EA%95%A4.649272/page-941#post-112922309

It became clear early on that the real reason why people aren't leaving Twitter, is because people aren't leaving Twitter. And people aren't leaving Twitter because they're still gaining more than they are losing. For many it apparently takes quite a bit for that balance to shift.

Some may have had an understandable reason for remaining, whether they've had to remain due to corporate policy, are compelled to remain through their followers constituting their livelihood, or because otherwise their support network would crumble.

Regardless of the individual situation, people have now had a year to come up with an exit strategy, and Twitter has predictably continued getting worse through that year. And as always, it's only going to continue getting worse. My level of sympathy for people in situations where they have an understandable reason for remaining is increasingly sliding towards oblivion. And for those who opt to remain for other reasons, such as "But it would be different for me to find game deals!", oblivion used to always be the state of it, is now completely selfish and inexcusably enabling.

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, basically meaning those living in a capitalist society (particularly those with lower capital) aren't to blame for the ills and injustices it may impose on them, that the ultimate responsibility lies with the perpetrator and those in a strong position to enact change. And any one individual can't be perfect in their response to any and all injustices (which I think means we're all hypocrites, so don't let that prevent you from sometimes doing something ethical.)

But none of this is an excuse that justifies disengaging. It's not a perpetual "get out of responsibility and guilt" free card. It is not moral permission or justification for those with the means to act, to sit idly by. I'm starting to feel overdramatically cliche now. All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. We must rise up against the tyranny of evil men! We will not go quietly into the night! We will live on! We're going to BlueSkyHive! Tonight we celebrate our #RendAndEndX day!

We're not talking about risking your life in a fighter jet here people, but leaving a social media platform. Just leave already for fuck's sake.

[Taco Bell Tower]

I hate these news posts. Like, not blaming OP specifically, and I'm glad the person got sentenced seemingly appropriately, but man, there's no benefit to the mental health of most of us to read every sad, awful news story. Even if I choose to not read the full story, the title alone is bad enough.

Politics? Sure, that is relevant and we have some small power over political outcomes and news.

Random elderly person is randomly murdered? Just sad all around.

Sorry I'll stop thread whining now.

Thank you.

I wish Era had an exclusive Miserable Doom / Politics forum for depressing stories like this where there’s nothing more to say than, “Yeah man, that sure sucks.”

https://www.resetera.com/threads/woman-who-fatally-shoved-87-year-old-vocal-coach-to-the-ground-in-new-york-sentenced-to-8-1-2-years-in-prison.770690/

Just... don't click on it?

Closed by B-Dumbs

Just a reminder, we do have a rule about not just making threads about random horrible stuff

Sony Pony loudninja knew the rules but posted anyway.

[Venice]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-91#post-112920512

So, in the UK, there has been an announcement that transgender women will soon be banned from being treated in female hospital wards.

Personally, I feel this is very wrong and am against it. It's very demeaning to trans-women. I think that, despite the overall tone of TheBore, we are all largely very supportive of trans people. Trans people deserve their dignity.

It's just the online retards of ResetEra, Twitter and Reddit that we take issue with. Like Kyuuji:



I find this comment to be disgusting because Kyuuji is one of the biggest frauds on ResetEra. Despite the pretence of being educated and erudite, with thousands of long, eloquently worded posts, Kyuuji is the perfect definition of a slacktivist.

Instead of sitting at a goddamn computer all day, launching and maintaining hateful and vitriolic campaigns against Cyberpunk 2077, JK Rowling, and constantly trying to get people banned on an irrelevant forum, it's these kinds of policies you should be going out in the real world and actually protesting Kyuuji.

But no. Far easier to sit on your ass all day, typing worthless posts, being told how you wonderful you are and feeling good about yourself.

That's the extent of Kyuuji's activism.

One day, I hope Kyuuji realises that it's crazy people like them who have made things infinitely worse for the poor transfolk who live in the real world.

They caused this pushback by politicians with their constant attempts at cancellation.

Now innocents are reaping what the deranged have sowed.

[HaughtyFrank]

Maybe a stupid question, but what exactly is the idea behind a women's hospital ward? Is it focused entirely on female health issues like ovary cancer or giving birth? If that's the case I'm not really sure why trans women would need to go there?

[Venice]

Maybe a stupid question, but what exactly is the idea behind a women's hospital ward? Is it focused entirely on female health issues like ovary cancer or giving birth? If that's the case I'm not really sure why trans women would need to go there?

This is simplifying it heavily, but mainly:

1: Women have specific medical issues (like the ones you have mentioned) so you would have an overabundance of medical equipment oriented to female anatomy in designated hospital areas.

2: Safety, basically. You wouldn't want a mixed ward with, say for example, the beds of some hot, thin 20 year old blonde chick and a heavily muscled 40 year old dude side-by-side overnight. Not saying anything will happen, but there is always a risk and hospitals don't want to get sued. Better to keep them segregated.

[Bootsthecat]

Maybe a stupid question, but what exactly is the idea behind a women's hospital ward? Is it focused entirely on female health issues like ovary cancer or giving birth? If that's the case I'm not really sure why trans women would need to go there?

This is simplifying it heavily, but mainly:

1: Women have specific medical issues (like the ones you have mentioned) so you would have an overabundance of medical equipment oriented to female anatomy in designated hospital areas.

2: Safety, basically. You wouldn't want a mixed ward with, say for example, the beds of some hot, thin 20 year old blonde chick and a heavily muscled 40 year old dude side-by-side overnight. Not saying anything will happen, but there is always a risk and hospitals don't want to get sued. Better to keep them segregated.

Seems rational. So why are you very against it? To spare the feelings of mentally ill dudes that will be sad if they have to endure being in the company of others with cocks?

[malfoyking]

I definitely agree with female only wards as like some here have said, real women have real specific medical issues that only affect them. However i do think they should be a ward for trans women for their own issues. 

They shouldnt encroach on women's wards.

[Besticus Maximus]

The issue is with elderly and dementia patients really. Anyone who has spent significant time on a ward will understand that for good reasons it is better to separate out by sex for safety alone.

[Nintex]

Biological genders don't exist but they/them want these special healthcare treatments that were created just for this gender with these specific body issues.   

They need mental wards not hospital wards, these people are stone cold crazy. 

As a society we just need to admit that the trans are no different than most other internet subcultures.
And since we aren't building hospitals for Sonic fans I don't see why we would for this particular LARP or PornHub category.

[Venice]

Seems rational. So why are you very against it? To spare the feelings of mentally ill dudes that will be sad if they have to endure being in the company of others with cocks?

Because, while I fully agree that the online community of transpeople are demented, I don't at all believe they are representative of the real-world community transpeople.

There are many trans who are sick to death of how they are perceived because of the damage caused by the terminally online. The vast majority just want to live a quiet, peaceful life and mind their own business.

I also believe having healthcare is a basic human right and shouldn't be a political football, like it's being used here. Trans people in the UK make up a tiny, tiny minority. I don't see what's achieved by deliberately segregating them, other than demeaning and humiliating them (which is what Rishi Sunak and the Conservative Party are deliberately doing by appealing to right-wingers as they are on track to lose the next election). Just let them get their treatment and go on about their day.

They need mental wards not hospital wards, these people are stone cold crazy. 
As a society we just need to admit that the trans are no different than most other internet subcultures.

I partly agree with you, and partly don't.

I think for sure, large parts of the online trans community are just LARPing and need 'a place to belong' so they latch on to whatever they can as they are lonely and want to feel important.

But I also believe gender dysmorphia exists and real world trans shouldn't be judged and made to suffer by online nutcases.

A distinction needs to be made between real world trans, and the permanently online. One shouldn't be judged by the unaccountable and anonymous actions of the other. And everyone should be given dignity when it comes to healthcare.

[Bootsthecat]

If a schizophrenic that believes the TV is talking to them directly, considers that me not indulging them in their delusions is making them feel undignified while they're at the hospital, is that any different? Because possibly I'm misunderstanding. Are transwomen receiving substandard care as a result of this proposed change? Y?n?

[Nintex]

Final Fantasy: Gender Dysmorphia

Most doctors in NATO land swear to uphold The Hippocratic Oath so in 99.99% of the cases life saving healthcare will be provided even if you are a rapist crack fiend that shot 5 babies, crashed their car into a kitten shelter and hasn't showered in 3 months. And if you want something specific the 'regular' hospital doesn't provide there are plenty of private clinics willing to take your money to increase the size of your tits or remove a couple of ribs so you can blow yourself.
 
What is however not included in the standard life subscription package is tax payer and insurance money funding your LARP and that is what these clowns want.

[Uncle]

I definitely agree with female only wards as like some here have said, real women have real specific medical issues that only affect them. However i do think they should be a ward for trans women for their own issues. 
They shouldnt encroach on women's wards.

it's the old puzzle, isn't it?



trans women placed with women might make the women uncomfortable

(and tbh it seems like there is a higher rate of creeper/sex offender behavior from trans women toward women, wanting to be placed in women's prisons for...reasons etc.)

but trans women placed with men might make the trans women uncomfortable, since it's not how they identify and men might be abusive/hateful toward them

the solution is to take the goose across and come back alone

The issue is with elderly and dementia patients really. Anyone who has spent significant time on a ward will understand that for good reasons it is better to separate out by sex for safety alone.

by the way I've heard that trans people with dementia can be incredibly depressing

elderly trans women suddenly frantic and scared, asking "where is my penis, what happened" and having to have it explained to them that they're trans and identify as a woman and got rid of it
 

[Boredfrom]

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What's changed about it for users to complain about? Why do none of the complainers ever articulate anything specific?

Blue Checks and verification system seems to be still a huge one and many still vocal about that one.  Not entirely in the technical side, but seems a pretty consistent one in (ironically) both Pre and Post Musk Twitter.

Also, personally, is kind of painful to use Twitter without log in and even I can see that Twitter sometimes it outright doesn’t work in certain days. I want to see someone tweets, like I was used to, without login in because I like to freely browse for information, something that Musk, self declared champion of free speech (when doesn’t embarrass him or affects his bottom line) seem unable to deliver because bots or servers going down or whatever.

Already stopped using Twitter years ago because a combination of personal reasons and how they fucked up timelines, so is not because big bad Elon Musk has a very public middle life crisis. But I still think that I have the right to ask: “Why Twitter feels worse than a decade ago?”.

but what's the problem with the blue check thing? initially people claimed that nobody would know if someone is a real verafied™ celeb who they say they are, and they spent a month throwing a shitfit and pretending to be elon (lol lol) and getting banned for it, time passes and now it doesn't matter and never mattered

when was the last time there was a genuine scandal like some rando pretended they were zelinskyy and said "we officially surrender" and it caused global chaos or something


and regarding what can be seen when not logged in, I put it at even odds that the old ownership would've implemented a similar system, with the excuse that data scraping is a huge threat to our future, and banned AI generated images on the site because "we stand with traditional artists against this existential threat" blah blah


era complained for years that twitter was a cesspool full of chuds and didn't ban enough people for saying naughty things, they were never happy with it but used it anyway out of momentum

I don't think it's gotten significantly better or worse in that sense

The problem is that was Elon the one doing it, hence why I blame him. 



And, like I said, the blue check thing is a problem that users complain and mock, whenever you agree with them or not.

[Besticus Maximus]

by the way I've heard that trans people with dementia can be incredibly depressing

elderly trans women suddenly frantic and scared, asking "where is my penis, what happened" and having to have it explained to them that they're trans and identify as a woman and got rid of it

More generally it's chaos. People climbing into each other's beds at night, abusing the staff (who btw are always on edge about an old one losing their marbles and kicking off). It's an easier time on a woman's ward for obvious reasons, because the safety considerations are different. 

This is probably one of those things that has passed some kind of sniff test workshop that they can sell as common sense. However they have the right of it in this instance because it's not left v right it's idealism vs safety.

[Uncle]

There are many trans who are sick to death of how they are perceived because of the damage caused by the terminally online. The vast majority just want to live a quiet, peaceful life and mind their own business.

I used to think this way, but I feel like I need to see hard evidence of this now

because supposedly they're a minority of a minority of people, a fraction of a percent, but there are so many of them online that it feels like we must be hearing the majority of all the people who identify that way

it's like the joke "how do you know if someone is vegan? don't worry, they'll tell you"


also, isn't it inherent to trans-ness that they want to be noticed? the reason you transition is so that others can recognize you as a woman, you desire to be seen and treated as your preferred gender, it fills you with euphoria and inflates your feminine prostate, you don't want to be totally ignored or live a neet life indoors

if you really wanted to live in peace quietly you'd recognize that to transition is inherently a public statement, and you'd never socially transition and just feel/act like a woman in private

[Venice]

If a schizophrenic that believes the TV is talking to them directly, considers that me not indulging them in their delusions is making them feel undignified while they're at the hospital, is that any different? Because possibly I'm misunderstanding. Are transwomen receiving substandard care as a result of this proposed change? Y?n?

Yes, that's exactly my point. You still treat people with dignity in all circumstances to help them with their issues.

A schizophrenic is still treated with dignity when visiting a Doctor. A Doctor will work with them through their issues. A gender dysmorphia patient should also always be treated with dignity.

I don't like Kyuuji, excelsiorf, ClickyCal or any of those other assholes on Era, but I still wouldn't want them to feel humiliated, embarrassed or demeaned when going to a Doctor or hospital.

All this will do achieve is prevent transpeople from seeking help when they are ill, isolating them even further, which can then lead down darker roads like suicide. And suicide is enough of an issue in society today as it is.

I used to think this way, but I feel like I need to see hard evidence of this now

because supposedly they're a minority of a minority of people, a fraction of a percent, but there are so many of them online that it feels like we must be hearing the majority of all the people who identify that way

it's like the joke "how do you know if someone is vegan? don't worry, they'll tell you"

I totally agree with you, and this is the real tragedy of today's online transactivists.

They've made people like yourself, and millions of others, who used to be very sympathetic to trans-causes, indifferent at best. Most of us have started to shrug our shoulders and tap on the next news article.

[HardcoreRetro]