Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[simiansmarts]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fortnite-has-seemingly-expanded-its-ai-usage-to-art-in-its-latest-season.1368688/#post-148295011 

Yeah, I think I'm good on Fortnite at this point. Especially considering a certain batch of content that's coming in the near future.

 
 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/suno-ai-ai-music-generator-settles-lawsuit-with-warner-music-by-signing-a-partnership-deal-and-buying-songkick.1367851/page-3#post-148291786

 User banned (3 days): Trolling over multiple posts

sorry when exactly was the cutoff when music stopped being good? just for future reference so i don't accidentally listen to anything that sucks

Limp Bizkit has long been an easy universal cutoff point for people with good taste.

   

Edit: Earlier in the thread he said "the last twenty years" so I interpreted this post as meaning everything after Limp Bizkit.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/suno-ai-ai-music-generator-settles-lawsuit-with-warner-music-by-signing-a-partnership-deal-and-buying-songkick.1367851/page-2#post-148275148

The same argument can be made for most music made in the past 20 years. Well for those of us with good taste anyway.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fortnite-has-seemingly-expanded-its-ai-usage-to-art-in-its-latest-season.1368688/#post-148295011 

Yeah, I think I'm good on Fortnite at this point. Especially considering a certain batch of content that's coming in the near future.

 
 

Known Fortnite cockgobblers Jawmuncher and Jeff nowhere to be seen. Curious

Edit:

I wasn't ready for how terrible the Banana Fish dub actually is.

AI is a blight on everything it touches.

[simiansmarts]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/digital-foundry-tomb-raider-definitive-edition-switch-1-switch-2-review-big-downgrades-vs-ps3-ps4.1365391/page-2#post-148165288

 User banned (2 weeks): Ableist rhetoric

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

I'm retarted?

Well, if you can't even spell retarded... 

I wonder if you’d get banned for posting this or the MF Doom track that sampled it
 

[BIONIC]

The entirety of Dispatch episode 6 is one of my favorite moments in gaming ever.

It and this game are going to stick with me for a long time.

And obviously, @geoffkeighley is going to invite Bershy to perform "Radio" at @thegameawards... right?

But Jeff, I thought Doritos Pope was now persona non grata for dismissing game dev concerns?

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-unsettling-horror-game-horses-banned-from-steam-leaving-studio-with-high-risk-of-closure.1364461/page-7#post-148149451

 User banned (permanent): Downplaying the sexualization of minors

I'm responding to your post dismissing CSAM concerns by saying fictional depictions aren't considered CSAM. The law says it doesn't matter if the children aren't real and video games are not exempt. It doesn't matter if it's CGI or cartoon. It's still illegal.

Yes there is a way out for something with "serious value" but according to you it's just a "fucking video game".

Either way it's not hard to see why Valve wouldn't be interested in putting themselves in a position where they have to defend their decision to distribute this content and explain to the courts the serious value they see in a child riding a naked adult crawling on all fours with an animal mask.

The post I was responding to made the assertion that regardless of context "it doesn't change the fact that the material depicted CSAM". Which is, quite frankly, a load of bullshit. As the very law you quoted said, context does matter and I would absolutely argue that that it did not depict CSAM, even before it was changed. My "its just a fucking video game" reaction was due to the fact that the website they quoted was talking about very real child abuse where there is no room for this kind of interpretation or context.

Valve being unwilling to allow this content on their platform while allowing anime games that depict rape where all the characters look exactly the same age as a generic middle-school anime protag just because the devs claim all the characters are over 18 is ridiculous.

It is also ridiculous to not allow them to resubmit the game after the content was changed, this is an established developer, Valve have no reason to believe they are going to go behind their backs after launch and release a patch that changes the content back. Even the developers agreed that changing the characters depiction to an older woman fitted the scene better in the end: "The scene is not sexual in any way, but it is possible that the juxtaposition is what triggered the flag. We have since changed the character in the scene to be a twenty-something woman, both to avoid the juxtaposition and more importantly because the dialogue delivered in that scene, which deals with the societal structure in the world of Horses, works much better when delivered by an older character"

Another pedo bites the dust
Azaan60

User Banned (Permanent) - History of Hostility & Antagonism,

chocobalt

If a child is being depicted in a sexually explicit context or environment, it is illegal in those countries. I don't know if this game would constitute that, as I haven't seen the scene they have altered

Azaan60

Going by the description of the scene by the dev there was no explicit sexual content. Nudity alone is not sexual. Trying to equate this to defending lolicon is ridiculous and a completely stupid comparison lol. Especially when its not even in the game anymore.

tonyhawkproskater2

Like user chocobalt said on the post right after yours, the legislation on what consist of CSAM differs between countries and regions, but there are countries where things such as drawings, animations, composite images (eg. deepfakes or photoshops) or video games depicting CSA can be considered CSAM and holding or distributing them can be criminal offence. Especially now with the rise of generative AI the legislation is moving to a more strict direction on what is considered CSAM.

Azaan60

CSAM is sexually explicit content involving a minor or content involving a minor designed to illicit arousal. Again nudity alone is not sexually explicit content. If you're familiar with CSAM then you should know this. Otherwise communal showers, locker rooms, nude beaches and bath houses would be illegal.

The website you linked isn't a legal source, it's an advocacy page, it doesn't contain any official legal definitions and is obviously referring to real world abuse. Completely unrelated to works of fiction. I don't even know why you linked that page.
Even then it's referring to showing genitalia for sexual/arousal purposes which doesn't fit the context of the game.

tonyhawkproskater2

can be considered child sexual abuse material, regardless of the context.

Azaan60

This is blatantly incorrect.

You'd also know that intent and context is taken into account when it comes to creative works. Hence why books such as Lolita are allowed.

Creative works are allowed to explore sensitive or uncomfortable topics involving minors as long as the material does not sexualize the minor or present the content for sexual arousal. Since none of that applies to the scene in question, labeling it as CSAM is incorrect and doesn't match legal or industry definitions.

tonyhawkproskater2

Note: I work with teams that do work with CSAM prevention on country/EU/global level, so I have had to also study what CSAM consist of.

Azaan60

Well, I hope your teams aren't prioritizing controversial fiction over real child protection work.

Shoot

Wtf. There's no loophole here. Child pornography laws apply to all visual depictions.
18 U.S. Code § 1466A - Obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children

Azaan60

Did you even read what you just posted lmao. None of that applies to the scene that was in the game.

Just because you're upset by something doesn't make it illegal lol
Last edited: Wednesday at 8:13 AM

They seriously banned him for hostility and not for being a pedo 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/did-benedict-cumberbatch-buy-a-new-house.1368598/page-2#post-148295746

lol at this forum. Everyone's all "eat the rich" until it's an actor they like.

A guy who is already richer than fuckin god, starts shilling for trash-fire scum companies like World of Tanks and Amazon.

"man's gotta eat!!!"

Let's turn this up a bit too, I love a good flame broil


Benedict Cumberbatch is a white man who directly derives form a slave owning lineage. His family obtained their wealth off the blood, labor, and exploitation of the African Peoples and that same wealth was used to launch his acting platform that all these people idolize over

He admitted this but his family has tried to obfuscate their connection and not only that,  has not done any sort of actions regarding reparations and restitution for such history. His family went "under investigation" for this but nothing resulted of fact.

When slavery was ended, HIS family was paid out around 6 million for losses. Africans ….. nothing

Meanwhile he tries to play cover with choice quotes like

"I mean, it's not as if I'm making a profit from the suffering — it's not like it's Nazi money."

[According to The Daily Mail, Cumberbatch viewed the role in "Amazing Grace" as a "sort of apology" for his family's role in the slave trade.] Him getting paid to film a movie is an apology for his families slave trade!!! Didn't donate shit!!!

While he took roles as oppressors in slave films getting paycheck!!!!





So many progressive*/liberal* whites just full of yap, tryna play pretend in the mirror that they are good people. It's sick stuff. While they fucking complain about "gotchas" for holding people accountable

Here's another gotcha

Benedict fucking Cumberbatch and his fucking family need to pay what they fucking owe!


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-04/benedict-cumberbatch-slavery-reparations/101822368

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2023-01-03/benedict-cumberbatch-slavery-reparations-barbados

https://www.businessinsider.com/benedict-cumberbatch-family-faces-slave-reparations-pressure-telegraph-2022-12

[Alpacx]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/eurogamer-gives-arc-raiders-2-5-dinged-for-use-of-ai-generated-voices.1349200/page-17#post-147515413

 User Banned (Permanently): Inflammatory Commentary; Long History of the Same

I mean I don't care as in I never base my purchase decision on reviews or even factor them in. I play games that interest me and put my money towards games I like.

Plus, nowadays, I value the opinions of real players who are not on a strict deadline trying to review a game over the mainstream outlets who may or may not have an agenda against different stuff.

Good ban. I only trust video game reviews from the bepenised Wired sex toy reviewer.

[Mask]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-reminder-thanksgiving-celebrates-a-myth-of-colonialism-and-white-proprietorship-of-the-u-s.1365442/page-6#post-148203331

 User Banned (2 weeks): white fragility

I feel like I'm being attacked simply because I make this thread to try to help raise awareness of the actual history of Thanksgiving every year.

You're being attacked because your first line is accusatory, intentionally crafted to make your readers feel bad for sitting down to dinner with their family on a day approximately zero point zero percent of them do any celebration of the history of white supremacy and colonial genocide in this country, and then you also didn't include any actual action items in your post to help remedy the problem you're bringing up. It reads just like Protestant morality. You are damned because of what you are and the evil your ancestors bore, and no, there's not really anything you can do it about it, I just want to make sure you spend your holiday with your family thinking about historical genocide.

If you literally just kept the entire post and removed the initial "celebrating it is problematic" as your opening statement, moved it to the end, and also added ways we could contribute to Native American causes, 95% of the pushback would disappear. But honestly, based on the exact same conversations we had in the exact same thread last year, I think you know that.

Called out Era as a whole nice and succinctly and got shot as expected.

[books]

Pedophilia is just another letter in Ree's(and only Ree's) queer spectrum.

[Potato]

It's interesting that ree knows all the laws around cp, but also all the loopholes

There's people around here that do too mate.

[Potato]

Edit:

I wasn't ready for how terrible the Banana Fish dub actually is.

AI is a blight on everything it touches.

That's AI? I thought it was just standard trash anime shit.

[Potato]

The entirety of Dispatch episode 6 is one of my favorite moments in gaming ever.

It and this game are going to stick with me for a long time.

And obviously, @geoffkeighley is going to invite Bershy to perform "Radio" at @thegameawards... right?

But Jeff, I thought Doritos Pope was now persona non grata for dismissing game dev concerns?

It's it mainstream commercialised slop? 

Yes?

JeffCU will be all over it while decrying the horrors of capitalism.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/did-benedict-cumberbatch-buy-a-new-house.1368598/page-2#post-148295746

lol at this forum. Everyone's all "eat the rich" until it's an actor they like.

A guy who is already richer than fuckin god, starts shilling for trash-fire scum companies like World of Tanks and Amazon.

"man's gotta eat!!!"

Let's turn this up a bit too, I love a good flame broil


Benedict Cumberbatch is a white man who directly derives form a slave owning lineage. His family obtained their wealth off the blood, labor, and exploitation of the African Peoples and that same wealth was used to launch his acting platform that all these people idolize over

He admitted this but his family has tried to obfuscate their connection and not only that,  has not done any sort of actions regarding reparations and restitution for such history. His family went "under investigation" for this but nothing resulted of fact.

When slavery was ended, HIS family was paid out around 6 million for losses. Africans ….. nothing

Meanwhile he tries to play cover with choice quotes like

"I mean, it's not as if I'm making a profit from the suffering — it's not like it's Nazi money."

[According to The Daily Mail, Cumberbatch viewed the role in "Amazing Grace" as a "sort of apology" for his family's role in the slave trade.] Him getting paid to film a movie is an apology for his families slave trade!!! Didn't donate shit!!!

While he took roles as oppressors in slave films getting paycheck!!!!





So many progressive*/liberal* whites just full of yap, tryna play pretend in the mirror that they are good people. It's sick stuff. While they fucking complain about "gotchas" for holding people accountable

Here's another gotcha

Benedict fucking Cumberbatch and his fucking family need to pay what they fucking owe!


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-04/benedict-cumberbatch-slavery-reparations/101822368

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2023-01-03/benedict-cumberbatch-slavery-reparations-barbados

https://www.businessinsider.com/benedict-cumberbatch-family-faces-slave-reparations-pressure-telegraph-2022-12

Damnit, thought it was a NepNep post 

[Boredfrom]

Edit:

I wasn't ready for how terrible the Banana Fish dub actually is.

AI is a blight on everything it touches.

That's AI? I thought it was just standard trash anime shit.

Come on, man. Is Chaos Wars level tier.

[Jansen]

AI Derangement Syndrome got them shook

[Boredfrom]

AI Derangement Syndrome got them shook

Sonia genuinely bad and we all will lament how we meme it to acceptance like certain politician?

[Uncle]

That's AI? I thought it was just standard trash anime shit.

Come on, man. Is Chaos Wars level tier.

yes, that's exactly what he said

chaos wars was made by humans and somehow deemed acceptable

[Boredfrom]

That's AI? I thought it was just standard trash anime shit.

Come on, man. Is Chaos Wars level tier.

yes, that's exactly what he said

chaos wars was made by humans and somehow deemed acceptable

 

No dude, no. Everyone mocked the dub, the game is niche of the niche from a franchise that has no released a game in decades. Why the fuck are you saying is “acceptable”? 

Why you keep doing this? You are this desperate?

[Uncle]

yes! everyone mocked it as terrible! just like everyone is mocking this AI dub as terrible! they have many things in common

[Boredfrom]

Is not even standard anime shit because it was mocked when it was released.

[Potato]

yes! everyone mocked it as terrible! just like everyone is mocking this AI dub as terrible! they have many things in common

When you say "in common" do you mean the fans are all retarded paedos?

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/did-benedict-cumberbatch-buy-a-new-house.1368598/page-2#post-148295746

lol at this forum. Everyone's all "eat the rich" until it's an actor they like.

A guy who is already richer than fuckin god, starts shilling for trash-fire scum companies like World of Tanks and Amazon.

"man's gotta eat!!!"

Let's turn this up a bit too, I love a good flame broil


Benedict Cumberbatch is a white man who directly derives form a slave owning lineage. His family obtained their wealth off the blood, labor, and exploitation of the African Peoples and that same wealth was used to launch his acting platform that all these people idolize over

He admitted this but his family has tried to obfuscate their connection and not only that,  has not done any sort of actions regarding reparations and restitution for such history. His family went "under investigation" for this but nothing resulted of fact.

When slavery was ended, HIS family was paid out around 6 million for losses. Africans ….. nothing

Meanwhile he tries to play cover with choice quotes like

"I mean, it's not as if I'm making a profit from the suffering — it's not like it's Nazi money."

[According to The Daily Mail, Cumberbatch viewed the role in "Amazing Grace" as a "sort of apology" for his family's role in the slave trade.] Him getting paid to film a movie is an apology for his families slave trade!!! Didn't donate shit!!!

While he took roles as oppressors in slave films getting paycheck!!!!





So many progressive*/liberal* whites just full of yap, tryna play pretend in the mirror that they are good people. It's sick stuff. While they fucking complain about "gotchas" for holding people accountable

Here's another gotcha

Benedict fucking Cumberbatch and his fucking family need to pay what they fucking owe!


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-04/benedict-cumberbatch-slavery-reparations/101822368

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2023-01-03/benedict-cumberbatch-slavery-reparations-barbados

https://www.businessinsider.com/benedict-cumberbatch-family-faces-slave-reparations-pressure-telegraph-2022-12

I guess he solved the plight of Native Americans during Thanksgiving, so now he needs a new target.

[Jansen]

[boreform]

It's interesting that ree knows all the laws around cp, but also all the loopholes

There's people around here that do too mate.

[Boredfrom]

Why is that dude using a magnifying glass as a microphone?  

Ironically, the Bore is proving Resetera right:

You guys don't understand, EVERYONE eats shit these days"

- Guy with mouth full of shit

[Orange Juice Box]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/did-benedict-cumberbatch-buy-a-new-house.1368598/page-2#post-148295746

lol at this forum. Everyone's all "eat the rich" until it's an actor they like.

A guy who is already richer than fuckin god, starts shilling for trash-fire scum companies like World of Tanks and Amazon.

"man's gotta eat!!!"

Benedict Cumberbatch is a white man who directly derives form a slave owning lineage. His family obtained their wealth off the blood, labor, and exploitation of the African Peoples and that same wealth was used to launch his acting platform that all these people idolize over

[According to The Daily Mail, Cumberbatch viewed the role in "Amazing Grace" as a "sort of apology" for his family's role in the slave trade.] Him getting paid to film a movie is an apology for his families slave trade!!! Didn't donate shit!!!

While he took roles as oppressors in slave films getting paycheck!!!!





So many progressive*/liberal* whites just full of yap, tryna play pretend in the mirror that they are good people. It's sick stuff. While they fucking complain about "gotchas" for holding people accountable

Here's another gotcha

Daily Mail?  Ok, Chuddie.

[Jansen]

Boredfrom when did you realize you suffer from AI Derangement Syndrome? Remember you're in a safe space, you can be honest with us.

[simiansmarts]

Audio and image generation through machine learning is just something we gotta live with, you can't close Pandora's box.  
 
It's perfectly normal to to make the decision not to partake in it but to decry others using it as some satan worshippers of devil tech that will bring the end of human creation is silly.

[Boredfrom]

Boredfrom when did you realize you suffer from AI Derangement Syndrome? Remember you're in a safe space, you can be honest with us.

Why do you like eat shit? There is no need to eat shit just to “own ERA”. There is no need to pretend that dub is anything close to acceptable because Potato is not capable of admit doing a cheap joke (“animu shit huehue”), there is no reason to obfuscate his comment because Uncle is pissed that people still don’t accept 100% AI, there is no reason to use ProTrump memes as anything beyond self hate.