Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[simiansmarts]

WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOUR EYEBROWS??

[SLoWMoTIoN404au]

https://d-pad.life/threads/all-things-disney-general-hollywood-news-thread.10559/page-86#post-797360

d-pad.life forum owner has a meltdown



OUTRAGE TOURIST!

[filler]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-else-really-dislike-the-trope-where-they-make-oppressed-people-fighting-against-their-oppressors-becoming-worse-than-said-oppressors.1393417/#post-149410870


 



These are the stories they don't want you to read about, much less tell.

zero chance nep looks that good. probably just a black ben franklin lookin ahhhh

[books]

Sorry Greeks but I'm going to culturally appropriate a Souvlaki for lunch today. Please take up any issues with this with the Lebanese guy who runs the shop.

Lebanese are just budget Greeks.

More like self-hating Armenians.

[Boredfrom]

Yes and no. I agree it's an attempt to create an enemy who's not just twirling mustaches, but it's also odd that often their go to trope for making the bad guy seem sympathetic is pretty progressive almost meta view of the themes at play...just to conveniently throw it away when its time for plot.

Yeah, I wonder why.  

Isn’t stuff like Israel government prove in their minds that “the oppressed can become the oppressors”?

Or it doesn’t count because “the Jews”?

[Potato]

If anyone other than the lunatic man children run the site, there would be no site. Taking control as a normal person would make it no longer entertaining. Why deprive ourselves.

You let them run it as is, just introduce a little chaos

I would insist Nepenthe keeps her role, but that we have Moderation council above her to make a bunch of rules that she hates. See if her principles are stronger than her lust for power over the reeeetards

[BIONIC]

d-pad.life forum owner has a meltdown



OUTRAGE TOURIST!

Post hog

[filler]

this is who you're arguing with online 

[SLoWMoTIoN404au]

Demons and AI, as the D-Pad nutjob says.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chevy-chase-had-full-meltdown-on-community-set-after-n-word-incident-leaked-said-%E2%80%98my-career-is-ruined-%E2%80%99-witness-recalls.1393426/#post-149415637

Seems like.... he found out....

I mean...did he though?

Maybe not.... but he should!

He should.

But cancel culture never really existed to begin with so...:🤷:

😫

[Alpacx]

Like it's not that hard to have a story where the good guys are unequivocally good and have no flaws and defeat the bad guys and everyone lives happily ever after forever. But THEY don't want you to have any hope that this can be the case in the real world. 

Era ain't ready for this:

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Demons and AI, as the D-Pad nutjob says.

Link?

[Nintex]

Demons and AI, as the D-Pad nutjob says.

I would not be surprised if Elon Musk would attempt this.

DARK MAGA

DARK AI

Does it work? No it still predicts words just darker words.

[SLoWMoTIoN404au]

Demons and AI, as the D-Pad nutjob says.

Link?

https://d-pad.life/threads/ai-news-discussion-thread.9863/page-16#post-781959

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-else-really-dislike-the-trope-where-they-make-oppressed-people-fighting-against-their-oppressors-becoming-worse-than-said-oppressors.1393417/#post-149410870

It's an overdone trope but it's hard to imagine how you would write a lot of these sorts of stories otherwise

You write the oppressed as the unequivocal heroes and change the social dynamics of their situation at the end after they fight for change.

You know, show a revolution. It's been done before. But again there's no real interest by studios to do so even within fantastical worlds, much less real life stories.

 



These are the stories they don't want you to read about, much less tell.

[filler]

dork maga 

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-kind-of-just-despise-gamer-elitism.1393243/

Your posts are always the most based on this forum, TheEchosOfTheCyborg

That's pretty insulting coming from such a massive retard like doops.

[Boredfrom]

To be blunt, most gamer elitism to me is just insecurities, a need to feel superior compared to others. Simply put, so much of gamer elitism just feels like an excuse to exclude people, to try to push people and opinions out they don't like, to make an excuse to dismiss criticism or differing opinions on their favourite games. This is why I roll my eyes when I see gamers talk about "the casuals" because it's just elitism and ego and just fucking arbitrary… And misogynistic and homophobic.

  

Based and red pilled.

[D3RANG3D]

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I would usually say that goobergate was a mistake but they should have won and gate kept way harder...

[wsippel]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-else-really-dislike-the-trope-where-they-make-oppressed-people-fighting-against-their-oppressors-becoming-worse-than-said-oppressors.1393417/#post-149410870

It's an overdone trope but it's hard to imagine how you would write a lot of these sorts of stories otherwise

You write the oppressed as the unequivocal heroes and change the social dynamics of their situation at the end after they fight for change.

You know, show a revolution. It's been done before. But again there's no real interest by studios to do so even within fantastical worlds, much less real life stories.

 



These are the stories they don't want you to read about, much less tell.

She's constantly complaining, so it obviously means nagger.

[Averon]

ERA tankies just can't help themselves and must always act defensive for Stalin and Lenin:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-else-really-dislike-the-trope-where-they-make-oppressed-people-fighting-against-their-oppressors-becoming-worse-than-said-oppressors.1393417/page-3#post-149419630

This is why the trope doesn't really bother me.
Revolutions can certainly change the world for the better. And I'm not claiming that revolutions in general are not justifiable. But I personally struggle to think of a revolution that did not involve representatives of formerly oppressed groups committing some horrible acts in the process or for some time after a revolution.

Because that's not how we should judge revolutionary processes, especially the post-revolutionary period. Hell, there's an entire philosophical distinction between morality and moralism, the latter being continuously employed when "attempting" (because most of the time it is done in bad faith) to analyze historical events.


In other words, it's a false presentation of an arbitrary moral line that isn't connected to the material and historical reality of that revolutionary process. In reality, whenever we analyze any historical process, we consider the material conditions of that period; otherwise, we end up with massive moral inconsistencies.

It's a falsehood to analyze the period after, say, a slave uprising with the same moral scrutiny as the period before that uprising. It doesn't make sense. These are completely different material realities. No, the slaves will never "become the oppressors" unless one blatantly and purposefully ignores the specific historical context of the original oppressors. It's a false debate. It's an abstract, false, moral absolutism.

The Bolsheviks would be a good example. The monarchy sucked arse but how many people did Stalin kill?

It's actually a perfect example. First, it attempts to summarize the entire post-revolutionary period of Russia solely through the Stalinist period, which is absurd. Second, it willfully ignores the actual historical context (for example, the "political witch hunts," which were in fact heavily supported and carried out by popular bases) while dreaming up an idealist version of reality and purposefully ignoring several other historically relevant figures from that period.

This then results in massive moral inconsistencies. The Black Panthers, for example, were strongly supportive of the USSR. Would anyone considers the Black Panthers morally bankrupt? Or Malcom X? It's a slippery slope that can easily be deconstructed.

Stalin was worse but Lenin is also one of the worst people ever lived. None of those people are good

Lenin developed the theoretical anti-imperialist framework that was responsible for the liberation of several african nations from european colonialism. Huey P. Newton literally linked the BPP's foundational program to Marxism-Leninism. Are we going to say that Newton was one of the worst people who ever lived?

This is why this is a silly debate lol

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-else-really-dislike-the-trope-where-they-make-oppressed-people-fighting-against-their-oppressors-becoming-worse-than-said-oppressors.1393417/page-3#post-149420266

Lenin his terror is responsible for hundreds of thousands of people being murdered. Stalin was worse but he could only do what he did thanks to Lenin. Both committed mass genocide

You still didn't answer my question. Do you consider Huey P. Newton, one of the biggest if not the biggest anti-racism figures of history, that not only openly praised Lenin's theoretical analysis, he literally founded the BPP within a Marxist-Leninist tradition, as a horrible human being who, apparently, defended mass genocide too?

[Uncle]

I demand that you expound upon your full opinion with regard to Huey P. Newton immediately

[BIONIC]

I demand that you expound upon your full opinion with regard to Huey P. Newton immediately

Their early work was a little too new wave for my taste. But when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-beat-metroid-other-m-over-the-weekend-and-honestly%E2%80%A6.1393423/page-2#post-149421622

I just... shake my head when people stick up for Other M. Did we play the same game?

There's a boss fight where Ridley holds Samus down by her lower body and shoulders and tries to stab her with his tail over and over, while Samus gets a POV of his naked body waist-up, very clearly meant to give the impression that Samus is being raped. That isn't even touching the rest of the story (turning Samus into a blubbering mess is truly the tip of the iceberg).

I can't respect a game that thoughtlessly throws around sexual assault in any capacity. The whole game is dripping in misogyny. It bothers me way too much to even start thinking about the gameplay (which was also bad)!

[DavidCroquet]

Their mastermind defense relies on the assumption that the Black Panthers represents some idealized manifestation of a wholly moral political enterprise that is absolutely beyond reproach. 

Like, what?

[Uncle]

I demand that you expound upon your full opinion with regard to Huey P. Newton immediately

Their early work was a little too new wave for my taste. But when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-beat-metroid-other-m-over-the-weekend-and-honestly%E2%80%A6.1393423/page-2#post-149421622

I just... shake my head when people stick up for Other M. Did we play the same game?

There's a boss fight where Ridley holds Samus down by her lower body and shoulders and tries to stab her with his tail over and over, while Samus gets a POV of his naked body waist-up, very clearly meant to give the impression that Samus is being raped. That isn't even touching the rest of the story (turning Samus into a blubbering mess is truly the tip of the iceberg).

I can't respect a game that thoughtlessly throws around sexual assault in any capacity. The whole game is dripping in misogyny. It bothers me way too much to even start thinking about the gameplay (which was also bad)!

That user's avatar:

[HaughtyFrank]

This reminds me of when Resident Evil 1 made all the zombies look like my childhood bully. Really messed up of Capcom and no one ever talks about it.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-beat-metroid-other-m-over-the-weekend-and-honestly%E2%80%A6.1393423/page-2#post-149421622

I just... shake my head when people stick up for Other M. Did we play the same game?

There's a boss fight where Ridley holds Samus down by her lower body and shoulders and tries to stab her with his tail over and over, while Samus gets a POV of his naked body waist-up, very clearly meant to give the impression that Samus is being raped. That isn't even touching the rest of the story (turning Samus into a blubbering mess is truly the tip of the iceberg).

I can't respect a game that thoughtlessly throws around sexual assault in any capacity. The whole game is dripping in misogyny. It bothers me way too much to even start thinking about the gameplay (which was also bad)!

That user's avatar:

You know why they keep saying shit like this? Because there is always two or three dudes taking it seriously and be accommodating while pretending they wouldn’t mock the shit out of any other user.

So I never got played Other M but I know there is something weird themes around that game (THEBABYTHEBABYTHRBABY) and I know Metroid is basically is basically inspired by Alien, so dunno about if there is sexual imagery like in the franchise they got inspired by. But I think this the first time someone outright said Ridley was “raping Samus” in that game.

[Kyon1988]

ERA tankies just can't help themselves and must always act defensive for Stalin and Lenin:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-else-really-dislike-the-trope-where-they-make-oppressed-people-fighting-against-their-oppressors-becoming-worse-than-said-oppressors.1393417/page-3#post-149419630

Because that's not how we should judge revolutionary processes, especially the post-revolutionary period. Hell, there's an entire philosophical distinction between morality and moralism, the latter being continuously employed when "attempting" (because most of the time it is done in bad faith) to analyze historical events.


In other words, it's a false presentation of an arbitrary moral line that isn't connected to the material and historical reality of that revolutionary process. In reality, whenever we analyze any historical process, we consider the material conditions of that period; otherwise, we end up with massive moral inconsistencies.

It's a falsehood to analyze the period after, say, a slave uprising with the same moral scrutiny as the period before that uprising. It doesn't make sense. These are completely different material realities. No, the slaves will never "become the oppressors" unless one blatantly and purposefully ignores the specific historical context of the original oppressors. It's a false debate. It's an abstract, false, moral absolutism.

It's actually a perfect example. First, it attempts to summarize the entire post-revolutionary period of Russia solely through the Stalinist period, which is absurd. Second, it willfully ignores the actual historical context (for example, the "political witch hunts," which were in fact heavily supported and carried out by popular bases) while dreaming up an idealist version of reality and purposefully ignoring several other historically relevant figures from that period.

This then results in massive moral inconsistencies. The Black Panthers, for example, were strongly supportive of the USSR. Would anyone considers the Black Panthers morally bankrupt? Or Malcom X? It's a slippery slope that can easily be deconstructed.

Lenin developed the theoretical anti-imperialist framework that was responsible for the liberation of several african nations from european colonialism. Huey P. Newton literally linked the BPP's foundational program to Marxism-Leninism. Are we going to say that Newton was one of the worst people who ever lived?

This is why this is a silly debate lol

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-else-really-dislike-the-trope-where-they-make-oppressed-people-fighting-against-their-oppressors-becoming-worse-than-said-oppressors.1393417/page-3#post-149420266

Lenin his terror is responsible for hundreds of thousands of people being murdered. Stalin was worse but he could only do what he did thanks to Lenin. Both committed mass genocide

You still didn't answer my question. Do you consider Huey P. Newton, one of the biggest if not the biggest anti-racism figures of history, that not only openly praised Lenin's theoretical analysis, he literally founded the BPP within a Marxist-Leninist tradition, as a horrible human being who, apparently, defended mass genocide too?

Someone got perma banned in that discussion meanwhile stanning for Lenin and Stalin is okay.