Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[filler]

I really don’t understand why trans people in sports has become this giant issue that outshines everything else. If you talk to people online you’d think it was the single most important issue of our times.

Culture war politics drive engagement even though the issues are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, that's pretty much it.

[Superstar]

Good enough for me.  Checks out.

Lmao. This shit is hilarious. Someone broke in and just stole documents and checking history? I honestly think dog ate my homework may play better.

[Orange Juice Box]

Why would you think the right-wing could potentially be right that "Somalis are running fake daycares to steal hundreds of millions/billions of dollars in fraud?"

Because it already happened?  Given the massive proven fraud in the overlapping food program, it could be unlikely that the childcare side remained 100% clean while the food side was 100% corrupt.  That the discrepancy between the building sizes and the sums of money billing the state seem like legitimate questions?  That when the federal Assistant Secretary of HHS called the Minnesota state director of child care services he said she "could not tell me with confidence" that the fraud wasn't happening or isolated?  That's how it could POTENTIALLY be right?  Because Somalis, like everyone else, are human beings that aren't made of magical fairy dust?  It's just annoying that Nepenthe will automatically defend and believe this sort of thing is unthinkable for anyone she perceives as the in-group, but always has the least charitable perception of her out-group like the ethno-narcissistic she is.

 I would expect some Black American folks in the mix. We make good music, and are also susceptible to capitalism. 🤷🏿‍♀️

But most people even on the left didn't take trans people seriously when we warned yall

They warned us that Trump was a bad choice?  Oh why didn't we'yall listen to yall?  Why didn't anyone but minorities speak up against Trump.  Instead he was universally loved by all liberals and the democrat establishment.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/disney-cast-member-injured-while-stopping-400-pound-boulder-from-rolling-into-audience-video-in-article.1395004/page-2#post-149523769

If it's made of rubber, it makes sense why it's 400 lbs. The more rubber, the heavier it is. Shit, a tire without a rim is heavy on its own

[Nintex]

Happy new year suckers and losers. I wish you all the very worst 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-survived-project-2025-and-so-did-you.1395124/page-2#post-149529355

I survived 2025.

I will probably lose my home and die next year due to this administration.

And no, I am not being hyperbolic. Tech has imploded, this administration has done nothing to stop it. And my health care costs are unsustainable, so I will not be able to afford the care I need to live.

So yea. Surviving this year is a small solace, since the clock is ticking down. Hug your loved ones, treasure your friends everyone.

Happy New Year.

[filler]

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

I really don’t understand why trans people in sports has become this giant issue that outshines everything else. If you talk to people online you’d think it was the single most important issue of our times.

the idea of men competing against women in sport used to be a big joke

Same with men calling themselves lesbians.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

It's just annoying that Nepenthe will automatically defend and believe this sort of thing is unthinkable for anyone she perceives as the in-group, but always has the least charitable perception of her out-group like the ethno-narcissistic she is.

To be fair, she is a massive racist. 

[simiansmarts]

Happy new year suckers and losers. I wish you all the very worst 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-mythology-and-stories-are-important-and-not-just-mere-fiction-to-be-dismissed-and-forgotten.1394833/

I've generally been keeping my lips sealed on the upcoming Nolan adaptation of The Odyssey, in part because I'm waiting to actually see the film before I make a judgement (and to be clear (though I doubt this will stop people who only read the thread title), this thread is NOT about historical accuracy or really about that film at all, do not derail this thread by turning it into one); but there has been something I've seen over and over again throughout 2025, both used to attack the movie and used it's defence for many reasons that has been bugging me, statements in the vein of, "The Odyssey is just fiction, not historical fact! It doesn't matter" 

This makes the inner lover of mythology and social history cry (and sadly a type of rhetoric I've seen throughout my life) because it's just a terrible and incorrect statement; one that completely ignores the importance mythology has on our understanding of history. How mythology and stories can tell us so much about how the people of the past, both on a societal and personal scale thought, believed and lived and how in many cases. Has helped preserve history from being lost and inspired people into the pursuit of history and knowledge. The importance stories and myth has on humanity as a species.

History is more then what people did, it's also about who they were, who they were as people, their desires, dreams, wants, flaws. Everyone of us matters, each one of our stories a part of the omnibus that is humanity; and every story lost to history is a tragedy, a story to never be heard again. Humanity is a species of storytellers, we tell stories everyday in some form, it's how we communicate, it's how we connect to others, it's our very foundations of a species and how we look at the world around us.

Using Greek Mythology since it's been the subject matter of my annoyance, to many Ancient Greeks, works like The Odyssey (along with the other works of the Epic Cycle as well as Hesiod's Theogony etc) were more then just fiction, to be like Homer, it was history, a shared cultural history, one that had been passed down by generation to generation of storytellers through oral tradition to help inform people about what being Greek meant, who they were, where they came from and what they had lost due to the Bronze Age Collapse, an insight into the lost history of their ancients of the Mycenaean civilization, one they could see the remains around them like we can of the Ancient Greeks today.

It can be easy to miss this because of how they are told today without the original cultural context but much of Greek Mythology takes place during what Hesiod and others called the "Heroic Age", the fourth in the five ages of man and considered the only age to be an improvement over what came before, and far better to the age that came after, the Iron Age (aka what would be contemporary to Hesiod). From the foolish Kings of the Bronze age being replaced by the founder Kings of the Heroic like Cadmus and Perseus, to the heroic exploits of Heracles and Jason, to the tragedy and loss of so many heroes in the age's downfall of the Trojan war and finally the heroes like Electra and Orestes who then were left to lay the foundations of the Iron Age. It can be easy to see what what was being told through these stories were a mythized version of the history of Mycenaean Greece, altered throughout telling from personal biases, propaganda and reinterpretation (it's honestly fascinating reading Ancient Roman historians views and opinions on Ancient Greek). Even in myths like the Maze and the Minotaur, you can see the attempt to understand history.

Even beyond that, what can also be forgotten is that many of these myth were more then simple stories, but they were also morality lessons, stories meant to teach, the Iliad for example is the story of Achilles and a small chapter during the Trojan war; but also a morality lesson in the dangers of wrath (it's even the first word of the poem). This is why it's frustrating besides the Iliad and the Odyssey to me that 6 of the 8 poems of the Epic Cycle (Cypria, Aethiopis, Little Iliad, Iliupersis, Nostoi and Telegony) are lost because while we know what happens in them from summaries, adaptations etc, we have lost and been robbed of understanding the original meanings, themes and interpretations of those stories. Same with every lost story. It's like simply reading a plot synopsis of a movie on Wikipedia compared to be able to watch the full film itself, sure you have an idea of the plot, but so much of what made they art special and unique, the intent behind it is lost.

One thing I find fascinating is looking through the history of stories and myths, how they've changed over the years through culture to culture, author to author and how each built on the other, how each authors add or changes based on their own biases and views. It can tells us so much about those authors and the culture that they lived in, the type of person the author was, the type of people they were, especially when we have different versions from the same time period where we can see differing views and opinions. It's depressingly common for people to treat cultures as unchanging monoliths (one of the reason why say, the inaccurate armour in films bothers some) when it reality, culture is always changing, opinions change and differ and through fiction and myths we can see that.

Which leads me to my last point, in many cases myths and fiction can often be the last place history exists and help inspire people into the pursuit of history and knowledge. It's because of many of these myths, from Greek, Abrahamic, Egyptian, Cainite etc we even know about many of these ancient locations (like we knew where Troy was for thousands of years yet never bothered to check because we assumed works like the Iliad were just fiction), ancient civilizations like the Minoans and Hittite people etc; the reason when even knew what, where or even who were looking for.

And even with that, fiction can simple inspire by existing, by introducing ideas to people. A good modern example of this is Jurassic Park, a book and film that inspired many into the pursuit of understanding prehistoric life whether through books or further education to become palaeontologists to find lost history themselves.

Everything I've said about Ancient Greek Mythology can be applied to every civilization throughout history. It's why I am such an advocate of the preservation of art, to make sure the art of today, whether film, game, paintings etc, not matter how small and trivial it can seem to us now, survives because it will inform and tell future historians and people about the people we were, both the good and the bad. It's one of the many reasons I fucking despise colonialism and cultural erasure, from the erasing of mythologies like Celtic, Slavic and Norse by Christianity; to the British, Spanish, French Empires etc destroying  and suppressing cultures and civilizations (while racistly acting like the natives didn't have any) throughout the world for the sake of greed. Why it pisses me off people dismiss the loss of art as not important BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT.

So no, mythology and stories are more then just "fiction that doesn't matter", they are much our history then anything else, the matter, they inform what we were, who we are and how we will be remembered.

Side note; Lilith, that was an OP that took a bitch to try to streamline and not be overly bloated

One thing I cut out originally that I didn't feel really fitted the OP was to point out that in several cases, what is fiction and myth and what is historical "fact" is often a lot more blurred then people think. That in many cases, what people state as fact is based on hearsay, gossip, exaggeration, stories or even straight up lies and propaganda.

This was something I got good realization back around the release of Gladiator 2 when I deep dived into researching Roman Emperors and just truly realized just how few of our sources about them can be considered truly reliable and trust worthy because so often what sources became popular were gossip, written by the Emperor's enemies in the sente or later Roman Historians working for future Emperors with clear agendas in favour of making the Emperors currently in charge (and paying them) look better in comparison; with Emperor's like Nero nearly impossible to get a true look of he truly was.

Like most people just assume Napoleon was short because that's what's repeated, we even named a complex after this despite the fact that was British propaganda. Women throughout history have often suffered from this often vilified or shamed Way more than their male counterparts like with Cleopatra. Wu Zetian; and Theodora and Marozia of the Pornocracy.

In the end, it's actually impossible to make a true history, every account is going to be different, but this is why it's important we preserve history (both fiction, accounts, documentation etc) as best as we can so we can have the most well-rounded view on History and not let lies and propaganda dictate history, something that is today thanks to GenAI making it much more harder to figure out the line between truth and fiction.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Got to keep working for the man or he can't afford new overalls and shark plushies.

His wife makes him throw out the old crusty ones.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Is gross how Nepenthe pretends to care about other minorities. I don’t think she cares about non AfricanAmerican black people.

You have it backwards.  She considers every black person on earth some part of global kin- group community no matter the difference in culture/history, whatever.  She thinks she Brazilian blacks would welcome her like they're part of one big family.

She isn’t, she likes to pretend this is the case but every time some black poster has an opinion not in line with Black Americans ones, she goes passive aggressive or mad.

She really hates when her fellow African Americans destroy her racist fantasy.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Good enough for me.  Checks out.

Lmao. This shit is hilarious. Someone broke in and just stole documents and checking history? I honestly think dog ate my homework may play better.

I'm very sorry to announce that all the evidence of my crimes have been stolen. Please send your thoughts and prayers during these trying times.

[Polident]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/disney-cast-member-injured-while-stopping-400-pound-boulder-from-rolling-into-audience-video-in-article.1395004/page-2#post-149523769

If it's made of rubber, it makes sense why it's 400 lbs. The more rubber, the heavier it is. Shit, a tire without a rim is heavy on its own

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

But most people even on the left didn't take trans people seriously when we warned yall

Because you are not serious people.

When you to continue to "warn us all" of things that aren't happening, it shouldn't be a surprise that eventually people stop taking you seriously.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-survived-project-2025-and-so-did-you.1395124/page-2#post-149529355

And no, I am not being hyperbolic.

he said, hyperbolicly.

[books]

And my health care costs are unsustainable, so I will not be able to afford the care I need to live.

Lemme guess. Overweight, diabeteez, self diagnosed depression, and the autism. Health care costs is a new graphics card and more lesbians in video games.

Ree should sell "I survived Project 2025" t-shirts. Where's the entrepreneurial spirit?

Is gross how Nepenthe pretends to care about other minorities. I don’t think she cares about non AfricanAmerican black people.

She doesn't which is why she banned a Haitian user for it long time ago.

Haitians? Ick.

[Boredfrom]

Echoes is not wrong about the importance of mythology but he goes into emotional bursts for stuff that most of us not. Example:

This is why it's frustrating besides the Iliad and the Odyssey to me that 6 of the 8 poems of the Epic Cycle (Cypria, Aethiopis, Little Iliad, Iliupersis, Nostoi and Telegony) are lost because while we know what happens in them from summaries, adaptations etc, we have lost and been robbed of understanding the original meanings, themes and interpretations of those stories.

 

Unless you are a historian and an investigator… you shouldn’t free that strongly about it. I hope you were this passionate when is about putting your life together, my dude. 

BTW, is probably the most coherent stuff Echoes has written in that forum. Congrats?

[HaughtyFrank]

But most people even on the left didn't take trans people seriously when we warned yall

Because you are not serious people.

When you to continue to "warn us all" of things that aren't happening, it shouldn't be a surprise that eventually people stop taking you seriously.

In reality they also skipped the warning part and claimed there was a trans genocide right under Biden and that the concentration camps were basically the only step left

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-new-science-of-alcohol-why-recent-guidance-says-more-than-2-drinks-per-week-is-risky.1394617/page-3#post-149491528

I think I just misunderstood what you were saying because calling alcohol poison and shaming people for drinking aren't the same thing imo. there's several people in this thread trying to twist alcohol as not that bad because grandpa lived to 100 and our ancestors drank so evolution protects us while ignoring mountains of well established science that it's massively problematic.

And many more posts basically saying "not gonna stop lol". I find that far more problematic tbh.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cell-cultivated-pork-fat-meat-replacement.1394884/#post-149530900

red meat is a group 2 carcinogen meaning it's associated with cancer risk, processed meat is a group 1 carcinogen meaning they can prove it increases cancer risk, the bar is very low.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/goodbye-to-this-wretched-year-and-may-2026-be-better.1395301/#post-149534953

This time last year I thought I was in a happy relationship. I was so so wrong and didn't find out until weeks later. Spent the beginning of this year heartbroken, broke, and facing homelessness. 2025 can die in a ditch.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/goodbye-to-this-wretched-year-and-may-2026-be-better.1395301/#post-149535661

2025 was the worst year of my life. Unemployed for most of the year, health issues, my SO of 18 years left me, not a phone call, not in person, she just texted me and said I'm leaving you. After all we went thru, all the sacrifices, just a text, nothing more. Fuck the 2020s, fucking shitt, worthless, pathetic decade. FUCK 2025!!!!!

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-mythology-and-stories-are-important-and-not-just-mere-fiction-to-be-dismissed-and-forgotten.1394833/

I've generally been keeping my lips sealed on the upcoming Nolan adaptation of The Odyssey, in part because I'm waiting to actually see the film before I make a judgement (and to be clear (though I doubt this will stop people who only read the thread title), this thread is NOT about historical accuracy or really about that film at all, do not derail this thread by turning it into one); but there has been something I've seen over and over again throughout 2025, both used to attack the movie and used it's defence for many reasons that has been bugging me, statements in the vein of, "The Odyssey is just fiction, not historical fact! It doesn't matter" 

This makes the inner lover of mythology and social history cry (and sadly a type of rhetoric I've seen throughout my life) because it's just a terrible and incorrect statement; one that completely ignores the importance mythology has on our understanding of history. How mythology and stories can tell us so much about how the people of the past, both on a societal and personal scale thought, believed and lived and how in many cases. Has helped preserve history from being lost and inspired people into the pursuit of history and knowledge. The importance stories and myth has on humanity as a species.

History is more then what people did, it's also about who they were, who they were as people, their desires, dreams, wants, flaws. Everyone of us matters, each one of our stories a part of the omnibus that is humanity; and every story lost to history is a tragedy, a story to never be heard again. Humanity is a species of storytellers, we tell stories everyday in some form, it's how we communicate, it's how we connect to others, it's our very foundations of a species and how we look at the world around us.

Using Greek Mythology since it's been the subject matter of my annoyance, to many Ancient Greeks, works like The Odyssey (along with the other works of the Epic Cycle as well as Hesiod's Theogony etc) were more then just fiction, to be like Homer, it was history, a shared cultural history, one that had been passed down by generation to generation of storytellers through oral tradition to help inform people about what being Greek meant, who they were, where they came from and what they had lost due to the Bronze Age Collapse, an insight into the lost history of their ancients of the Mycenaean civilization, one they could see the remains around them like we can of the Ancient Greeks today.

It can be easy to miss this because of how they are told today without the original cultural context but much of Greek Mythology takes place during what Hesiod and others called the "Heroic Age", the fourth in the five ages of man and considered the only age to be an improvement over what came before, and far better to the age that came after, the Iron Age (aka what would be contemporary to Hesiod). From the foolish Kings of the Bronze age being replaced by the founder Kings of the Heroic like Cadmus and Perseus, to the heroic exploits of Heracles and Jason, to the tragedy and loss of so many heroes in the age's downfall of the Trojan war and finally the heroes like Electra and Orestes who then were left to lay the foundations of the Iron Age. It can be easy to see what what was being told through these stories were a mythized version of the history of Mycenaean Greece, altered throughout telling from personal biases, propaganda and reinterpretation (it's honestly fascinating reading Ancient Roman historians views and opinions on Ancient Greek). Even in myths like the Maze and the Minotaur, you can see the attempt to understand history.

Even beyond that, what can also be forgotten is that many of these myth were more then simple stories, but they were also morality lessons, stories meant to teach, the Iliad for example is the story of Achilles and a small chapter during the Trojan war; but also a morality lesson in the dangers of wrath (it's even the first word of the poem). This is why it's frustrating besides the Iliad and the Odyssey to me that 6 of the 8 poems of the Epic Cycle (Cypria, Aethiopis, Little Iliad, Iliupersis, Nostoi and Telegony) are lost because while we know what happens in them from summaries, adaptations etc, we have lost and been robbed of understanding the original meanings, themes and interpretations of those stories. Same with every lost story. It's like simply reading a plot synopsis of a movie on Wikipedia compared to be able to watch the full film itself, sure you have an idea of the plot, but so much of what made they art special and unique, the intent behind it is lost.

One thing I find fascinating is looking through the history of stories and myths, how they've changed over the years through culture to culture, author to author and how each built on the other, how each authors add or changes based on their own biases and views. It can tells us so much about those authors and the culture that they lived in, the type of person the author was, the type of people they were, especially when we have different versions from the same time period where we can see differing views and opinions. It's depressingly common for people to treat cultures as unchanging monoliths (one of the reason why say, the inaccurate armour in films bothers some) when it reality, culture is always changing, opinions change and differ and through fiction and myths we can see that.

Which leads me to my last point, in many cases myths and fiction can often be the last place history exists and help inspire people into the pursuit of history and knowledge. It's because of many of these myths, from Greek, Abrahamic, Egyptian, Cainite etc we even know about many of these ancient locations (like we knew where Troy was for thousands of years yet never bothered to check because we assumed works like the Iliad were just fiction), ancient civilizations like the Minoans and Hittite people etc; the reason when even knew what, where or even who were looking for.

And even with that, fiction can simple inspire by existing, by introducing ideas to people. A good modern example of this is Jurassic Park, a book and film that inspired many into the pursuit of understanding prehistoric life whether through books or further education to become palaeontologists to find lost history themselves.

Everything I've said about Ancient Greek Mythology can be applied to every civilization throughout history. It's why I am such an advocate of the preservation of art, to make sure the art of today, whether film, game, paintings etc, not matter how small and trivial it can seem to us now, survives because it will inform and tell future historians and people about the people we were, both the good and the bad. It's one of the many reasons I fucking despise colonialism and cultural erasure, from the erasing of mythologies like Celtic, Slavic and Norse by Christianity; to the British, Spanish, French Empires etc destroying  and suppressing cultures and civilizations (while racistly acting like the natives didn't have any) throughout the world for the sake of greed. Why it pisses me off people dismiss the loss of art as not important BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT.

So no, mythology and stories are more then just "fiction that doesn't matter", they are much our history then anything else, the matter, they inform what we were, who we are and how we will be remembered.

Side note; Lilith, that was an OP that took a bitch to try to streamline and not be overly bloated

One thing I cut out originally that I didn't feel really fitted the OP was to point out that in several cases, what is fiction and myth and what is historical "fact" is often a lot more blurred then people think. That in many cases, what people state as fact is based on hearsay, gossip, exaggeration, stories or even straight up lies and propaganda.

This was something I got good realization back around the release of Gladiator 2 when I deep dived into researching Roman Emperors and just truly realized just how few of our sources about them can be considered truly reliable and trust worthy because so often what sources became popular were gossip, written by the Emperor's enemies in the sente or later Roman Historians working for future Emperors with clear agendas in favour of making the Emperors currently in charge (and paying them) look better in comparison; with Emperor's like Nero nearly impossible to get a true look of he truly was.

Like most people just assume Napoleon was short because that's what's repeated, we even named a complex after this despite the fact that was British propaganda. Women throughout history have often suffered from this often vilified or shamed Way more than their male counterparts like with Cleopatra. Wu Zetian; and Theodora and Marozia of the Pornocracy.

In the end, it's actually impossible to make a true history, every account is going to be different, but this is why it's important we preserve history (both fiction, accounts, documentation etc) as best as we can so we can have the most well-rounded view on History and not let lies and propaganda dictate history, something that is today thanks to GenAI making it much more harder to figure out the line between truth and fiction.

When are they gonna ban Echos for breaking the no red text rule?

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/goodbye-to-this-wretched-year-and-may-2026-be-better.1395301/#post-149534953

This time last year I thought I was in a happy relationship. I was so so wrong and didn't find out until weeks later. Spent the beginning of this year heartbroken, broke, and facing homelessness. 2025 can die in a ditch.

"I thought I was in a happy relationship."

Oh, so you were definitely the problem.

[filler]

[Daffy Duck]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ff7-rebirth-director-ff7-remake-co-director-naoki-hamaguchi-praises-japans-far-right-pm-sanae-takaichi.1394749/

What is the point of this thread other than to stoke outrage? Only a handful of the retards on this site even live in Japan. Nobody gives a fuck about a Square-Enix employee's political views.

But he’s the game director, he’ll use the games to push his right wing rhetoric 

[Daffy Duck]

I really don’t understand why trans people in sports has become this giant issue that outshines everything else. If you talk to people online you’d think it was the single most important issue of our times.

And they want you to believe they’re less than 1% of the population too, but everything and everyone has to bend to their will or it’s a genocide

[HardcoreRetro]

Guys, hear me out. 

We should open a Bire Learing Center and use the money to buy ResetEra. What a boon that would be for all our children.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/happy-new-years.1395367/

Era, one of the greatest joys in my life is coming here daily and reading the threads here. I just want to say that you are all a major part of my life. I don’t have to to know you personally to know that I love you. Reading the threads here gets me through a tough life. I wish everyone here an amazing year! Thank you!

Actually the most depressing thing I’ve read in a while.

[HaughtyFrank]

Side note; Lilith, that was an OP that took a bitch to try to streamline and not be overly bloated