Palas wrote:Calling Israel's actions and Hamas' actions "similarly evil" is plain bothsidesism. Evil isn't quantifiable anyway, and although Hamas attacking Israel is undeniably evil and horrific, ethnical cleansing and systematic war crimes isn't qualitatively "the same" as guerrilla warfare tactics and terrorism. This is an asymmetrical war if there ever was one.
“All aboard the Rape Mobile!”
Why not an instant ban?
Community thread popping off
CitizenVectron wrote:Nepenthe wrote:We will take your suggestions into consideration. I realize how hard it is being a volunteer mod, as I am myself for a large subreddit...but you are always very condescending, and I don't think users appreciate it.
Not thread banned/permabanned yet
Nepenthe wrote:I try my hardest to save the condescension in situations that deserve it (although I can admit I'm not perfect), such as the persistent, sinister conspiracies that hover over the way staff function, as well as the generalized demanding behavior from grown adults who should know better.
Modding ResetEra is not and never will be a customer service job. On top of that, I've been at this rodeo long enough to know that plenty of people here think they can push it because they indeed view staff as workers to step on, or that because we're higher up in the pecking order that we are obligated to grin and bear nonsense. Subsequently I'm not going to take any kind of attitude; if I wanted to do that I'd actually go back to retail.
If you want me to not be condescending when responding to you with any questions or concerns you have, even if it's regarding a fuck up or a procedure on our end, just don't come with an attitude. It's really that simple.
10-07-2023, 10:27 PM
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I think you guys are too critical of the staff, look how quickly they mastered the subjects of the conflict in the Middle East and Indian history to be able to make clear guidelines for everyone to have productive discussion about these topics. Sure, this makes Nepenthe's job a bit harder but can you think of another forum staff that would spend so much time making specific non-binding yet also binding rules for every topic that comes up? I can't, most would fall into the pattern we expect of capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy and equally apply rules to all posters and topics, but the staff recognize the importance of ad hoc, arbitrary and hidden rules to ensuring an inclusive community to everyone.
That user forgot to add bitch at the end of “condescending”.
Trupa1aya wrote:it’s a perpetual state of retaliation. Israel terrorizes Palestinians daily- this serves as a recruitment tool for Hamas’ terror campaign. Hamas launches attacks on Israel, this is used to justify terrorizing Palestinians daily.
Rinse and repeat.
The desire for peace has to outweigh the thirst for revenge. But that can’t happen if as long as the consequences are one-sided. Hamas and the State of Israel are both terrorist organizations, and as long as the international community treats the latter as if they hold the moral high ground neither party will have any incentive to behave differently and innocent lives will continue to be lost.
You changed your tune a little from the another thread. But “Israel is a terrorist organization” is  .
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(10-07-2023, 10:27 PM)jooseloose wrote: Nepenthe wrote:I try my hardest to save the condescension in situations that deserve it (although I can admit I'm not perfect), such as the persistent, sinister conspiracies that hover over the way staff function, as well as the generalized demanding behavior from grown adults who should know better.
Modding ResetEra is not and never will be a customer service job. On top of that, I've been at this rodeo long enough to know that plenty of people here think they can push it because they indeed view staff as workers to step on, or that because we're higher up in the pecking order that we are obligated to grin and bear nonsense. Subsequently I'm not going to take any kind of attitude; if I wanted to do that I'd actually go back to retail.
If you want me to not be condescending when responding to you with any questions or concerns you have, even if it's regarding a fuck up or a procedure on our end, just don't come with an attitude. It's really that simple.
I wish someone on Era had the balls to tell Nepenthe:
"You're right. Modding ResetEra is not a customer service job, because IT'S NOT A JOB. Hundreds and hundreds of people, from lurkers to members, despise and hate you for something that YOU'RE DOING FREE.
If you were having a good time on Era, and were universally popular and loved as an Admin (like good old Benji here on TheBore) it would be a different story.
But you're not. You're a miserable, depressing, horrible furry.
Absolutely no one would give a fuck if you suddenly stopped posting. Nobody would care if you disappeared of the face of the Earth. You're not doing anything important, you're not contributing to society, you are literally just wasting your fucking time modding a forum like a tinpot dictator for free... ironically... just like a slave!"
nepenthe wrote:or that because we're higher up in the pecking order
lol
I guarantee 99% of ree’s problems would be solved if they just said, I don’t fucking know. Instead of acting like they’re experts on every subject under the sun
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Nepenthe wants a completely egalitarian parecon society but covets her "higher place in the pecking order" on a fucking video game forum.
loco wrote: It’s impossible to unsee the images I saw today. Legit nearly threw up. I hope the terrorists are brought to justice for their crimes. Reassuring to see Biden not hide and address this straight up.
Thordinson wrote:He never seems to address when Israel does the same.
Hassan subreddit has been outright vile and he said “Israel asked for it”. Where is the dude that was saying he is the future of the left?
The most popular leftist streamer excusing violent excursions to other countries, yet again.
Are they expecting Biden to say that Isreal deserved it or some bs like that? He's the president, he will say what someone in his position is supposed to say.
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Are they expecting Biden to say that Isreal deserved it or some bs like that? He's the president, he will say what someone in his position is supposed to say.
I think they wanted him to deescalate the rhetoric even if it not makes no diplomatic and political sense, specially since how brutal the attack was.
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(10-07-2023, 11:06 PM)Boredfrom wrote: Hassan subreddit has been outright vile and he said “Israel asked for it”. Where is the dude that was saying he is the future of the left?
The most popular leftist streamer excusing violent excursions to other countries, yet again.
It's not really a surprise that the people who had shit takes on Ukraine leading up to the war also have shit takes now, though I guess I'm a little surprised of how brazenly they can brush of videos of women being dragged into vans and worse as "resistance"
Culex wrote:I was listening this morning to the news about this on MSNBC, ala Morning Joe. They were talking about how this attack was basically Israel's 9/11 and the colossal fuckup of their intelligence. They had one of their Israeli reporters responding to their US reporter and basically said all the cold-hard facts were him saying he was anti-Israel. It was actually pretty shocking.
Any type of fact-checking of Israel is immediately met with hammer-like attacks.
No shit, that’s what happened during the 9/11 days.
Culex, people don’t usually like to justify rape and mass killing of families.
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Valuable insight from GK86. I think I understand this conflict better now.
Railway wrote:The response of the world stage will be all too predictable
 what response you wanted after that shit show?
Can we stop using Dark Brandon in this thread? Gosh!
Are they also upset about Iran's parliament celebrating the news of the attack?
you know this needs to be posted in that thread:
"gonna have some real side-eye prepared for everyone who tells me to vote Biden in the next election"
I’m happy you’re side-eyeing. Don’t want anybody accusing me of sucker punching you patronizing son of a bitch.
(10-07-2023, 10:36 PM)Boredfrom wrote: Trupa1aya wrote:it’s a perpetual state of retaliation. Israel terrorizes Palestinians daily- this serves as a recruitment tool for Hamas’ terror campaign. Hamas launches attacks on Israel, this is used to justify terrorizing Palestinians daily.
Rinse and repeat.
The desire for peace has to outweigh the thirst for revenge. But that can’t happen if as long as the consequences are one-sided. Hamas and the State of Israel are both terrorist organizations, and as long as the international community treats the latter as if they hold the moral high ground neither party will have any incentive to behave differently and innocent lives will continue to be lost.
You changed your tune a little from the another thread. But “Israel is a terrorist organization” is . Well, hold on, maybe he's just an anarchist who recognizes this of all states.
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/hamas-attacks-israel-including-attacks-and-kidnappings-of-civilians-israel-retaliates-with-massive-missile-attacks-against-civilian-targets-in-gaza.772478/page-2#post-113142806
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ty_hot wrote:A thread where only western mainstream media is allowed as source is such a great idea. I'm outta here.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hamas-attacks-israel-including-attacks-and-kidnappings-of-civilians-israel-retaliates-with-massive-missile-attacks-against-civilian-targets-in-gaza.772478/page-4#post-113146889
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Arugala wrote:Trup1aya wrote:It’s naive to frame this as a function of Hamas’ holy war when Israel is carrying out ethnic genocide in the occupied territory. Many hamas’ militants were radicalized when they were simply trying to exist in the Israeli occupied territory and IDF comes in attacks/maims/kills their their friends and family without reason. What part of freedom fighting is the raping and murdering, i fogot?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-militants-enter-israel-from-gaza-after-woman-killed-in-rocket-barrage.772349/#post-113120237
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DaciaJC wrote:Terrorist scum, hopefully they're eliminated quickly.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-militants-enter-israel-from-gaza-after-woman-killed-in-rocket-barrage.772349/#post-113120609
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m_shortpants wrote:Caged dogs bite, who knew.
All loss of life is tragic. But let's not pretend this event happened in a vacuum. The response will be disproportionate, you can guarantee that. And things repeat.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-militants-enter-israel-from-gaza-after-woman-killed-in-rocket-barrage.772349/page-3#post-113123192
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BossAttack wrote:m_shortpants wrote:Caged dogs bite, who knew.
All loss of life is tragic. But let's not pretend this event happened in a vacuum. The response will be disproportionate, you can guarantee that. And things repeat. .
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-militants-enter-israel-from-gaza-after-woman-killed-in-rocket-barrage.772349/page-3#post-113123735
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vrietje wrote:cartoon_soldier wrote:The winners here seem Netanyahu and Hamas. The civilians are the losers - on both sides.
How the hell did Mossad now know about this. This seems to have been very well planned by Hamas, Mossad is supposed to have infiltrated all these groups at a high level, if they missed this it means they don't have anybody in Hamas. [conspiracy]or someone at Israeli side wanted this to happen[/conspiracy]
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-militants-enter-israel-from-gaza-after-woman-killed-in-rocket-barrage.772349/page-6#post-113126705
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RisingStar wrote:What do people really think happens when you trap people in a territory that was theirs and take over whilst making them miserable and the bad guys for decades?
The same will happen with all the Rohingya for example and people will be shocked when the media and west ignored human right crises which created more terrorists.
This is wrong, but it’s been bubbling for decades now. History books in the west will point to how the Jewish people fought for their homes, but will forever ignore the daylight robbery that was done there.
Innocent lives being wasted away for politics.
(10-08-2023, 02:15 AM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-militants-enter-israel-from-gaza-after-woman-killed-in-rocket-barrage.772349/#post-113120237
Quote: User Banned (1 week): inflammatory commentary
DaciaJC wrote:Terrorist scum, hopefully they're eliminated quickly.
(10-08-2023, 02:04 AM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/hamas-attacks-israel-including-attacks-and-kidnappings-of-civilians-israel-retaliates-with-massive-missile-attacks-against-civilian-targets-in-gaza.772478/page-4#post-113146889
Quote: User banned (1 week): inflammatory remarks, violating the staff post
Arugala wrote:Trup1aya wrote:It’s naive to frame this as a function of Hamas’ holy war when Israel is carrying out ethnic genocide in the occupied territory. Many hamas’ militants were radicalized when they were simply trying to exist in the Israeli occupied territory and IDF comes in attacks/maims/kills their their friends and family without reason. What part of freedom fighting is the raping and murdering, i fogot? Is this ban suggesting that it's inflammatory to mention rape and murder?
(10-08-2023, 02:15 AM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-militants-enter-israel-from-gaza-after-woman-killed-in-rocket-barrage.772349/page-6#post-113126705
Quote: User Banned (permanent): concern trolling; prior bans for islamophobia and other bigotry related infractions
RisingStar wrote:What do people really think happens when you trap people in a territory that was theirs and take over whilst making them miserable and the bad guys for decades?
The same will happen with all the Rohingya for example and people will be shocked when the media and west ignored human right crises which created more terrorists.
This is wrong, but it’s been bubbling for decades now. History books in the west will point to how the Jewish people fought for their homes, but will forever ignore the daylight robbery that was done there.
Innocent lives being wasted away for politics. They banned this guy for concern trolling when there's posts from other members that say the exact same thing? Just another example of the daylight robbery by the Ottoman Empire imo.
They're just flipping a coin with these bans and trying to get "both sides"
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