Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[benji]

What exactly is wrong with this?

Oh, it's probably about this other tweet:

[benji]

New(?) Planet Smasher Lore:

It's the simple fact that it's basically assuming this is GOING to happen instead of putting forth any action, any energy, any resistance whatsoever.
 

Why is Bernie submitting articles of impeachment, when he's not even in the House? Why is Bernie grabbing a gun and seizing the floor of the Senate, the capitol police are just going to take him out? Why is Bernie throwing home made bombs out of a helicopter at the White House, his aim is terrible and he'll never hit Trump personally?

[Boredfrom]

Yeah I don't think that's what he's saying. He seems to be saying "things are much better over there compared to what Americans have". He doesn't think that invading Greenland will lead to Americans having these things. He's pointing out that Greenlanders stand to lose far more than they could ever gain.

Then he should say that explicitly. People aren't good at reading subtext in social media posts.

This dude wants to be a writer.

[Disco55]

forget it

[Boredfrom]

Oh well at least all the asshole independents who voted for this are getting "Prices down on day one"

Oh wait, I'm being informed that everything has become double expensive and all those "INDEPENDENTS" don't give a shit.

Yes, BWoog, let’s have this conversation when leftie darling is getting blamed.  

[Boredfrom]

It is statements like this that a lot of non-US members have no faith that anybody currently in your government has our backs.

I mean… DAH!?

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/january-16-2026-donald-trump-issues-new-tariff-threat-for-countries-that-dont-support-us-control-of-greenland.1408390/page-11#post-150204451

Can't seem to find the reason why my boy got banned

[Boredfrom]

I think the thing that bothers me the most is that you can make a materialism angle for this. Like, "Trump would rather go on an expansionist war against other countries, wasting treasure and blood, than to give you healthcare" would aim for the same target without sounding so out of touch. Sanders is not the right leader for the left at this particular moment

Don’t disagree but seems that people that are genuinely pissed about the wording of Sanders post are the same social media slacktivist leftists that tell everyone to not to vote and then are surprised that it has consequences. 

I’m pretty sure some of you understood the idea perfectly but are pissed off that it doesn’t take a moral grandstanding and actually trying to appeal to the median voter.

[Snoopy]

New(?) Planet Smasher Lore:

It's the simple fact that it's basically assuming this is GOING to happen instead of putting forth any action, any energy, any resistance whatsoever.

Bernie did this with Canada last year too. He doesn't actually have anything to say, he just keeps banging his stupid "so we should have socialism then, right" drum. It's fundamentally unserious bullshit and he has to know it.

And I say this as someone whose dad worked for the guy.

Ted’s off his psych meds again. If it was true he would have been in every Bernie thread telling everyone about his dad being Bernie’s bestie

[benji]

Yeah I don't think that's what he's saying. He seems to be saying "things are much better over there compared to what Americans have". He doesn't think that invading Greenland will lead to Americans having these things. He's pointing out that Greenlanders stand to lose far more than they could ever gain.

Then he should say that explicitly. People aren't good at reading subtext in social media posts.

This dude wants to be a writer.

[benji]

It is statements like this that a lot of non-US members have no faith that anybody currently in your government has our backs.

Whole thread of people upset that Bernie didn't tweet some dumb shit on a Nazi CSAM generator to make them personally feel better for half a second.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Member only
https://www.resetera.com/threads/minnesotan-man-seen-guarding-his-neighborhood-armed-with-an-ar-15.1409710/

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1qgr3on/armed_community_member_stands_guard_in_his/

I am fundamentally against the 2nd amendment, I find it to be an antique, dangerous and paranoid policy that overwhelmingly gets more innocent people killed than the opposite....

Then along comes this orange fuckwit, who proceeds to unironically prove to everyone in the 21st century why the 2nd amendment exists in the first place. MAKE AMERICA COLONIAL AGAIN.

This timeline is beyond parody.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/minnesotan-man-seen-guarding-his-neighborhood-armed-with-an-ar-15.1409710/#post-150238009

No, we aren't doing a thread that is just thinly veiled insurrection posting. Especially when the source is a random subreddit.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ice-hops-fence-in-texas-attacks-family-guns-drawn-they-dont-care-at-all-at-this-point.1408981/#post-150194470

User banned (2 months): advocating violence

Put every Nazi in the ground.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ice-hops-fence-in-texas-attacks-family-guns-drawn-they-dont-care-at-all-at-this-point.1408981/#post-150165316

 User banned (1 month): advocating violence

Found on Reddit just now, linked the Texas KRGV website as well.

Surveillance video captures the moment a group of men stormed a family's property in the Donna area.
They jumped the fence before detaining two people at the home.
The man who provided the video to Channel 5 News claims the men didn't identify themselves, but he believes they were immigration authorities.

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qf3vjp/ice_hops_texas_familys_fence_and_attacks_them/

"Then I just turned around, and I see like 15 guys jumping the fence," homeowner Humberto Garcia said.

These were scary moments for Garcia as he watched at least a dozen men, some in tactical gear, jump the fence of his family's property.

Garcia says it happened on January 9 and escalated quickly.

"Then I was like, 'get out of my property. Give me the search warrant,' and they just started attacking me," Garcia said.

The video shows Garcia being thrown to the ground. He says one of them pulled a gun on him, all while his parents and younger sisters were inside their home near South Victoria Road and Stites Road.

"When they saw me, my two sisters came out, and they closed the door and my younger sister was like, 'why are you doing that to him?'" Garcia said.

Garcia says the men were in unmarked vehicles, never showed a warrant, and refused to answer his questions.

Channel 5 News reached out to ICE on Monday for comment and received a response on Thursday saying the agency is still working on the case. They did not say if the people on the video were federal officers.

Garcia said he is a U.S. citizen, but his parents are not. He says both of them were in the process of getting their citizenship.

Garcia claims the agents went inside his home and took his mother and father.

More at
https://www.krgv.com/news/video-captures-donna-family-s-detainment-by-alleged-federal-agents

Don't know how to embed the video, but it's on there as well.

How long until someone (finally?) makes use of their (I think) 4th and 2nd amendments?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ice-hops-fence-in-texas-attacks-family-guns-drawn-they-dont-care-at-all-at-this-point.1408981/#post-150166099

User banned (1 month): advocating violence

The only good ICE agent is a dead one at this point

[benji]

Bernie was a good man once. But like so many others on the left, he's simply too old and too set in his ways to be useful at this time in history.

Bernie is one person and has been doing shit like that for ages. He is not a leader and he is not the defacto representation of left leaning people in this country. Fuck Bernie.

Bernie's consistency on messaging was great when he was running for office and acting as a Senator related to domestic economic issues, but he really needs to read the room and realize it's entirely inappropriate to make these disastrously evil foreign policy attacks about those issues as well. It's so tone deaf and provides absolutely no push back or response as to why it's bad to begin with.

Just call this evil and a betrayal of our allies. Tell the military to disobey unlawful orders. No mealy mouth bullshit. Why is that so hard for Democrats to do. Cowards

 Pathetic statement. Trump about to start WW3 is not the time to make jokes and score political points.

Real leftists would have done the work and read the theory and know that an apocalyptic battle between the bougie capitalist forces over the increasingly scarce resources of the planet (here represented by Greenland) will bring the imperialist US/EU/NATO/Canada/etc. closer to the brink of collapse and create the necessary grounds for the Vanguard Party to seize power and bring about Black, trans and neurodivergent liberation. "But people will die" is dismissing concerns about the necessary dialectic of History acting to bring us closer to the guaranteed utopia. 

[Boredfrom]

Bernie was a good man once. But like so many others on the left, he's simply too old and too set in his ways to be useful at this time in history.

Bernie is one person and has been doing shit like that for ages. He is not a leader and he is not the defacto representation of left leaning people in this country. Fuck Bernie.

Bernie's consistency on messaging was great when he was running for office and acting as a Senator related to domestic economic issues, but he really needs to read the room and realize it's entirely inappropriate to make these disastrously evil foreign policy attacks about those issues as well. It's so tone deaf and provides absolutely no push back or response as to why it's bad to begin with.

Just call this evil and a betrayal of our allies. Tell the military to disobey unlawful orders. No mealy mouth bullshit. Why is that so hard for Democrats to do. Cowards

 Pathetic statement. Trump about to start WW3 is not the time to make jokes and score political points.

Real leftists would have done the work and read the theory and know that an apocalyptic battle between the bougie capitalist forces over the increasingly scarce resources of the planet (here represented by Greenland) will bring the imperialist US/EU/NATO/Canada/etc. closer to the brink of collapse and create the necessary grounds for the Vanguard Party to seize power and bring about Black, trans and neurodivergent liberation. "But people will die" is dismissing concerns about the necessary dialectic of History acting to bring us closer to the guaranteed utopia. 

Is just that the Vanguard Party is actually Trump’s Peace Board.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ice-hops-fence-in-texas-attacks-family-guns-drawn-they-dont-care-at-all-at-this-point.1408981/#post-150194470

User banned (2 months): advocating violence

Put every Nazi in the ground.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ice-hops-fence-in-texas-attacks-family-guns-drawn-they-dont-care-at-all-at-this-point.1408981/#post-150165316

 User banned (1 month): advocating violence

Found on Reddit just now, linked the Texas KRGV website as well.

Surveillance video captures the moment a group of men stormed a family's property in the Donna area.
They jumped the fence before detaining two people at the home.
The man who provided the video to Channel 5 News claims the men didn't identify themselves, but he believes they were immigration authorities.

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qf3vjp/ice_hops_texas_familys_fence_and_attacks_them/

"Then I just turned around, and I see like 15 guys jumping the fence," homeowner Humberto Garcia said.

These were scary moments for Garcia as he watched at least a dozen men, some in tactical gear, jump the fence of his family's property.

Garcia says it happened on January 9 and escalated quickly.

"Then I was like, 'get out of my property. Give me the search warrant,' and they just started attacking me," Garcia said.

The video shows Garcia being thrown to the ground. He says one of them pulled a gun on him, all while his parents and younger sisters were inside their home near South Victoria Road and Stites Road.

"When they saw me, my two sisters came out, and they closed the door and my younger sister was like, 'why are you doing that to him?'" Garcia said.

Garcia says the men were in unmarked vehicles, never showed a warrant, and refused to answer his questions.

Channel 5 News reached out to ICE on Monday for comment and received a response on Thursday saying the agency is still working on the case. They did not say if the people on the video were federal officers.

Garcia said he is a U.S. citizen, but his parents are not. He says both of them were in the process of getting their citizenship.

Garcia claims the agents went inside his home and took his mother and father.

More at
https://www.krgv.com/news/video-captures-donna-family-s-detainment-by-alleged-federal-agents

Don't know how to embed the video, but it's on there as well.

How long until someone (finally?) makes use of their (I think) 4th and 2nd amendments?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ice-hops-fence-in-texas-attacks-family-guns-drawn-they-dont-care-at-all-at-this-point.1408981/#post-150166099

User banned (1 month): advocating violence

The only good ICE agent is a dead one at this point

Re can be so funny. One week ago this rhetoric was fine and then it suddenly isn't. All just depends if Nepnep or b-dubs checks your post

[benji]

Is just that the Vanguard Party is actually Trump’s Peace Board.

Read the theory, chud: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Congress_of_Intellectuals_in_Defense_of_Peace
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Peace_Council

[Boredfrom]

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ice-hops-fence-in-texas-attacks-family-guns-drawn-they-dont-care-at-all-at-this-point.1408981/#post-150165316

 User banned (1 month): advocating violence

Found on Reddit just now, linked the Texas KRGV website as well.

Surveillance video captures the moment a group of men stormed a family's property in the Donna area.
They jumped the fence before detaining two people at the home.
The man who provided the video to Channel 5 News claims the men didn't identify themselves, but he believes they were immigration authorities.

Don't know how to embed the video, but it's on there as well.

How long until someone (finally?) makes use of their (I think) 4th and 2nd amendments?

It's weird to me looking at threads like this. These guys are all ACAB and "abolish the police and prisons" and constantly posturing about this kind of stuff yet it's like they have absolutely zero awareness or experience with the topic.

Police do this all the time. Do they forget "no-knock" raids completely? Police are constantly late at night banging on doors, not identifying themselves and gunning people down. The government has long maintained that you're supposed to know by psychic powers that it's police and submit or else you get what you deserve if you come near a weapon or a cell phone or any other object. Police pull their weapons on anyone in sight half the time. How does "using" your 2nd and 4th Amendment rights go in all those instances?

These dudes basically never care. Hell, half the time they're bitching in threads because more police aren't violating more laws and using violence against more people. Then we get to ICE acting like cops because they're cops and everyone's talking about how it's literally Nazi Germany and people need to start murdering police and anyone else who looks Nazi. "They're murdering innocent people!" Where was your energy for any instance of police murdering innocent people last year or any time before except that brief period in 2020 when you needed to establish your cred online with other losers?

ICE ICE (baby) DESTROY ICE BEHEAD ICE ROUNDHOUSE KICK ICE argle bargle. Meanwhile:
https://policeepi.uic.edu/u-s-data-on-police-shootings-and-violence/
https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/
https://policeviolencereport.org/

"Trump gave them immunity!" No, you did decades ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified_immunity
And Congress literally doesn't care: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ending_Qualified_Immunity_Act

You all "read" Balko's book when it was fashionable in 2020, maybe try and remember what it was about.

[filler]

not a single one of them is the beautiful woman I've ever met 

ugly girls are hotter than a trans tbh 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Re can be so funny. One week ago this rhetoric was fine and then it suddenly isn't. All just depends if Nepnep or b-dubs checks your post

It was fine when it was mostly Yanks talking shit, but when non-Americans started saying it, B-Dubs suddenly got all precious about it.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/danish-troops-told-to-shoot-first-ask-questions-seek-orders-later-if-us-invades-greenland-which-denmarks-defence-minister-confirms-as-protocol.1400104/page-4#post-150253180

Every thread about US-related politics is going to have Americans doing this in them, I guess.

That's the third meltdown I've seen this week alone. Someone in another thread said the #NotAllMen comparison broke minds and they couldn't have been more bang on.

Time to close the thread down again to spare their feelings!

Was just the other week when a ton of Canadians caught bans, while none of the Americans who riled them up faced any consequences. Mods are complicit in this American exceptionalism bs too.

[TylenolJones]

Saying the only good nazi is a dead nazi is now a bannable offense in the community that celebrated when people punched nazis   

[benji]

Saying the only good nazi is a dead nazi is now a bannable offense in the community that celebrated when people punched nazis   

I think the staff legitimately believe it could get the government to shut the forum down.

[TylenolJones]

Saying the only good nazi is a dead nazi is now a bannable offense in the community that celebrated when people punched nazis   

I think the staff legitimately believe it could get the government to shut the forum down.

And create 1000000 bdumbs? I don’t think the Trump administration is that stupid.

[Snoopy]

BufBaf banned



That twat bought Arc Raiders weeks after it came out then spent all his time crying because he kept getting shot and having his gear nicked

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/153-democrats-vote-to-fund-israel-block-palestinian-statehood-cut-the-irs-and-dei-expand-funding-for-christian-nationalism-and-anti-abortion.1408042/
Nine pages...but I'll be selective. First we'll open with:

Not only Crockett but Ro Khanna too! This fake fuck was just on Hasan's stream a few weeks ago saying all the right things on Israel including no more money and then he votes for this! This legislation is more than just supporting a Genocidal state it is furthering the dispossession of Palestinians. Anyone that voted for this is a vile despicable piece of shit.

That's why I've become so indifferent to the plight of American politics, you just get gaslit into thinking one side somehow is on the side of human decency and then you watch them basically coalesce with Republicans to destroy international law, to genocide a people and to destabilize the Middle East with imperialism and Zionist agendas. They all can burn in hell for all I care. America is rotten to the core.

Really great opposition to Trump we have here...
#Resistance

The Democrats will not save you from this nightmare.

Sadly a sizeable portion of Era still does not realise this or simply refuses to.

I hope it's fear of speaking out and being vocal that is the reason because thinking that some here that are supposed to be compassionate are silent on this because they agree with what Israel does, is pretty painful. So I choose to think that they are scared.

Either that or, as I suspect, simply not caring.

I mean, it's pretty telling that any thread about Xbox has got people queuing up to post "Fuck Microsoft" because they are oh, so concerned about their support for the genocide, but that thread the other day about switching from Windows to Linux was wall-to-wall "absolutely fucking not, my competitive games won't work". That's the level we're at here. People "boycotting" product lines they have no intention of owning, whilst carrying on with the others because, what do you expect them to do, not play Fortnite for a while?

And then they act shocked when people don't wanna vote for these scumbags.

Harm reduction! If only Kamala had won, surely the Palestinian genocide would've ended and the boomerang of Imperial cruelty in the form of ICE terrorism would've been completely curtailed because they'd have defunded and abolished those efforts! Right? Right???????????

I see a lot of posting on this forum about how people who are disaffected from democrats are actually supporting trump or republicans and I think it's important to note what the democrats actually do when people hold their nose and vote for them.

We don't have a party that supports normal human morals and decency. We got the, "Trump's other arm" party now.

I swear man, if I ever see another poster bitching about people who did not vote for Harris...

Odd the lack of msnbc chyron brained libs not wandering in to explain how important and strategically nescessary this vote was, because only through fixed, unwavering support of the Democratic party can america be healed by voting every two years.

Basically all the posts are like this. But that's not why we're here.

She is:

We should have a Malcolm X federal holiday at this point.

He's not as easily white-washable into a liberal pacifist as King was. The conditions for a Malcolm X holiday will occur when white supremacy and capitalism are dismantled in this country.

She absolutely sucked as a candidate, but If everyone that showed up to vote for Biden had showed up for Harris none of this shit would be happening.

153 of Harris' party members just voted to continue funding the current agenda.

What do you mean NONE of this shit would be happening if she were President?????

Can't wait until the man who shit Renee good is walking free after having gotten off and is giving interviews and signing autographs in 10 years like George Zimmerman too.

It's apparent when you realized that like 99% of the people you see in photos of lynchings, anti-civil rights backlash, internment camps, etc. basically got off scot free.

Just waltzed right back into society like nothing happened.

Nothing will happen to ICE because the wider American society was never equipped to actually punish white supremacy. The pessimist in me fundamentally believes not only that this nation and its white caste cannot be salvaged from this moment, but that it honestly doesn't deserve it because it doesn't want to be salvaged.

With both parties having record low approvals at this point in time, is there a chance of getting more left wing candidates in office and start a coalition that refuses the label of Democrat/Republican?

I feel like if there was ever a time, it would have to be now no?

That would require mass organization of people to effectively create a leftist party over the long term. I don't trust Americans to think beyond the next election cycle. Entryism forever, baybee.

Fake edit: unrelated but I went looking around my area for a DSA chapter and unfortunately mine went defunct a few years ago. I've been looking into non profit orgs to see what more I could be doing.

I've been cooling on the DSA for awhile, mainly since I had a talk with a party affiliate last year. I think many of the people there have a genuine interest in the common good and the welfare of humanity (although many don't know how revolution works but they're democratic socialists, so eh), but they are also a good case study in why entryism doesn't work.

Trying to flood the Democratic Party with democratic socialists is only ever going to result in those democratic socialists kowtowing to neoliberal democratic interests. Contradiction is in everything; Democrats aren't just going to make themselves obsolete. They like being corporately captured because they don't have to fucking labor. Democrats have access to the money and the connections. They have the power and they can set you up for life. If you want to have access to those treats, then you are forced as the newcomer to renege on your principles when the calls come in. That's why Mamdani has already backed down on his anti-Zionist rhetoric. All that work, all that door knocking, all that social media engagement, right down the drain of typical American politics.

The DSA is meant to stymie revolutionary progress and energy and redirect it back into the system. The way it works now, it is not a viable alternative. A viable alternative must be committed to the struggle of working class politics and thus it must be truly anti-capitalist and internationalist to succeed. It cannot simply be about Ship of Theseus'ing a political party, because that ship will bite back and prevent you from replacing the rotting planks.

You can put the most awful things in a bill, throw in funding for Israel, and at least half of Democrats will still vote for it.

Pelosi already said that we could get Olympus Has Fallen'd and they'd still be sending money to Israel. Not a single American's life on this forum matters in lieu of our government's goals of imperialist expansion, and too many don't seem to realize it still.

Only explanation is that they will (try to) use Israel to conquer the rest of the region in the future

They don't need to conquer the rest of the region with Israel there. The region has already been divided simply due to the bullwarking that Israel's mere existence provides. My thought is that we're not even going to try to truly take over Iran, not even for oil. The oil is more valuable underground for now. Saber rattling/war against Iran (and the operations against places like Yemen and Lebanon) are simply to punish places for resisting American trade domination and dollarization, especially in lieu of China's increasing economic independence and its inroads with Global South relations. We're a financial economy first and foremost, after all. But I'm no real expert in these matters so I could be off the mark there.

How about the Democrats take a stand for something? Literally anything.

They do stand for something: neoliberal capitalism and American imperialism.

Yes, I am surprised people still vote for these soulless and spineless assholes.

We've been propagandized by the ruling classes into believing that voting is a moral responsibility, that voting is a way to honor your ancestors' sacrifices, that your vote is your most powerful tool you have to enact change, and that you must always vote for the lesser evil.

None of this is a surprise.

We both know that, I'm talking about anything that separates them from the Republicans other than aesthetics and intensity of force.

I'd be willing to argue that the steadfast commitment to neoliberalism does separate them from Republicans more than aesthetically because Republicans have moved on from the veneer that neoliberalism works. Or, if you're more cynical, Republicans understand that neoliberalism has accomplished its goal of corporate empowerment and worker disempowerment since the 70s, and thus we need to move on to the next stage of capitalism to totally and concretely destroy the worker: fascism.

Democrats just want veritable house negroes who are thankful with their shitty lot in life as they seek to steer the empire under the purview of the capitalist class. They want to maintain a cultural pacification in the wake of rampant imperialism and capitalistic decay which relies on minority tokenism, co-opting and whitewashing of revolutionary energy and demands, liberal identity politics and meek, hypocritical pacifism, half-way gestures towards improving our human and infrastructural needs, and so on. However, this is becoming more and more untenable as a philosophy as the economic conditions have developed into overt hostility and hatred towards the worker, as wealth inequality and the cost of living is becoming egregious no matter who is in office, and the Internet has allowed more people to at least come across counternarratives and new ideas outside of the typical political messaging which serves to put into words the despondancy that Americans are palpably feeling but were unable to name beforehand due to deliberate propagandization and the dilution of our educational systems and outlets.

In short, people can't fucking live right now, and when you can't live, you start becoming radicalized, and no amount of "What are you guys talking about; the economy is great!" or "Look at how audacious and mean Trump is!" is going to solve these contradictions. The Democratic Party is as it stands now is outdated and it refuses to even remotely reform itself, to say nothing of gutting itself and starting over, because the Democratic Party does not actually exist to serve the people. It exists to serve the capitalist class through a bullshit ideological lens that even dumbass Republicans have figured out doesn't work anymore.

That is the difference between the parties. One still thinks we're in the fucking 90s and that if you just elect enough fucking Black and queer faces then you'll settle the wretched masses down over how much they're getting screwed over, and the other party is like "Man, folks are really angry over how much they're getting screwed over, but who gives a shit? What are they gonna do; shoot us? We will breaking up BRICS now. :3"

The craziest thing is that Malcom is such an icon outside of the U.S. One of the biggest symbols of anti-racism and anti-imperialism and even anti-capitalism

But americans treat Malcom so differently. Even progressives, who like to quote about the "knife and progress" time and time again, just permanently erase the most important part of his history. He was a revolutionary, folks. He criticised western "democracy", he was interested in Cuba and USSR and China. He didnt partake in shallow, moralist analysis of those socialist experiences. Just like Huey or Bobby and, to a lesser extent, even MLK. Some of the biggest icons of anti-racism struggle worldwide.

It's always been so odd to see really

Americans by and large do not like Black revolutionaries because they are fundamentally juxtaposed against American/white superiority and imperialism.

And at the same time you, the self proclaimed voice of people of color around the world, would just risk letting hundreds of thousands of people starve to death in hopes that a nonexistent better deal exists.

Hundreds of millions of people already go hungry every year due to American and European colonialism and capitalism; the Imperial Core is not meaningfully doing anything about it because the suffering of those outside the core is necessary to the maintenance of Western comfort and power, thus their conditions are only meaningfully discussed in useless arguments like this. It is sanctimony of the highest order to act like we should be grateful for our politicians for ekeing out the equivalence of charity because leftists want to actually address the conditions that cause hundreds of millions to suffer from malnutrition and starvation in the first place.

Bonus Echos:

Plus putting the Democrats to task is part of how we punish the Republicans BECAUSE the Democratic Party has utterly failed to punish them for decades and like, has supported them or been soft, slowly letting them get what they want (because it's also what many of these Democrats want). These Dems will never make things better because they don't want it to, their not our allies, they never were and need to be removed.

But honestly, I genuinely really feel the US system is just too broken at this point, that the issue goes WAY beyond either party and the entire system is just to corrupt, too compromised by cooperate and private interest to actually work,

We've been propagandized by the ruling classes into believing that voting is a moral responsibility, that voting is a way to honor your ancestors' sacrifices, that your vote is your most powerful tool you have to enact change, and that you must always vote for the lesser evil.

None of this is a surprise.

I honestly feel like a massive fool for not realizing sooner, like it's only been in the past 2-3 years I began to realize this and I feel like I should have known better

Final post to include:

And just because it seems to need to be said daily: Gavin Newsom and Amy Klobuchar are enemies. Not even "not friends". They are enemies of progress.

Then B-Dubs wanders in 28 hours after Nepenthe's last post to lock it despite the fact that there were plenty of other sources posted in the thread including the actual Congressional vote itself:

Given the source for this thread is literally a random social media account for a children's YouTube show that didn't exist until last month, it's being locked. If someone would like to remake it with an actual source of some kind, feel free.

[D3RANG3D]

It's almost like they are...gasp...political opportunists!

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NepNep

153 of Harris' party members just voted to continue funding the current agenda.

What do you mean NONE of this shit would be happening if she were President?????

Moron, you encouraged your site not to vote for the first PoC POTUS woman.  No idea why NepNep encouraged it and makes posts like that.

[AldusMoneyPenny]

I'm too busy IRL to post here much, but wanted to drop a gob of pre-cum to all the Bire folks that I miss so much. Also fuck you all for posting those images a few pages back.