Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[BananaBlast]

They're mad at the consensual sex minigames (which are mainly off-screen), but what they truly hate is the GOW3 Poseidon slave girl moment.

Now when I saw that scene as a kid, I thought it was the most extreme and cruel thing you could see in a video game. But.... after rewatching it.... it wasn't nearly as bad as I had remembered ?

It's cruel obviously, but kratos has done cruel shit to numerous other civilians.

As for why Era continues to act like it's the worst thing ever, to the point they're still throwing jabs at the old devs?

Because she's an attractive woman with her bare tits out. Nipples. That's it.

I realized that I only saw it as the most extreme and "worst thing Kratos has ever done" was because of the shock of seeing uncensored boobies in a video game. But now that I've grown up, and deprogrammed myself from American prudism, I realize it wasn't all that bad, and it's just another instance of Kratos killing an undeserving civillan.

Now you combine Era's increasingly insane progressivism with that same deeply ingrained american prudishness, and you get maximum salt.

[BananaBlast]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-think-we-will-have-the-sex-minigame-on-the-god-of-war-remakes.1436470/page-5#post-151377061

I think it's super cool how literally every single post here defending the originals and advocating for keeping the scenes is from men, and not a single woman has said they should keep them.

Maybe think about that a little bit and what it says about you.

[kaleidoscopium]

I'm pretty sure removing all of the horrific misogyny is a reason why they're doing these at all.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-think-we-will-have-the-sex-minigame-on-the-god-of-war-remakes.1436470/#post-151365403

[kaleidoscopium]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-think-we-will-have-the-sex-minigame-on-the-god-of-war-remakes.1436470/page-5#post-151377061

I think it's super cool how literally every single post here defending the originals and advocating for keeping the scenes is from men, and not a single woman has said they should keep them.

Maybe think about that a little bit and what it says about you.

Used to be a bannable offense to speak for an entire group like that AND to assume posters gender identity. Wow, times have really changed.

[kaleidoscopium]

Yes…pretty sure the reason they are remaking the games is not so they can make Kratos "woke" in 2026.

I mean not literally the only reason, but that is almost certainly a factor.

Cleaning up Kratos' image makes not much sense when the whole reason of the new games is his attonment

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-think-we-will-have-the-sex-minigame-on-the-god-of-war-remakes.1436470/page-5#post-151378567

Discord rally went out, unfortunately Carl was the one to answer it

[HaughtyFrank]

How is Resetera not talking about these Berlinale press conferences

[kaleidoscopium]

Gamifying violence = cool, great, no issues. Cant wait to see the high def head ripping!
Gamifying sex = one of the great evils of our time

They're not gonna be in, but they should be.

Do you understand why so many people have an issue with it in the first place. It isn't because "gamifyied sex".

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-think-we-will-have-the-sex-minigame-on-the-god-of-war-remakes.1436470/page-5#post-151378993

Maybe try engaging with the topic Carl, instead of asking ban baiting questions. You’ve played the games before right?



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Clearly, it didn't bother me younger and it doesn't bother me today because it's just a fucking video game. And that's all.
When you're mentally sound and able to tell the difference between what's second degree (ironic) and what's not, there's no issue with it. Most people here remind me of the communities on X that make a scandal out of the different themes in a work instead of pointing out what actually causes problems elsewhere.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-think-we-will-have-the-sex-minigame-on-the-god-of-war-remakes.1436470/page-5#post-151379386

Ban incoming

[benji]

I don't know man…

Am I a monster?

I don't think people should be killed…but when a person from the people-should-be-killed ideology is killed I find it hard to look past it all and tap into a nonexistent well of empathy?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/le-monde-macron-urges-calm-after-far-right-activist-fatally-beaten.1436554/#post-151376014

Sounds like you don’t actually believe in anything and just follow the group think

Oh, they had an interview with him before they killed him?

They're essentially in favor of killing protesters here.

I like how they make nazis seem reasonable in comparison by pitting the far-right against the "radical left". MSM being useless garbage, as usual.

Considering they beat someone to death radical left is very apt, no?

They're unironically doing “Everything is violence except actual violence, which is a good thing”

I enjoy the suggestion that there's some single "people-should-be-killed" ideology. (And that it's definitely not the one with probably a hundred million bodies last century.)

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joseph-gordon-levitt-lobbies-to-end-section-230.1436524/#post-151369501

But, freedom of speech, without criminalization of hate speech in tandem, is not an entirely good thing.

[Jansen]

I am well aware of the various issues people cite. But in a trilogy where you are ripping and tearing your way through the Greek pantheon, I simply do not see how a goofy sex scene minigame where the camera pans away is worse than any of the content the game is definitely going to keep. I think this is good old fashioned puritanism dressed up in progressive verbiage.



People face violence and death every day, but gamifying that is totally fine. Rewarding players for committing the best violence is par for the course.





Why?

That's incredibly easy to SAY, but I don't really think that's true. How many high profile games have "sex minigames"? How many games depict sex and nudity with the loving detail that gets devoted to blood and gore? In this specific case we can point to the bad vibes, sure, but I think we'd be having the same conversation right now even if Kratos had a lengthy conversation on enthusiastic consent before the start of the minigame.

This mother fucker is getting reported into the stratosphere

[kaleidoscopium]

How long until 

“Thread locked to deal with multitude of reports”

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joseph-gordon-levitt-lobbies-to-end-section-230.1436524/#post-151369501

This makes me immediately think it shouldn't exist in its current form because the first amendment and the american idea of freedom of speech are both pretty bad. Americans are allowed to say the most vile things without consequences in the name of "freedom of speech" and through the internet they flood the world with this BS.

It's not a bad idea and it works for the majority of the world, america is the odd one out not the other way around and that you think america has it all figured out is kind of ridiculous when america is one of the most fucked up countries at the moment partly because people are allowed to spread lies and hateful content all day long.

Ive come to the opinion it would make sense to give the usa and all its technofascist corps their own separate internet and isolate the rest of the world from them.

The last thing the world needs is the contagion of american ideology spreading further.

The american idea of freedom of speech is toxic and the direct cause of a lot of harm.

All the sites you hate for this (Facebook et al) would be the ones most likely to survive in a no Section 230 world due to being able to afford the necessary lawyers, and also being content to deal with hardline moderation that just stamps out (very specific) controversial posts likely to garner them a lawsuit.

Conversely smaller places like Resetera would basically be at "they literally just need to find one post that's not moderated that calls Thiel a poopoo head and we get to find out how bad forum moderation can get when it's backed by a lawsuit threatening to bankrupt everybody running it" levels of being screwed.

Then adjust it so that only the individual can get sued/punished not the entire site.

That's literally what Section 230 does.

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/today-show-host-savannah-guthries-mother-missing-in-arizona-upgraded-to-crime-scene-at-mothers-home.1423015/page-6#post-151360159

At this point I'm almost convinced this is all some hoax meant to take people away from the Epstein files and Pam bondis recent implosion. Fox News is covering this 24/7 even their own viewers are getting tired of this story



The inclusion of TMZ is when something clicked that something just isn't right here.

User Banned (2 Weeks): Conspiracy Theorizing

[benji]

That thread is immediately misled by the OP claiming Section 230 is the First Amendment for the internet. It's not, the First Amendment is the First Amendment for the internet. All Section 230 does is say you aren't liable for user posts. Eliminating it or changing it wouldn't do anything about "hate speech" as that's First Amendment protected. What it would do is eliminate user posts entirely because nobody wants to be liable for shit anybody can post at any time. There would be no social media, no YouTube, no forums at all.

[HaughtyFrank]

This makes me immediately think it shouldn't exist in its current form because the first amendment and the american idea of freedom of speech are both pretty bad. Americans are allowed to say the most vile things without consequences in the name of "freedom of speech" and through the internet they flood the world with this BS.

Hear, hear.

This is so much better than mean internet comments

[kaleidoscopium]

Benji will be liable for Fillers posts… 

Time to lawyer up

[Alpacx]

Benji will be liable for Fillers posts… 

Time to lawyer up

Nintex buying Benji a one way ticket to The Hague.

[benji]

The idea that people can say things on the internet without Donald Trump or ICE having them thrown in prison or just straight up being murdered held accountable is toxic and the direct cause of a lot of harm.

[Snoopy]

To be fair it would be really funny if you Americans had a civil war. It would probably last about 10 minutes because the moment someone got injured the rest of you would run inside to rage about it on Twitter

[Propagandhim]

I dont even understand what they think happens in the absence of people uttering consonants and syllables from their mouths?  The racism gets solved?  

This makes me immediately think it shouldn't exist in its current form because the first amendment and the american idea of freedom of speech are both pretty bad. Americans are allowed to say the most vile things without consequences in the name of "freedom of speech" and through the internet they flood the world with this BS.

So unless the whole world bans speech, it can infect other countries that have otherwise solved racism by banning that speech? What?

[Besticus Maximus]

The first amendment is basically a mechanism for olden days baptists and presbyterians to sell slaves to each other

[benji]

I dont even understand what they think happens in the absence of people uttering consonants and syllables from their mouths?  The racism gets solved?  

This makes me immediately think it shouldn't exist in its current form because the first amendment and the american idea of freedom of speech are both pretty bad. Americans are allowed to say the most vile things without consequences in the name of "freedom of speech" and through the internet they flood the world with this BS.

So unless the whole world bans speech, it can infect other countries that have otherwise solved racism by banning that speech?  What?

If there's one thing the rest of the world is known for it's the lack of ethnic conflict due to the strong policing of speech by empowered state officials.

[benji]

Surely once China, India and the Muslim world police the internet we'll be free of anti-Black racism like use of the n-word. That's one thing you never see from people in those countries: anti-Black messages. Same for anti-LGBTQIA2S+ messages rather than affirmation of the entire spectrum of identities. And we shouldn't forget the elevated respect for women!

I mean, Pluto and others in that thread can't be suggesting that white supremacist European countries be the ones to further colonize the internet, right?

[HaughtyFrank]

Benji will be liable for Fillers posts… 

Time to lawyer up

Nintex buying Benji a one way ticket to The Hague.

Benjamin Netanyahu caught in the most unexpected way.

[Boredfrom]

Obviously, when they say that they want the speech regulated, they think as if it was Internet moderation of their favorite sites where moderation is most of the time voluntary and low standards so they attract the most assholish of people ( just like ICE ).

They want the internet moderated by ERA/TransReddit mods that haven’t outgrown tumblr, where people try to cancel communities because discord messages.

[Boredfrom]

The constant arguments in that thread of "he is supposed to be a horrible misogynistic fuck!" just...don't get it.

“I’m a dumbass?”

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-506#post-151382902

[Jansen]

Can't wait until they realize that Konami is going to remove the sexy time photos from mgs4 thus ruining kojimas perfect vision and asking us if we rike it while they do it

[Propagandhim]

Sigh the people saying, "Kratos is a blood-thirsty, vengeance-obsessed, lunatic" just...*sigh*...just don't....get it.  Murder is never okay.

[Boredfrom]

Noticing a growing trend on here of men deflecting accusations of sexism in media with "Oh so if it were a MAN it wouldn't be SEXIST??" like yes. Congrats on understanding one of the most basic aspects of sexist portayals of women.

 

I kind of love how at ERA they don’t even bother anymore with the “power fantasy/ idealization” argument because the realize people have different views about this (and the median age of AAAvidja/comics is young adult to middle age to be influenced by portrayals). 

The conversation has become to “I want to cater to ME!”. But some still confusing representation with cultural provincialism :

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dexerto-silent-hill-f-actors-become-tourism-ambassadors-for-the-town-that-inspired-the-games-setting-yes-finally-silent-hill-is-big-in-japan.1436467/

And all it took was setting it in a Japanese town couched in Japanese history, mythology, and culture

 LOL!

Representation matters, right?

[Jansen]

Noticing a growing trend on here of men deflecting accusations of sexism in media with "Oh so if it were a MAN it wouldn't be SEXIST??" like yes. Congrats on understanding one of the most basic aspects of sexist portayals of women.

Not really sure if anyone should care what the "women "of era think