Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/highguard-didnt-get-review-bombed-by-an-angry-mob-looking-at-the-data.1440235/

Interesting, now perform the same analysis on relooted

[Snoopy]

I just thought they were copying Megan. It never occurred to me it was pedo bait until I saw Ree salivating  freaking out

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/highguard-didnt-get-review-bombed-by-an-angry-mob-looking-at-the-data.1440235/page-2#post-151528828

ERA recently is becoming "everything I don't like it's Hitler". It happens with Strangers Things also, if someone leaves a bad review they become a chud grifter.

"recently"

[benji]

Anyway:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-guardian-british-museum-removes-word-‘palestine’-from-some-displays.1440025/

Zionists are scum of the Earth and hopefully will one day be remembered the same way other genocidal factions were.

The explanation seems perfectly reasonable and is what Era is constantly demanding in all other instances, that the institution take current politics into account. Therefore showing the area as Palestine is not a historically neutral term to most visitors who are unaware of the field's usage, but instead making a modern day political claim and there's a more tolerant to other people's concerns way to display this.

Surely they would understand if a museum removed maps and language designating First Nations artifacts as being from AMERICA since that suggests the fascist nation's claim on the land (including 51st state Canada) even as it's also a historically neutral term for the continents.

Forget the bare feet and the makeup. I'm going to need everyone defending Capcom on this to explain to me what non-pedo reason there might be for giving a visible waist and hips to this pre-pubescent child. No, seriously. I really want to see what people come up with.


https://imgur.com/a/0TYzuQq


Like you guys don't understand how frustrating it is to see this blatant shit being rubbed in our faces and being told "nah dude, you're seeing things, you're hysterical, you're the pedo for even thinking about it, actually" by a bunch of men with zero stake in this other than wanting to look more "reasonable" than everyone else. And the idea that Capcom "wouldn't pander to pedos because it's not profitable" as if a good chunk of the anime industry isn't based on exactly that is just hysterical. Yes, pandering to pedophiles can be profitable. You're surprised by that?

...what's your stake in this?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-endorses-%E2%80%9Call-three-republicans%E2%80%9D-in-texas-senate-primary-as-voting-starts-tomorrow.1437784/#post-151438345

 User Banned (1 week): Perpetuating Misogynistic Slur; Don't Do It Again

It's so annoying how funny he is sometimes

Funny? I'm sorry what? It'll be fuckin hilarious when he has a stroke live. I'd pay to laugh in his face as it happens. What exactly is funny about this racist pedophile walking free?! I'll laugh if the journalist kicks him in the balls hard enough they come out his mouth and that isnt even 1% of what this shit stains deserves. Funny is the last thing that comes to mind for this vile cunt

You're on ERA. I can only assume you'd never support this guy but think about how acceptance has fallen generally that this is acceptable now. You called a pedophile funny and I figure you don't mean it that way but we CAN'T let the baseline fall like this. That's how the pedophiles intend to get away with it.

This isnt an attack on you BTW cause I can only assume you didn't mean it that way. But thats exactly the kind stuff we should be cautious of when theyre openly saying nobody cares about the epstein files and trying to move on

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/highguard-didnt-get-review-bombed-by-an-angry-mob-looking-at-the-data.1440235/page-2#post-151528828

ERA recently is becoming "everything I don't like it's Hitler". It happens with Strangers Things also, if someone leaves a bad review they become a chud grifter.

Why else would anyone do something I don't like?

[benji]

Actually, why would anyone think Highguard was getting review bombed (and specifically by chuds)? It's F2P and got a lot of attention. Call of Duty (the F2P launcher) has never been positive on Steam, the Battlefield REDSEC entry is lower than BF6, very few F2P titles in general have "very positive" or up scores on Steam like Destiny 2 or whatever else you look at. There's no barrier to entry so someone can just install it and play a bit and say "this sucks" and then delete it and write a review. (Or play thousands of hours then write a review about how it sucks now and they ruined it.)

Highguard's response was so bad that they added 5v5 after just two days. And that was something voiced in most of the early Steam reviews, that 3v3 meant the game was basically empty half a match.

edit: Just click on the F2P category on there:





Even "positive" ones have negative recent reviews:

[Uncle]

I feel like it isn't rocket science that that little robot girl was designed to appeal to the lolicons. :v Is era just now catching on? She's a little girl with farrah fawcett hair who the player character has to take care of. That's the dream of every lolicon in japan.

I think both things can be true

japan is creepy and puts little girl characters in everything because they can't resist and they know it cultivates a certain audience, everyone knows it's not totally innocent, the way that putting kids in an elder scrolls game is innocent, just there for realism's sake, compared to japan

but then if you're looking at the little girl and calling out specific character traits like "ugh look at her slutty little thighs, I can't believe they sexualized her like that" that makes you personally extremely sus

[benji]

Attacking Black women for speaking their truth and calling out white males for lying:

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[EaldNarche]

I feel like it isn't rocket science that that little robot girl was designed to appeal to the lolicons. :v Is era just now catching on? She's a little girl with farrah fawcett hair who the player character has to take care of. That's the dream of every lolicon in japan.

I think both things can be true

japan is creepy and puts little girl characters in everything because they can't resist and they know it cultivates a certain audience, everyone knows it's not totally innocent, the way that putting kids in an elder scrolls game is innocent, just there for realism's sake, compared to japan

but then if you're looking at the little girl and calling out specific character traits like "ugh look at her slutty little thighs, I can't believe they sexualized her like that" that makes you personally extremely sus

Yea, the analysis is weird for sure. I just think the idea that Japan doesn't know what they're doing with a character like that is naive even for era. Like they aren't complaining about the 1000 year old lolis in the burqa thread every other day

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/f-d-signifier-the-tyler-perry-video-an-all-in-one-analysis-and-critique.1440559/

4:08:34 

[benji]

She can't keep getting away with it.

[Boredfrom]

Eh… I seriously doubt it was designed for pedos in mind just for the fact that is a AAA game and most stores nuke games from orbit if there is any hint of this. Capcom likes money more than wasting half of a decade of development in a pedo gooner game. 

If anything, I feel someone correctly mentioned that they were going for M3GAN vibes

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/f-d-signifier-the-tyler-perry-video-an-all-in-one-analysis-and-critique.1440559/

4:08:34 

From the replies it doesn't sound like anything you couldn't read about on Tyler Perry's Wikipedia page.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/f-d-signifier-the-tyler-perry-video-an-all-in-one-analysis-and-critique.1440559/

4:08:34 

Who is F.D. Signifier and why should I care?
F.D. Signifier is a black American video essayist who specializes in analyzing black media (specifically black American media). He has a great voice and his channel comes highly recommended from myself and I'm sure others on Era, as I've seen his videos posted here and there on this site.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chinese-food-deliverers-in-sydney-were-considering-protesting-chinese-police-called-and-threatened-their-families-in-china.1438957/

Messofamoron:

Capitalism has killed more than 3 billion people. And I'm not the one bringing up the versus, so I agree.

He got topped:

Mao his death toll is around 40 mil people. The death toll of the Korean War is around 2 million. The Uyghur genocide is still ongoing. Trump is terrible and America has done terrible things but the "who's worse, China or America" really needs to stop

The 40 million estimate comes from the Great Leap forward and bear no bearing on a discussion on the negative effects and influence of China in the world at large as it was inflicted by the chinese goverment on the chinese people.

One of the biggest if not the biggest impact abroad was exposing the dangers of ideological extremism and centralized authoritarian control, shaping the world perceptions of Maoist China and communist regimes. US government would consider the result of that policy a net positive I guess.

Since you are mentioning internal conflicts/policies are you going to account for the almost 1 million deaths of the US civil war when you are comparing both countries? Are you going to account for the 8 million killings of native Americans from 1492 to 1900 as well?

The the 40 million deaths of the Great Leap forward are staggering, but it was "only" about 6.7% of the total chinese population at that time (around 670 million) while the 8 million killings of native Americans was about fucking 96% of the native American population. By the 1900s there were only about 250.000 native Americans left. Which one is worse? Just a rhetorical question, no need to answer.

In regards to the Korean war is China the only one responsible for the deaths in the conflict or the US led UNC share a bit of the blame? Funny how we are not even mentioning the origins of the conflict as one of the first proxy wars between the soviets and guess who? The americans.

What about the Vietnam war? Iraq war? Afghanistan? What about the coups in LATAM? What about the blood thirsty regimes instated and supported by the US on the middle east? Israel anyone? Forget about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the japanese started it /S.

Sure, China is not innocent as well I guess we should consider the Sino-Vietnamese war and...and what else? Border Conflicts with it's neighbors like India? Militarization of the South Chinese sea? Internal repression/violence against minorities? Those pesky chinese have not been involved in many military conflicts I'm afraid...

You are right about people needing to stop "who is worse, China or America?", I'll give you that. From my perspective both countries look bad to downright fucking horrible most of the time with a caveat that for the last 500 years Americans had way better PR spinning the narrative shaping the facts in a more positive light towards then.

Seems something like that is the only thing China cannot reliably build and export overseas nowadays.

Also:

What confuses me is why Chinese authorities are going after them over a work-related protest. Seems like the opposite of communism.

Almost as if the Chinese Communist Party isn't particularly communist.

These guys need to read their Lenin and Trotsky.  

In China, protests require submitting an application to the government asking for approval, and any application deemed "harmful to national stability" will not be approved. In practice, over the past few decades, only a handful of diplomatic protest against the US and Japan(and maybe S.Korea too? I forgot) have been permitted.

Please, take another look at how you started your post:

"The 40 million estimate comes from the Great Leap forward and bear no bearing on a discussion on the negative effects and influence of China in the world at large as it was inflicted by the chinese goverment on the chinese people."

If China's crimes against its own citizens are irrelevant when discussing China's negative impact on the world, then by the same logic, one could also say that the crimes committed by the US against its indigenous peoples and ethnic minorities within its own borders also are irrelevant when discussing US's negative impact on the world. But I imagine if you were to apply the same argument to the US, you'd immediately realize how deeply offensive it would be, wouldn't you?

I won't waste time dissecting the rest of your post, which is riddled with false equivalencies. Many have already pointed out that people shouldn't derail the discussion further, yet you persist in doing so with wall of text.

The mistake you're making is one many fall into during these whataboutism debates. People frequently speak as if Chinese lives do not matter. As if the sole purpose of Chinese people is to make cheap product that please the world's consumer needs.

The same people frequently praise the Chinese government's achievements, such as reducing poverty and increasing literacy rates, yet simultaneously downplay the atrocities committed by the Chinese government against its own people. This is all too common.

I used to be shocked by how widespread this attitude is, but I've grown used to it now.

This guy tries so hard to get them to wake up about his own country.  

In China, protests require submitting an application to the government asking for approval, and any application deemed "harmful to national stability" will not be approved. In practice, over the past few decades, only a handful of diplomatic protest against the US and Japan(and maybe S.Korea too? I forgot) have been permitted.

Such a bizarre, dumb rule.

 

And guess who's been questioned multiple times but has yet to return to the thread:

Capitalism has killed more than 3 billion people.

Where does this number come from?

Capitalism has killed more than 3 billion people. And I'm not the one bringing up the versus, so I agree.

3 billion what?

Capitalism has killed more than 3 billion people. And I'm not the one bringing up the versus, so I agree.

Bullshit. And China is as capitalist as anyone else.

Where does this number come from?

Directly from their ass.

Capitalism has killed more than 3 billion people

Can we get a source for this please. Global life expectancy has done nothing but rise over the last ~150 years, infant mortality has plummeted, etc. What were all those people dying of before capitalism, too many hugs?

Capitalism has killed more than 3 billion people. And I'm not the one bringing up the versus, so I agree.

1.) Where did you get that number?
2.) Modern china is extremely capitalistic and personifies the worst parts of capitalism even worse than America does.

Messofanego has made nearly 40 posts since including as recently as an hour ago.

[Uncle]

Eh… I seriously doubt it was designed for pedos in mind just for the fact that is a AAA game and most stores nuke games from orbit if there is any hint of this.

so what's the excuse for things like the 13 year old girl in xenoblade chronicles x



"not an AAA game so it's ok?"

[Boredfrom]

Eh… I seriously doubt it was designed for pedos in mind just for the fact that is a AAA game and most stores nuke games from orbit if there is any hint of this.

so what's the excuse for things like the 13 year old girl in xenoblade chronicles x



"not an AAA game so it's ok?"

 

Was 10 years ago and was censored in the west? I doubt that is not censored in the remaster.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-there-a-greater-slang-term-than-dude.1440019/#post-151516117

Bro cannot compete with the gender neutral power of dude

It's only gender neutral until you ask a straight man how many dudes he's slept with.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-there-a-greater-slang-term-than-dude.1440019/page-2#post-151524787

Regardless of personal sentiment on the terms, it is interesting how it's often terms originally for men that are impressed upon everyone as being totally gender neutral now, between dude and now bro. I see 'boys' used to refer to a team of both men and women in streaming spaces as well. Women are kinda just expected to suck it up and deal when I don't think the same would fly anywhere close to the same degree were men to start being called 'sis' and 'girl' across the board.

It's not a big thing. I use dude with my cis women friends and vice versa, though I like it less when a guy uses it toward me. It's just something I've noticed for a while now and continues to happen lol.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-there-a-greater-slang-term-than-dude.1440019/page-3#post-151531699

Really a hell of a thing to insist that dude is a gender neutral when it's regularly used to harass and misgender trans women. Speaking as a trans woman. It can certainly be used by and towards women affirmingly in certain contexts but it is far from having shed those masculine connotations.

And yes. Sure. High school girls might call each other "bro" sometimes. But I would strongly recommend against presuming that non-men are going to be OK with being addressed that way. Ask first. Know the person and where their lines are drawn. It's not that hard.

This is a great post by the way. Sums up a lot of my thoughts on the matter. Women in gaming culture being called "dude", "boys", "bro" is most often something imposed upon us. That doesn't inherently mean that it's unwanted but do consider how you'd feel if the roles were reversed. If you're a guy in this thread asserting that "dude" is now perceived as completely androgynous, I highly recommend asking some damn women. Very few women I know actively enjoy being addressed this way (though, again, I understand that many do and that's OK too).

Edit: Another overlooked aspect of this is that just because some women call each other dude, that does not necessarily mean that they are OK with being called dude by people outside of their social circle, particularly men, similar to what Kyuuji mentioned.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-there-a-greater-slang-term-than-dude.1440019/page-3#post-151537324

Some of us non-men really really dont like being called dude.

[Boredfrom]

"not an AAA game so it's ok?"

 

Don’t put words in my mouth.

[kaleidoscopium]

I swear there was a whole constructive drama blowup over if its transphobic to call everyone Dude at some point. Most people said no, but the usual suspects got many people banned over it

[Uncle]

Eh… I seriously doubt it was designed for pedos in mind just for the fact that is a AAA game and most stores nuke games from orbit if there is any hint of this.

so what's the excuse for things like the 13 year old girl in xenoblade chronicles x

[i mg]https://i.imgur.com/5Dhcs4H.png[/img]

"not an AAA game so it's ok?"

 

Was 10 years ago and was censored in the west? I doubt that is not censored in the remaster.

your argument was "I doubt it was designed for pedos," not "it's fine because it will be censored in the west."

was it designed for pedos in japan or not? you said storefronts would pull games that have this kind of content

"not an AAA game so it's ok?"

 
Don’t put words in my mouth.

that is not what that is

that is looking at what you stated and coming up with a potential example response, which is why it ended with a question mark

if you said you only eat eggs, pizza, or mac and cheese every day, and I say "what is it today, is it pizza?" that is not putting words in your mouth

[benji]

I'm more willing to ascribe it to an unthinking niche cultural acceptance of loli imagery than that anyone deliberately targets "pedophiles", partly because I'm willing to entertain the idea that some subset of the loli appreciator population denies being pedophiles. Melody Shreds, for example, despite regularly retweeting loli-adjacent literal pornography.

And while I had to reference him to insult him, I don't think he's actually part of this group, which I imagine finds the "aesthetic" of loli appealing but in a mostly non-sexual way. (This is not to say that it's necessarily acceptable even in this way but I think the distinction is relevant.) In anime circles it seems very accepted so I can imagine that in Japan's nerd circles that would predominate in video gaming they basically don't even think about it as long as it's not too overtly pornographic. Xenoblade seems to be pushing up against that, but the other example they're currently raging about is laughable. They're reading their own fetishization of "hidden" waists and hips into it.

[Uncle]

I agree with that, lots of autistic people don't understand that you can't just paper over any statement with "ok seriously guys, from an objective aesthetic point of view" without coming across as creepy, even if they really and truly only see it in an aesthetic sense, they don't comprehend societal zero tolerance

[benji]

Another thing to consider is that some of these games might just take a regular female body model and scale it down. I could see that explaining the "waists" and "hips" of the robot girl. After they enlarged the head they didn't think about it because she's clothed. If nobody on the team fetishizes that (or bare feet) and starts immediately masturbating to it in the office, you wouldn't know right away.

[benji]

I'm more willing to ascribe it to an unthinking niche cultural acceptance of loli imagery than that anyone deliberately targets "pedophiles", partly because I'm willing to entertain the idea that some subset of the loli appreciator population denies being pedophiles. Melody Shreds, for example, despite regularly retweeting loli-adjacent literal pornography.

And while I had to reference him to insult him, I don't think he's actually part of this group, which I imagine finds the "aesthetic" of loli appealing but in a mostly non-sexual way. (This is not to say that it's necessarily acceptable even in this way but I think the distinction is relevant.) In anime circles it seems very accepted so I can imagine that in Japan's nerd circles that would predominate in video gaming they basically don't even think about it as long as it's not too overtly pornographic. Xenoblade seems to be pushing up against that, but the other example they're currently raging about is laughable. They're reading their own fetishization of "hidden" waists and hips into it.

Another thing to consider is that some of these games might just take a regular female body model and scale it down. I could see that explaining the "waists" and "hips" of the robot girl. After they enlarged the head they didn't think about it because she's clothed. If nobody on the team fetishizes that (or bare feet) and starts immediately masturbating to it in the office, you wouldn't know right away.

Psychopath Reddit poster defending pedophilia and Trump yet again.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/canada-poliera-ot-2-the-north-remembers.149085/page-795#post-151539685

Not to mention China actually does have a ton of problems so it wasn't all just made up. The issue is that the "concern" over it is made up.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/canada-poliera-ot-2-the-north-remembers.149085/page-795#post-151539685

I'm a fuck China person too, but how many jobs and billions were tossed because Canada decided to abandon China in with the Obama years? Like I get that we're in the realm of "lesser of two evils" all the time now, but if that's the case, we lost over a decade of trade with a country that we'd eventually cozy up to anyway.

Hindsight 20/20 takes are literally worthless.

At the time I thought the Hauwei ban was bullshit, as was the BYD ban/tariffs (and to a lesser extent the TikTok pseudo-ban). But I'm just some guy. lol
The west spent more than a decade making them the boogieman, culminating with Kung Flu of 2020.

Predominately white nations are always going to demonize any none white nation that doesn't bend to thier will. Canada is not going to be the outlier when the entire western establishment is anti-china. Not to mention China actually does have a ton of problems so it wasn't all just made up. The issue is that the "concern" over it is made up. It's just like how the wars are framed as humanitarian savior situations when that is never an actual concern. How we yap about dictators but Saudi Arabia has been a friend for decades and have horrible human rights. It's a hypocritical mess of bullshit and always has been. I am relieved that the facade has been dispensed with. The genocide is Gaza and continued support for Israel has just totally erased the west's moral larp.

Why do these dudes think Canada cut off trade with China? It joined with the rest of the West in sanctioning specific Chinese enterprises. And had it not, it would have been cut off from the rest of the West which was 95% of their trade. Same situation as if Canada unilaterally ended the sanctions on Russia.

edit: Pictured, Canada abandoning trade with China during the Obama years:

[Boredfrom]

so what's the excuse for things like the 13 year old girl in xenoblade chronicles x

[i mg]https://i.imgur.com/5Dhcs4H.png[/img]

"not an AAA game so it's ok?"

 

Was 10 years ago and was censored in the west? I doubt that is not censored in the remaster.

your argument was "I doubt it was designed for pedos," not "it's fine because it will be censored in the west."

was it designed for pedos in japan or not? you said storefronts would pull games that have this kind of content

"not an AAA game so it's ok?"

 
Don’t put words in my mouth.

that is not what that is

that is looking at what you stated and coming up with a potential example response, which is why it ended with a question mark

if you said you only eat eggs, pizza, or mac and cheese every day, and I say "what is it today, is it pizza?" that is not putting words in your mouth

[Boredfrom]

I agree with that, lots of autistic people don't understand that you can't just paper over any statement with "ok seriously guys, from an objective aesthetic point of view" without coming across as creepy, even if they really and truly only see it in an aesthetic sense, they don't comprehend societal zero tolerance

  

(Calling you out from your free speech and contrarian mentality, not because the current discussion about loli shit)