Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Locked by Bitchdubs 

People with Tourette's live a life that most of us would have nightmares about. At any moment a tic could occur, not unlike a sneeze, but the difference is that a sneeze doesn't hurt anyone.

This is a complicated discussion. We should be able to acknowledge that this man has literally zero control over his tics and that they do not represent him as a person, while also acknowledging that his tic was incredibly harmful and hurtful to the people who were on the receiving end of it.

A person with Tourette's is not the only person who suffers as a result of it, the people around them do as well and that is why it is such a horrible condition. The man did nothing wrong, he basically sneezed, but that doesn't mean the people on the receiving end aren't allowed to feel the way they do about what came out instead of a sneeze.

Yes, the man has literally no control over it; yes, we should be understanding of his condition; but, in the end, we are all human and words like this cut deep. They revive old trauma and make those on the receiving end feel less than human.

Given people seem to be unable to acknowledge the complicated nature of the discussion, we are locking the thread.

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THERE IS AN INVADER ON THE FORUMS

[who is ted danson?]

BENJI

[who is ted danson?]

HELP

[Propagandhim]

The most "dehumanizing" thing about all of this is the admission that you can't control your emotions and response to something that is contextually meaningless.  You're admitting you're closer to an animal working on instinct that a reasonable human being.  There's no reason to hear this as anything but a guttural, involuntary, noise.  ....and yet, I'm on Nepenthe's side.  Which is why I can't read comic books anymore without losing control.

[HaughtyFrank]

Oh I assumed you had partial ownership of the site. This sounds more like what we used to call super mods, which is not a very thankful job. I retract my statement then.

Even if I owned this place, the amount of people I would have to perm to make this a pro-Black/anti-imperial space would essentially kill the site.

Why are you even a mod?  

You hate the site so much but you cannot quit it.

Isn't it funny how "modwhining" results in instant bans but accusing the entire user base of being anti-black is totally fine? Not to mention that the anti-blackness in this case is explaining that tourette isn't controllable

[Uncle]

Locked by Bitchdubs 

This is a complicated discussion. We should be able to acknowledge that this man has literally zero control over his tics and that they do not represent him as a person, while also acknowledging that his tic was incredibly harmful and hurtful to the people who were on the receiving end of it.

I genuinely do not believe this for one second

they probably cocked an eyebrow and went "haha oh shit" in their heads and it will be entirely forgotten in less than a week

they didn't feel lesser, if anything they rubbed their hands together feeling superior because they knew this incident gives them carte blanche to pretend to have been harmed for a while

[Lonewulfeus]

We nearly missed this absolute beauty of a post too

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tourettes-activist-shouts-n-word-at-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-during-baftas-telecast.1443331/page-9#post-151722232

My job is to moderate the reports received in cooperation with the rest of the team and other administrative functions like handling tickets and account issues. It is not to force forum culture, something which I as an individual cannot do even if I wanted to because, at the end of the day, this is a forum filled primarily with white, middle and upper class neoliberal Western chauvanists and raging fans of capitalism. Anti-Blackness is fundamentally locked in due to the demographics and politics involved, and there is literally nothing I as an individual can do to fix that, nor do I take other people's racism on as my responsibility. You all are individually responsible for fixing your own politics.

This is factually untrue.  Your decisions on what subjects are ban worthy and who to ban can, and very much is, nurturing the very forum culture you purport to hate.  The very next sentence also calls the forum of resetera.com, as a whole, racist and misogynistic.  What happened to the nazi table analogy Nep?  If you continue to stay at that racist hellhole you must be fine with it, hell not only are you merely a member, you are an Admin laboring to uphold the values of capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy.  Of course no one on resetera will point out this rank hypocrisy because that would just immediately get them banned.  But any other member making blanket statements to the same effect would be permed immediately.  For resetera your continued adminship is anathema to a well run forum, we here at thebire thank you for being absolutely unhinged and giving us these great insights to laugh at. 

[Boredfrom]

Locked by Bitchdubs 

This is a complicated discussion. We should be able to acknowledge that this man has literally zero control over his tics and that they do not represent him as a person, while also acknowledging that his tic was incredibly harmful and hurtful to the people who were on the receiving end of it.

I genuinely do not believe this for one second

they probably cocked an eyebrow and went "haha oh shit" in their heads and it will be entirely forgotten in less than a week

they didn't feel lesser, if anything they rubbed their hands together feeling superior because they knew this incident gives them carte blanche to pretend to have been harmed for a while

[DavidCroquet]

What I like about this discourse is that simultaneously you got people arguing on twitter how it's ableist to expect that people shouldn't pee on the subway

"a deep, pervasive belief that ppl who appear out of control, incoherent, or in psychiatric crisis are not trustworthy". 



If she is out there cosigning loans for these people, then I rescind my snarky emote.

[malfoyking]

Locked by Bitchdubs 

This is a complicated discussion. We should be able to acknowledge that this man has literally zero control over his tics and that they do not represent him as a person, while also acknowledging that his tic was incredibly harmful and hurtful to the people who were on the receiving end of it.

I genuinely do not believe this for one second

they probably cocked an eyebrow and went "haha oh shit" in their heads and it will be entirely forgotten in less than a week

they didn't feel lesser, if anything they rubbed their hands together feeling superior because they knew this incident gives them carte blanche to pretend to have been harmed for a while

You're legitimately a fucking asshole its insane. You create your own nonsensical scenarios so you can prove how you are... just like the era assholes you love making fun off. What a garbage comment. 

Two things can be true. It's true that the guy has Tourette's and couldn't control what he said. It's also true that what he said is still fucked up, and you don't get to tell Lindo and MBJ to get over it, bro. Nuance. But then again, this is the internet, so I'm not surprised.

[Keetongu]

I don't blame the guy with Tourette's, it's a tough condition to have, almost as rough as the anxiety I see in my patients when they come by to buy a cherry coke and a birthday card. I do however blame the entire white race for existing and not yet being exterminated for their evil. I'm a reasonable person.

I have coupons for that Cherry Coke and birthday card I hope that's all right

Oh sure thing, two coupons at once is no problem. I'll serve you up the butcher's special, cherry coke with bleach in it coming right up. Good luck washing that out.
 

[HaughtyFrank]

Locked by Bitchdubs 

This is a complicated discussion. We should be able to acknowledge that this man has literally zero control over his tics and that they do not represent him as a person, while also acknowledging that his tic was incredibly harmful and hurtful to the people who were on the receiving end of it.

I genuinely do not believe this for one second

they probably cocked an eyebrow and went "haha oh shit" in their heads and it will be entirely forgotten in less than a week

they didn't feel lesser, if anything they rubbed their hands together feeling superior because they knew this incident gives them carte blanche to pretend to have been harmed for a while

Nah, I think it can be hurtful that even when you're at the height of your career and achieved things bigger than you could ever dream of you get a reminder that this still doesn't protect you from getting called the n-word. In that sense I feel bad for Michael B Jordan and Delroy Lindo. But I also imagine they're understanding enough that this wasn't intentional and controllable by the person who did it. It's simply an unfortunate situation

[Taco Bell Tower]

The criticism of moderation has nothing to do with what me and that poster were discussing. This is once again another deflection. But I will nonetheless indulge it:

So far, there were three moderator actions logged on this thread: my initial lock, and two bans. The two bans were marked as trolling and insensitivity in the banner, but they were ostensibly for people being dismissive jackasses to Johnson's disability.

Literally no one has been actioned for racism, not even the people I've been arguing with. 

We simply told people to take it into account within the bounds of discussion with the staff post. And that, in itself, has been considered ableism.

And we wonder why some Black members are upset and feel dismissed!

I have no issue however with looking over some of the rejections and new reports. But in turn I reject the claim racism was given priority over the ableism in terms of staff action.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/french-rapper-investigated-for-call-to-hang-white-people.71646/page-6#post-13234079

[Boredfrom]

Discrimination is hurtful, even if unintentional. Micheal B Jordan looked affected by it even if warned beforehand. I dislike the lack of empathy from the BCT community at ERA, but yeah it hurts.

Real talk, maybe this should be a moment of introspection from lefty social media and think how they deal genuinely disabled people and the problems of how people actually understand intersectionality.

[Cheers]

Locked by Bitchdubs 

I genuinely do not believe this for one second

they probably cocked an eyebrow and went "haha oh shit" in their heads and it will be entirely forgotten in less than a week

they didn't feel lesser, if anything they rubbed their hands together feeling superior because they knew this incident gives them carte blanche to pretend to have been harmed for a while

You're legitimately a fucking asshole its insane. You create your own nonsensical scenarios so you can prove how you are... just like the era assholes you love making fun off. What a garbage comment. 

Two things can be true. It's true that the guy has Tourette's and couldn't control what he said. It's also true that what he said is still fucked up, and you don't get to tell Lindo and MBJ to get over it, bro. Nuance. But then again, this is the internet, so I'm not surprised.

Nothing like white men telling us how we should feel. 

Even better when they say we are faking to feel superior… somehow. 

That’s right uncle. Put those uppity negroes in their place!

[Propagandhim]

Part of being an adult is realizing you can control your reaction to things and not giving power to other people that call you those things.  Didn't Nepenthe tell us this when she said that calling people bald, short men, with tiny dicks is not a big deal?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

[Cheers]

Part of being an adult is realizing you can control your reaction to things and not giving power to other people that call you those things.  Didn't Nepenthe tell us this when she said that calling people bald, short men, with tiny dicks is not a big deal?

Yeah therapy is cheap and damn near free! 

[Lonewulfeus]

Part of being an adult is realizing you can control your reaction to things and not giving power to other people that call you those things.  Didn't Nepenthe tell us this when she said that calling people bald, short men, with tiny dicks is not a big deal?

Mama Mia!  I eatta da pizza?

[Cheers]

Oh I assumed you had partial ownership of the site. This sounds more like what we used to call super mods, which is not a very thankful job. I retract my statement then.

Even if I owned this place, the amount of people I would have to perm to make this a pro-Black/anti-imperial space would essentially kill the site.

Why are you even a mod?  

You hate the site so much but you cannot quit it.

I wish someone would ask her that. Why she's providing all this free labor to a site she hates 95% of the posters on. If anyone is lurking here with an account, please be brave for me and ask. You'll be reincarnated as a lotus flower after you get banned.

It’s not free. Admins get paid.

[Propagandhim]

Part of being an adult is realizing you can control your reaction to things and not giving power to other people that call you those things.  Didn't Nepenthe tell us this when she said that calling people bald, short men, with tiny dicks is not a big deal?

Mama Mia!  I eatta da pizza?

    Treating people like shit is bad behavior.  Most normal people don't do it.  Most normal people don't treat anyone like shit because of arbitrary characteristics because it doesn't make sense.  But if you go around living life being destabilized by what the world's cruelest, stupidest people say, you're making it hard for yourself for no reason.  You can absolutely control your reaction to this stuff.  It shouldn't be controversial to say that you control how 'harmful' this stuff is in your life.  I think it's very sad that people are behaving like they're at the behest of the next worst person's impulses.  Who says?


wait


what the fuck did you just say to me.  no seriously what the fuck did you just say.  i'll fucking kill you

[malfoyking]

Not a fight. Just sick of certain a-holes here. urgh. What a shitty situation all around.

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Part of being an adult is realizing you can control your reaction to things and not giving power to other people that call you those things.  Didn't Nepenthe tell us this when she said that calling people bald, short men, with tiny dicks is not a big deal?

Mama Mia!  I eatta da pizza?

    Treating people like shit is bad behavior.  Most normal people don't do it.  Most normal people don't treat anyone like shit because of arbitrary characteristics because it doesn't make sense.  But if you go around living life being destabilized by what the world's cruelest, stupidest people say, you're making it hard for yourself for no reason.  You can absolutely control your reaction to this stuff.  It shouldn't be controversial to say that you control how 'harmful' this stuff is in your life.  I think it's very sad that people are behaving like they're at the behest of the next worst person's impulses.  Who says?


wait


what the fuck did you just say to me.  no seriously what the fuck did you just say.  i'll fucking kill you

You missed the discussion about how Anglos pronounce Mario.

[Propagandhim]

You're gonna have to give me at least 40 minutes Boredfrom, I can't read a fucking word right now.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Not a fight. Just sick of certain a-holes here. urgh. What a shitty situation all around.

For the record, I'm cheering not complaing.

[Lonewulfeus]

You're gonna have to give me at least 40 minutes Boredfrom, I can't read a fucking word right now.

Just did your hair?  Got some grease in your eyes? Got him again!

[Propagandhim]

You're gonna have to give me at least 40 minutes Boredfrom, I can't read a fucking word right now.

Just did your hair?  Got some grease in your eyes? Got him again!

I'm not mad at Lonewulf.  It's not his fault.  I'm mad at everyone else on the forum that's just watching and coming up with excuses for this.  "Oh he doesn't have feelings, he's made of olive oil."  "Oh he can't understand English, it's fine."  Like, where did you all even get the epicureanist knowledge of olive oil in the first place?

[Boredfrom]

I was alright with EVO France/EU, that made sense and didn't 'dilute' the brand much if at all. But this just seems a bit much...

Because there's no distinction between the events (so far at least) you could technically start 2027 with 0 Evo wins, and end it with 9 (playing just one game) putting you up the likes of Justin Wongs entire career. That just doesn't seem right with me?

They don't really care. They just want to sportswash as much as they possibly can before tanking Evo and selling it for whatever scraps are left after their purpose is fulfilled for the Saudi Government

I mean, they are stating to care after some of their Mega projects become failures.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/evo-series-expands-5-new-events-to-south-america-china-saudi-arabia-morocco.1444174/

[Lonewulfeus]

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You're gonna have to give me at least 40 minutes Boredfrom, I can't read a fucking word right now.

Just did your hair?  Got some grease in your eyes? Got him again!

I'm not mad at Lonewulf.  It's not his fault.  I'm mad at everyone else on the forum that's just watching and coming up with excuses for this.  "Oh he doesn't have feelings, he's made of olive oil."  "Oh he can't understand English, it's fine."  Like, where did you all even get the epicureanist knowledge of olive oil in the first place?

Spanish missionaries apparently.