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They're just innocent freedom fighters. They're new to this. They'll get the beheadings right eventually.
ZeroVag wrote:By the way, I want to point out the most important part of this story.

Gao's postproduction work on She-Hulk helped Marvel see that it would be helpful for its shows to have a creative throughline from start to finish.

She-Hulk was so good that it showed Marvel Studios what their TV shows should be.

Sorry, angry YouTubers!

omfg
https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-fires-directors-writers-of-daredevil-born-again.773666/post-113305508
Wait, Marvel didn't know it'd be "helpful" to know where their plots would wind up?
I love how that thread is completely ignoring that the new WGA contract is forcing these changes on Marvel tv shows.
ZeoVGM wrote:
Quote:Yeah that kills me. It also kills me so many here kept saying absolutely nothing is wrong w the MCU. Nothing at all. Like I don’t have eyes and a brain.

Quite the strawman you created there. Virtually no one was saying that. The overwhelming number of MCU fans on Era have criticized numerous aspects of the past couple years.

What you might be referring to are when fans push back against the idea that the MCU has been some sort of garbage fire since Endgame, as if the majority of films and series they've released haven't been good or great.
ZeoVGM wrote:
Quote:But that's exactly it. The majority has been bland and instantly forgettable.

Nope, that's not true. The majority has been good or great.

Weirdly he ignored this to go on fighting with someone who said She-Hulk's ending sucked:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-fires-directors-writers-of-daredevil-born-again.773666/post-113341967 wrote:
ZeoVGM wrote:You forgot to quote the person I was replying to as well, who did the literal same thing you're describing I did in response.
Are they though?

Let me explain: I've been lurking on this forum for over two years and in almost every MCU thread where a person manifests a negative opinion about one or multiple movies in the MCU, I see you often coming at them negating their opinions. Why even bother if I may ask? Do you think you're going to change their mind? Let them have an opinion. It's less exhausting for you too!
If everything was so great at Disney-Marvel they wouldn't have to consider the purchase of EA as a hail mary to climb out of the hole they dug for themselves lol
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What happened to shower elf not allowing politics threads?
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ZeoVGM wrote:
Quote:Yeah that kills me. It also kills me so many here kept saying absolutely nothing is wrong w the MCU. Nothing at all. Like I don’t have eyes and a brain.

Quite the strawman you created there. Virtually no one was saying that. The overwhelming number of MCU fans on Era have criticized numerous aspects of the past couple years.

What you might be referring to are when fans push back against the idea that the MCU has been some sort of garbage fire since Endgame, as if the majority of films and series they've released haven't been good or great.
ZeoVGM wrote:
Quote:But that's exactly it. The majority has been bland and instantly forgettable.

Nope, that's not true. The majority has been good or great.

Weirdly he ignored this to go on fighting with someone who said She-Hulk's ending sucked:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-fires-directors-writers-of-daredevil-born-again.773666/post-113341967 wrote:
ZeoVGM wrote:You forgot to quote the person I was replying to as well, who did the literal same thing you're describing I did in response.
Are they though?

Let me explain: I've been lurking on this forum for over two years and in almost every MCU thread where a person manifests a negative opinion about one or multiple movies in the MCU, I see you often coming at them negating their opinions. Why even bother if I may ask? Do you think you're going to change their mind? Let them have an opinion. It's less exhausting for you too!

Come on guys, whose alt is that? 😂
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Comedy expert DESTROYS Chevy Chase
ReplyButtonSmasher wrote:He fell down on SNL a lot! Clearly this means he is the godfather of comedy. Or something.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/joel-mchale-responds-to-chevy-chase-comments-on-%E2%80%98community%E2%80%99-cast-%E2%80%98no-one-was-keeping-you-there%E2%80%A6-the-feeling%E2%80%99s-mutual-bud.774176/post-113360504
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It's true, you ignorant slut, Chevy Chase never did anything in comedy but pratfalls as Gerald Ford.
(10-12-2023, 10:53 PM)LoverOfCycles wrote: What happened to shower elf not allowing politics threads?

Rules (and shower etiquette) don't apply to Adolf Malka and he's currently carrying out a Final Solution on anyone who disagrees with him.

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"Go get gassed". Gross loser.
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Quote:But yeah prepare for the shitty narrative to come at full force.

Blue Beetle and this are going to be seen absolute wins for the assholes who want every diverse hero out

Quote:The worst thing about this is that executives are definitely going to take the wrong lessons, I fear we might see less diverse superhero movies

Quote:The VICIOUSNESS this film and Blue Beetle have gotten is communicating very clearly that "the problem" is the new diverse heroes . What matters is the F4 and the (90's/Fox White) X-Men.

No one cares about anyone else, and that's EXACTLY the same talking points chuds use and weaponize

Quote:The fucking chuds are licking their lips right about now.

They also lowballed GOTG 3’s box office numbers as well so hopefully it’s the same result for the Marvels

Quote:The important thing is that cinema will be saved. Next time diverse folk will just have to justify their existence in film harder to be considered true cinema and given a pass.

And that will for sure happen once glorious kino returns once Super hero movies are dead

*Looks at tracking for FNAF*

Oh.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-ot3-is-this-canon-lgbtqia-lives-matter.523146/page-105

The marvel bros already freaking out over The Marvels is hilarious to watch.
They don't understand that it was they themselves that created this fallacy that the quality of the movie doesn't matter and any success is directly related to representation. So now if this movie flops it can only mean that women and poc don't give a shit about seeing a female and poc superheroes.
Quote:What you might be referring to are when fans push back against the idea that the MCU has been some sort of garbage fire since Endgame, as if the majority of films and series they've released haven't been good or great.

Doge
(10-12-2023, 11:09 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote:
Quote:The worst thing about this is that executives are definitely going to take the wrong lessons, I fear we might see less diverse superhero movies
They post this one a lot in these kinds of threads but I still don't understand it. Is this just one of those things they repeat endlessly without ever thinking about it? 

If executives are forcing representation for reasons unconcerned with financial interests then failure won't convince them otherwise. If they're doing it because they think it will be successful and it's not, then they aren't taking the "wrong" lesson.

This is aside from the fact that they think corporate suits are going to say "OKAY NO MORE DARKIES" from a single weak outing with nobody actors when there's major movie stars of color in movies all the time and have been for decades.
I don't think they really grasp that the Black Panther films have been successful because they were different in ways beyond the skin color of the characters.

Nepenthe especially does not grasp this, hence why she thinks the first one was the first movie ever made for Black people.

Ironically, it leans on an exoticized fictional African society that erases real world distinctions and fetishizes this based on Western stereotypes. Which, in theory, would be highly problematic. Thankfully, Disney.

Which makes Nepenthe's objection to it, Killmonger being a villain, even more better. She's so arrogantly and proudly dumb. lol
I remember Blue Beetle as Jaime Reyes was way before Miles Morales and Kamala Khan, so dunno why he is associated with the modern diversity heroes push outside the minority heroes cultural war.

I think DCEU box offices turmoil (massive and archaic mismanagement that sounds like Gunn will not be even able to escape) are also quite different to Marvel super hero oversaturation and Disney tendency to deflect criticism with the flag of progress.
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(10-12-2023, 11:36 PM)benji wrote: I don't think they really grasp that the Black Panther films have been successful because they were different in ways beyond the skin color of the characters.

Nepenthe especially does not grasp this, hence why she thinks the first one was the first movie ever made for Black people.

Exactly. Compare the first Black Panter film with the first Doctor Strange. While they had similarities, Dr Strange is such a painful super hero film by the numbers.
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Blue Beetle, like Batgirl, started as a straight-to-streaming movie. Warner wasn't really betting on these, they were testing the waters. They apparently thought highly enough of Blue Beetle to bump it up to theaters but then Zaslav came in and with his evil aura Latinxes clearly reacted by refusing to turn out and reward his white supremacist plot. It's not that this was never really a blockbuster featuring a beloved but lower tier character, it's clearly the simmering race war under the surface of everything, as always.
(10-12-2023, 10:26 PM)benji wrote: Wait, Marvel didn't know it'd be "helpful" to know where their plots would wind up?

Also known as, "The Star Wars method"...
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Actually, forget Blue Beetle. Why is nobody mentioning the DCEU's $200+ million budget bomb starring a person of color set in the Middle East? Is it because it was ResetERA.com who were angry at, and celebrated the failure of, that film?

edit: Should we forget their glee at the failure of and viciousness towards the DCEU's other massive budget failure starring a non-binary ethnic Jew oppressed by the white supremacist police state too?
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imagine intentionally sucking black joy out of the theater by going to see any of these films.
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(10-12-2023, 11:59 PM)Propagandhim wrote: imagine intentionally sucking black joy out of the theater by going to see any of these films.
The least we can do is not harm Black and brown bodies by being in the same room as them activating their historical spiritual trauma. 🙏
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Presented without comment

https://www.resetera.com/threads/some-of-yall-are-really-funny.774281/
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Most of the relevant posts are hidden, so I can only guess, but it appears that the "slutshame videogame women" thread is having a crisis of faith because sometimes they actually like sexy outfits

Quote:I love Lulu from Final Fantasy X. It's very obviously a sexualized? or sexy? outfit, with all the belts, and the cleavage, but I love it, and it definitely gives her a power as the femme fatale/silent "older" woman in the group that I love, and I think it's supper original. And I think that's okay? In terms of, you can like an individual outfit or design, and still understand that is part of a bigger, negative trend? Does this make sense? Other people have that with Bayonetta, which I find sexualized but not sexy at all (I'm not a tight bodysuit lesbian, sorry), and I think it's more faithful WHEN you can recognize that: you like it, and that it's part of a trope that has its negatives and is overall detrimental in many many occasions.

Quote:I don't think you should be ashamed of this dissonance(?).

Also, I kind of prefer Ada's dress from the original RE4 as well. Make of that what you will.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-293

"It's okay to like it as long as you shame everyone else for liking it and pretend that it harms humanity"
“ThatOneLesbian”

“Has a transflag and a trans character as Avatar”

Anything to just not admit “I’m a pervert and I don’t care”.
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Most of the relevant posts are hidden, so I can only guess, but it appears that the "slutshame videogame women" thread is having a crisis of faith because sometimes they actually like sexy outfits

Quote:I love Lulu from Final Fantasy X. It's very obviously a sexualized? or sexy? outfit, with all the belts, and the cleavage, but I love it, and it definitely gives her a power as the femme fatale/silent "older" woman in the group that I love, and I think it's supper original. And I think that's okay? In terms of, you can like an individual outfit or design, and still understand that is part of a bigger, negative trend? Does this make sense? Other people have that with Bayonetta, which I find sexualized but not sexy at all (I'm not a tight bodysuit lesbian, sorry), and I think it's more faithful WHEN you can recognize that: you like it, and that it's part of a trope that has its negatives and is overall detrimental in many many occasions.

Quote:I don't think you should be ashamed of this dissonance(?).

Also, I kind of prefer Ada's dress from the original RE4 as well. Make of that what you will.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-293

"It's okay to like it as long as you shame everyone else for liking it and pretend that it harms humanity"

Why not discuss this in the open? If they want it to be secret why not discuss it in PM or discords? Is clear they would like to be able to discuss this shit without people calling them hypocrites, but that would need to let other people enjoy shit.
AcademicSoucer wrote:Our grandchildren will call us names when they read nowadays tweets in history class under "Public reaction to the gaza genocide"

>Read nowadays tweets. lol

>Implying they will care given how much you guys care about actual historical context.
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Quote:I really do hope we as a society look back and scrutinize and condemn what is happening.

I hope so too, but not in the way you want.

“A horrible genocide ignited by an awful terrorist massacre that leftist organizations championed for some reason”.

Netanyahu is a scumbag but he probably also benefits when people act like anti Semitic idiots worldwide.

Quote:Absolutely disgusting what’s going on right now.

Free Palestine. Fuck Israel.
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Majority of the "why women criticize sexualized character designs" thread still consists of posters with Male in their bios Rolleyes
Quote:My parents are contacting me to avoid big crowds tomorrow because jihadist sympathizers are calling for mass global violence or something like that.

Is this a Fox News thing? Because I've very skeptical of anything of the sort happening on a mass scale, or even a tiny one.


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