Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marathon-steam-ccu-thread.1455688/page-54#post-152405767

I don't know what percentage of Bungie employees visit my particular Costco but

newsfeed

[Jansen]

I think the real story is that an artist for hire would turn down an offer because it might end up in a failed product.

Good thing AI will do that job instead!

[benji]

I dabble in a few disciplines: character animation, drawing, fanfiction, and fursuit building.

I would really love to have time to sit down and learn chiptune music.

Really building up her portfolio.

I really think more and more it's important to have a hobby where you create something. There's constant pushback keeping people from doing this. There's AI generating slop, people always pushing others to commodify their hobbies, and just the fact that art is being unappreciated and undervalued. People need to push back against all of that and just start creating. Doesn't matter if it's good. Sure you can go online and look at tutorials and see people doing better things than you probably ever will accomplish, but that's not the point. People were meant to make things, it feels like an intrinsic aspect of the human experience and I think we've lost touch with that.

Ideally for us, it won't be.

Prominent members or people who link their stuff for our enlightened critique:

I don't have a lot of time between working and caring for my parents, but I make it a point to stream as a VTuber at least twice a week.

https://www.twitch.tv/JBsCafe
https://www.youtube.com/@JBsCafe

I suppose it's debatable whether or not I'm actually "making" anything, but I like to think of it as performance art. It's a good mental release for me, anyway, and it forces time for me to interact with people outside of a professional or familial context even when I don't have the energy to leave home otherwise.

No matter what, it's important to have at least that, I think.

Fake Edit: Also, this feels close to self advertising, so let me know if I should get rid of links or stuff.

Agreed entirely!!!!!

Watercolors and markers
coloring books
customizing dolls
customizing stuffed animals
painting minis
collages (highly recommend OP)
digital art
journaling mixed with drawing
Sewing (but this hobby is mostly retired)

Artistic endeavors I want to try
needlefelting
embroidery
figure photography

I make fighting game video essays. It's a lot of work, but I enjoy doing it.

https://www.pressbuttonwin.com/
https://bsky.app/profile/pressbuttonwin.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/madmrbacon.bsky.social

I'm a memoirist and poet, most recently I had a poem published in a new queer publication called The Hitching Post.

Gotten into making homebrew D&D campaigns for the fam, going back and forth with my oldest son as DMs. I've stated before that if my electronic media interests get taken over by AI and shitty corporate greed, I'm perfectly happy doing this as a full time hobby.

I work in performing arts, whichonly a couple of days ago many on Resetera agreed is a form of AI slop-resistant creation that people don't care about because it doesn't have the worldwide gross the MCU has.

This was the last thing I ever drew, circa 1999.
https://bsky.app/profile/shadowofthevoid.bsky.social/post/3k6v6euetay2f

I made this shirt.

Well, I designed it. And then a friend of mine said he'd be happy to screenprint it onto tshirts for me.



I live in Minneapolis and after the ICE surge I was pretty pissed off, so I made a lot of art about it.

Get him Nintendo.  

I make games, or I write. Been working on this.

I wrote and self-published a sci-fi time travel novel a while back (https://amzn.to/2MN8HeV), and I'm currently working on a trilogy of books that I'm hopefully publishing later this year. And I sometimes tinker with some fairly simple animations and post them on youtube: www.youtube.com/@thatnorwegianthomas

https://www.youtube.com/@haruzulux

I'm a simple nonbinary foxcat creating videos of stuff like zelda and roguelikes and other indie games that interest me. I'm here to try to bring some hope to people and just have fun.

https://bsky.app/profile/haruzulux.bsky.social

I'm making my first game as a designer (+5 years as QA) with two friends. Is an incremental mining game and it has demo available on Steam. It's a little sad seeing how events like Steam Next Fest are absolutely flooded with games clearly made with IA but these are the times...

I'm a 3D Artist. I also make comics. https://www.webtoons.com/p/community/en/u/SamAlbro

Here are my demo reel and a proof of concept piece for an animation project I'm working on:

My primary hobby is writing, and if you've paid any mind to the creative writing challenge threads, you've probably seen my name there. I do my best with them! I then post them on a wordpress blog
https://inonum.wordpress.com

The really good ones i'll compile into collections to purchase. Sadly using Amazon as that's the easiest platform for it. I've a few novels there, too.

I also occasionally make bad metal music
https://inonum.bandcamp.com

Here's the thing about music these days: if you don't know how to play anything, there's a virtual instrument for that. I don't know theory and I don't know the craft, but I do what i can with the tools I have, and I really enjoy it. not all hobbies need to exist as an avenue for potential fame or fortune. Sometimes you just want to make a shitty death metal song about Revolutionary Girl: Utena.

Sometimes I paint minis and do a few other odds and ends to keep myself busy, but these are the big two.

I've been told by friends, relatives and people I've spoken to that I should try to get involved in voice overs and stuff. However I just face a sheer paralysis in trying to start, auditions are a daunting prospect (And I've never passed anything I've auditioned for, I don't cut the mustard).

Do the artists like Nepenthe really accept the people in that thread saying cooking?  

I have made like 25 albums and I like to program fun little stuff in python and javascript for fun

No mention of his porn or AI pornbot?  

And because I take it as a challenge when they do this:

I'm lowkey about it on here because I'm kind of a dumbass on this board at times and appreciate the anonymity, but I work full time in the game industry. And on the side…

https://www.mobygames.com/person/708352/adam-mcdonald/ (He was working on Perfect Dark for years before that got canned.)

[Besticus Maximus]

Son, on this forum, we are marathon likers. Your mother and I played Halo, your brother played destiny and we're all playing marathon on sunday and I'll hear no more of it 

[Boredfrom]

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-wife-of-9-years-wants-a-divorce-and-im-struggling-so-damn-much.1459723/page-2#post-152440069

My cousin did basically the same thing to her husband and completely destroyed the relationship with the lying. I still feel really bad for her husband but in the end he got majority custody of the kids. Her excuse was that she got married too young and realized she needed to experience love with other men. She felt that she missed out on life and wanted to experience more things like her friends have been doing. We also found out she was cheating a lot near the end which pushed her over the edge on wanting to get out. Ultimately she's a free spirited person and felt that she had to bottle it up during the entire marriage. Both are happy now. She moved on and got married to some rich tech bro traveling the world to all the places her husband couldn't afford to take her. He's now a lawyer and kicking ass as a public defender. Couples therapy worked for them in the sense that it got her to pull the trigger on divorce. Hang in there OP. It'll get better

Does loco hate his family? Every time he post something about them he does in a way that paints them unsavory, in a way you can’t tell if is intentional or he is tha clueless. 

“Yeah, I have family members in prison for murder.”

“Yeah, my family commits voter fraud”

“Yeah, my cousin is a whore  “

[benji]

it's a small solace but stuff like this make you realise that while the far right can do a lot of damage, they can never truely win on global scale. hubristically underestimating your enemy is the inevitable outcome of an ideology built on racial/ethnic/gender etc. hierarchy and dehumanisation. if you deny agency to your enemy they will always be able to surprise you. if empathy is weak and gay then you can never know your enemy.

it seems simple to the point of insult, but I genuinely think that most of America's foreign policy failings can be attributed to an inability to understand why people are motivated to do what they do. JFK courted the Third Worldists and was a vocal anti-colonialist because he understood why people were attracted to communism. this was somehow a novel position at the time. Trump is an extreme example, but he's not the only one who's actions can at least partially be explained by an inability or unwillingness to believe that other people are real and have their own dreams, needs, emotions. it's like they never developed theory of mind or something. the synthesis of fascism and objectivism into the uber sociopath.

Not the far right: an authoritarian clerical religious regime.

[benji]

Ad they're talking about:

This shit needs to be completely illegal

…isn't it? How does this not classify as libel?

The post is real, so maybe it's not libel to have him say that?

To be clear, it's fucked up and should be illegal for a bunch of reasons, but libel laws in the US are a high bar I think.

They think it's libel and want it illegal to repeat what a politician has tweeted.  

The old tweets are still up:

They don't even have some of the best ones in the ad:

[EaldNarche]

why doesn't trump just nuke iran?

[benji]

why doesn't trump just nuke iran?

The whole point is to stop them from getting a nuke, dummy. 

[EaldNarche]

why doesn't trump just nuke iran?

The whole point is to stop them from getting a nuke, dummy. 

yea, but if we nuke them first they won't be able to nuke us! 

[Nintex]

Maybe he'll switch sides and bomb israel instead after talking to Candace 

[HaughtyFrank]

Ad they're talking about:

This shit needs to be completely illegal

…isn't it? How does this not classify as libel?

The post is real, so maybe it's not libel to have him say that?

To be clear, it's fucked up and should be illegal for a bunch of reasons, but libel laws in the US are a high bar I think.

They think it's libel and want it illegal to repeat what a politician has tweeted.  

The old tweets are still up:/]

Wait, why are they calling for libel? Don't they agree with those tweets?

Edit: oh I see, the blue sky post they sourced it from claims he never said those things. Maybe they should add community notes to bluesky 🤔

[Potato]

Member only:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-wife-of-9-years-wants-a-divorce-and-im-struggling-so-damn-much.1459723/#post-152432935

 User banned (3 months): Extremely toxic masculinity

The crying... it has to stop. It can't help you. This woman has gone out of her way to show you that she doesn't love you in a way that is borderline cruel. So why do you still love her? The woman you married is gone. She doesn't exist except as a memory in your mind. She doesn't seem to have any issues moving on from you. Maybe sadness is the wrong emotion here? Anger is a very useful emotion. You must control it, but it will ease you out of the emotional pain if you can get yourself to the point of mentally saying "FTB". At the very least, give her the illusion that you're doing just fine and take care of shit. Get the divorce finalized (immediately), sell the house, start working out, stop talking to your wife in any way other than as a business partner.

Extremely toxic masculinity. Instead of taking change of your life, you should just take all the shit she shovels in your mouth and suffer in silence as she fucks any dick that moves. Either that or become trans.

[benji]

Wait, why are they calling for libel? Don't they agree with those tweets?

Edit: oh I see, the blue sky post they sourced it from claims he never said those things. Maybe they should add community notes to bluesky 🤔

That Bluesky thread has a bunch of "I wish he DID say that" replies among the demands he sue. Well, I've got some good news!

[Potato]

I love it because they act like not being able to play a video game or watch a movie is the same as going hungry.

Or being denied the next Disney's© Marvel's™ The Avengers movie...

[benji]

Edit: oh I see, the blue sky post they sourced it from claims he never said those things. Maybe they should add community notes to bluesky 🤔

Looking into this guy, he's a BlueAnon type (at least that's everyone who seems to reply/quote/follow him) who posts constantly but almost none of it sourced at all other than someone's name, almost all screenshots of something else, half of which are tweets from Twitter, a third of it completely indecipherable. He struggles to even read what his own screenshots are of:

And when he's not just reposting things, it's "analysis" like this:

A week ago, reporting was that Netanyahu wants (early) elections this summer:

One Likud source said that the PM would want to go to elections right after the military campaign in order to leverage the Iran war. Meanwhile, the opposition Democrats party appealed to the Knesset speaker to suspend committee discussions related to the coalition's contentious judicial overhaul plans until the war is over. Likud minister Gila Gamliel said on Tuesday that national elections will likely be brought forward to late June or July.

And I've found I'm not the only one who's noticed this account is weird:

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Travis goes on to provide other evidence that leads me to speculate that the boomer got banned off Facebook (presumably for this) and the BlueAnon's missed his never-ending torrent of slop-posting (that they confuse for 24/7 news coverage) so invited him to the new hangout.

But for Era members, I guess any source is a good source. (Except a banned source, not that you're allowed to know what those are.)

[Potato]

Sigh... it literally costs nothing for you to leave me alone and pay for the things I want, why are you so selfish?

It's the compulsive genocide. I just can't help it because of my skin colour

[Potato]

I also occasionally make bad metal music
https://inonum.bandcamp.com

At least he's honest. They're really bad.

[Potato]

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-wife-of-9-years-wants-a-divorce-and-im-struggling-so-damn-much.1459723/page-2#post-152440069

My cousin did basically the same thing to her husband and completely destroyed the relationship with the lying. I still feel really bad for her husband but in the end he got majority custody of the kids. Her excuse was that she got married too young and realized she needed to experience love with other men. She felt that she missed out on life and wanted to experience more things like her friends have been doing. We also found out she was cheating a lot near the end which pushed her over the edge on wanting to get out. Ultimately she's a free spirited person and felt that she had to bottle it up during the entire marriage. Both are happy now. She moved on and got married to some rich tech bro traveling the world to all the places her husband couldn't afford to take her. He's now a lawyer and kicking ass as a public defender. Couples therapy worked for them in the sense that it got her to pull the trigger on divorce. Hang in there OP. It'll get better

Does loco hate his family? Every time he post something about them he does in a way that paints them unsavory, in a way you can’t tell if is intentional or he is tha clueless. 

“Yeah, I have family members in prison for murder.”

“Yeah, my family commits voter fraud”

“Yeah, my cousin is a whore  “

I think hating your family is a condition of membership these days

[Chumbawumbafan69]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marathon-ot-ghost-in-the-shell.1453297/page-96#post-152465929

Was an up and down day in game for me. Was the first time I truly three man full stacked for the majority of matches. Time just melts playing this in a really dangerous way. When I said playing this game is akin to drug use I was being serious. The euphoria and crash outs both can just be so intense and visceral feeling.

Have already hit this game hard as fuck in the last week, but the last day of playing this was probably the most serious, dedicated video game playing I've done in probably the better part of two decades.

No joke, the last game to probably time warp me this hard and get me to just melt hour after hour was probably Bungie's Halo 3 in 2007. This game has that level of soul sucking capability for me. Not even my peak OG Destiny days hit this level of crack-like craveability.

Let's just put it in a different kind of manner: I know a game is very dangerously incredible when I forgo eating while in the midst of playing. For me to skip food, shit has got to be spectacular. And well, it is.

It's just incredible to me, as someone who adores Reach a lot more than most Bungie/Halo fans tend to do, that in the last two years Sony has published the most incredible spiritual successors to Halo: Reach ever in this and Concord. This game really is delivering on aspects of Reach that Concord didn't really do; namely the much more bleak, oppressive, and hard sci-fi aesthetics + the more tactical and grounded Reach gameplay. This game is very much like a 2.0 on the whole "players with trigger discipline + consistent aim + best positioning are consistently rewarded, while it's a more planted, physical, and lethal game overall" that Reach's general combat design embodied, and I think it's a huge reason I am adoring this game so much.

This game is truly like Halo: Reach 2.0 to me.

If Concord was Reach + Halo CE + Shadowrun 360 + Twisted Metal + Overwatch + Rocket League, Marathon is more like Reach + ODST + Destiny + Escape from Tarkov + Enter the Gungeon to me. If only I could have both, but at least I've got this now and I'm going to enjoy if for as long as I'm able.

I've liked every Bungie game I've played and I'm curious to play Marathon but this guy talking about it like this is the goddamn kiss of death, it must be the worst piece of shit ever made.

[benji]

We're under 25k :/
Why are gamers like this

Like what? Unless you're joking.

Like ignore actually good games because IDK Roblox graphics and woke agenda or whatever, and because it doesn't have the handholding equivalent of yellow climbing markers, while simultaneously complaining about yellow climbing markers in other games.

Yeah I'm really feeling the skill gap getting bigger and bigger, whenever another player shows up I'm pretty much already dead. Can't even finish the most basic "get xy and exfil" quests, I might just have to accept none of these games will actually be for me, regardless how much I love everything but the pvp.

Crow going to be served to people that doubted the numbers then. Decline shows no signs of stopping and no celebratory tweets from Bungie yet.
When exactly is Cryo dropping?

the part of the community that knows the ARG exists is currently running terminal runs on dire marsh over and over to make 3 cameras turn on so they can then run the terminals on outpost to make 3 more cameras turn on. this might unlock cryo or it may be just a first step

the majority of the community has absolutely no clue this is happening

welcome to Bungie I guess. Content, but only for Youtubers and Ultrafans.

not even bothering taking a free kit anymore. Just rotating POIs trying to finish some of these dumb contracts and letting rng bless me. Too many rats in solos these past couple of days. really wish there was a way to quit matches, would make the process much smoother.

Yeah I get it lol. Just"ok""ok""ok""ok""ok""ok""ok""ok""ok""ok""ignore" watch a youtube video and try grabbing whatever you need. All the shit in between matches is way too annoying and too long for a match that usually goes like 20 seconds until you get melted by someone clearly waiting near a quest hub/exfil.

Do I call this fun? Hell no. I think watching Skarrow on Youtube trying to solve the goddamn ARGs is more fun. This game went from "man it's super addicting to just do a few quests" to "well now everyone's just shooting me everywhere and I can't do anything about it anymore" real fast, but I guess that's what happens with a Tarkov audience, no matchmaking and the entirety of Russia on EU times.

edit and after three more deaths or something, I'm pretty confident saying "I'm out".

Wish they would put that much effort into the ingame story and design.

I feel like I'm literally the worst player in the world. Going from A to B for a quest, get surprised, killed, 15 minutes for nothing.
Trying any progress in later storylines (hi sekiguchi) getting murked by a billion CPU enemies.
Somehow surviving CPU, getting instantly killed by a random Assassin.
Sneaking through Hauler or anywhere else in the first map, doesn't matter where, how or when, Assassin, dead.
Checking if there's someone at a random POI from miles away, just looking around a corner: getting sniped from inside the POI or from the other side of the map.
I have no idea who's cheating and who's not, but seeing SO much cheat software, mods, cheaters and cheating streamers on yt/twitch already makes me think it's a whole lot, and Bungie is doing absolutely nothing as suspected after Destiny.

I honestly don't know how to do any quests anymore. The only ones with potential progress are the ones I can just die throughout. One-run-contracts are completely pointless. Tried grouping up with randoms but I really hate team play in this game due to everyone having wildly different tasks and barely anyone doing anything productive, also it doesn't help either. I obviously get that the game is supposed to be hard, but man I would kill to just TRY matchmaking into a PC only, US centric lobby to see if there's any difference to the EU/Russia sweat lobby's I'm in now. Wouldn't even care about the ping, it's just no fun anymore.

[HaughtyFrank]

"Why doesn't anyone play this game? Stupid gamers!"

*Proceeds to endlessly complain about the game and how he doesn't have fun because he keeps dying*

[Snoopy]

I remember when that twat jumped on the Arc Raiders hype then spent most of his time crying about getting killed by mean players

[benji]

Bufbaf is a lot like PlanetSmasher in that you'll see him making like a thousand posts about some new game and then you actually read the posts and you'd think he's experiencing the worst thing ever.

[benji]

I searched for something, clicked on a reddit thread result, then clicked on a thread over on the related threads list and found this discussion in the replies:

TheMust4rdGuy
OP
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5mo ago
Thank you for that concise recap of DC"s crisis event history, though I am familiar with it. I do feel though, even after reading your explanation among the others, that Luthor's line there was extremely poorly put. It makes very little sense when taken at face value and the reference given by the editor doesn't help in the slightest for confused readers. I've even seen some people (like Comic Curator on YT) claiming that Luthor's statement proves that the Omniverse never existed and was actually a false creation made by Darkseid!

Flashpoint Beyond #5 did help clarify things going forward though, much like The New History of the DC Universe is doing now.
Thanks for your help!

EDanielGarnica
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5mo ago
"Comic Curator" is 100% sure that Perpetua was created by Darkseid.

I read the runs that he claims that no one ever read, and there's not even a hint of that. His statements are usually wrong, dude.

TheMightOfGeburah
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5mo ago
Comic Curator thinks that Buuhan is stronger than Kid Buu despite the many materials saying otherwise.

LilithLamm
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4mo ago
Buuhan is absolutely stronger than kid buu.

TheMightOfGeburah
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4mo ago
So you have a statement that says “Buuhan is the strongest Buu” in the time when Kid Buu was conceptualized? Because I have multiple statements for the other way around. Kid Buu is the stronger Buu, his introduction started with the Supreme Kai saying the Absorptions were weaker than him.

LilithLamm
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4mo ago
The original manga, in the original Japanese, stated kid buu was the most dangerous because he was completely feral. It was impossible to reason with him. Majin Fat Buu was somewhat able to be reasoned with, as exhibited by its willingness to listen to Babidi. Super Buu was convinced by Piccolo to wait until Trunks and Goten could fuse again. And Buuhan had Piccolo's and Gohan's intelligence, which is why he was the most competent fighter out of all the Buus, and the most verbose.

Kid Buu from the jump started destroying the planet, which no other villain up to that point had done. Said villains capable of destroying a planet also had a functioning, rational mind. Imagine if Frieza acted like Kid Buu, then there's be no time for Goku to Zenkai to get Super Saiyan. Imagine if Perfect Cell were feral, then he would never have tortured the Z warriors to get Gohan angry enough to transform to SS2. All the big bads would have been 10x worse if they weren't proud enough to allow the Z warriors to eventually get the upper hand.

Also, the most obvious example is the fact that Super Saiyan 3 Goku was fighting evenly with Kid Buu and only lost because he no longer had the benefit of being dead to counteract SS3's massive energy drain. That same Goku was completely outclassed by regular Super Buu and thought the only chance to defeat him was either with Gotenks or Ultimate Gohan. Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta was able to hold Kid Buu off, which was not something he was willing to consider for Super Buu.

Just because Kid Buu was the last bad guy, that doesn't mean he's the strongest.

TheMightOfGeburah
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3mo ago
You’re parrotting the same tired, debunked misconceptions that the western fandom has been clinging to for decades because they refuse to read the source material. You claim the "original Japanese" supports you? That is laughable. I’m going to do what you clearly haven’t: I’m going to actually read the Japanese text on the page to you.

You claim Kid Buu is only "dangerous" because he’s feral. You claim he isn't the strongest. You are objectively wrong, and I have the Supreme Kai’s own words to prove it.

Let’s look at Dragon Ball Volume 34, Chapter 508 (The Original Manga). Look at the bottom panels of the scan I posted.

http://comic.dragonballcn.com/list/0.Dragon_Ball-buyao_daolian_ya/0.jp_Kanzenban/DRAGONBALLvol34/064-aG25E.jpg

Panel Context: Kibito Kai is explaining exactly what happened to Buu’s physiology after they ripped "Good Buu" (Fat Buu) out of Super Buu.

The Japanese Text (Bottom Middle Panel):

Kibito Kai:「……はい…吸収によってパワーを減らしてまで手に入れた心が…またもとにもどってしまった……」

The Direct Translation:

*“…Yes… the heart which he obtained **by going so far as to reduce his power through absorption**… has returned to its original state again…”*

Did you catch that? Or do you need me to spell it out?

*“Power wo herashite”* (パワーを減らして) means **"REDUCING POWER."**

The Supreme Kai explicitly states that by absorbing the Grand Supreme Kai (Dai Kaioshin)—the act that created Fat Buu—Buu actually **lost power** in exchange for gaining a "heart" (control/reason). Your entire argument hinges on the idea that Absorptions = Stronger. The manga explicitly refutes this. The "Buff Buu" (South Supreme Kai absorption) was strong, and stated to have a higher Ki than Super Buu (the first sign that the whole "absorption = stronger" thing was false and another sign that the reduction of absorptions wasn't making Buu weaker but stronger)

When Kid Buu appears, Old Kai (Bottom Right Panel) says:

「…いまの…あのちいさな魔人ブウは…最初…いちばんやっかいなヤツじゃと……」

*“…This… that small Majin Buu now is… the initial… the most troublesome one…”*

He isn't just "troublesome" because he's loud or feral. He is troublesome because the "*restraint*" on his power—the "heart" that reduced his power—is gone.

Kid Buu is stated in the Dragon Ball Z Fact File to be the Buu with the most power

https://preview.redd.it/people-have-to-realize-that-there-are-statements-for-both-v0-dmlu6f82oj4e1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=92fb5348c5c617a29a37f00a8fe154187058e8d7

https://i.redd.it/kid-buu-buuhan-using-only-anime-and-databooks-v0-78oz7rhsggac1.jpg?width=762&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbd2e586c079f039b237aebde575e0b1cb836f51

He's stated to have the greatest of strength in Dragon Book Z Volume 7

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/c37ffa7f-3b8e-451f-8986-88710621a6c6/scale-to-width/755

Buuhan is SUB RELATIVE to SS3 Goku according to VJumps

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/f/f6/Ebe0c681127bb62-a-nw-p.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/400?cb=20181231082722

Dende states the Evil Version Of Majin Buu (that's what Kid Buu is called in Japan) aka the Majin Buu Of Pure Evil was Goku's most forimidable foe

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-W_2AZWUAAB7ZS.png

Addressing your points specifically:

"Kid Buu was only dangerous because he was feral":

False. As proven above, the absorption of the Grand Supreme Kai *reduced his power*. Therefore, reverting to Kid Buu removed that dampener. He is dangerous because he is pure, unadulterated power without the inhibition that made the other Buus weaker/gentler.

2. "Goku was terrified of Super Buu but fought Kid Buu":

Context implies everything. Inside Buu’s body, Goku was at his smaller size which guides confirm reduced his and Vegeta's powers to 1/100th less than normal, lacking the leverage to fight. Furthermore, when fighting Kid Buu, Goku explicitly states he overestimated his own ability to maintain SSJ3 in a living body. He thought he could one-shot Kid Buu if he gathered his ki for one minute something he never claimed he couldn't do against Buuhan, in fact, the guides place Buuhan ON Goku's level at max. The narrative point stands: Kid Buu pushed a 100% SSJ3 Goku to the absolute brink of stamina failure, something no other form did because the fight dynamics were different.

3. "Vegeta held off Kid Buu":

Vegeta was used as a punching bag. That is not a feat of strength; it is a feat of durability and Kid Buu toying with his food. Kid Buu plays around; that is his nature. Using Vegeta getting thrashed as evidence that Kid Buu is weak is the definition of poor media literacy.

4. "Buuhan was the most competent":

Competence alone does not equal raw destructive ceiling, we also see in Dragon Ball Super that HAVING CONTROL OF YOUR KI actually increases your power, we see Kid Buu utilize his body and Ki in ways Super Buu can't even do. You are confusing "tactical ability" with "power." Buuhan relied on techniques and intellect. Kid Buu relies on infinite stamina, instant regeneration, and a power level that was *restrained* by previous absorptions.

Stop relying on headcanon and "what if" scenarios about Frieza. Read the text.

Absorption = Power Reduction

Kid Buu = The restraints removed

The scan doesn't lie. Your memory of the series does.

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Will make a graphic for it over the weekend and pop it somewhere among the first two posts but yeh, if anyone wants a Marathon Era discord invite just shout. Have over 300 peeps in there now, LFG bot and chat channel, lore discussion, and pull through server status and Bungie's BSky/Youtube updates.

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Solo Marsh has at least 7 people in it. I just ran one and killed 3 people, saw another exfil, snuck out in the smoke bomb of another, and then the camera went to one after I got out.

Not bad for a free loadout and normal looting

 -Just doing casual runs for drone resin, need 4 more and I can start buying the green WSTR.

It's so inspiring he can carry on though this genocide and enjoy himself like there was no genocide.

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I'm a 3D Artist. I also make comics. https://www.webtoons.com/p/community/en/u/SamAlbro

Here are my demo reel and a proof of concept piece for an animation project I'm working on:

his name is literally AI bro 

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Likely not, but would love to see it, if only to see people who claim to not like Sony games throw a fit if they get taken down lol.

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You know what would be a fun solution for the oil spike for the Europeans?
Confiscating the fuck out all the oil from the sanctioned shadow fleet vessels

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I searched for something, clicked on a reddit thread result, then clicked on a thread over on the related threads list and found this discussion in the replies:

TheMust4rdGuy
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5mo ago
Thank you for that concise recap of DC"s crisis event history, though I am familiar with it. I do feel though, even after reading your explanation among the others, that Luthor's line there was extremely poorly put. It makes very little sense when taken at face value and the reference given by the editor doesn't help in the slightest for confused readers. I've even seen some people (like Comic Curator on YT) claiming that Luthor's statement proves that the Omniverse never existed and was actually a false creation made by Darkseid!

Flashpoint Beyond #5 did help clarify things going forward though, much like The New History of the DC Universe is doing now.
Thanks for your help!

EDanielGarnica
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5mo ago
"Comic Curator" is 100% sure that Perpetua was created by Darkseid.

I read the runs that he claims that no one ever read, and there's not even a hint of that. His statements are usually wrong, dude.

TheMightOfGeburah
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5mo ago
Comic Curator thinks that Buuhan is stronger than Kid Buu despite the many materials saying otherwise.

LilithLamm
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4mo ago
Buuhan is absolutely stronger than kid buu.

TheMightOfGeburah
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4mo ago
So you have a statement that says “Buuhan is the strongest Buu” in the time when Kid Buu was conceptualized? Because I have multiple statements for the other way around. Kid Buu is the stronger Buu, his introduction started with the Supreme Kai saying the Absorptions were weaker than him.

LilithLamm
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4mo ago
The original manga, in the original Japanese, stated kid buu was the most dangerous because he was completely feral. It was impossible to reason with him. Majin Fat Buu was somewhat able to be reasoned with, as exhibited by its willingness to listen to Babidi. Super Buu was convinced by Piccolo to wait until Trunks and Goten could fuse again. And Buuhan had Piccolo's and Gohan's intelligence, which is why he was the most competent fighter out of all the Buus, and the most verbose.

Kid Buu from the jump started destroying the planet, which no other villain up to that point had done. Said villains capable of destroying a planet also had a functioning, rational mind. Imagine if Frieza acted like Kid Buu, then there's be no time for Goku to Zenkai to get Super Saiyan. Imagine if Perfect Cell were feral, then he would never have tortured the Z warriors to get Gohan angry enough to transform to SS2. All the big bads would have been 10x worse if they weren't proud enough to allow the Z warriors to eventually get the upper hand.

Also, the most obvious example is the fact that Super Saiyan 3 Goku was fighting evenly with Kid Buu and only lost because he no longer had the benefit of being dead to counteract SS3's massive energy drain. That same Goku was completely outclassed by regular Super Buu and thought the only chance to defeat him was either with Gotenks or Ultimate Gohan. Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta was able to hold Kid Buu off, which was not something he was willing to consider for Super Buu.

Just because Kid Buu was the last bad guy, that doesn't mean he's the strongest.

TheMightOfGeburah
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3mo ago
You’re parrotting the same tired, debunked misconceptions that the western fandom has been clinging to for decades because they refuse to read the source material. You claim the "original Japanese" supports you? That is laughable. I’m going to do what you clearly haven’t: I’m going to actually read the Japanese text on the page to you.

You claim Kid Buu is only "dangerous" because he’s feral. You claim he isn't the strongest. You are objectively wrong, and I have the Supreme Kai’s own words to prove it.

Let’s look at Dragon Ball Volume 34, Chapter 508 (The Original Manga). Look at the bottom panels of the scan I posted.

http://comic.dragonballcn.com/list/0.Dragon_Ball-buyao_daolian_ya/0.jp_Kanzenban/DRAGONBALLvol34/064-aG25E.jpg

Panel Context: Kibito Kai is explaining exactly what happened to Buu’s physiology after they ripped "Good Buu" (Fat Buu) out of Super Buu.

The Japanese Text (Bottom Middle Panel):

Kibito Kai:「……はい…吸収によってパワーを減らしてまで手に入れた心が…またもとにもどってしまった……」

The Direct Translation:

*“…Yes… the heart which he obtained **by going so far as to reduce his power through absorption**… has returned to its original state again…”*

Did you catch that? Or do you need me to spell it out?

*“Power wo herashite”* (パワーを減らして) means **"REDUCING POWER."**

The Supreme Kai explicitly states that by absorbing the Grand Supreme Kai (Dai Kaioshin)—the act that created Fat Buu—Buu actually **lost power** in exchange for gaining a "heart" (control/reason). Your entire argument hinges on the idea that Absorptions = Stronger. The manga explicitly refutes this. The "Buff Buu" (South Supreme Kai absorption) was strong, and stated to have a higher Ki than Super Buu (the first sign that the whole "absorption = stronger" thing was false and another sign that the reduction of absorptions wasn't making Buu weaker but stronger)

When Kid Buu appears, Old Kai (Bottom Right Panel) says:

「…いまの…あのちいさな魔人ブウは…最初…いちばんやっかいなヤツじゃと……」

*“…This… that small Majin Buu now is… the initial… the most troublesome one…”*

He isn't just "troublesome" because he's loud or feral. He is troublesome because the "*restraint*" on his power—the "heart" that reduced his power—is gone.

Kid Buu is stated in the Dragon Ball Z Fact File to be the Buu with the most power

https://preview.redd.it/people-have-to-realize-that-there-are-statements-for-both-v0-dmlu6f82oj4e1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=92fb5348c5c617a29a37f00a8fe154187058e8d7

https://i.redd.it/kid-buu-buuhan-using-only-anime-and-databooks-v0-78oz7rhsggac1.jpg?width=762&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbd2e586c079f039b237aebde575e0b1cb836f51

He's stated to have the greatest of strength in Dragon Book Z Volume 7

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/c37ffa7f-3b8e-451f-8986-88710621a6c6/scale-to-width/755

Buuhan is SUB RELATIVE to SS3 Goku according to VJumps

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/f/f6/Ebe0c681127bb62-a-nw-p.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/400?cb=20181231082722

Dende states the Evil Version Of Majin Buu (that's what Kid Buu is called in Japan) aka the Majin Buu Of Pure Evil was Goku's most forimidable foe

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-W_2AZWUAAB7ZS.png

Addressing your points specifically:

"Kid Buu was only dangerous because he was feral":

False. As proven above, the absorption of the Grand Supreme Kai *reduced his power*. Therefore, reverting to Kid Buu removed that dampener. He is dangerous because he is pure, unadulterated power without the inhibition that made the other Buus weaker/gentler.

2. "Goku was terrified of Super Buu but fought Kid Buu":

Context implies everything. Inside Buu’s body, Goku was at his smaller size which guides confirm reduced his and Vegeta's powers to 1/100th less than normal, lacking the leverage to fight. Furthermore, when fighting Kid Buu, Goku explicitly states he overestimated his own ability to maintain SSJ3 in a living body. He thought he could one-shot Kid Buu if he gathered his ki for one minute something he never claimed he couldn't do against Buuhan, in fact, the guides place Buuhan ON Goku's level at max. The narrative point stands: Kid Buu pushed a 100% SSJ3 Goku to the absolute brink of stamina failure, something no other form did because the fight dynamics were different.

3. "Vegeta held off Kid Buu":

Vegeta was used as a punching bag. That is not a feat of strength; it is a feat of durability and Kid Buu toying with his food. Kid Buu plays around; that is his nature. Using Vegeta getting thrashed as evidence that Kid Buu is weak is the definition of poor media literacy.

4. "Buuhan was the most competent":

Competence alone does not equal raw destructive ceiling, we also see in Dragon Ball Super that HAVING CONTROL OF YOUR KI actually increases your power, we see Kid Buu utilize his body and Ki in ways Super Buu can't even do. You are confusing "tactical ability" with "power." Buuhan relied on techniques and intellect. Kid Buu relies on infinite stamina, instant regeneration, and a power level that was *restrained* by previous absorptions.

Stop relying on headcanon and "what if" scenarios about Frieza. Read the text.

Absorption = Power Reduction

Kid Buu = The restraints removed

The scan doesn't lie. Your memory of the series does.

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Power level sperging… every damn time.