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[Venice]

User banned (1 day): Platform wars

Yup. Meanwhile all the Xbox fanboys get to jerk each other off in their fanboy discords about Playstation players getting less games. It's just a really great morning to wake up to.

What a healthy, fun industry to be a part of. Definitely not a horrible, miserable hellscape or anything close to it.

Afraid of what he’ll do to himself if he gets banned for any longer.

Thousands of Israeli's and Palestinians dead, tens of thousands homeless, children and babies on both sides butchered, war crimes of a grand-scale being currently perpetuated...

PlanetSmasher: Waking up, seeing people celebrate some games not being on PlayStation in the future = HORRIBLE, MISERABLE HELLSCAPE. 

PlanetSmasher, get out of your parents basement and get some fucking perspective.



Edit: Also, welcome back Taco Bell!

[PogiJones]

As a kid, my hamster escaped and was lost for a couple weeks. When I found him, he was so hungry that he stuffed his cheeks so full of food that I could see the lumpy seeds through his fur.

Taco Bell Tower is back and we're all ready to   those likes

[Greatness Gone]

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-studios-ot38-i-have-nothing-left-except-spider-man.773426/page-24#post-113401949

I guess this week's Friday bad news is that Microsoft's Activision-Blizzard acquisition is now official, which means no more Activision-Blizzard games on PlayStation with the exception of Call of Duty for 10 years.

User banned (1 day): Platform wars

Yup. Meanwhile all the Xbox fanboys get to jerk each other off in their fanboy discords about Playstation players getting less games. It's just a really great morning to wake up to.

What a healthy, fun industry to be a part of. Definitely not a horrible, miserable hellscape or anything close to it.

Afraid of what he’ll do to himself if he gets banned for any longer.

Imagine getting banned for being a Sony pony in the Sony pony thread.  Even his fellow ponies don’t like him

An Xbox costs 500 dollars. What the fuck is he even complaining about? That's an extremely low barrier to entry* if you actually like playing videogames.

*for an able bodied american above the poverty line who has the ability/free time to post on a gaming forum 24/7

[Boredfrom]

[ClothedMac]

excelsiorlef
They've killed nearly 500 children with 6000 bombs already

only nearly 500? how many were beheaded though? 

poor taste of a joke aside that thread is just going in circles. Isn't it time to go back to complaining about Republicans?

I clicked on that thread and scrolled through to get the Era vibe.  I quickly left when I saw Excel had filled 10% of the page.  She's so desperate to be an expert.

[Nintex]

Hamas/Israel war  

Xbox/PlayStation war  

That merger celebration trailer was 90% dead franchises or IP's put on ice, Sea of Thieves and Call of Duty

[RetiredSkunk]

Hamas/Israel war  

Xbox/PlayStation war  

That merger celebration trailer was 90% dead franchises or IP's put on ice, Sea of Thieves and Call of Duty

Umadbro?

[TylenolJones]

leave Excel Miles Cheong alone!!!

[Nintex]

ResetEra IRL

[Eric Cartman]

"malign sorcery of capitalism"

[Eric Cartman]

Hey Mr Terriost Hamas men, go away we don’t like you, we are in danger. No, okay then.

What does he expect people to do when Hamas hold the levers and are terriost scumbags.

I mean ideally, this mess will make people lose it and maybe turn on them but they are still the terrorists with the guns and supplies holding the place while Israel dropping bombs and storming through.

A rock and hard place doesn’t quite cover it for Palestinians.

Israel need to offer the biggest of olive branches to separate the two but they aren’t.

What kind of logic is this shit...

People being bombed are now going to say "hey, you know what fuck hamas" when their murderers are calling them animals and putting them through collective punishment....

The entire reason Hamas exists is Israel doing the disgusting shit they do.

Some of the posts in here reek of "experts" needing to say something and most of it is stupid shit that makes no sense.

Hamas existence has very little to do with any actions taken by the Israeli administration beyond 'exists and is located in israel'.
Hamas consideration for the actual lives of the inhabitants of palestine has very little to do with their ideological raison d'etre other than they serve as convenient meat shielding.

Like, if you're gonna drop a take, you could at least skim the fucking cliff notes histories.

[Eric Cartman]

Maybe a legitimate political organisation wouldn't put munitions caches under hospitals and suspend elections for 20-odd years to maintain power as soon as they got it, just saying

[HaughtyFrank]

ResetEra IRL

With any of these videos I kind of hope that it's more of a claim that they just don't support the IDF bombings, but nope, goes right there, calling Hamas a "resistance" and claiming that there's not a single enemy of his among the Palestinians (which would include the brave baby killers). I don't know how people can get that delusional.

[Eric Cartman]

With any of these videos I kind of hope that it's more of a claim that they just don't support the IDF bombings, but nope, goes right there, calling Hamas a "resistance" and claiming that there's not a single enemy of his among the Palestinians (which would include the brave baby killers). I don't know how people can get that delusional.

I kind of have to assume its a cocktail of Enemy Of My Enemy / Grass Is Greener where you get the "Wow, I hate America, so the people who also hate America must be pretty cool" with a generous side helping of Dunning-Kruger and

[DocWager]

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ResetEra IRL

Sam Kinison?

[Eric Cartman]

I still find it that in, what, a couple of years? era official policy has entirely pivoted from "you're not allowed to compare israeli policy towards palestinians to german ghettoisation in the 30s and 40s because it upsets our jewish members" to "eat a ban if you imply israel didnt basically ask for this, hamas had no choice perpetrating one of the worst atrocities in recent years"

[Nintex]

ResetEra IRL

With any of these videos I kind of hope that it's more of a claim that they just don't support the IDF bombings, but nope, goes right there, calling Hamas a "resistance" and claiming that there's not a single enemy of his among the Palestinians (which would include the brave baby killers). I don't know how people can get that delusional.

You could say these people are stone cold crazy and there are many such cases

Let's hear from Big Boss

[Bootsthecat]

Why bother pretending to be a girl if you're going to put so little effort into it, on the public-facing side of things. Like, you're just a fat fuck with long hair

[Eric Cartman]

Sam Kinison?

THE MALIGN SORCERY OF CAPITALISM ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

[Nintex]

Why bother pretending to be a girl if you're going to put so little effort into it, on the public-facing side of things. Like, you're just a fat fuck with long hair

That's how you can be certain Hamas won't kidnap and rape you when they raid your EDM rave 

[Vertigo]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-marvels-early-box-office-prediction-is-50-75-domestic-opening-presales-72-behind-quantumania.774407/The 

ZeroVag and Fj0823 are gonna have their work cut out for them to damage control in that thread.

They've been doing a sterling job so far. ZeroVag is multiple quoting as usual.

Also never forget that Fj0823 told us their mental health is on the line if a MCU film does badly. But they love to drop into DCU threads and shitpost.

We need to all come together and make sure this film doesn't underperform for their sakes.

We need to beat the 'chuds' who'll say bad things

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-294#post-113406503
Here's the latest disgusting, sexist garbage that advances the patriarchy they got their knickers in a bunch this time:

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

 
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-294#post-113425253

While what Alannah is saying seems reasonable enough, the problem is that very, very, very few people are saying “no characters can be sexy ever.” The criticism is of sex appeal being the only trait every female character is given. Of inserting it where it isn‘t appropriate. So to side step those points and speak as though all those who are making these criticisms want a full ban on sex just gives ammo to the dumb-dumbs. It allows them to dismiss arguments without understanding/engaging with them. It’s playing into their game.

[Uncle]

The criticism is of sex appeal being the only trait every female character is given.

oh ok so since this is the one character that's been depicted like this in recent memory, it's fine, right? pick any other recent female character as the counterbalance to this horrifically sexy set of pixels

[BIONIC]

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Most of the relevant posts are hidden, so I can only guess, but it appears that the "slutshame videogame women" thread is having a crisis of faith because sometimes they actually like sexy outfits

I love Lulu from Final Fantasy X. It's very obviously a sexualized? or sexy? outfit, with all the belts, and the cleavage, but I love it, and it definitely gives her a power as the femme fatale/silent "older" woman in the group that I love, and I think it's supper original. And I think that's okay? In terms of, you can like an individual outfit or design, and still understand that is part of a bigger, negative trend? Does this make sense? Other people have that with Bayonetta, which I find sexualized but not sexy at all (I'm not a tight bodysuit lesbian, sorry), and I think it's more faithful WHEN you can recognize that: you like it, and that it's part of a trope that has its negatives and is overall detrimental in many many occasions.

I don't think you should be ashamed of this dissonance(?).

Also, I kind of prefer Ada's dress from the original RE4 as well. Make of that what you will.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-293

"It's okay to like it as long as you shame everyone else for liking it and pretend that it harms humanity"

Having a sleeper account in the first few pages has its uses

I feel like this post is going to end up being very rambly so I apologies in advance.

I've discussed in the past that I like femme fatales and my frustration with that because I often feel like a hypocrite. Part of it, especially with games is that many artists and writers mistake sexy for sexualized and are often the most objectified women in gaming and an issue brought up earlier in this thread called the "Catwoman Problem" where every woman is sexualized making them not stand out or be special. It makes it hard for me to say I like characters like Morrigan and Anna Williams in spite of that because it often feel like I'm part of the problem. Not all women should be sexualized and that can be very limiting, especially when it blocks older and woman with bodyshapes not deemed "sexy".

Like an example from this year was around the launch of RE4R. I felt like I needed to stay quiet for the most part during the launch of Resident Evil 4 remake because I preferred Ada's dress from the original because of just how outlandish it was and how much of a fun character she was in that, it just felt it worked with the campy tone of the game (which besides Ashley who was improved in the remake, I felt the remake lost so much of the outlandish and campy charm of the original). It felt hypocritical given how much I dislike stuff like Jill's design from RE5 or the weird fetishization of Lady Dimitrescu by the fandom and like I was justifying the pervy men bashing the remake's look and the actress. Or disliking Bayonetta while enjoying Juri Han.

However their is another reason I like Femme fatales, I like evil woman who own being evil and love it. While I've said I like heroic or at least Femme Fatale with kind hearts and I do (part of why I like Anna Williams); I just love woman who are evil and proud. Like it's weird to say this after just making a thread about video games being over reliant on power fantasies... But I guess it's just one of my power fantasies. Like the Time Boken Villainess expy (less so some of the nude jokes at their expense some works do including Time Boken), Jessie from Pokémon is probably one of the most famous examples in the west.

I find them to be very funny, a joy to watch and just satisfying to see how much they own themselves. It often feels like women villains HAVE to be redeemed or closer to anti heroes to be considered interesting or well written, but like sometimes I just want an Ursula and Maleficent. This is why I PREFERED Sindel in MK11 compared to her previous portrayals. I found Sindel to be incredibly fun in it and loved the adorable battle couple she and Shao Kahn made who genuinely loved each other in a evil way (and really dislike the comments that made her out as just a "trophy wife"). Yet it felt like I was in an extreme minority when it came to that.

I would honestly love a video game where you played as a villainous femme fatale who beat the heroes in more outlandish and comical ways, stole the hero's lady love interest's heart and beats the even bigger bad guy at their own game.

Yeah this post did pretty much end up just being a ramble there, sorry.

Honestly, I don't think it's hypocritical at all. There's a big difference between personally liking that kind of thing and it being forced upon everyone as one of the defaults in media, ya know? Like, I'll complain about certain design choices, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't sometimes like it or deliberately pick those outfits from time to time. The difference is that in those moments I have the choice to engage with it, rather than it being forced on me.

I definitely feel you in how it can be frustrating dealing with that feeling of hypocrisy. How I reckon with it is remembering that the it isn't that these designs exist that is the problem, it's how entrenched in media it is, to the detriment of everything else. That's what I end up fighting for, not the outright removal of that kind of design, but to have equal parity with the variety of non-sexualized designs that male characters often get.

I agree with this. There's definitely times where I may look at a design that is VERY CLEARLY objectifying but still like it from both perspectives (that is, aesthetically and attractive...lly?). Same goes for sometimes choosing that sort of look for my character, if possible. That goes especially for fully custom characters which I mostly use to explore my own gender dysphoria and of course sometimes I want my dysphoric avatar to look sexy as hell. Also should note that I'm a sex-positive asexual, for what it's worth.

The important thing to remember is that *as a whole* it remains an issue of many, many, MANY designs coming across as forcing the ideals of the designer on an unwilling audience. It's like the Police Squad! meme that's been making the rounds as of recent: "The Writer's Barely Disguised Fetish". Same sort of thing that leads to film/television/game cinematography that follows the male gaze.

One thing I especially love in this comment, MoonlitSeer, is the end of it. So many people seem to say, "well as long as the men start to get sexalised too!" that it's rare to see it expressed the way you did (unless I misread it?): Cover up the women as much as you cover up the men.

ah yes, The Bayonetta problem (for me).

She is obviously hyper objectified, and I would never "defend" it (it's quite hilarious when people do, kinda the same with the Xeno games), but I love her and the games so... yeah :(

Unsure of how to hide content like that, so I'll just put a spoiler on it:

Spoiler: "Outfits" (click to show)(click to hide)

I love Lulu from Final Fantasy X. It's very obviously a sexualized? or sexy? outfit, with all the belts, and the cleavage, but I love it, and it definitely gives her a power as the femme fatale/silent "older" woman in the group that I love, and I think it's supper original. And I think that's okay? In terms of, you can like an individual outfit or design, and still understand that is part of a bigger, negative trend? Does this make sense? Other people have that with Bayonetta, which I find sexualized but not sexy at all (I'm not a tight bodysuit lesbian, sorry), and I think it's more faithful WHEN you can recognize that: you like it, and that it's part of a trope that has its negatives and is overall detrimental in many many occasions.

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I don't think you should be ashamed of this dissonance(?).

Also, I kind of prefer Ada's dress from the original RE4 as well. Make of that what you will.

And [USER=49016]seroun[/USER], you can use the "[HIDE /HIDE]" command for hidden posts, just add the proper opening and closing brackets like you would for the SPOILER and CROSS commands.

For example:
Everyone in this thread is beautiful.

:soy

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kevin-afghani-is-the-voice-of-mario-and-luigi-in-super-mario-bros-wonder.774614/#post-113426717

Congrats to them, hope they have a long career, assuming they have the role for the long-term

Kevin Afghani uses he/him pronouns according to his Twitter bio

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Plz ban for misgendering

[Venice]

A rare bit of honesty, from one of Era's lesser-known but extremely irritating morons:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/witchfire-team-consists-of-just-12-people-which-is-half-the-team-that-made-painkiller-in-2002-2004.773816/#post-113321849

not expecting people to know these things, dw. not everyone is eternally online and brainpoisoned like i am

I hope excelsiorf and kyuuji will soon post similar self-aware confessions.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/witchfire-team-consists-of-just-12-people-which-is-half-the-team-that-made-painkiller-in-2002-2004.773816/#post-113326943

Same threat here to everyone in the previous thread:

After years of telling you all that the head of this studio is a Gamergater and all-round POS, I will be blocking everybody who just comes in here and goes "Wow! Cool game!"

"Wow! Cool game!"
It actually IS though! Look I am sure the guy is a POS, but I'm a grown up. If I cancelled every single product that involved someone who is a POS, then I probably wouldn't play or watch anything,
It's a team game and unless everyone in the studio is provable to be a POS and are pushing an agenda that is awful, then I am not going to snub an entire team of developers who are working hard at developing what looks to be a very interesting game.
Sorry, Feel free to block.

Post made on Wednesday but not banned for dismissing concerns. Mod Admiral slipping

The developers are hard at work developing a game where you kill women directed by a raging misogynist.

Really?  I understand the big bad final boss is a female witch but so far all the enemies seem to be male. Swordsmen, Musketeers, Grenadiers, Assassins Shield bearer  etc...male or at least masculine monster/undead type of thing.

Okay woman singular (I thought there were multiple witches). The point still stands.

thank you for being a prime example for the dismissing, vile posts plenty people - mostly women - have brought up as part of the problem in the thread asking why game forums like Era have a problem with being so dominated by men & why women often don't feel welcome or taken for full. and for being a grown up you sure as hell act extremely immature about someone rightfully being frustrated by how often men will come into threads & just post dismissive drive-bys while people are talking about issues like misogyny or transphobia in games or other media said men are excited about. at least try to not make it so obvious when it comes to not caring about anyone other than yourselves.

I totally disagree, and I'm frankly not going to argue. You have an agenda. I was talking about the game. I don't want to get banned on here, so I will say no more on it.

Holy shit...literally just going fullon agenda route?  Right to the face of a nonbinary person?

[Uncle]

I thought there were multiple witches 

[HaughtyFrank]

:soy

"Hey I like this thing, and I'm not a chud but everyone else who likes this thing is a chud"

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/witchfire-team-consists-of-just-12-people-which-is-half-the-team-that-made-painkiller-in-2002-2004.773816/#post-113326943

Okay woman singular (I thought there were multiple witches). The point still stands.

It literally doesn't unless you want to argue that a woman can never be a villain