Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/un-votes-to-describe-slave-trade-as-%E2%80%98gravest-crime-against-humanity%E2%80%99-us-israel-argentina-vote-against-europe-canada-japan-australia-abstain.1473706/page-3#post-153064888

I don't want to justify the abstention of most of the European countries but *technically* the trans-Atlantic slave trade can't be THE gravest crime against humanity since there were other slave trades that were as much or even more impactful for the victims' communities.
2 examples from the top of my head:
- The Arab Slave trade: It operated for 13 centuries or more (!) and the total tally of victims was similar if not greater. Unfortunately it's not as visible or known since most of the male victims didn't leave any offsprings and they were expendable while the females were often used as sex slaves or concubines. The later practice was so impactful that nowadays almost all of the Arabic speaking world (in the Middle East and North Africa) of Muslim background has *some* amount of Sub-Saharan admixture connected to it while their pre-Islamic ancestors had, depending on the area, less or none at all.
- The Ottoman slave trade: Of much more localised importance but even then, millions of people of European, Caucasian and African origin were trafficked from the establishment of the Ottoman Empire until the early 20th (!) century.

Some of the countries that voted are among the top 10 for modern slavery....

https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/

[Mediocre Lager]

I kinda want them to ban the Olympics and World Cup.  Just to see what a pop culture discussion forum looks like where you're not allowed to discuss most pieces of pop culture.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2026-us-and-israel-launches-strike-on-iran-khamenei-killed-israel-invades-lebanon.1449391/page-283#post-153072664



I wonder if he knows how much that looks like it might be a white power symbol.

[simiansmarts]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-women-to-be-banned-from-the-2028-olympic-games-eligibility-will-be-determined-by-a-once-in-a-lifetime-sex-test.1473883/page-3#post-153070996

Much of the world agrees with and supports this.

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/fd-signifier-with-a-new-tier-list-left-tube-opps.1474609/#post-153071410

i'd bump jk rowling up to on sight. also shouldn't charlie kirk be in on sight, technically?

She isn't on sight with how extremely popular HP is, and how little people either don't know or don't care about how dangerous she is.

 
   
This is the most terminally online tier list I've ever seen. Half of these fuckers are streamers that you'd only know if you're lost in the sauce of online political shitflinging   
 
Imagine trying to explain how Harry Potter author is a "counter insurgent" with a straight face

[Ethan]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/un-votes-to-describe-slave-trade-as-%E2%80%98gravest-crime-against-humanity%E2%80%99-us-israel-argentina-vote-against-europe-canada-japan-australia-abstain.1473706/page-3#post-153064888

I don't want to justify the abstention of most of the European countries but *technically* the trans-Atlantic slave trade can't be THE gravest crime against humanity since there were other slave trades that were as much or even more impactful for the victims' communities.
2 examples from the top of my head:
- The Arab Slave trade: It operated for 13 centuries or more (!) and the total tally of victims was similar if not greater. Unfortunately it's not as visible or known since most of the male victims didn't leave any offsprings and they were expendable while the females were often used as sex slaves or concubines. The later practice was so impactful that nowadays almost all of the Arabic speaking world (in the Middle East and North Africa) of Muslim background has *some* amount of Sub-Saharan admixture connected to it while their pre-Islamic ancestors had, depending on the area, less or none at all.
- The Ottoman slave trade: Of much more localised importance but even then, millions of people of European, Caucasian and African origin were trafficked from the establishment of the Ottoman Empire until the early 20th (!) century.

Some of the countries that voted are among the top 10 for modern slavery....

https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/

These UN votes are always ridiculous. It's basically the Western bloc and The BRICS/Global South bloc trolling each other in the hope to expose the hypocrisy of the other, without accomplishing anything. 
You can always count on Israel voting tthe worst way possible and good guy Costa Rica going along with everything.

It couldn't be recognizing that the slave trade was a grave crime against humanity. No, it has to be the gravest.

[Boredfrom]

Laying the groundwork for "oops! That was just placeholder art" as soon as somebody notices

Which defeats the whole purpose of using as final product given the cost to replace it and how hawkish are the anti AI community. 

I really fucking hate the anti Ai absolutism, no compromise even when the devs agree with you. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/owlcat-is-using-gen-ai-during-the-expanse-osiris-reborns-development-but-insists-everything-in-the-final-version-will-definitely-100-human-made.1474675/

If you can't find "direction" or "inspiration" to make a game without AI maybe you aren't creative or talented enough to make a game in the first place.

 

Random asshole on the Internet to a veteran developer: you got not talent or creativity.

[simiansmarts]

Laying the groundwork for "oops! That was just placeholder art" as soon as somebody notices

Which defeats the whole purpose of using as final product given the cost to replace it and how hawkish are the anti AI community. 

I really fucking hate the anti Ai absolutism, no compromise even when the devs agree with you. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/owlcat-is-using-gen-ai-during-the-expanse-osiris-reborns-development-but-insists-everything-in-the-final-version-will-definitely-100-human-made.1474675/

If you can't find "direction" or "inspiration" to make a game without AI maybe you aren't creative or talented enough to make a game in the first place.

 

Random asshole on the Internet to a veteran developer: you got not talent or creativity.

Hell hath no fury like a forum warrior scorned by the transgressions of the lowly game developer

[Taco Bell Tower]

Member only:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mental-health-era-ot2-community-and-understanding.95803/page-96#post-153070456

Got attacked on the bus the other day. Trying to stay strong but today we had another drugged out loud fucker and I am just so fucking scared of the world right now. Pure beau is afraid feeling right now. Keep in mind I was stabbed in the stomach in West Virginia so even after moving in never safe anymore. I'm proud being trans but I hate living trans in this god damn world sometimes. I'm not seeking pity mind you I'm fucking powerful. I'm not a defensive less stereotype. I'm not a victim, I'm injured but I'm better than you

Is this a egg alt account from Planetsmasher?

[TylenolJones]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/owlcat-is-using-gen-ai-during-the-expanse-osiris-reborns-development-but-insists-everything-in-the-final-version-will-definitely-100-human-made.1474675/

We hate crunch at Resetera except if you try to use ai tools to alleviate crunch, in that case crunch is awesome!!!

Easy skip. Weird to use it for The Expanse IP as well. Like if you're working on the shitty wizard boy franchise, many of those fans probably wouldn't notice or care if Gen AI is used, whether it's for pre-production or not since the books are mostly averaged out slop. For the more niche sci-fi series of The Expanse, I imagine those readers/show watchers would likely be more sensitive to the news of Gen AI being used to create the game world or scripts

[Greatness Gone]

Owlcat games have about 1,000 moving pieces associated with them between gameplay systems and story choices. Of all studios, it makes sense for them to use AI to help save time and rein in ideas. I just spent 90 hours on Rogue Trader and that was me trying to rush through it really quick. I think people who’ve never played their games before don’t understand how much handcrafted content is in them.

[Boredfrom]

Fucking Austin Walker acting like he is an artist and not a wannabe culture writer  trapped in the vidja industry.  

And, for better or worse, I imagine that a lot of video game developers are not artists and don’t see themselves as that, so maybe that’s why they think they can use AI as a “shortcut”, specially when they see wannabes artists seething and insecure about it.

I dunno, I don’t like AI, but I hate the notion that “is uncreative”. And I hate how the worst creative people are trying to dictate how to use it (both sides in general  ).

[Jansen]

Member only:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mental-health-era-ot2-community-and-understanding.95803/page-96#post-153070456

Got attacked on the bus the other day. Trying to stay strong but today we had another drugged out loud fucker and I am just so fucking scared of the world right now. Pure beau is afraid feeling right now. Keep in mind I was stabbed in the stomach in West Virginia so even after moving in never safe anymore. I'm proud being trans but I hate living trans in this god damn world sometimes. I'm not seeking pity mind you I'm fucking powerful. I'm not a defensive less stereotype. I'm not a victim, I'm injured but I'm better than you

The wounds continue to be self-inflicted

[Boredfrom]

Owlcat games have about 1,000 moving pieces associated with them between gameplay systems and story choices. Of all studios, it makes sense for them to use AI to help save time and rein in ideas. I just spent 90 hours on Rogue Trader and that was me trying to rush through it really quick. I think people who’ve never played their games before don’t understand how much handcrafted content is in them.

The only thing that ERA does with this kind of bitching is encouraging developers to not disclose when they are using AI. 

I like that people disclose that are using AI, but just to know where it come from, and I found that idea of “you shouldn’t care” assholish… at the same time, people shouldn’t go apeshit mad because a proven developer leave an AI asset in wild and pretend is the end of humanity.

[Potato]

This thread is going to be a gold mine.

Wildly sexist. So they ban trans women, but trans dudes can still compete? I assume it's because they see trans women as men and thus superior to women and on the flipside they see Trans men as women and thus inferior to men?

So close...

I wouldn't say close...they hit the nail right on the head.

How much would it blow their minds to learn that 90% of the world population thinks exactly this?

[Potato]

Meanwhile fatties who are so fat they can’t sit in chairs

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-am-on-my-like-4th-office-chair.1473931/

Man, these aren't just everyday office chairs either...

[Straight Edge]

Resetera or Stormfront

Black women are too manly to play sports with white women.

[Uncle]

I dunno, I don’t like AI, but I hate the notion that “is uncreative”.

AI won't be creative for you, that's always been incredibly obvious, look how many users are like "anime girl, hot, sexy, kimono" all day long

yes technically it could be argued to invent creative details for you, like if you ask for a castle it will make choices about where to place windows and how they are shaped if you don't specify that yourself, but that's not really the essence of creativity, you still asked for just a fuckin' castle and that's boring on its own without context to make it interesting

you will always be able to tell the difference between a slop AI user and a creative one, usually if the person is creative you won't even be able to tell it's AI because they put so much of themselves in the idea, it's something you won't have seen before

[Mediocre Lager]

The games industry is unsustainable! Games need to cost less to make!

No! You can't use AI!

No! You can't lay people off!

No! You can't crunch!

No! You can't pay people less!

No! You can't raise prices!!

[Uncle]

anyway here's a video

[D3RANG3D]

[malfoyking]

Laying the groundwork for "oops! That was just placeholder art" as soon as somebody notices

Which defeats the whole purpose of using as final product given the cost to replace it and how hawkish are the anti AI community. 

I really fucking hate the anti Ai absolutism, no compromise even when the devs agree with you. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/owlcat-is-using-gen-ai-during-the-expanse-osiris-reborns-development-but-insists-everything-in-the-final-version-will-definitely-100-human-made.1474675/

If you can't find "direction" or "inspiration" to make a game without AI maybe you aren't creative or talented enough to make a game in the first place.

 

Random asshole on the Internet to a veteran developer: you got not talent or creativity.

They are just... assholes. Like they are legitimately unlikeable assholes. No wonder they are always depressed and angry.

[Besticus Maximus]

HBO max was out today, so while I was being paid to work instead I watched the heaven's gate documentary. Anyway, there's a bit in the middle where the guy decides right, we're all getting castrated, and everyone is rushing to be the first one to get their balls sorted, then they all stand around to watch the first one and it goes wrong so the prophet says 'oh dear Ive made a horrible mistake, someone call the police for my own good, im not well' and they were all like no actually will smith was right, talked him out of it and carried on with fewer ball surgeries

[benji]

 "lazy dev rhetoric"
 "using an automated tool, perhaps because you don't have the amassed capital to pay an untold number of workers or simply because you wish to pre-visualize something, means you're not creative or talented enough to make a game in the first place"

[Potato]

Imagine looking like death warmed up and describing others as ghouls...

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/owlcat-is-using-gen-ai-during-the-expanse-osiris-reborns-development-but-insists-everything-in-the-final-version-will-definitely-100-human-made.1474675/

We hate crunch at Resetera except if you try to use ai tools to alleviate crunch, in that case crunch is awesome!!!

Easy skip. Weird to use it for The Expanse IP as well. Like if you're working on the shitty wizard boy franchise, many of those fans probably wouldn't notice or care if Gen AI is used, whether it's for pre-production or not since the books are mostly averaged out slop. For the more niche sci-fi series of The Expanse, I imagine those readers/show watchers would likely be more sensitive to the news of Gen AI being used to create the game world or scripts

Completely nonsensical assumption. The story and world of Expanse has nothing to do with AI, so why assume the audience would care?

[Uncle]

 "lazy dev rhetoric"
 "using an automated tool, perhaps because you don't have the amassed capital to pay an untold number of workers or simply because you wish to pre-visualize something, means you're not creative or talented enough to make a game in the first place"

god I hate the "if you can't pay you shouldn't do the thing in the first place"



"minimum wage? if you can't pay your restaurant employees a LIVING wage, you shouldn't own a restaurant in the first place"

"ok so I automated the ordering systems and fired the servers so we only have cooks now and can pay each of them double"

"NO UR NOT ALOWED 2 USE AUTOMATION!!!!"

[jooseloose]

anyway here's a video

3m 12s

[Uncle]

Imagine looking like death warmed up and describing others as ghouls...

   

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-women-to-be-banned-from-the-2028-olympic-games-eligibility-will-be-determined-by-a-once-in-a-lifetime-sex-test.1473883/page-3#post-153064660

There honestly should not be threads for either of these here.

From the Constructive thread:

I think it's probably a good time to have a discussion of not having threads for the World Cup or Olympics coming up, or at the very least quarantine threads for them like WWE, and having a banner at the bottom of the thread explaining why.

We are not banning the world cup. Seriously.

Browbeating your allies into submission in smaller and smaller public spaces sure sounds like a winning strategy. How's that working out for you in the privacy of the ballot box?

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-women-to-be-banned-from-the-2028-olympic-games-eligibility-will-be-determined-by-a-once-in-a-lifetime-sex-test.1473883/page-3#post-153064660

From the Constructive thread:

We are not banning the world cup. Seriously.

B-dubs reaching his "pound sand" limit

Just another mediocre white man promoted beyond his abilities. Let the non-binary black feminist socialist revolutionary furry pharmacy shelf stacker run the show and see how much better Resetera can really be!!