Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Member only:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/today-i-found-out-that-my-maga-brother-in-law-created-a-fake-account-to-take-screen-shots-of-my-social-media-posts-to-send-to-my-wife%E2%80%99s-maga-mom.1482901/

So yeah. About two years ago, I got a friend request from an high school acquaintance. I actually had fond memories of him as he was very cool to me when I was going through an awkward phase in my life, so I accepted without thinking too much about it.

Yesterday, I get a message from the actual person saying, "Hey man, this is really me. We had *insert teacher name/period only he would know* together. Someone's been using my name and picture."

24 hours later, my wife's sister messages to say her brother confessed to it all. That he had found a guy in my graduating class and used it to take screen shots to send to my wife's mom after I had blocked her, him, and their entire extended MAGA family.

Weird night to be sure.

[BananaBlast]

Wait a minute...that's just Echoes the WLW warrior!!!

I forgot Echoes made a thread about a "T&A (tits and ass) all star fighting game", where not only did people get permabanned for criticizing him, but burka thread regulars defended Echoes and the inclusion of sexy characters they usually bitch about.

The fact that ventuno, coffeecat, PallasKitten, etc. didn't say a single peep towards Echoes in that thread, but now claim "all sexualization is problematic and harmful to some degree, so there are no good exceptions" means they're even faker than the already ultra fake bullshit they're on.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

• The content rarely reckons with all the Bad Shit that comes with being trans: discrimination, access to care, financial impacts, legal hurdles, everyday stress, etc.
  

The only game that would reckon with all that shit would be a game that is entirely about that shit. Ain't no one gonna wanna play "Being Trans Sucks" you absolutely fucking moron.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

• guy who says he is a girl but never even attempts to pass, no voice training, doesn't bother to shave because depressed, still has a penis
  
• even though he says he is a girl he rejects the binary and does not enjoy anything girly, he likes video games and Warhammer 40K.
  
• he is relentlessly bullied by his peers for trying to say he's a woman, in light of the above
  

Wait a minute...that's just Echoes the WLW warrior!!!

Fixed.

[BananaBlast]

The only game that would reckon with all that shit would be a game that is entirely about that shit. Ain't no one gonna wanna play "Being Trans Sucks" you absolutely fucking moron.

And then if it doesn't get a single thing right, or it just offends someone in some completely random arbitary way, they'll still slam it as transphobic

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Maybe GTA6 could include a "Gotta Dilate" mini-game, without any other indication that the character is trans.

[Uncle]

• The content rarely reckons with all the Bad Shit that comes with being trans: discrimination, access to care, financial impacts, legal hurdles, everyday stress, etc.
  

The only game that would reckon with all that shit would be a game that is entirely about that shit. Ain't no one gonna wanna play "Being Trans Sucks" you absolutely fucking moron.

tbh people do, but they're all itch.io indie games like "my story, my truth" made in a weekend and played by about 5 people on their discord who shower them with praise, and then later it gets added to the "support for ukraine" megabundle where it's one of 500 games you get that are all like that

[Boredfrom]

Dunno why it's a feel good story that a likely war criminal that probably dropped bombs on civilians was saved tbh.

I don't get it either. These people are flying around bombing innocent Iranians and I'm supposed to be happy they're safe?

 

And is funnier because in other thread they were demanding a military cup.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2026-us-and-israel-launches-strike-on-iran-khamenei-killed-israel-invades-lebanon.1449391/page-342#post-153423694

[Boredfrom]

I don't understand how the other Gulf states who are caught in the crossfire of this war are not going harder on the diplomatic front to get it to stop. Do they all just hate Iran this much? Afraid of appearing "weak" to Trump?

None of this makes sense in a rational way.

Victim Blaming? 

Also:

“Why the European Union is not helping the U.S.? They are also hurt by Iran and the blockade.”

[Polident]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/april-1-2026-trump-to-address-the-nation-and-basically-tell-everybody-how-great-he-is-scheduled-for-9pm-et.1479298/page-8#post-153319792

  User banned (1 week): trolling

Quick reminder the Democrats lost to this guy. Twice.

Mods believe it was three times…so far. Patriots in control 

[benji]

I don't understand how the other Gulf states who are caught in the crossfire of this war are not going harder on the diplomatic front to get it to stop. Do they all just hate Iran this much? Afraid of appearing "weak" to Trump?

None of this makes sense in a rational way.

If only there was some kind of great repository of information where one could easily investigate such things. Alas, he'll just have to wait for a two hour YouTube video from some rando who specializes in media analysis of children's programming.

I like that he doesn't bother to ask why Iran, upon being attacked by USreal, immediately attacked a bunch of its neighbors in his search for a rational explanation.

[Boredfrom]

Shinobi legit thinks that some of the attacks against others Gulf states are false flags because Iran denies involvement.

[Potato]

So, what you're saying is that in order to survive, I need to lead a revolution which destroys capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy and installs me as leader and supreme truthspeaker who can do or say no wrong? Otherwise you're genociding me?

Absolutely. Remember that anything you don't like is a failure of the system that controls everything, likely due to malevolent forces aligned against you manipulating it to harm you. The only solution is the complete and total recreation of everything in the image you desire. This is why anyone who shows their whole ass by wanting something different is going mask about how they want you dead. There simply is no choice between your basic survival and the mass conspiracy against you.

Great historical prophets like Trump, Marx and Hitler knew this is why they hadn't achieved the respect from society they deserved and a total revolution was needed, are you saying they were just losers looking for excuses that absolved them of their choices instead of people who grasped the true meaning of History? What's next? Bringing up how Hitler always got his way with the other Nazis by threatening to either quit or kill himself? How all three of these guys believe that them having to compromise with anyone else is a display of weakness and a total victory for their enemies? No wonder you don't see the historic importance of Concord and Marathon succeeding while Harry Potter and Israel is consigned to the dust bin of History. Try breaking out of your ignorant bubble and watching that one Black guy or that other trans woman on YouTube as the first step towards understanding the material forces of History and why it's about the need for solidarity in prioritizing your survival.

Pound sand and eat my whole arse

[Nintex]

link

(That said, I do think gooner games have a right to exist. Shit like Nikke grosses me out, but I know I would 100% be there if there was a male version, so it'd be hypocritical of me to say it shouldn't be a thing at all lol.)

"I'm disgusted by anime girls wobbling their bootycheeks, but I'd totally salivate and goon over if it was anime men." 

He had to make sure to point it out

Only speaking for my own opinions here, but I'm honestly okay with sexualization IF it's appropriate for the game in question, is only a small portion of the game if not relevant to its story/themes, actually fits the character, and--most importantly for me--is equal opportunity. If you have female characters going around in bikini armor, I wanna see some pretty non-male-fantasy dudes *also* in bikini armor. If a character is a lawyer or something I'm supposed to take seriously, don't freaking design them with their ass hanging out. If you want to be horny but the game's point isn't to be horny, include it as an option but make sure there are plenty of non-horny alternatives and, again, make it equal opportunity.

(That said, I do think gooner games have a right to exist. Shit like Nikke grosses me out, but I know I would 100% be there if there was a male version, so it'd be hypocritical of me to say it shouldn't be a thing at all lol.)

The rub, though, is that there is barely anything out there of note that panders to women in the same way a shit ton of games pander to men. Some JRPGs have thrown out a few bones over the years (FF and NieR come to mind), but that's feeling less and less common these days, and even then the sexualization was always still incredibly lopsided. I haven't played it myself so could be off base here, but I always got the impression Hades was fairly equal opportunity and tasteful with its depictions of sexualization? And then I suppose there's LaDS in the gacha scene, but it's pretty much the only major example out of dozens of equal or higher quality sexualized waifu games. Otherwise.... yeah, I'm drawing blanks. Against the dozens upon dozens *upon dozens* of games I could list off that sexualize tf outta women.

And so, when the entire industry is just so ridiculously lopsided across the board like things are now, to the point that the status quo is basically "Men = Heroes; Women = Sex Objects (and maybe also heroes, but *sexy* heroes)," it kinda makes pretty much every instance of female sexualization inherently problematic just by virtue of feeding further into that existing imbalance. And I don't think it *should* be this way, but the reality is what it is.

So, imo, until we reach a point where the rampant sexualization of women is reduced, sexualization as a whole is turned more equal, and "men = heroes; women = sex objects" is no longer the default state of things, it's just not gonna be possible to find an example truly devoid of any issues at all. (And even then, even if we did ever manage to reach that point, sex is such a messy topic that there will undoubtedly always be reasons for someone out there to find depictions of sexualization problematic.)

These days men are the sex objects and that’s not even up for debate. Just look at movie henchmen. Even they are perfectly groomed, chiseled and 10/10 looks maxxed compared to the guys that raided Nakatomi Plaza. Poor Jonah Hill starved himself because there is no more room for the fat funny guy.

[Nintex]

FROM PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP

WE GOT HIM! My fellow Americans, over the past several hours, the United States Military pulled off one of the most daring Search and Rescue Operations in U.S. History, for one of our incredible Crew Member Officers, who also happens to be a highly respected Colonel, and who I am thrilled to let you know is now SAFE and SOUND! This brave Warrior was behind enemy lines in the treacherous mountains of Iran, being hunted down by our enemies, who were getting closer and closer by the hour, but was never truly alone because his Commander in Chief, Secretary of War, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and fellow Warfighters were monitoring his location 24 hours a day, and diligently planning for his rescue. At my direction, the U.S. Military sent dozens of aircraft, armed with the most lethal weapons in the World, to retrieve him. He sustained injuries, but he will be just fine. This miraculous Search and Rescue Operation comes in addition to a successful rescue of another brave Pilot, yesterday, which we did not confirm, because we did not want to jeopardize our second rescue operation. This is the first time in military memory that two U.S. Pilots have been rescued, separately, deep in Enemy Territory. WE WILL NEVER LEAVE AN AMERICAN WARFIGHTER BEHIND! The fact that we were able to pull off both of these operations, without a SINGLE American killed, or even wounded, just proves once again, that we have achieved overwhelming Air Dominance and Superiority over the Iranian skies. This is a moment that ALL Americans, Republican, Democrat, and everyone else, should be proud of and united around. We truly have the best, most professional, and lethal Military in the History of the World. GOD BLESS AMERICA, GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS, AND HAPPY EASTER TO ALL!

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/not-all-ice-cream-in-the-freezer-aisle-is-actually-real-ice-cream-anymore-usa.1482826/page-6#post-153423610

Given this seems to be a case of misinformation mixed with AI slop, this thread is locked.

[Daffy Duck]

Maybe GTA6 could include a "Gotta Dilate" mini-game, without any other indication that the character is trans.

I hope you have to do bath tub med runs to keep up your female looks otherwise you morph into a dude

[Potato]

If any developer decided to just put a Melody Shreds type character into a game, could you imagine the absolute shitbin that thread would be? They would be totally offended that the trans testicle didn't completely 100% pass and it would be offensive to have the male pattern baldness visible to the world.

[Daffy Duck]

If any developer decided to just put a Melody Shreds type character into a game, could you imagine the absolute shitbin that thread would be? They would be totally offended that the trans testicle didn't completely 100% pass and it would be offensive to have the male pattern baldness visible to the world.

Hey chud, females can have male pattern baldness too. Transphobe.

[Snoopy]

Ree are seriously pissed that pilot was rescued

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2026-us-and-israel-launches-strike-on-iran-khamenei-killed-israel-invades-lebanon.1449391/page-343

They were salivating at the thought of the Iranians parading him in front of the cameras

[Daffy Duck]

Ree are seriously pissed that pilot was rescued

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2026-us-and-israel-launches-strike-on-iran-khamenei-killed-israel-invades-lebanon.1449391/page-343

They were salivating at the thought of the Iranians parading him in front of the cameras

Ghouls

[Chumbawumbafan69]

I don't usually call people this, but Zeo is a literal NPC. If he sees the word "retard" he is psychologically incapable of responding in any way other than "I see you're the kind of person who uses slurs, that means you're the one who is retarded- I mean stupid." I wonder if he was called that as a child or something, what else explains such a Pavlovian response?

Seems obvious it's because it's the ultimate weapon on the forum in which he's a minor celebrity. Using a no-no word means people can ignore everything else about your message.

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/seinfeld-pioneered-revolutionized-invented-x-trope-in-comedy-the-myth-and-the-american-centric-way-the-internet-discusses-media.1483015/


Speaking of Echos, hes built another strawman to whine about. Dude makes up shit to cry about

This might ruffle a few feathers but does annoy me sometimes in media online discussion that American and some Non-American users can often come across American Centric or unintentionally pushing American Exceptionalism (which is of course not exclusive to Americans, we Brits can very bad for this as well, especially in acting like our Shows are inherently better then American or Continental Europe). Often acting as if American media is automatically or inherently better/more important, Non-American media that helped pioneer genres and tropes are completely erased and ignored from the discussion, American media treated with less scrutiny then media from other parts of the world; or crediting American works for "investing" or "pioneering" tropes, that well, they didn't.

Seinfeld is a perfect example of this. So often I've seen this show claimed to be revolutionary, that it pioneered and "invented" a style of comedy that never existed before it; and most annoyingly, it's fans claim that the only people who don't like the show are younger people who are more familiar with newer works that MUST have copied from Seinfeld (so much so TV tropes pulls this shit). And quite frankly... No. Seinfeld only did that if you ignore the rest of the world and even then it's a big exaggeration.

Like the idea that Seinfeld (a show from 1993) "pioneered" concepts like the Unsympathetic comedy protagonist, being a "show about nothing"/Slice of life, The concept of having the multiple running plots somehow intersect with each other in the climax, long, rambling, seemingly improvised conversation between characters about something that is beyond pointless, frank discussion about sexuality... No, Seinfeld did not pioneer this, like at all. In the UK (where Seinfeld wasn't shown much and had little influence), all of these concepts and tropes had been common in UK comedies for decades before 1993.
Unsympathetic protagonists? Oh hello Black Adder, Del Boy, Basil Fawlty etc.
"Shows about nothing"/Slice of life? Oh hello Last of the Summer Wine, Only Fools and Horses, Monty Python, Open All Hours, Steptoe and Son, The Young Ones and many many MANY more.
Multiple storylines/subplots that context? Many UK comedies had that, Red Dwarf being a big one for me.
Long rambling pointless discussions?

Yet I've seen people ignore this or act British and other nation's creatives MUST have be inspired or copying Seinfeld despite again, Seinfeld not being that relevant in the UK and other parts of the world, especially compared to other American comedies like Cheers.

Side note (you can ignore this as this is a tangent): I bring up Red Dwarf a lot because it's inspirations also point out even in the context of American works, Seinfeld wasn't as revolutionary as it's so often claimed to be. Doug Naylor and Rob Grant have been rather open about their inspirations when it came to Red Dwarf and their forms of comedy, one of the big ones being American Sitcom Taxi (with Dave Lister himself originally conceived in part as an expy of Christopher Llyod's character of Reverend Jim which is pretty obvious if you've ever watch the Assembly Cut version of Red Dwarf's pilot 'The End').

And again this happens a lot with genre discussion like with evolution of the Slasher subgenre, I've seen so many videos and discussions discuss solely American works like Psycho, Black Christmas and Halloween but will completely erase and ignore that a lot of tropes and norms in Slashers originate for Non-American works like Itallian Giallo literature and films. Or how it seems like when people discuss "prestige" media (honestly I dislike this snobbish term) it's nearly exclusively up until the past few years been about American media, to the point people claim American works like The Sparanos "invented" the idea, as if only Americans could make or have made high budget quality media, that only America's "Golden Age of TV" mattered. You even see this discussion in video games like with Fighting games where only the history of American and Japanese fighting game communities are acknowledged, with the rest of the world is erased and ignored (especially during discussion of the "dark age" of Fighting game which itself is a term with massive holes in it).

And we're just discussing TV, Film and Video games on the past 50-60 years, if we go further back with radio, literature, plays, we further see that claiming American media (along with UK media and many modern nations) invented certain tropes, themes and idea is really damn silly as most of these tropes existed for hundreds to thousands of years in many different form around the world. Truly original ideas rarely if ever happen and that's okay, media is built on building on the works of the past.

To be clear, I'm not trying to shame people here or pull a "Americans are stupid!" shit (Brits aren't ones to talk in that regard), it's only natural for people to be most familiar with media from their home nation (or became popular in their home nation) and given how American centric and how American users dominate online English-Speaking spaces, it's logical that American media would get the most focus.

What I do hope is people to do more research before they making bold statements and not automatically assume (again not just Americans, but people in general) and try to be more well-versed in culture that isn't their own.

[killamajig]

Harry Potter ads are too much for these brave trans warriors

Okay I'm getting giant Harry Potter ads now, can we fuck that off please?

Yup. Giant fucking take over ad for Cursed Child.
Browser: Chrome
Platform: Desktop
URL: Not sure how to get it. Don't have an option to copy a URL when right clicking.

I'm also getting the HP ad. Firefox, desktop, literally on this page right now.

I'll see what I can do.

Harry Potter ads every page as already reported

[Nintex]

Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP

It's real


Praise be to Allah

[Nintex]

"If Iran does not quickly agree to a deal, I think everything will be destroyed and the oil will be seized.

You will see how bridges and power plants collapse all over the country.

I think I will be able to reach an agreement tomorrow.

There is a good chance that there will be an agreement tomorrow — negotiations are already underway.

We have sent a lot of weapons to Iranian protesters, and also weapons to the Kurds, and I think the Kurds kept those weapons." – says Donald Trump.

People speaking on behalf of Iran have been temporarily granted amnesty so that negotiations can continue.

"If they don't make a deal and fast, I'm considering blowing everything up and taking over the oil", Trump tells Fox News

We're heading for a humanitarian disaster for 92 million people, a civil war between the Kurds and Arabs and $300 - $500 for a barrel of oil 

[Snoopy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/seinfeld-pioneered-revolutionized-invented-x-trope-in-comedy-the-myth-and-the-american-centric-way-the-internet-discusses-media.1483015/


Speaking of Echos, hes built another strawman to whine about. Dude makes up shit to cry about

This might ruffle a few feathers but does annoy me sometimes in media online discussion that American and some Non-American users can often come across American Centric or unintentionally pushing American Exceptionalism (which is of course not exclusive to Americans, we Brits can very bad for this as well, especially in acting like our Shows are inherently better then American or Continental Europe). Often acting as if American media is automatically or inherently better/more important, Non-American media that helped pioneer genres and tropes are completely erased and ignored from the discussion, American media treated with less scrutiny then media from other parts of the world; or crediting American works for "investing" or "pioneering" tropes, that well, they didn't.

Seinfeld is a perfect example of this. So often I've seen this show claimed to be revolutionary, that it pioneered and "invented" a style of comedy that never existed before it; and most annoyingly, it's fans claim that the only people who don't like the show are younger people who are more familiar with newer works that MUST have copied from Seinfeld (so much so TV tropes pulls this shit). And quite frankly... No. Seinfeld only did that if you ignore the rest of the world and even then it's a big exaggeration.

Like the idea that Seinfeld (a show from 1993) "pioneered" concepts like the Unsympathetic comedy protagonist, being a "show about nothing"/Slice of life, The concept of having the multiple running plots somehow intersect with each other in the climax, long, rambling, seemingly improvised conversation between characters about something that is beyond pointless, frank discussion about sexuality... No, Seinfeld did not pioneer this, like at all. In the UK (where Seinfeld wasn't shown much and had little influence), all of these concepts and tropes had been common in UK comedies for decades before 1993.
Unsympathetic protagonists? Oh hello Black Adder, Del Boy, Basil Fawlty etc.
"Shows about nothing"/Slice of life? Oh hello Last of the Summer Wine, Only Fools and Horses, Monty Python, Open All Hours, Steptoe and Son, The Young Ones and many many MANY more.
Multiple storylines/subplots that context? Many UK comedies had that, Red Dwarf being a big one for me.
Long rambling pointless discussions?

Yet I've seen people ignore this or act British and other nation's creatives MUST have be inspired or copying Seinfeld despite again, Seinfeld not being that relevant in the UK and other parts of the world, especially compared to other American comedies like Cheers.

Side note (you can ignore this as this is a tangent): I bring up Red Dwarf a lot because it's inspirations also point out even in the context of American works, Seinfeld wasn't as revolutionary as it's so often claimed to be. Doug Naylor and Rob Grant have been rather open about their inspirations when it came to Red Dwarf and their forms of comedy, one of the big ones being American Sitcom Taxi (with Dave Lister himself originally conceived in part as an expy of Christopher Llyod's character of Reverend Jim which is pretty obvious if you've ever watch the Assembly Cut version of Red Dwarf's pilot 'The End').

And again this happens a lot with genre discussion like with evolution of the Slasher subgenre, I've seen so many videos and discussions discuss solely American works like Psycho, Black Christmas and Halloween but will completely erase and ignore that a lot of tropes and norms in Slashers originate for Non-American works like Itallian Giallo literature and films. Or how it seems like when people discuss "prestige" media (honestly I dislike this snobbish term) it's nearly exclusively up until the past few years been about American media, to the point people claim American works like The Sparanos "invented" the idea, as if only Americans could make or have made high budget quality media, that only America's "Golden Age of TV" mattered. You even see this discussion in video games like with Fighting games where only the history of American and Japanese fighting game communities are acknowledged, with the rest of the world is erased and ignored (especially during discussion of the "dark age" of Fighting game which itself is a term with massive holes in it).

And we're just discussing TV, Film and Video games on the past 50-60 years, if we go further back with radio, literature, plays, we further see that claiming American media (along with UK media and many modern nations) invented certain tropes, themes and idea is really damn silly as most of these tropes existed for hundreds to thousands of years in many different form around the world. Truly original ideas rarely if ever happen and that's okay, media is built on building on the works of the past.

To be clear, I'm not trying to shame people here or pull a "Americans are stupid!" shit (Brits aren't ones to talk in that regard), it's only natural for people to be most familiar with media from their home nation (or became popular in their home nation) and given how American centric and how American users dominate online English-Speaking spaces, it's logical that American media would get the most focus.

What I do hope is people to do more research before they making bold statements and not automatically assume (again not just Americans, but people in general) and try to be more well-versed in culture that isn't their own.

Lol. No one's taking his bullshit this time. Expect him to run off to community and cry about being bullied before thread locked

[killamajig]

he also bumped his bday thread yesterday and today since he only got 4 replies. The baby needs attention

https://www.resetera.com/threads/random-meandering-birthday-thoughts-my-fanon-on-classical-mythology.1478971/#post-153417814

EchosoftheFreak doesn't realize probably half the forum has him on ignore

obligatory

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/seinfeld-pioneered-revolutionized-invented-x-trope-in-comedy-the-myth-and-the-american-centric-way-the-internet-discusses-media.1483015/


Speaking of Echos, hes built another strawman to whine about. Dude makes up shit to cry about

This might ruffle a few feathers but does annoy me sometimes in media online discussion that American and some Non-American users can often come across American Centric or unintentionally pushing American Exceptionalism (which is of course not exclusive to Americans, we Brits can very bad for this as well, especially in acting like our Shows are inherently better then American or Continental Europe). Often acting as if American media is automatically or inherently better/more important, Non-American media that helped pioneer genres and tropes are completely erased and ignored from the discussion, American media treated with less scrutiny then media from other parts of the world; or crediting American works for "investing" or "pioneering" tropes, that well, they didn't.

this is easily solved, just like how we get endlessly-drilled-down-on firsts at awards shows like "kpop demon hunters features the first female korean protagonists in an ANIMATED movie," just say red dwarf was the first sci fi and seinfeld was the first set in new york modern day

 

everyone wants to be fuckin first, fine, everything's the first of something

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/seinfeld-pioneered-revolutionized-invented-x-trope-in-comedy-the-myth-and-the-american-centric-way-the-internet-discusses-media.1483015/


Speaking of Echos, hes built another strawman to whine about. Dude makes up shit to cry about

This might ruffle a few feathers but does annoy me sometimes in media online discussion that American and some Non-American users can often come across American Centric or unintentionally pushing American Exceptionalism (which is of course not exclusive to Americans, we Brits can very bad for this as well, especially in acting like our Shows are inherently better then American or Continental Europe). Often acting as if American media is automatically or inherently better/more important, Non-American media that helped pioneer genres and tropes are completely erased and ignored from the discussion, American media treated with less scrutiny then media from other parts of the world; or crediting American works for "investing" or "pioneering" tropes, that well, they didn't.

Seinfeld is a perfect example of this. So often I've seen this show claimed to be revolutionary, that it pioneered and "invented" a style of comedy that never existed before it; and most annoyingly, it's fans claim that the only people who don't like the show are younger people who are more familiar with newer works that MUST have copied from Seinfeld (so much so TV tropes pulls this shit). And quite frankly... No. Seinfeld only did that if you ignore the rest of the world and even then it's a big exaggeration.

Like the idea that Seinfeld (a show from 1993) "pioneered" concepts like the Unsympathetic comedy protagonist, being a "show about nothing"/Slice of life, The concept of having the multiple running plots somehow intersect with each other in the climax, long, rambling, seemingly improvised conversation between characters about something that is beyond pointless, frank discussion about sexuality... No, Seinfeld did not pioneer this, like at all. In the UK (where Seinfeld wasn't shown much and had little influence), all of these concepts and tropes had been common in UK comedies for decades before 1993.
Unsympathetic protagonists? Oh hello Black Adder, Del Boy, Basil Fawlty etc.
"Shows about nothing"/Slice of life? Oh hello Last of the Summer Wine, Only Fools and Horses, Monty Python, Open All Hours, Steptoe and Son, The Young Ones and many many MANY more.

Uuh, but the ones mentioned here are fairly different from Seinfeld, at least the ones I know, all of those lean very hard into absurdism which is pretty different from Seinfeld. Like Monty Python and Seinfeld are extremly different.

But also more to the point, I can't imagine it's actually an issue where you constantly run into "Seinfeld invented so and so", and if you feel different, just correct them. This is yet again echoes making a mountain out of a molehill having huge arguments that only exist in his head. In fact isn't it usually the "snoppish" position to claim that you prefer the British original? You could make the exact the same thread whining about how the "elites" don't respect the American version of The Office