Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[benji]

The reason why MTG is against Israel is because she is an American nationalist who doesn't feel we should be helping anyone. It isn't for a moral or ethical reasons. She doesn't give a fuck about Gaza, Ukraine, trans people dying, women, immigrants or fucking any of it. She is an immoral Christian nationalist and you are slurping it up because she said "Israel is committing a genocide."

But this clearly isn't true though, she's openly against Israel because they're part of a global conspiracy that harms America with things like Jewish space lasers, AIPAC and immigration. At its heart, it's the same moral and ethical reason a large chunk of Era is against Israel.

[HaughtyFrank]

Resetera: "What the fuck i love this guy now"

[davepoobond]

Hey white furries! Let’s talk about driverless vehicles. 

I'm not setting an impossible standard. You did, because you made the claim that this technology will absolutely result in a net gain in lives saved across the board. I'm simply asking you to prove it. If you can't, either retract the claim or amend it to just the basic observation that traffic deaths will go down. No need to the capitalists' job for them with grand declarations that this will have utopian impacts on life all across the planet. Like slow down, there; we have to defeat climate change first.

The 44k figure would ostensibly have to include pedestrian collisions and drunk driving crashes, as the figure apparently represents all deaths related to car crashes within a 30 day period. But let's assume it doesn't and add on 7k deaths from pedestrian hits and 13k deaths from drunk driving to the 44k. You're still not at the high end of assumed deaths from lack of healthcare in this country.

My argument is also assuming the best case scenario for Waymo: that the introduction of all self-driving cars in the US would see a total decrease down to 0 deaths from traffic collisions overnight upon implementation in the US (not possible but I'm trying to be charitable). The year over year comparison with lack of health insurance would be variable depending upon availability of insurance during any given Presidential administration, quality of insurance, any major health crises (like another pandemic), etc.. Some years would be a net positive or net negative; I'll give you that. However, given that we've just had a rollback on ACA subsidies which means an increase in people dropping from health insurance (that's me! I'm in that category, woo!) and a decrease in quality of insurance off the board, given the unemployment crisis happening now, its compounding effects on other issues such as housing affordability, food availability, etc., and the fact that the AI bros are super-fucking gung-ho on mass displacement with no real off-ramp or safety net in sight, I expect in the coming years from now for there to be more deaths from lack of access to healthcare alone than what you could offset even if you could Thanos snap every car in the US to turn it into a self-driving one right now.

But I can't see too far in the future. Who knows; maybe there will be some breaking point somewhere (those gas prices getting spicy) and Americans will finally psychologically begin to realize that we have the ability as thinking, sapient human beings to have an impact on the material world due to their physical actions and start organizing for a world where we can have self-driving cars and lack of death due to lack of access to the resources necessary to sustain life. Maybe. I dunno.

All I'm saying is a few of you are making large claims when it's not necessary. =P

First of all, that's not a good reason to not do it, and second, if the car accident rate would become zero it would undoubtedly be a huge relief for the health system, likely cutting a significant amount of patients.

it would put doctors out of work

insurance companies would make more billions of dollars because they dont have to pay it out anymore

MORE PEOPLE ALIVE = MORE GLOBAL WARMING

DO YOU PEOPLE EVEN THINK ABOUT THE COSTS OF SAVING PEOPLE'S LIVES

[benji]

 More people living also raises the amount of complacency for capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy instead of motivating revolutionary action like taking soup cans to elderly people, talking to your neighbors or sabotaging energy infrastructure.

[BIONIC]

Or playing as Lucio in Overwatch for 500 days of in-game time

[benji]

Or playing as Lucio in Overwatch for 500 days of in-game time

It's called raising awareness of Black representation, Nazi boy.

[benji]

https://x.com/SruliFruchter/status/2044539590757744932?

Resetera: "What the fuck i love this guy now"

Daredevil:



Creepy incels:



It has to suck knowing that you're a irrelevant, pathetic little bigot:

[benji]

[Jonsey]

https://x.com/SruliFruchter/status/2044539590757744932?

Resetera: "What the fuck i love this guy now"

Daredevil:



Creepy incels:



It has to suck knowing that you're a irrelevant, pathetic little bigot:

8 views what a retard

[Potato]

They didn't make it anywhere close to the amount of gay I wanted out of them so never even bothered watching either.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lttp-the-old-guard-2-what-the-hell-happened-spoilers.1491889/post-153807700


Have they ever considered watching gay media?

Does nobody else investigate action films to see if there's enough romance/sex scenes to bother watching?

This is about as much romance as I need in my action flicks.

[Potato]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in_U.S._by_year

A country where people still think it's ok to not wear a seatbelt in the back seat and drink driving tests resemble auditions for the circus has a terrible road safety record? 

[HaughtyFrank]

Zeo seriously going through replies of only fans girls to argue with people

[benji]

Zeo seriously going through replies of only fans girls to argue with people

What part of "the front lines are everywhere" did you not understand?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ilhan-omar-pushes-democrats-to-embrace-marjorie-taylor-greene-other-maga-stars-ditching-trump.1492333/page-9#post-153830314

Era should research what Tucker Carlson has actually said about Israel. It's a lot closer to their rhetoric than they would like to think.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jez-theres-a-very-very-very-big-discussion-about-the-exclusivity-stuff-going-on-right-now-internally-at-xbox.1490278/page-19#post-153792301

 User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

Stop answering questions with more questions. Either answer or don't.

nah

It wasn't a question.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ilhan-omar-pushes-democrats-to-embrace-marjorie-taylor-greene-other-maga-stars-ditching-trump.1492333/page-9#post-153830314

if you're talking about Nazis like MTG. Hey, I know that. I said I didn't like it either and that's putting it mildly.

Its not even just political figures, but the modification or abandonment of progressive stances to fit within a white nationalist/supremacist framework.

Note how language concerning trans rights, inclusivity, diversity, and civil rights have already ceded ground to a white nationalist framework. And this has purposefully been done in an attempt to seem more electorally palatable to the group of constituents who still wield outsized voting power.

We're really gonna end up with President Carlson and VP Greene, with Nick Fuentes and Candice Owens in the cabinet

Yeah, but would you really want to vote for Gavin Newsom to stop it?

I think something people need to understand is that the left has made the political calculus that shacking up with Nazis is the way forward in order to weaken US imperialism and in tandem Israel. The reason this feels particularly odious is because it upsets decades of neoliberalism that we've come to benefit from and rely on but also has continually shifted things further and further right to the point where we are at now. As a POC myself it feels pretty effin' bad to be in the crosshairs of such plans and i suspect Ilhan is well aware that she's also in that position. The left is powerless and I don't think there's a luxury of options other than this or continually clawing back every inch of power through the electoral process.

I'm not saying I like it, I'm not even saying I agree with it. The way ppl on the left like Sam Seder heck even Hasan go about this plan makes me really hesitant to think they have my best interests in mind. It makes me really really understand where the Black community is coming from when it comes to leftists not keeping that perspective in mind.

It's not just leftist anymore.
https://xcancel.com/jonfavs/status/2041540413958529086#m

The left is treading down a dangerous path.

God above, we are all completely fucked if this is the case. I just hope it isn't because if it is then we're just speed running the interwar period...

The Weimar "left" and "center" never aligned with the Nazis. The Weimar Left was literally having street battles with and murdering them. And "speed running"? Hitler leaving prison and the re-legalization of the Nazi Party to the Enabling Act was less time than since Trump has come down the escalator. Hell, the Enabling Act, boycott of Jewish businesses and Law on the Reconstruction of the Reich all came in the Nazi's first year in power.    

Trying to embrace and normalize MAGA and folks like MTG is precisely the fucking reason America is in this mess.

White people couldn't handle their own parents abhorent viewpoints and basically normalized that behavior by failing to present any consequences for holding those views.

And now we are expected to continue that tradition? Anyone pushing for that is a naive fool at best.

 

Because few people hate leftist policies as much as the dems. You should know this by now. They're just Genocide-supporting neoliberal party 2 in our two-party system and they're competing to wrangle the same subset of american swing voters that party 1 is. If that means throwing any veneer of leftist policy, endorsing genocide for that sweet AIPEC money, and throwing LGBTQ+ people under the bus they do it with a smile.

 

Now that you've got that out of your system, read the OP and see who this thread is about and what their reasoning is.

I listened to the podcast. The only thing I took away from it is that between Omar wanting to bring nazis into the tent and AoC supporting "defensive" weapons for israel until literally last week, "The Squad" might be an even more useless sheepdog entity than usual these days.

 
Oh, this guys going to get banned for speaking truth to power.

[benji]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in_U.S._by_year

A country where people still think it's ok to not wear a seatbelt in the back seat and drink driving tests resemble auditions for the circus has a terrible road safety record? 

Check out the rate back in the 1920's per million miles traveled. Hell, even into the 1950's it was five times or more the rate it is now. Interestingly, we're a bit worse than you guys today but somehow better than New Zealand.

edit: Actually, looking at the country chart, South Korea and Belgium is also worse. This probably indicates population density playing a significant factor. Australia does have a comparatively big open center which would raise miles without many populated areas.

No data on the Global South, except Mexico if you count that, so can't tell how much whiteness factors in.

[Potato]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in_U.S._by_year

A country where people still think it's ok to not wear a seatbelt in the back seat and drink driving tests resemble auditions for the circus has a terrible road safety record? 

Check out the rate back in the 1920's per million miles traveled. Hell, even into the 1950's it was five times or more the rate it is now. Interestingly, we're a bit worse than you guys today but somehow better than New Zealand.

edit: Actually, looking at the country chart, South Korea and Belgium is also worse. This probably indicates population density playing a significant factor. Australia does have a comparatively big open center which would raise miles without many populated areas.

No data on the Global South, except Mexico if you count that, so can't tell how much whiteness factors in.

Your rate per 100,000 population is double ours.

A significant number of our road death happen in regional areas driving on national highways. Particularly around mining sites in remote areas (fatigue being a significant contributing factor).

This website has you even worse than the Wikipedia data https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/road-deaths-by-country

Road death rate per 100,000 population

• US 14.2
  
• New Zealand 6.6
  
• Australia 4.5
  

[Boredfrom]

Why is ERa overthinking this? Ilhan Omar is just suddenly batting for MTG for the same reason that Arabs embraced Trump… they are single issue assholes and deep down they are probably more conservative in their beliefs than anything else.

[benji]

Your rate per 100,000 population is double ours.

Because that doesn't account for the miles traveled. I'm saying the latter figure likely doesn't account for density and someone should do so.

[Potato]

Your rate per 100,000 population is double ours.

Because that doesn't account for the miles traveled. I'm saying the latter figure likely doesn't account for density and someone should do so.

There's a joke in here about Americans jumping in their car to drive 2 minutes down the road to buy supersized fast food...

But anyway, apparently 2/3rds of road deaths happen in rural and remote areas in Australia and I think it's about the same percentage in the US (approx. 60%). I don't think population density has that much to do with it, more likely the more ruralised US and the comparatively more urbanised Australia.

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But also the sobriety tests. WTF, just use a breathalyser FFS. Both countries estimate 30% of all road fatalities involved alcohol affected drivers.

[benji]

I'm not saying Americans are better or anything, it's more that I imagine if you adjusted the statistics properly for underlying variables the first world Western nations would have little to no difference on this metric like in most of them. (Life expectancy, infant mortality, calorie intake, etc.) You can see this already when you use miles traveled, the disparity between them drops and none of them are as bad as Mexico or the US before the 1950's for example.

It's not doing this where you get Era types claiming poverty is rising in the US over the same period. Or that China somehow has less poverty.

[Besticus Maximus]

But what if the taxi drivers watch the new *arry p*tter show, what then? You can't prove they won't, ergo, I am a living god

[benji]

I bet the dumbass tech bros making the driverless cars didn't even think "but what if we did universal healthcare instead"? Yet they expect us to support this crap and destroy art for it.

[Daffy Duck]

lol

Looks like a fun time.

Ariana fits, she's good with comedy, and the new cast is great.

Actually can't wait.

This place is so devoid of any joy lol.

This is like calling people joyless if The Hangover Part 4 was announced and the reaction to the trailer was negative.

You're so joyless.

lol

What is your problem exactly?

... what?

Knowing you there's no way you found my response genuinely funny or you wouldn't have responded in a passive aggressive manner.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/focker-in-law-official-trailer-nov-25-robert-de-niro-ben-stiller-ariana-grande.1492510/page-2

Bro forgot the rule about arguing with Zeo. No response from Zeo, guess he was too busy fighting Nazis on X

[normalindividual]

Nep-nep is right to be annoyed.  First AI stopped her from becoming a renowned and successful graphic artist. Now driverless cars are ending her career as an uber driver.  Without the power to give white passengers a rating of one star how will she decolonize the USA and free the global south.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

I'll actually go see Focker in Law. We should actually support good films that are not backed by genocide (Disney) instead of Marvel sloppah flops.

[Straight Edge]

A country where people still think it's ok to not wear a seatbelt in the back seat and drink driving tests resemble auditions for the circus has a terrible road safety record? 

Check out the rate back in the 1920's per million miles traveled. Hell, even into the 1950's it was five times or more the rate it is now. Interestingly, we're a bit worse than you guys today but somehow better than New Zealand.

edit: Actually, looking at the country chart, South Korea and Belgium is also worse. This probably indicates population density playing a significant factor. Australia does have a comparatively big open center which would raise miles without many populated areas.

No data on the Global South, except Mexico if you count that, so can't tell how much whiteness factors in.

Your rate per 100,000 population is double ours.

A significant number of our road death happen in regional areas driving on national highways. Particularly around mining sites in remote areas (fatigue being a significant contributing factor).

This website has you even worse than the Wikipedia data https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/road-deaths-by-country

Road death rate per 100,000 population

• US 14.2
  
• New Zealand 6.6
  
• Australia 4.5
  

Do these stats include deaths attributed to Lord Humongous and his gay boy berserkers?

[simiansmarts]

Creepy incels:

“Why can’t I get a wife? I’m such a nice guy!!”

[jooseloose]

Someone openly calling out Messy for digging through old posts   https://www.resetera.com/threads/edge-423-ontos-cover-story-and-reviews-of-crimson-desert-pok%C3%A9mon-pokopia-marathon-people-of-note-and-life-is-strange-reunion.1490401/post-153765097