Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[DavidCroquet]

sorry that's my AI agent swarm I'm using to create a virtual bire

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/as-someone-who-loves-all-of-magic-the-gathering-the-online-discourse-for-collaborations-has-become-so-toxic.1493782/#post-153869596

You have a favorite restaurant that you've dined at for many years now. You love it because they serve high quality food and are staffed by people who care about making the experience of eating at the restaurant good. One day, you notice a new item on the menu.

Slop.

"What's this for?" You ask the waiter.

"It's for the pigs. Pigs eat slop."

Over time, a 2nd flavor of slop shows up on the menu. Then a 3rd. Then you notice some of the old menu items you used to love now come with a non-optional side of slop. All menu items are now designed with the pigs in mind, on the chance that one of them might try their hand at human food. The quality and preparation of the human food that's left on the menu also starts to degrade. When you ask the restaurant staff about it they inform you that they no longer have the resources to make sure the human food is prepared correctly; they're too busy making slop. You notice that some of the restaurant patrons that you've become good friends with have stopped showing up. You stop showing up. You are upset with the direction the restaurant is taking and post about it on social media. You get two types of replies.

1. ⁠I am a pig and I eat slop
2. ⁠The restaurant is doing so well and has so many patrons. How can you be upset? Getting more customers into the restaurant has to be a good thing.

The 2nd comment is particularly frustrating because it naively assumes that the entire restaurant clientele wants the same things. But you don't want 5 different flavors of slop. You want human food that is prepared by people who are passionate about food and who care about the experience of dining at the restaurant being a good one. It's something you used to be able to get here, but can't anymore. You don't care if there are more pigs eating at the restaurant now. You liked things just fine when there were no pigs and contrary to this sentiment, things have gotten worse for you as the restaurant has grown, not better.

 

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/as-someone-who-loves-all-of-magic-the-gathering-the-online-discourse-for-collaborations-has-become-so-toxic.1493782/#post-153870091

That's a copy pasta from one of the mtg subreddits. Sadly (and not surprisingly) it got a ton of upvotes

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/today-was-my-first-day-working-the-register-at-walmart-while-the-vendor-was-stocking-the-trading-cards-my-experience-was-insane.1494937/

Right before my break, some dude came up and asked: "do you have any One Piece card packs left?"

I said: "No, we're all out of them. Sorry."

And he said: "Fuck, I was at the Target down the street waiting for them to stock when I got the call that the guy arrived here to this Walmart and got here 30 minutes late"

I kind of just side eyed him.

Card scalpers are scum but being a Walmart employee posting at ERA is not much better.

Please move this to EtCetera not Politics USA.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Why did he side eyed him?  

[benji]

sorry that's my AI agent swarm I'm using to create a virtual bire

You're using a lot of CPU:

[Boredfrom]

So I guess we pissed somebody?

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/maga-star-flamed-for-asking-trump-to-fix-her-passport-gender/
No Ree thread.

[benji]

So I guess we pissed somebody?

The Global South:

[Boredfrom]

I'm seriously not understanding how this wasn't reported on before, this isn't like last week.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/psa-dmitry-glukhovsky-the-author-of-the-metro-book-series-who-is-directly-working-on-metro-2039-with-4a-games-is-a-zionist-and-a-genocide-denier.1494103/page-5#post-153915769

I know Arrogant Bastard is, deep down, more of a centrist than a lefty, so I dunno if he said this seriously or trying to imply that “no one cared until the new work was announced… like most of the celebrities controversies about what they said during October 11”.

[benji]

I disabled searching for Guests temporarily, sorry Guests who aren't Clankers! Logged in users will be unaffected.

The Vietcong are doing something in the first Journal archive, but that may just be because it's the first large thread by thread number. Even despite that thread being slow for whatever reason I can't imagine just viewing it would take up that much of our CPU and searching is the only thing I could think of that takes any of our resources. Also that's the most obvious way they could dig tunnels under capitalist territory.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Temporarily? How about forever?

y'all really want people to exploit our labour by allowing guests to search through our posts? Join the community co-op by signing up or get nothing.

Simple as. 

[benji]

Yesterday, a post about ExtraEmily and a website, Viewbot.ai, was posted on the subreddit. The original thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1sni5xr/extraemily_accidentally_leaks_viewbot_service) was removed by a member of our mod team. They stated: "I removed this thread because it looks like the Viewbot.ai website is a pop-up from the 67speed website that appeared when she opened it to try the challenge." Trying to do due diligence, multiple members of the mod team themselves tried, but could not recreate the pop up on our own end. We tried multiple browsers, incognito, mobile, everything, and we could not recreate the pop-up. The same mod that removed the original thread said that they did recreate the pop-up by "spamming the start button" and we took their word on it, and started to remove threads and comments that kept popping up about the situation.

More threads and comments popped up questioning why we would remove these threads and pushed back on the claims that it was a pop-up. We tried to gather more proof, but they said that they could not recreate it and suggested the pop-up may have been removed. After that, we decided to leave a post up with a more neutral title.

Today, it started to become more apparent that this moderator may have lied, or fabricated the claim of a pop-up, to seemingly protect ExtraEmily. Through more digging, we were able to confirm that they are an avid Extra Emily clipper, poster and a very active member of her community and Discord. Mods are going to have biases and be viewers, but we cannot allow that bias to influence how we moderate or what rules we follow.

We still have not been able to recreate the pop-up, and neither has other communities that tried. With all of that being said, we have decided to remove this mod from the team. We promised to be more transparent in our moderation, and if we screw up, we think it's important to be open about it. Thank you to members of the community who reached out to challenge the original claims of a pop-up.

 reddit mods apparently don't care about putting staff in danger and rewarding trolls

[carlyspam]

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

"Making unproven claims or allegations against someone with the sole intent of fueling or creating drama or damaging the public reputation of said person is not allowed. Allegations carry the burden of proof; if making such a claim, we require you back it up with evidence in the same post."

never stopped them before about kayagate?

one of the mods must have an asian fetish

[benji]

banger  

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[nachobro]

who remembers the dude on gaf who made reaction gifs of himself to post?  resetti isnt nearly as funny as gaf cause there's not as many embarrassing internet nerds and mostly just annoying faggots

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/japan-some-77-000-people-found-dead-alone-in-their-homes-in-2025.1494976/

This is fucked. Feel terrible for those people. This current form of human civilization is really not cutting it.

[Boredfrom]

Not saying that dying alone is not horrible… but this dude understands the concept of “life expectancy” and how most people were not able to live that long for most of human story?

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

banger  

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Zeo dabbing on the losers like always. 

[benji]

Not saying that dying alone is not horrible… but this dude understands the concept of “life expectancy” and how most people were not able to live that long for most of human story?

They don't care. Everything is compared to their limited utopian imagination where nothing they dislike ever happens. They believe that the only limitation that exists is human willpower, with everyone else deficient compared to them who do nothing because anything at all is too exhausting and imperfect.

Like, it's not hard. Just create a walkable community where people sit out on their porches and talk to each other and listen to street music and watch kids playing. What part of doing this are you not getting? Stop sticking to your dogma and bring this about already. Like what the fuck is your problem? Why are you against basic human decency? All I ever hear from you is "we can't" well how about "Yes, we can!"

[benji]

I can't imagine how much of a sad cunt you have to be IRL to continually post cancellation posts on ResetEra, like jesus christ my dude, go and get some friends and find something to do.

I think doops might be illiterate to post this under that rant.

[benji]

Anyway, this was in a thread bitching about the EDGE reviews thread:

[benji]

User banned (3 days): inflammatory accusations

I clocked the way they were subtly pandering to this crowd almost half a year ago, and it feels like it has just gotten increasingly blatant since then.

Idk, man, how much more plausible deniability can be claimed for this game lol. The amount of hand-waving in this thread is honestly kind of concerning. I'm playing and enjoying the game too, but come on.

                       staff dismissing concerns around pedophilia?

[Daffy Duck]

Temporarily? How about forever?

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Simple as. 

Search a post, leave a post.

[Polident]

It says so much that the lady escaped him, took out a restraining order, and married a man who likely posted #releasethesnydercut on Twitter.

[benji]

A post in that thread mentioned Ash Parrish who recently blessed this thread, so check out her takes on Pragmata, first the tweet referenced in the thread agreeing that it is "Epstein-coded":












Clocking it back in June:


Epstein Files:

[normalindividual]

Thank you to our Vietnamese Communist Comrades in the Northern Hemisphere (aka the global south) for attempting to free us from our Capitalist Ruler and his multiple genocides.  Sadly our slave master is well known in Mar-A-Lago social circles and favours were called in.

I have planted a carrot to acknowledge your sacrifice.

[Potato]

I disabled searching for Guests temporarily, sorry Guests who aren't Clankers! Logged in users will be unaffected.

The Vietcong are doing something in the first Journal archive, but that may just be because it's the first large thread by thread number. Even despite that thread being slow for whatever reason I can't imagine just viewing it would take up that much of our CPU and searching is the only thing I could think of that takes any of our resources. Also that's the most obvious way they could dig tunnels under capitalist territory.

When is the Tet holiday?

[Potato]

Lol, bitch got dumped

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-2-director-welcomes-lgbt-award-nomination-then-spends-around-175-words-explaining-that-it-doesnt-make-him-woke.1494283/

I feel like the use of the word "woke" unironically in a LGBT award nomination acceptance should be instant grounds for that nomination being rescinded.

Lmao can't help being a chud

The chuds will never accept you no matter how much you virtue/vice signal.

I just watched that Manosphere documentary on Netflix and this dude speech sounds exactly like one of those dumbass streamers.

So glad I thought this series looked boring as hell

I know we've had threads on this guy before and I know some would rather not keep hearing about him anymore so I apologize for that...but this was just too amazingly dumb not to highlight.

Its such a nice gesture/olive branch towards a guy that has been knee deep in the gamergate paint and this is how he replies to it.

What a loser

Putting the "fragile" in fragile masculinity. Can't be seen to be "weak" with all the other alphas that he hangs out with every day, right?

lol good grief what a loser

Thanks for the award, just to maker it clear I'm not gay and I actually hate you.

The fucking audacity to be recognized for something that matters to a minority group and use that to go "yea thanks, but for real, fuck WOKE right?"

"all these other games having LGBT represenation do it out of some obligation or narrative. I just like dudes. Wait don't quote me on that!"

"We made the gay community happy and gave them the CHOICE to be themselves, just like we did for others in other choices and quests, and anyone who isn't interested probably didn't even notice."

So he's crediting himself for making a gay romance that others were able to ignore, is that it? Like "Don't ask, don't tell"? What an asshole.

I won't buy anything this dude is involved with. He showed who he was from the start.

When they tell you who they are, believe them the first time.

Fuck this guy

Fuck off.

The funniest part about this is that even though he's still posturing and has been the entire time this optional gay romance was revealed, a large vocal part of his fanbase hated it and had no problems letting him know about it. It doesn't matter about it being optional (like it is in most AAA works) it's the simple fact that it acknowledges gay people existed in the middle ages which contradicts the fantasy his fans have of the pre-modern era being a sacred anti-gay ant-black christian paradise.

These people have had no problem telling us what they want. They want the world to capitulate to them and give them the fantasy they desire. Which is and always has been a fantasy where only straight white men existed and held power. Where women were either fragile tradwives answering only to their husbands or sex dolls in sting bikinis for them to jack off to.

Vavra is an idiot but the fact that he willing pushed for a gay romance option in this game suggests to me he's not as far gone as much of his base is. He deserves the criticism for what he says but there might be hope for this frog man.

I'm not so sure that this is the thread to remark that deep down he's not as bad as the other chuds

Why would a cis-het dude proudly proclaiming he did queer media right turn down an award?

Because he's a miserable shitsack white supremacist homophobe who can get all the way fucked.

(To be clear I don't think he actually will, because it's a way of validating his bigotry.)

These people are so fucking dumb. So fucking owned by grifter culture. Dipshits.

I appreciate the continued threads, because the way the talk around KCD2 turned so positive I started to think I'd hallucinated the whole proclamation about wanting to be so-called historically accurate with the first one.

"I'm not woke. Please. I hate the gays I just wrote one as a joke. DEI is bad...love me fellow Nazis. Black people amirite? Women? More like won'tmen. Right? Right! Sieg h...*hysterically sobbing in a non woke way*"

Good to know that there were others at the company he also had to convince to add it. 100% make the games skippable because there were others just like him there.

Fuck this game. I feel like an idiot for falling for folks on this site assuring everyone that it wasn't immoral to support the game.

I wish I could refund it. It was my fault, I should have known better. Lesson learned.

I wondered what the hell organization would actually nominate this shit, but I see it's a community voted category.

The fact this game series isn't banned on Resetera like the Wizard Game is wild to me. This guy fucking sucks and has sucked for the entire existence of this website. He continues to be a piece of shit with every word that comes out of his mouth, and I don't get why we need to platform his game no matter how good it may be.

I'd be happy if this piece of shit never said another word again.

Eat shit, you dumb fucking piece of shit

"By way of conclusion, Vávra would like you to know that—though the inclusion of gay romances in KCD2 "was my idea, my decision and my responsibility and I had to convince others to do it"

oh so there are other pieces of shit in that studio?

Serve that magazine right for even nominating this game.

The easy skips just keep on coming, fuck these fools

It must be tiring being so beholden to and fearful of the emotions of the worst people on the internet.

I remember when he tried to act like he had seen the light and people were kind of buying it before this game came out, so I'm not surprised that he's back to doing his previous bullshit.

"I had to convince others to do it" could that not be seen as shoving it down his coworkers' throats?

people were kind of buying it before this game came out

Kingdom Come fans always do their best to ignore that it was made by a nazi idiot, so when Vavra made the shallowest attempt to seem reformed people believed it

"I had to convince others to do it" could that not be seen as shoving it down his coworkers' throats?

It just makes it seem that the studio has a few homophobic douchebags in lead positions

And the thing is, because other developers at the studio aren't as outspoken, people thought he was just a bad apple and everyone else is progressive whenever there were pleas for boycott.

I'm much more of a "believe people when they show you who they are" kind of guy. But if that's not you, then you do you.

But again, my main point is that it feels a bit tone deaf to pick a thread where he is clearly not showing any evidence of being "better", quite the opposite in fact, to end your post by talking how deep down there's still hope for him. He casually shat on the #1 thing Era fans of the game loved to trot out in defense of the game, and did it while accepting a nomination for it at that.

Tiresome scumbag. Hopefully he'll continue distancing from Warhorse to the point of actually leaving entirely. Small hope.

Also, why is "re-educating" someone to be more respectful towards vulnerable people being framed as invasive here? The lack of respect is the inaugural invasive element that he should be worried about when accepting that award.

and this is why i will continue to not buy or interact with their shit in any capacity. fuck Daniel Vavra. he is who he said he is from day one.

No, here is as bad. But he's not as far gone which is a difference. I don't think there's anything wrong in noticing that? I think Vavra could become a better person than he is now. I hope he can one day go through the personal growth to experience that. I believe people like this can and many do change. In this fucked up depressing world, can you really chide me for having just a little hope that things could better?

Were you already aware he's a fan of Nazis? I have yet to see him denounce Burzum.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/daniel-v%C3%A1vra-creative-director-at-warhorse-studios-steps-down-to-focus-on-turning-kingdom-come-deliverance-into-a-live-action-movie-or-series.1444474/#post-151747738

I'm never going to buy anything from this guy.

I really want to study the cognitive dissonance of someone who wants to write more diverse stories but who would be afraid to be seen as "woke." Like I've never seen such a think lmao

Vavra is one of those annoying online dudes obssessed with the roman empire and history as a way to yap about how bad society is nowadays, but Vavra went so deep into the "I WILL BE ACCURATE" well that he just went and wrote gay men because its accurate

I'm never going to buy anything from this guy.

The common sense take from anyone who spent 2 seconds looking into who he was, and the apologia from people wanting to say how KCD2 represented a change was always skeevy. Gross fucking bigot shithead turns out to be a gross fucking bigot shithead, shocking.

Only clowns buy games he has worked on.

Can't we just banish this piece of shit and the Metro dude and the transphobic hag to the shadow realm already? Good grief.

And people are still going to continue to support him and his games.

Very normal behavior not inflicted by brain rot. Very normal indeed.

Yiiiiiiiikes. Any fan of Varg is not trying to hide it that much, if you ask me.

This fucking loser just keeps digging himself further and further - grrrrrl those chuds will never accept you, why are you on your knees groveling again? Scum.

He remains the main reason that I'll never bother playing their games🤷 So many seem to have forgotten that he followed Neo Nazi FB pages etc

Talk more about that, please. I wasn't even aware of that.

I'll also add that in my experience, usually it's publishers and executives pushing back on those elements because they're afraid of online backlash, or in the current era, the US government and its hate machine. Try finding me a game exec from a AAA publisher who is all about representing queer folks, POCs, women etc... I'll wait.

So all those commentators who said they were buying the game because the team probably didn't share Vavra's views...

It was my idea, my decision and my responsibility and I had to convince others to do it.

That sounds a lot to me that a lot of the team share his horrific views. Fuck this guy and the Warhorse he rode in on.

I would immediately rescind that nomination if I were them.

It was a bold move to offer an olive branch, but it was never not going to be immediately snapped in half. The "shoving it down our throats" crowd isn't ever going to change for the better.

He knows he has a chud audience and doesn't want to alienate them.

In addition to being an adult child gamergater who actually does believe this.

Anyone using woke as a pejorative should not be eligible for these awards.

Reason #192928 not to buy Vavra's shit.

if that magazine has any sort of integrity, it will rescind those nominations

Nothing to apologize for. I'm still baffled by the decision to not ban threads for this cornball's games, and have said so many times. So I hope continued attention on the matter may one day move the needle here.

Isn't it a good thing that someone we generally disagree with added this type of diversity into the mega hit game and did it very well? Still don't have to love the guy, but this is a win IMO.

Just because Hitler made the trains run on time doesn't mean I'm going to view him with any less disdain.

(CLARIFICATION: This isn't to say that Vavra is Hitler. That previous sentence is just to point out that just because an asshole winds up doing something good if they're still acting like an asshole then that doesn't make them less of an asshole. Also Hitler didn't really make the trains run on time but it was repeated so much to give him a pass on 'other things' that it still wound up sticking.)

such strange behavior.

just pick a side dude.

lol. Funny thing is the way these games get hyped about here and the subtle 'Its not that simple, look he's got no problem with queer representation' I was like, ehh, maybe I should give it a chance.

End of the day you can be on point with one side of intersectionality and be a total fail to the point of bigoted fascist in another. One of the biggest pushers of worldwide white supremacist fascism is Peter Thiel, a queer man. One of the biggest anti-Semetic podcasts is by a Black woman, etc.

Fuck Vavra.

And my decision to avoid buying these games stands true, even though I really want to play them.

I feel like if you want people to respect your publication's awards that are specifically celebrating queerness, you probably shouldn't give one to the proud bigot's game.

I'm glad that I immediately uninstalled his game 10 minutes into it. Fuck all the way off.

Had no interest in the first game when I heard some of the dev comments and they've done nothing to earn my money since then.

Vavra is an enigma. The mental gymnastics he's living through, he's a walking contradiction.

Writes what is, arguably, a very progressive ("woke") game REALLY REALLY well, but seemingly feels afraid of being labelled as such by chuds, for some reason.

Just speaks to his arrogance that he as a cis hetero male thinks he can do gay romance better than gay and queer developers.

Oh hey there it is again, the reason I don't buy their games.

Yeah, good on him for writing it (a lot of people seemed to like it) but at the same time, I think this clearly shows he's not as comfortable with it as it might initially suggest.

A lot of guys will say they're cool with it and then end up showing their ass eventually unfortunately.

It's downright suspicious to me. Why would he go out of his way to include this (and make sure it is implemented well by all accounts) when it's so uncomfortable for him so much to even discuss the topic? "Historical accuracy" doesn't really explain it away. He could have just not included it.

I will continue to side-eye anyone who supports this asshole.

So fucking funny that he is like... closeted "woke"?

We always hear about faux-progressives or whatever who secretly hold conservative views but it's like in some weird way he is the inversion of that. Wants to seem "not woke" but then goes through with making a whole gay story line option which is, by all accounts, seemingly very well-done. And even admitting that the story is there so if queer players want to choose self-representation, they can. Like my dude, what do you think "woke" is?

So maybe he is more dumb than nefarious.

He's not dumb. He knows exactly what he's doing and he knows exactly how to get people to keep talking about him.

As an RPG fan with Bohemian ancestry, I've always been interested in this series, but every time I get an urge to try it, I just remember this asshole from the gamergate days. He's really an albatross around his studio's neck at this point.

When he said he had to convince others to have this happen, we can assume the rest of the team isn't exactly super progressive.

It's never just one in situations like these.

Sometimes, I wonder if Daniel Vavra could pass a mirror test. To look at someone else's work and recognise not a "woke agenda" or whatever he would claim, but a desire to give players an opportunity to be themselves or explore another's. But no, Daniel Vavra probably didn't even notice.

Is Daniel Vavra the stupidest man in the industry ? All the evidence points to yes. He looks at the mirror and recoils, not from himself but from what he sees; that pile of seething hatred and disdain--it scares him. To look at your work and not recognise it. To be nothing but a wild animal, frenzied at the sight of some monster in the mirror. And he will just never understand that he's looking at himself.

This dude is such an embarrassment. KCD2 is an all timer and it sucks that this is the person that's tied to it. Shutting up is free Vavra (I know he won't).

At least he's supposedly being shuffled off to work on some filmed project attached to the IP from what I recall. Still, guy can kick rocks.

If we take him at his word, he had to convince people on the team it was worth including. I sincerely doubt you get a better, more inclusive game with him fucked off writing a movie or whatever. He's shit, but he's clearly not the only problem.

It's literally a pro gay button defense….. ya know there's no gay people unless you specifically tell the game you want it which isn't fucking representation. Whatever I've grown to hate the cis and the straight who don't actually want me to live along them as an equal and view me as a prop.

"I wanted the gay romance but that doesn't make me gay!" Oh Vavra you are a proper sad person.

Ugh. My brother (who's 20 years older than I am, so an Xer) gets like this. He even votes left and is the only one in my family who was supportive of me being gay, but he reflexively rolls his eyes at anything he perceives as performatively woke, even though what does and doesn't qualify as 'performative' is basically arbitrary. More than anything, he doesn't want the association for some reason - he's proud to be a leftist, but averse to the idea of being woke.

Not really sure what's going on there, to be honest.

What a baffling piece of shit man made a story with progressive gay romance, Romani representation, jewish representation and even Musa of Mali is handled crazy good.

Like you always been piece of shit with shit views why do this if don't believe it. I would love someone do an open honest interview ask him why he do such good representation on subjects he never believed in.

Piece of shit of a man. I genuinely don't understand why such a game is allowed on Era when the director is such a motherfucker with obviously bigot ass views.

idk, thats what you get?

Nothing but options and choices in the industry far and wide, if the goal is to reward an LGBT creator / project.... Im pretty fucking confident you could have found far better choices of nomination than *check notes* Kingdom Come 2

like be serious, what did you expect

I never understood how this game and cyberpunk were sort of "forgetten and forgiven" without ever seeming to change or showing any contrition. Maybe I missed something somewhere