PZT wrote:I think the overwhelming negative reaction from Gamers online though has to do with their prescriptivist ideas on what can and cannot be a game, the people of color within the game and the perceived politics of those making it, but that's the surface motivation
but on a deeper level, the most visceral negativity traces back to people who did not have friends or adventures growing up and therefore they find coming-of-age stories positioning the stuff they missed out on as universalized experiences, to be deeply upsetting to them
there's also some of the proto-Gamergate resentment that started in 2007 bubbling up, they see this as the same people who laughed at them in the form of The Big Bang Theory still coming to take their games away
it all traces back to the bullying that these people experienced in their earlier years, they say it's about game design, but it's really about their feelings of exclusion and isolation
I've been wondering when they would go after the porn subreddits since those are the only subs left allowed to exclude trans "women." Starting with hentai is a good tactical move.
They have done this before, thought, at least outside of Reddit.
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GameAddict411 wrote:Is this what happens when a bunch of Schizo leaders make a game?
I love these permas when the mods are like "no, fuck this poster in particular" and use some super tame post as a reason to exorcise them forever.
"This game looks kind of lame"
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ClickyCal' wrote:Yet he is zionist and transphobic....maybe he should lead by example by stopping being status quo neo-lib. Right message from a very wrong person.
I love Resetera in so many ways, but people tripping over themselves to get the first comment on a thread to show how progressive they are is my least favorite part.
Pete is a good candidate with good ideas, full stop.
RoninChaos wrote:Seriously. It's like people here are trying to win first in the outrage Olympics nine times out of ten and if that's how it really is, then people like Trump will always win because NO one will check the boxes people here want.
I think there is a big difference between wanting things to get better and doing things to make them get better. There was somebody in this thread that made comment that was like "so what is Pete doing to fix this"
Bro what. Is Pete is in office right now? That RIDICULOUS train of thought is a huge part of the issue. Why would Pete be doing ANYTHING about this? Republicans control all of congress, the presidency AND the supreme court.
Everyone screams that the lesser of two evils isn't good enough, but then the greater of two evils gets into power and destroys a bunch of shit, and then you blame the party that has no power and say stupid shit like"why aren't you doing anything?"
Like what the fuck are we even talking about here.
I don't understand this mindset. You can't change shit if you don't have control or power in politics and you won't get that if you don't win. You aren't going to win without having a strong and winning message that resonates with people, which is exactly what a Pete is saying here yet the FIRST RESPONSE in this thread is someone shitting on the guy with the right message.
I don't understand this mentality. How do you all think politics and power work in the United States? Because being snarky in the face of abuse doesn't count and it doesn't win shit. Neither does being smug while people you say you care about are snatched off the streets, and groups you say you care about are having their freedoms get stripped away taken away. so you care about all these groups but didn't vote for Harris because her and Trump were the same? The same Trump who is riding shotgun with Bibi and helped start a war with Iran that has put the world economy on the brink? Trump's brain is apple sauce and we have outright corruption eating through EVERYTHING. But yeah. Trump and Kamala were TOTALLY the same.
What we have to understand is that our current political structure is about harm reduction. It's not about feeling good or hope or change or any of that shit. It's about not making shit worse. It's about plugging the holes and stopping people like Trump and the republicans who want to blow everything up. HARM REDUCTION. THAT IS IT. And it's going to be about harm reduction for the majority of our lives until we put enough people in office that will turn the tide to dramatically shift things. We can't just show up for presidential election and then not do anything else for four years. The opposition didn't do that, they kept showing up and look at what they were finally able to do- they gutted voting rights, they gutted women's rights, and they are doing everything they can to walk back the last 60 years of progress because they were finally in the right place at the right time. They took advantage of the population complacency and apathy. And even after all the damage Trump did the first time around people still convinced themselves that this whole "I can't vote for the lesser of two evils" thing was the right move so we got the greater of two evils.
Bottom line, screaming down people like Pete, who are in the right here, is not helpful. And it also makes me think that no one who runs for office is ever going to live up to anyone's standards here, which is a quick way to keep losing. We can't keep making every single issue a litmus test that's disqualifying. Otherwise people like Trump are gonna keep winning and we're going to keep having things get worse and worse and worse. And I cannot believe people who claim to be progressive actually want that.
05-11-2026, 05:00 AM (This post was last modified: 05-11-2026, 05:05 AM by BananaBlast.)
(05-11-2026, 12:41 AM)Alpacx wrote: I've been wondering when they would go after the porn subreddits since those are the only subs left allowed to exclude trans "women." Starting with hentai is a good tactical move.
I still think it's flipping hilarious r/TwoXChromosomes and r/actuallesbians allow transgender women
That's like a subreddit named r/RedHairedGingers allowing bald chinese people to talk about their baldness
My dudes I got banned from the super straight porn for super straight heterosexuals subreddit because they claimed my super straight art of a dude sucking a dick wasn't heterosexual! What's more heterosexual than a super straight dude sucking a dick?
(05-11-2026, 12:38 AM)simiansmarts wrote: The mixtape discourse it’s hilarious. We’re reaching a point where some people just want to say “actually making fun of nostalgiaslop for 30-40 year old manchildren is fascist”
Yup, that's the whole agenda behind it. It's really about getting butthurt over the people they obsess over, while pretending it's about the injustice of a poor wittle game being a victim of the internet's negativity. They don't care about the (correct) discourse of a blatant industry plant that doesn't deserve 10/10 reviews. They only care about spinning it back into gamergate and the anti-woke.
It barely has any gameplay, and is only 2-3 hours long. No way in hell is that deserving of a "10/10" anywhere.
05-11-2026, 05:37 AM (This post was last modified: 05-11-2026, 05:38 AM by benji.)
(05-11-2026, 12:38 AM)simiansmarts wrote: The mixtape discourse it’s hilarious. We’re reaching a point where some people just want to say “actually making fun of nostalgiaslop for 30-40 year old manchildren is fascist”
Of course, the irony would be that the leadership of the fascists was mostly listless unemployed 30-40 year olds and the appeal of their movements was that it was a return to the order, discipline, sense and, most importantly, meaning of World War I. The last time many of them felt they had control of their lives through total submission to a cause. For those younger than them they could claim this was a time of great purpose rather than the anarchic chaos they perceived around them and with proper control over the state it could bring about another great era of meaning to their lives.
PZT wrote:but on a deeper level, the most visceral negativity traces back to people who did not have friends or adventures growing up
and therefore they find coming-of-age stories positioning the stuff they missed out on as universalized experiences, to be deeply upsetting to them
there's also some of the proto-Gamergate resentment that started in 2007 bubbling up, they see this as the same people who laughed at them in the form of The Big Bang Theory still coming to take their games away
it all traces back to the bullying that these people experienced in their earlier years, they say it's about game design, but it's really about their feelings of exclusion and isolation
It's great how their entire theory of mind is "ah, yes, allow me to project myself onto you and then tell you what you experienced." It's like when you calmly write a response to someone and they're all "dang don't get so heated and emotional!" They can only picture someone applying themselves to discussing something if they're upset and emotionally invested, never intellectual curiosity or amusement.
For PZT they can only theorize that someone wouldn't like this slop if they were somehow denied it in childhood rather than the possibility that that's entirely why someone sees it as cloyingly worthless slop. I especially liked the Big Bang Theory reference. Yeah, you should feel terrible about a show that depicts a friend group of incredibly successful males, all of whom are self-aware of their nerdness, who all find PERFECT WOMEN FOR THEM and have constant adventures.
"Yes, yes, benji, I understand, it all traces back to your feelings of exclusion and isolation..."
A more likely framework for understanding the disconnect would be between those who who invest themselves in media and those who observe media. There are some people who like to see themselves depicted in media, that like to imagine themselves as the characters experiencing those events, often these people want "representation" for this purpose. And then there are people who like to see interesting things happen to interesting characters, they have no interest in imagining themselves in that situation or as that character as some kind of escapist fantasy.
For the first group, seeing people experience things they did would bring great pleasure, they enjoy the sentimentality of the emotions connected to remembering that stuff. For the second group, it would just be boring.
It's an immense category error, and thus the focus on Era and the like, to ascribe morality to either group and spend your time trying to determine what makes your group superior. Which is why they immediately slip into actually fascist type rhetoric with lots of eliminationist talk about the outgroup. BZT is trying to describe them as essentially broken, barely human unlike us who appreciate Mixtape, so as to justify dismissing concerns. All of that thread, like all Era threads, is tinged with moralizing rhetoric and desperate attempts to form ingroups and outgroups to demonstrate moral superiority of the ingroup. Over opinions of capitalist, colonialist and white supremacist media.
Spoiler: (click to show)(click to hide)
Talk about signaling your feelings about fears of exclusion and isolation.
Quote:They were not my favorite band. Not by a long a long shot. But they became a whipping boy in many music circles. I love a good joke, but it was a excessive.
They had a very insane run and were everywhere so I can understand the overexposure, but even going back to their songs today, it's catchy stuff. Also reminds of an era where rock was slightly more mainstream.
(05-11-2026, 12:38 AM)simiansmarts wrote: The mixtape discourse it’s hilarious. We’re reaching a point where some people just want to say “actually making fun of nostalgiaslop for 30-40 year old manchildren is fascist”
Of course, the irony would be that the leadership of the fascists was mostly listless unemployed 30-40 year olds and the appeal of their movements was that it was a return to the order, discipline, sense and, most importantly, meaning of World War I. The last time many of them felt they had control of their lives through total submission to a cause. For those younger than them they could claim this was a time of great purpose rather than the anarchic chaos they perceived around them and with proper control over the state it could bring about another great era of meaning to their lives.
PZT wrote:but on a deeper level, the most visceral negativity traces back to people who did not have friends or adventures growing up
and therefore they find coming-of-age stories positioning the stuff they missed out on as universalized experiences, to be deeply upsetting to them
there's also some of the proto-Gamergate resentment that started in 2007 bubbling up, they see this as the same people who laughed at them in the form of The Big Bang Theory still coming to take their games away
it all traces back to the bullying that these people experienced in their earlier years, they say it's about game design, but it's really about their feelings of exclusion and isolation
It's great how their entire theory of mind is "ah, yes, allow me to project myself onto you and then tell you what you experienced." It's like when you calmly write a response to someone and they're all "dang don't get so heated and emotional!" They can only picture someone applying themselves to discussing something if they're upset and emotionally invested, never intellectual curiosity or amusement.
For PZT they can only theorize that someone wouldn't like this slop if they were somehow denied it in childhood rather than the possibility that that's entirely why someone sees it as cloyingly worthless slop. I especially liked the Big Bang Theory reference. Yeah, you should feel terrible about a show that depicts a friend group of incredibly successful males, all of whom are self-aware of their nerdness, who all find PERFECT WOMEN FOR THEM and have constant adventures.
"Yes, yes, benji, I understand, it all traces back to your feelings of exclusion and isolation..."
(05-11-2026, 05:52 AM)benji wrote: A more likely framework for understanding the disconnect would be between those who who invest themselves in media and those who observe media. There are some people who like to see themselves depicted in media, that like to imagine themselves as the characters experiencing those events, often these people want "representation" for this purpose. And then there are people who like to see interesting things happen to interesting characters, they have no interest in imagining themselves in that situation or as that character as some kind of escapist fantasy.
For the first group, seeing people experience things they did would bring great pleasure, they enjoy the sentimentality of the emotions connected to remembering that stuff. For the second group, it would just be boring.
It's an immense category error, and thus the focus on Era and the like, to ascribe morality to either group and spend your time trying to determine what makes your group superior. Which is why they immediately slip into actually fascist type rhetoric with lots of eliminationist talk about the outgroup. BZT is trying to describe them as essentially broken, barely human unlike us who appreciate Mixtape, so as to justify dismissing concerns. All of that thread, like all Era threads, is tinged with moralizing rhetoric and desperate attempts to form ingroups and outgroups to demonstrate moral superiority of the ingroup. Over opinions of capitalist, colonialist and white supremacist media.
Spoiler: (click to show)(click to hide)
Talk about signaling your feelings about fears of exclusion and isolation.
(05-11-2026, 05:16 AM)HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth wrote: My dudes I got banned from the super straight porn for super straight heterosexuals subreddit because they claimed my super straight art of a dude sucking a dick wasn't heterosexual! What's more heterosexual than a super straight dude sucking a dick?
FACT CHECK: I think the usage of "eating out" and "she had a dick, but no focus was put on it" indicates he was rimming her which is VERY HETEROSEXUAL.
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