Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[BananaBlast]

Eve had problems but she at least had an adult woman face. New girl has a baby head.

Yeaaah, can't really ignore how the new Stellar blade MC looks younger than Eve.

Like, y'all:



This 'ambiguously young' design being mixed with the catsuit and jiggle physics is weird, if anything.

I wouldn't call it weird, just straight up pedo bait.

That looks so much like a child, it looks like one who hasn't even reached puberty. Like, Arya Stark in S1 of Game of Thrones arguably looks older and that character was 11 (actress was 12-13 when filming).

She looks younger than Ellie in TLOU1...

That's a child's face.

This is what's so baffling and disgusting. It's a kid's face. Not a "young woman", not a late bloomer, not a cute woman. An early middle school at BEST, more likely a 5-6 year elementary schooler face. It didn't even click to me she was the player character for a while. I thought she was talking to the main character from the last game and then it cut the older one in the gameplay. Hideous

And that fucking exploitative-ass shot where she takes the puffy coat off so she can spend the rest of the trailer in her skintight condom suit. I audibly groaned at the sight of it. These developers suck. Just truly, deeply embarrassing shit.

Shift Up really went and said "You thought Eve was bad? You ain't seen nothing yet, let's make the next goonbait character a child!"

Why... just why...

I swear every time someone tries to defend Nikke and ShiftUp, then I plan to share the photo on the thread in the future of the 2nd game's teenage girl as the MC because they really are supporting it and I won't let them forget that.

And of course there is a poster being creepy in that thread

It was so gross. It's the only way I can describe it. I don't know how you can even contextualize it with the other surrounding games, clearly full of beautiful women made to be attractive, on various levels of eye roll, but somehow not doing this shit and not feel gross.

I can't wait for the next impassioned defense of their creative talent and the "seriousness" of Nikke

That Nikke thread from a little bit ago was something else, honestly. Apparently it's on us for having the right to just not want to try Nikke based on what we see and we were being "judgmental" or hypocritical in the face of people burying their heads in the sand on a game that advertises itself on T&A.

Feels like people just don't know if they want to goon freely or they want people to look the other way sometimes.

A little surprised that the new Stellar Blade isn't just getting outright banned on this forum. Little kid face with extremely sexualized outfit & camera angles.

I'm not even bothering with the SB thread this time....learned my lesson with the first game.

"I'm just gonna goon to porn of Eve/Evie getting octo'd instead"

Yeah, I'm not going to lie that trailer made me uncomfortable. I didn't play the first one, definitely won't be playing this one. Anybody picking this up gets the side-eye from me tbh.

I teach 1st grade and that protag looks that age. It's literally making me feel sick to think about the discourse that's going to go on and on about how that's not a child's face.

Okay stop. Bait or severe mental illness. Call it.

[Potato]

I bothered to give you a real answer.

Your answer was shit and retarded and irrelevant. 

1. You don't think it's plagiarism. Ok, end of story.
   
2. Who gives a shit if it's "big corpos or small indie devs? Why is there a difference anyway?
   

Man, Potato, you sure told me off.

But you haven't even tried to give a coherent argument for mandatory disclosure of AI other than, "I don't like it, but I can't actually tell the difference."

Stand by your convictions my dude.

Why should anyone disclose when they have used AI in developing their product?

[simiansmarts]

Okay stop. Bait or severe mental illness. Call it.

definitely mental illness, these gooner games make them see red and start hurling pedo accusations despite being told repeatedly not to do that.

[BananaBlast]

resetera link

Claire looks amazing

She looks like my ex from college. That's weird.

humblebrag

/s

lmao

don't worry it was 16 years ago when I was still cute and not the human avatar of the word "exhaustion"

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

[Boredfrom]

Your answer was shit and retarded and irrelevant. 

1. You don't think it's plagiarism. Ok, end of story.
   
2. Who gives a shit if it's "big corpos or small indie devs? Why is there a difference anyway?
   

Man, Potato, you sure told me off.

But you haven't even tried to give a coherent argument for mandatory disclosure of AI other than, "I don't like it, but I can't actually tell the difference."

Stand by your convictions my dude.

Why should anyone disclose when they have used AI in developing their product?

Don’t gaslight me, asshole, I just told you my reasons.

“You just told me that many people that don’t like copyright still like to attribution.”  

“Fucking lack of conviction” 

[benji]

First Pragmata with its highly sexualized climbing and making noises and bare feet, and now you got yet another obvious Epstein-coded game in Stellar Blade 2 after the first one eliminated women's rights in Korea. Yeah, pretty obvious who's trying to normalize this shit. Yet not once have I seen one of these "looks good" posting "allies" speak out against the violent terrorism of TERFs or take material action for Black people. Instead they're all like "just vote", yeah and what did that do for Gaza or people who GOG sent an e-mail to?

[Boredfrom]

”i don't like it, but I can't actually tell the difference."

Too bad that many can tell and it ends with the studio apologizing and replacing assets.  

I’m sure that, by deceiving everyone, AI general bad rep will improve.

(You cannot even say that normies are neutral about it anymore  ) 

Like saying “you don’t have convictions because you don’t agree with me  ” you are going to change anyone minds.

[benji]

Don’t gaslight me, asshole, I just told you my reasons.

“You just told me that many people that don’t like copyright still like to attribution.”  

“Fucking lack of conviction” 

”i don't like it, but I can't actually tell the difference."

Too bad that many can tell and it ends with the studio apologizing and replacing assets.  

I’m sure that, by deceiving everyone, AI general bad rep will improve.

(You cannot even say that normies are neutral about it anymore  ) 

Like saying “you don’t have convictions because you don’t agree with me  ” you are going to change anyone minds.

Because you didn't give any legitimate reason anyone should be required to disclose the use of AI. Nobody demands the disclosure of what engine or DRM or anti-cheat is used, when all of these can have legitimate performance and other technical issues. Yet how the artwork of the game was created is treated as necessary to disclose is absurd. It's placating a single religious cult in a way that benefits only them. Why don't we require the posting of business accounting too? I wouldn't want to buy any games where the developers weren't given a living wage and benefits for life or where management wasted money on parties where alcohol was served.

[benji]

[Boredfrom]

Don’t gaslight me, asshole, I just told you my reasons.

“You just told me that many people that don’t like copyright still like to attribution.”  

“Fucking lack of conviction” 

”i don't like it, but I can't actually tell the difference."

Too bad that many can tell and it ends with the studio apologizing and replacing assets.  

I’m sure that, by deceiving everyone, AI general bad rep will improve.

(You cannot even say that normies are neutral about it anymore  ) 

Like saying “you don’t have convictions because you don’t agree with me  ” you are going to change anyone minds.

Because you didn't give any legitimate reason anyone should be required to disclose the use of AI. Nobody demands the disclosure of what engine or DRM or anti-cheat is used, when all of these can have legitimate performance and other technical issues. Yet how the artwork of the game was created is treated as necessary to disclose is absurd. It's placating a single religious cult in a way that benefits only them. Why don't we require the posting of business accounting too? I wouldn't want to buy any games where the developers weren't given a living wage and benefits for life or where management wasted money on parties where alcohol was served.

 

BTW, people actually get mad depending of the anti cheat or anti piracy a game is using.  

Epic demands that you show their logo when using their engine. People bitch about how unreal is used all the time.

[benji]

 

BTW, people actually get mad depending of the anti cheat or anti piracy a game is using.  

Epic demands that you show their logo when using their engine. People bitch about how unreal is used all the time.

No store discloses these. Where are all the articles about it? Where are the Era threads? Where is the handwringing over the ethics of buying titles with them undisclosed? Why aren't the journalists exposing every game discovered with these? Why are capital-G gamers, aka Nazi pedophiles, the only ones who ever try to boycott titles with them?

[Boredfrom]

Where are all the articles about it? Where are the Era threads?

There is like a anti Denuvo thread every week.

I just used Google News and got this as one of the first results.

https://en.gamegpu.com/news/zhelezo/antichity-i-denuvo-na-noutbukakh-s-rtx-spark-budet-nevozmozhno-obojti

Anti-cheats and Denuvo will be impossible to bypass on laptops with RTX Spark.

[benji]

By the way, we kind of brushed past it, but Nepenthe was really defending using Nazi language as long as it's against zionists
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-i-left-the-white-left-by-fd-signifier-focused-on-graham-platner.1536727/post-155731270

For context, Bad Empanada has been calling people "ZOG slave" (a neo nazi term) and K*ke. FD signifier called him out on it during a discussion, a discussion Nepenthe clearly watched, and here she is talking about how that doesn't really matter because it's just optics. Something tells me she wouldn't say that if the guy was calling people the N-word.

Because I saw someone else retweet this:

And looked at his recent tweets:

He retweeted this:

Haven't seen a lot of this type of talk on Era, not even from Nepenthe.

[benji]

Where are all the articles about it? Where are the Era threads?

There is like a anti Denuvo thread every week.

I just used Google News and got this as one of the first results.

https://en.gamegpu.com/news/zhelezo/antichity-i-denuvo-na-noutbukakh-s-rtx-spark-budet-nevozmozhno-obojti

Anti-cheats and Denuvo will be impossible to bypass on laptops with RTX Spark.

The fuck website is this?  

Show me Kotaku posting articles every single day. Show me Era threads for every release. Show me the Bluesky mobs that post all day about AI. You seem to think when people are talking about particular things they're talking about open-ended general things and that you've refuted what they're saying by finding a single thing or example anywhere from anything.

"You say Mexicans aren't serial killers who need to be deported? But yet there's this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Hern%C3%A1ndez_Leyva  "

edit: This is like the only Denuvo thread from this entire year that came up in a search on Era and it's mostly about the guy cracking it: https://www.resetera.com/threads/thegamer-a-denuvo-drm-disclaimer-has-been-quietly-added-to-the-lego-batman-legacy-of-the-dark-knight-steam-page.1515706/

[Boredfrom]

Where are all the articles about it? Where are the Era threads?

There is like a anti Denuvo thread every week.

I just used Google News and got this as one of the first results.

https://en.gamegpu.com/news/zhelezo/antichity-i-denuvo-na-noutbukakh-s-rtx-spark-budet-nevozmozhno-obojti

Anti-cheats and Denuvo will be impossible to bypass on laptops with RTX Spark.

The fuck website is this?  

Show me Kotaku. Show me Era. 

 

https://x.com/Kotaku/status/2049182674401583126

https://kotaku.com/hackers-have-bypassed-denuvo-drm-in-every-game-and-now-2k-is-reportedly-fighting-back-with-14-day-online-check-ins-2000691311

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thegamer-a-denuvo-drm-disclaimer-has-been-quietly-added-to-the-lego-batman-legacy-of-the-dark-knight-steam-page.1515706/

https://store.steampowered.com/curator/26095454-Denuvo-Watch/?snr=1_1050_curatorsreviewing_

[benji]

 

https://x.com/Kotaku/status/2049182674401583126

https://kotaku.com/hackers-have-bypassed-denuvo-drm-in-every-game-and-now-2k-is-reportedly-fighting-back-with-14-day-online-check-ins-2000691311

Dude. Fucking read before you rush to respond. I did not tell you to find any instance of Kotaku mentioning DRM at all. I want them waging jihad on every single game that has it like they're doing for AI.

You're going to claim I edited and changed what I said but I did to make my statement even more clear because I knew you wouldn't know what I was saying from the context of the previous messages.

To be even more clear: Find me the weekly Kotaku articles about Batman or James Bond or Crimson Desert having Denuvo and the struggle of one's ethics of buying games with it. And I want to see comments full of people announcing they're bypassing hugely popular games because of it. I want to see Kotaku writers in articles and on social media suggesting they shouldn't even cover these games other than to expose what's hidden inside them.

[Boredfrom]

I cant.  

Thanks for the a clarification after the fact.

[Uncle]

it doesn't even have to be about denuvo

"games should be forced to disclose when they have jewish people on the development team so that conscientious leftists can choose to avoid buying those games so they don't have to support zionism"

that's the equivalent of AI disclosure, the only reason to do it is provide reasons not to buy it for people with a specific bone to pick

it's not like "required OS" disclosure or "required hard drive space" disclosure which are factual things that might limit a customer's ability to play the game, it's literally just an ideological hangup, and therefore equivalent to every other possible ideological reasoning

"games should disclose when the developers used Photoshop during development so that those who oppose Adobe and its predatory policies can choose not to support it"

"games should disclose whether developers consumed non-vegan foods at any point during development"

[benji]

For the record, I'm fine with these things being on store pages. Whatever people want really. More info should be the goal, not less. I use Augmented Steam to add all kinds of useful info to the Steam store pages.

It's just that they don't care about this shit for anything else. And they actively mock it and call it terrorism when people do it for games that Sweet Baby Inc. was involved with. But because they're on a whole war against this one specific sin they're jerking off about the ethics of it and claiming it's being buried or implying that it's secretly being hidden to trick people. For the slightest offense. A single image sometimes. As if all the images in all games aren't touched with computer algorithms.

[Uncle]

"why is it bad when gamers gather to track and protest sweet baby inc, but good to demand AI disclosure?"

"because, chuddie, good things are good and bad things are bad, they are two different things, fucking obviously, you stupid 4chan user, you god damned something awful forum poster"

[benji]

"You turned on anisotropic filtering? You realize that a human artist could have been paid to do that in real time? Oh, and those textures were S3TC compressed? Oof. Yikes."

[Boredfrom]

Again Uncle? 

doesn't even have to be about denuvo

"games should be forced to disclose when they have jewish people on the development team so that conscientious leftists can choose to avoid buying those games so they don't have to support zionism"

The three of you know is not fucking the same to ask disclosure for a fucking tool (you know, NOT A FUCKING PERSON OR A ETHNIC GROUP) that half of the world seems to hate because people have the most absurd defenses.

For something so inevitable, you three act so insecure around the idea of “disclosing its use”.

that's the equivalent of AI disclosure, the only reason to do it is provide reasons not to buy it for people with a specific bone to pick

Gee, I wonder why.

You can argue is an irrational hate, but pls, don’t compare it with IRL discrimination.

[Uncle]

Again Uncle? 

doesn't even have to be about denuvo

"games should be forced to disclose when they have jewish people on the development team so that conscientious leftists can choose to avoid buying those games so they don't have to support zionism"

The three of you know is not fucking the same to ask disclosure for a fucking tool (you know, NOT A FUCKING PERSON OR A ETHNIC GROUP) that half of the world seems to hate because people have the most absurd defenses.

For something so inevitable, you three act so insecure around the idea of “disclosing its use”.

in the exact same fucking post I used an example of a tool, Photoshop, which is quite possible for someone to have an objection against for all sorts of reasons...including the fact that using Photoshop bankrolls Adobe's continued use and support of AI!

[benji]

The three of you know is not fucking the same to ask disclosure for a fucking tool (you know, NOT A FUCKING PERSON OR A ETHNIC GROUP) that half of the world seems to hate because people have the most absurd defenses.

For something so inevitable, you three act so insecure around the idea of “disclosing its use”.

You don't think it's of ethical importance if your purchase of a game is going to assist a genocidal terrorist group?

Frankly, we need disclosure of Unreal Engine usage because that's funding that goes to Epic who then turns around and gives that money to genocide mad fascists like Joanne or streamers who laugh at people saying the n-word. And we need journalists to be reporting this instead of posting a bunch of articles promoting and celebrating these games. Dismissing this as "not the same" is exactly why y'all aren't serious.

[Boredfrom]

Again Uncle? 

doesn't even have to be about denuvo

"games should be forced to disclose when they have jewish people on the development team so that conscientious leftists can choose to avoid buying those games so they don't have to support zionism"

The three of you know is not fucking the same to ask disclosure for a fucking tool (you know, NOT A FUCKING PERSON OR A ETHNIC GROUP) that half of the world seems to hate because people have the most absurd defenses.

For something so inevitable, you three act so insecure around the idea of “disclosing its use”.

in the exact same fucking post I used an example of a tool, Photoshop, which is quite possible for someone to have an objection against for all sorts of reasons...including the fact that using Photoshop bankrolls Adobe's continued use and support of AI!

Yeah, you shouldn’t have started with the “is discrimination”  argument when the tool one is better and less disingenuous.

[Boredfrom]

The three of you know is not fucking the same to ask disclosure for a fucking tool (you know, NOT A FUCKING PERSON OR A ETHNIC GROUP) that half of the world seems to hate because people have the most absurd defenses.

For something so inevitable, you three act so insecure around the idea of “disclosing its use”.

You don't think it's of ethical importance if your purchase of a game is going to assist a genocidal terrorist group?

Frankly, we need disclosure of Unreal Engine usage because that's funding that goes to Epic who then turns around and gives that money to genocide mad fascists like Joanne or streamers who laugh at people saying the n-word. And we need journalists to be reporting this instead of posting a bunch of articles promoting and celebrating these games. Dismissing this as "not the same" is exactly why y'all aren't serious.

Unreal is not afraid to disclose itself in every game that uses its engine.  

Hell, Epic is blatant about betting for AI and Tim Epic is still trucking.

[Daffy Duck]

Stellar Blade: BLOOD RAIN announced (SHIFT UP)

Why she look 12... or am I just old.

Was I crazy or did a lot of that look AI generated. No, not generated, but like Ai assets is more accurate.

Uh, in the first few minutes that girl looked 13

"How do we beat the controversy of SB1?" "Let's make the main character look 14."

Why does the 14 year old have a big jiggly ass.

Super gross character design 🤮

In the words of Kyle Bosman

Bad faces.

Im sure Shift Up will say she's "18"

The talented Artists should spin off and create their own studio. I'm sure it's the folks at the top that is forcing that kid stuff. Hopefully they redesign the main character's face before launch, but I doubt it.

Wtf it is a child

maybe making the protagonist look like a child is what they were referring to when saying they wanted to detach from Sony

Playing as a child who will unquestionably be depicted as a sex object? That's a pass.

And that's not even factoring in unarmed combat being the primary mode. What a downgrade.

Did the gooners complain about the first protag being too old? Huh

Face of a child and body of a sex doll. 🙄

Have fun playing your leering sexy 14 yo game I guess. This shit is fucking disturbing

why does she have the face of a 12 year old

It's clear that her facial body fat and height are different than any of the clearly adult characters in the game reveal.

But you weirdos will say, "she looks like an adult."

Fam just call a spade, a spade. It's not like people are saying (as of now, in this thread) don't play or buy the game.

Stellar Blade but make her a child. Weirdo game for fucking weirdos.

.......Annnnnnnnd I'm already tired of the discourse. 🙄

Meanwhile yassssss slay kween Kyuuji in the thread

Easy in. Glad they're switching it up to a brawler, the combat looked great.

No surprise there’s Queen Gooner of Era

[HardcoreRetro]

Gotta love that the website that calls everyone racist and sexist is doing the infantilization of asian women bit. 

If they were shitposters I'd respect them for it. 

[Besticus Maximus]

Somene will probably confirm but I'd imagine at this stage Kyuuji has reached the upper limits of womanhood and can finally relax a bit