Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[DavidCroquet]

“Touch me and see what happens” is a funny phrase in that the intent behind it can accurately be evaluated by the nature of the “what” that eventually “happens”.

There’s no way Royalan is so stupid that they think the judge is ruling that this phrase is equal to intent to murder regardless of context. It can, however, be retroactively assessed as a statement of intention to murder when, y’know, you murder someone shortly after saying it.

[Disco55]

Is that Soliloquy of a Dogge guy genuinely this stupid or is he trolling? Pick your battle more carefully cause this kid is not it.

[Propagandhim]

Nah, we ain't doing this. Fuck off with that.

Karmelo Anthony was an honor roll student and literally saved a kid from drowning. But yeah "awful human being" for making a bad impulsive decision in response to somebody putting their hands on him.

Can you imagine anyone doing this on Resetera for a white kid who stabbed a black kid to death over being pushed.  "He was an honor roll student!  He rescued cats from trees!  He made a little impulsive whoopsie!  You racists hate white excellence!"


These people fucking suck 

[Boredfrom]

Warning, Nepenthe has been deployed:

No one here can really say if he was a "good" or a "bad' person, it's ridiculous to discuss his character based on anecdotes one way or another. He did, however, demonstrably kill someone brutally and very unnecessarily, and his character is not what's on trial. It's pretty hard to see anything unjust about the outcome, aside from the obvious ruination of two young dudes' lives.

I mean, the Menendez brothers have had extensive support and were resentenced in such a way as to be eligible for parole, despite the fact that objectively they murdered their parents as defined by the law. Hell, while Brock Turner didn't kill anyone, that rapist piece of shit still walked because of his "bright future." These types of opportunities and sympathies are not usually afforded to non-white folks.

Now, Karmelo deserves some time going by how the situation played out. But you cannot convicingly argue against the fact that the all-white make up of the jury and the length of time of the sentence means this kid was being made an example of in a country that has time and time again made an example of Black people anyway they can. Juxtapose this against the Asian store owner going free for killing a Black kid for no reason, and it's all just another reminder of systemic racism.

And y'all really aren't going to argue down Black people upset about the matter either. Like some folks are mad that Black folks some type of way about racism, and to what end? He got 35 years- you got what you wanted.

>Nep used “White adjacent” argument

Also, lol the Menendez brothers.

[DavidCroquet]

Warning, Nepenthe has been deployed:

No one here can really say if he was a "good" or a "bad' person, it's ridiculous to discuss his character based on anecdotes one way or another. He did, however, demonstrably kill someone brutally and very unnecessarily, and his character is not what's on trial. It's pretty hard to see anything unjust about the outcome, aside from the obvious ruination of two young dudes' lives.

I mean, the Menendez brothers have had extensive support and were resentenced in such a way as to be eligible for parole, despite the fact that objectively they murdered their parents as defined by the law. Hell, while Brock Turner didn't kill anyone, that rapist piece of shit still walked because of his "bright future." These types of opportunities and sympathies are not usually afforded to non-white folks.
Now, Karmelo deserves some time going by how the situation played out. But you cannot convicingly argue against the fact that the all-white make up of the jury and the length of time of the sentence means this kid was being made an example of in a country that has time and time again made an example of Black people anyway they can. Juxtapose this against the Asian store owner going free for killing a Black kid for no reason, and it's all just another reminder of systemic racism.
And y'all really aren't going to argue down Black people upset about the matter either. Like some folks are mad that Black folks some type of way about racism, and to what end? He got 35 years- you got what you wanted.

>Nep used “White adjacent” argument
Also, lol the Menendez brothers.

[Jansen]

And y'all really aren't going to argue down Black people upset about the matter either. Like some folks are mad that Black folks some type of way about racism, and to what end? He got 35 years- you got what you wanted.

These people are horrible hypocrites and you cannot call them out thanks to the genius forum rules

[Boredfrom]

Is that Soliloquy of a Dogge guy genuinely this stupid or is he trolling? Pick your battle more carefully cause this kid is not it.

I feel he knows is BS but also knows that no one will touch him. Most of BCT operate this way. Royalan and Nep are legit stupid, thought.

[Let's Cyber]

No one here can really say if he was a "good" or a "bad' person

He did, however, demonstrably kill someone brutally and very unnecessarily

I'll take the brave stance and say murderers are bad.

[Disco55]

No one here can really say if he was a "good" or a "bad' person

He did, however, demonstrably kill someone brutally and very unnecessarily

I'll take the brave stance and say murderers are bad.

But you see, he was an honor student and saved a kid one time. That definitely balances him killing a fellow student

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/karmelo-anthony-case.1548097/page-3

Hang on, is he implying the first or the second is the "black phrase"?

[Propagandhim]

Now, Karmelo deserves some time going by how the situation played out.

She can't even get herself to say he stabbed him to even put anything on Karmelo.  She has to use this evasive passive wording.  The situation was a causal dialectic that played out dialectically

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/karmelo-anthony-case.1548097/page-3

Hang on, is he implying the first or the second is the "black phrase"?

I don't know!  That's what's so funny.  He's fucking insane.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/karmelo-anthony-case.1548097/page-3

But in this case it exactly meant "I'm going to stab you" ....

[Jansen]

No they're not actually.



They're asking you to recognize the fact that a white defendant in the same situation wouldn't be treated this way.



Hell, not even an Asian defendant was.



(I think in general though people should recognize why they feel a frothing-at-the-mouth need for carceral punishment whenever people, regardless of race, break the law and whether or not this is a mindset that's actually conducive to any semblance of justice, rehabilitation, or bettering this country. Something tells me people won't though.)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/karmelo-anthony-case.1548097/page-3#post-156304222

What will it take bdumbs

Well, you see, when a Negro enters a space they don't belong in....

[HaughtyFrank]

[quote="Boredfrom" pid='191131' dateline='1781144294']
Warning, Nepenthe has been deployed:

. Juxtapose this against the Asian store owner going free for killing a Black kid for no reason, and it's all just another reminder of systemic racism.

Well if we're playing that game, the guy who completely randomly killed an old asian Grandpa in San Francisco was released on probation after just 5 years

https://abc7news.com/post/antoine-watson-sentenced-2021-sf-grandpa-vicha-murder-case-manslaughter-conviction/18781405/

That was literally the case that started the whole "stop asian hate" campaign. Like yeah, sometimes even black folk get off easy.

[Propagandhim]

This guy's getting banned for...hrmmm..."trolling".  Yeah, definitely "trolling."

[Propagandhim]

Well, you see, when a Negro enters a space they don't belong in....

And see, THIS right here is the thing.

It's exhausting seeing the violence visited upon Anthony being brushed aside as "just a push" in the wider context of this racist country we live in.

To be clear, that was NOT Metcalf's tent. Being team captain gave him no ownership of property. He did not have the authority to approach Anthony, demand he leave, enter his personal space and physically threaten him if Anthony did not comply with orders he had no power to make. It don't matter how many times Anthony was asked to leave. And it's personally shocking to me that people don't realize how micro-aggressive this is. To easily rest on the idea that a Black boy should have ceded to a white boy's demands because you have been raised to believe that THAT should be the default response. And if he doesn't? Well, of course he gave him a little push...

And mind you, NONE OF THIS is me arguing that Anthony was in the right for doing what he did. He wasn't. But what's upsetting people, and what's micro-aggressive is the refusal to engage with why Black folks would fear for their safety in this situation at all.

I can't take this anymore.  This guy is an absolute mental case.  Time for a break!

[simiansmarts]

Well, you see, when a Negro enters a space they don't belong in....

And see, THIS right here is the thing.

It's exhausting seeing the violence visited upon Anthony being brushed aside as "just a push" in the wider context of this racist country we live in.

To be clear, that was NOT Metcalf's tent. Being team captain gave him no ownership of property. He did not have the authority to approach Anthony, demand he leave, enter his personal space and physically threaten him if Anthony did not comply with orders he had no power to make. It don't matter how many times Anthony was asked to leave. And it's personally shocking to me that people don't realize how micro-aggressive this is. To easily rest on the idea that a Black boy should have ceded to a white boy's demands because you have been raised to believe that THAT should be the default response. And if he doesn't? Well, of course he gave him a little push...

And mind you, NONE OF THIS is me arguing that Anthony was in the right for doing what he did. He wasn't. But what's upsetting people, and what's micro-aggressive is the refusal to engage with why Black folks would fear for their safety in this situation at all.

I can't take this anymore.  This guy is an absolute mental case.  Time for a break!

I second this. Too much RE exposure can be dangerous for your mental health.

[Uncle]

   

[kaleidoscopium]

Is that Soliloquy of a Dogge guy genuinely this stupid or is he trolling? Pick your battle more carefully cause this kid is not it.

He was a more normal user but his brain broke around the time of George Floyd/covid. Can likely map out his tweets and follow it if he’s still active over there

He is: https://x.com/deutschedogges?s=21

[Shecky Fragbaum]

NO-J.

[Alpacx]

Goddamn Nepenthe, Royalan, and that Doge are lunatics.

Nah, refusing to leave after numerous requests and making vague threats which ended up being very real, while doing so is completely unacceptable behavior. Metcalf as a team captain is absolutely an authority within the team's tent in the absence of a coach or adult chaperone, I don't think anyone who has run xc or track would disagree. While you can hang out and be friendly in someone else's tent if you want, it is never acceptable to stay when being asked to leave. While t would have been better if someone got an adult to escort him out, it is totally logical for the team captain to take ownership of the situation in the meantime, in case the situation were to have been escalated in his absence.

Anthony was in the common use of the word, trespassing, in a non-criminal sense, and had no legitimate ground to stand on prior to being shoved.

Your logic isn't legal.

Whatever assumed authority you think your status as team captain of a high school sports team gives you does not translate to actual authority.

Does Royalan Metcalf to get a Supreme Court Injunction to get Anthony to leave the tent?

Someone play a "Queer Spaces analogy" card. No effect!

I am going to argue that you are within your right to put your hands on someone to remove them from a place they do not belong to. I think most people would agree with this. Otherwise, we would be stuck with bigots at LGBT+ areas with no recourse than to just wait for the cops and have to deal with the harm that causes.

What really hurts Anthony was the fact he said what he said, that opened for him to have this all premeditated. You don't say "push me again and see what happens" and stab a person in the heart, even if that isn't intended, it show intent to use the knife.

You are literally not allowed to physically remove people from queer spaces for "not belonging." Really think about the implications of that (and as much as queer spaces wish they could!).

And either way, "you're on the rival team!" Does not meet that standard of a bigot entering a gay bar.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Is this just a difference in Western vs Eastern culture? Like clearly we find Evie unacceptable being this young and/or sexualized, but given in the east some depictions of K-Pop and the various gacha games (Like Nikke/Hoyoverse Games/Blue Archive) it's considered acceptable over there, and what we have as a result is a clash of cultures?

You can NOT call the interviewer a pedophile

You mean the interviewee right? The interviewer is IGN.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-blood-rain-shiftup-ceo-hyung-tae-kim-to-ign-yes-she-is-younger-shes-smaller-in-size.1547899/page-4#post-156286195

 User banned (permanent): Racist generalizations. Account in junior phase.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

if this was some shovelware I'd agree. But the first was highly regarded from a gameplay perspective and I imagine this one will probably be too. The main characters can be blobs as long as the gameplay delivers

  User banned (2 weeks): inflammatory comments in a sensitive thread

(2 minutes ago)

THEY BANNED THIS IN 2 MINUTES?!?! 

 User banned (permanent): inflammatory comments in a sensitive thread. Account in junior phase.

[Alpacx]

Vector is so getting banned

No. If you want clarity on what I'm saying get it from the source. If I regretted that post I would say I did.

My initial post is not incongruent with me telling you that self-defense was his intention and initial motive. Read my other posts for additional context. It's frustrating that so many people would think a Black persona wouldn't fear for their safety in this scenario. I absolutely believe that Anthony acted in genuine defense of his person.

That does not mean I don't think his actions weren't extreme and are pardonable.

You don't knife someone's heart if they shoved you away from somewhere you're not supposed to be, that's a sort of behavior that's incompatible with being a free member of a community and can't possibly be labelled as self defense. Just absolute psycho shit.

Royalan's "okay it wasn't self defence but Kamalo believed he was acting in self defence" argument.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-blood-rain-shiftup-ceo-hyung-tae-kim-to-ign-yes-she-is-younger-shes-smaller-in-size.1547899/page-5#post-156288355

 User banned (2 weeks): inflammatory commentary

For a lot of men who have made opposition to pedophilia a central pillar of their political identity, their primary grievance isn't with the pedophilia but that there are people of hated political identities who are privileged enough (imagined to not) to victimize young girls when they are not.

That is to say do not expect reactionary gamer types to have shit to say about this except that they're eagerly looking forward to it.

[Averon]

I must say Reee has surprised even me in this instance. Trying to argue that knifing someone in the heart because of a shove is somehow justified/not a big deal/only manslaughter at most. Bordering on victim blaming.

And why the fuck is Nep bringing up an entirely different case that's not at all related or analogous?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/key-artwork-for-the-new-kingdom-hearts-collection-i-iii-seems-to-have-ai-elements.1546684/page-3#post-156231769

 User banned (2 weeks): Hostility, previous warnings for similar behavior

That's... still not particularly convincing?

"The marketing people used AI for layers" and/or "AI used for upscaling" = AI was still used, you do know.

I'M NOT TRYING TO DEFEND SQUARE ENIX

I'm just tired of people jumping to the conclusion that an entire art piece is AI generated, when AI is far more commonly used by marketing departments to butcher artists work against their will.

Please just fuck off with your aggressive ass energy towards me for no reason.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

 
https://www.resetera.com/threads/june-8-2026-crazy-taxi-world-tour-lead-says-generative-ai-will-continue-to-be-a-%E2%80%98hot-topic-%E2%80%99-but-they%E2%80%99re-using-it-anyway.1545076/page-5#post-156154636  
 

I'm going to stop by for the first page and it was already people that are absolutely making me very upset with this considering them from in town where the nearby water source was basically drained things to AI, y'all don't understand there's actually fucking consequences to this.. it's pathetic some defend.. FOR INSTANCE

If it really is just reference material then I can't be too mad. It's fuck gen ai for all sorts of reasons but that's about the most basic, and hard to get mad at use.

Still hope no gen ai assets are in the game. 

You know they went out of her way during the dreamcast era to have different teams go out to certain spots to take pictures of I know this because I believe the cumulative effort they took to take pictures for the region for Sonic Adventure, for instance, cost more than the entire BUDGET of NiGHTS into Dreams. They were willing to spend back then for a game they originally thought would be in the Saturn, then moved to the DC. To get people on their console on last time (until they were bought out or whatever)

The point I'm saying. They now are supported just alone with enough RGG games where they can afford to do anything of themselves and yet this isn't about getting the pictures or hiring somebody to spend a short afternoon and getting reference pictures. It's about "fuck you, why pay?" And letting a machine do their work. And the problem is it will eventually reach away where it gets into the jobs of entry of artists that will be replaced and then eventually even more creatives but seeing how lazy their machines have been lately for the gambling side of things... I should have expected this.

I'm all for holding AI usage to the fire, but backlash like this is just going to make studios be less transparent. Now granted, SEGA worded poorly in the Steam disclosure too, but I really don't see this as that big an issue. They either use AI to make placeholder assets and references... or "steal" existing images and use as placeholder assets and references. None of it is in the actual game. 

Quit trying to defend the multi-million dollar corporation that's backed up by a multi-billion dollar gambling corporation. Fuck Sega. They literally hired a known sex pest into their Yakuza games and they didn't do anything about it. Even when it was pointed out!

This is just more nonsense. But I guess they're cool because sometimes I make references to old Sonic games, right?!? The MEMES make COMPANY/BRAND fun!

So a nothing burger after all.

The way they are using AI is basically super google.

Unless actual AI slop makes it into the final game I don't care.


There is reason for it here as in every tech/software company there is reason. 

You are a terrible person that I've seen defend AI before and don't dare call this a nothing Burger seriously reeks of laziness this is like you taking a copy of other people's work on Wikipedia and slapping it together in a different order and they trying to give it to your professor and rightfully they will give you a failing grade because of plagiarism

Which THIS IS and AND is a poison. The NOTHING burger is what you'll have when we have no water to drink. But...

Yay PROGRESS.

 User banned (1 week): Hostility, and a history of similar behavior

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/key-artwork-for-the-new-kingdom-hearts-collection-i-iii-seems-to-have-ai-elements.1546684/page-3#post-156231769

 User banned (2 weeks): Hostility, previous warnings for similar behavior

That's... still not particularly convincing?

"The marketing people used AI for layers" and/or "AI used for upscaling" = AI was still used, you do know.

I'M NOT TRYING TO DEFEND SQUARE ENIX

I'm just tired of people jumping to the conclusion that an entire art piece is AI generated, when AI is far more commonly used by marketing departments to butcher artists work against their will.

Please just fuck off with your aggressive ass energy towards me for no reason.

MFW being told to fuck off with my aggressive ass energy