Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[kaleidoscopium]

The double moralety of this forum is incredible. In every Xbox thread there is a banner to boycott xbox. In fact there is on now right over where i`m writing.
This forum have been so proud of not giving ms and xbox any money.
And now that the poor sales are in and the studio closes its 100% MS fault.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-verge-xbox-closing-ninja-theory-but-attempting-to-find-a-buyer.1551895/page-6#post-156528124

[HaughtyFrank]

The double moralety of this forum is incredible. In every Xbox thread there is a banner to boycott xbox. In fact there is on now right over where i`m writing.
This forum have been so proud of not giving ms and xbox any money.
And now that the poor sales are in and the studio closes its 100% MS fault.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-verge-xbox-closing-ninja-theory-but-attempting-to-find-a-buyer.1551895/post-156528124

[BIONIC]

Can we please get some kind of like button or some variation of it? If I agree with someone said, I shouldn’t have to quote them every single time. PLEASE! People be saying witty and clever stuff and I wanna give them a like.

This is exactly why I don't want a like button. You start rewarding witty & clever posts and the website turns into Reddit.

Not to mention things become a shit show when someone posts something awful/bigoted, and then that post gets like hundreds of likes. Then mods have to go into every individual user that liked the post, and separately explain why they were banned.

What a nightmare that would be. I don't envy the mods.

‘Pathetic’ doesn’t even begin to describe these fuckers Jesus fucking Christ

[kaleidoscopium]

The double moralety of this forum is incredible. In every Xbox thread there is a banner to boycott xbox. In fact there is on now right over where i`m writing.
This forum have been so proud of not giving ms and xbox any money.
And now that the poor sales are in and the studio closes its 100% MS fault.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-verge-xbox-closing-ninja-theory-but-attempting-to-find-a-buyer.1551895/post-156528124

Stolen valor 😔

[kaleidoscopium]

Can we please get some kind of like button or some variation of it? If I agree with someone said, I shouldn’t have to quote them every single time. PLEASE! People be saying witty and clever stuff and I wanna give them a like.

This is exactly why I don't want a like button. You start rewarding witty & clever posts and the website turns into Reddit.

Not to mention things become a shit show when someone posts something awful/bigoted, and then that post gets like hundreds of likes.  Then mods have to go into every individual user that liked the post, and separately explain why they were banned.

What a nightmare that would be. I don't envy the mods.

‘Pathetic’ doesn’t even begin to describe these fuckers Jesus fucking Christ

“No likes allowed because It’ll be hard to ban the chuds who disagree with us” is still the funniest argument against it

[Let's Cyber]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-several-xbox-studios-including-compulsion-ninja-theory-and-double-fine-are-negotiating-with-xbox-as-they-try-to-avoid-closure.1551835/page-10#post-156525010

my overly emotional take is that everyone who cheered on that acquisition would at least get a tag in their names for embarrassing they were

You cool with giving some of the mods tags too?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-several-xbox-studios-including-compulsion-ninja-theory-and-double-fine-are-negotiating-with-xbox-as-they-try-to-avoid-closure.1551835/page-16#post-156529504

Last week I said this and got banned for 3 days.

The fact that Xbox is still around is a minor miracle. I feel like they are incompetent at their jobs.

Meanwhile people in this thread are basically saying the same thing. If there is a mod, I would love to get an explanation.

[Superstar]

There's a lot of closure of studios I'm mad about. Ninja Theory is one I understand though. Their entire catalog is commercial flop after flop after flop going back decades. Its a miracle they've survive this long in such a cut throat industry.

Edit: probably the same for Double Fine but cant imagine their budgets were as big.

[simiansmarts]

Can we please get some kind of like button or some variation of it? If I agree with someone said, I shouldn’t have to quote them every single time. PLEASE! People be saying witty and clever stuff and I wanna give them a like.

This is exactly why I don't want a like button. You start rewarding witty & clever posts and the website turns into Reddit.

Not to mention things become a shit show when someone posts something awful/bigoted, and then that post gets like hundreds of likes.  Then mods have to go into every individual user that liked the post, and separately explain why they were banned.

What a nightmare that would be. I don't envy the mods.

‘Pathetic’ doesn’t even begin to describe these fuckers Jesus fucking Christ

The first user to tell Echoes "stfu you pervert incel manchild" in his next wlw lesbian videogame crush thread would get 100 likes and that idea terrifies them 

[kaleidoscopium]

The double moralety of this forum is incredible. In every Xbox thread there is a banner to boycott xbox. In fact there is on now right over where i`m writing.
This forum have been so proud of not giving ms and xbox any money.
And now that the poor sales are in and the studio closes its 100% MS fault.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-verge-xbox-closing-ninja-theory-but-attempting-to-find-a-buyer.1551895/page-6#post-156528124

User banned (2 weeks): Inflammatory whataboutism and dismissing concerns of genocide

[Jansen]

I bet there are some funny posts in those Xbox threads but I'm way too fucked up right now it's Bob's burgers supposed to be funny I don't get it

[Alpacx]

I bet there are some funny posts in those Xbox threads but I'm way too fucked up right now it's Bob's burgers supposed to be funny I don't get it

YOU SMELL LIKE OINTMENT AND PEE

[kaleidoscopium]

I deleted my Twitter a year or two ago in protest….and recently opened a new account since that's where some of the political action is + people in my industry on there.


Yes I'm feeding the algortihm 🤦🏾‍♂️

https://www.resetera.com/threads/as-someone-who-doesnt-use-either-is-twitter-dead-yet-or-on-the-way-out-is-bluesky-taking-its-place.1551664/page-4#post-156534445

[davepoobond]

people are losing their minds over Xbox's death knell


either their boycott is so effective, this is the end result

or their boycott was so ineffective, that this is end result of all the other things that are wrong with Microsoft


it is both good and bad that people are losing their jobs!  somehow

[Venice]

Can we please get some kind of like button or some variation of it? If I agree with someone said, I shouldn’t have to quote them every single time. PLEASE! People be saying witty and clever stuff and I wanna give them a like.

This is exactly why I don't want a like button. You start rewarding witty & clever posts and the website turns into Reddit.

Or, even worse, TheBire 

[simiansmarts]

I've seen this brought up often in Era's weekly "Hey CHUD, why are you still using X?" discussions and it just gets glossed over. I don't think they realise how Americancentric Bluesky is and has been since day one. At least now there's some presence from UK users but I've been on it since it was in invite-only closed beta and the userbase was fucking insufferable back then. A bunch of the worst type of terminally online yank Twitter millenials falling over themselves trying to out-snark each other to get the viral tweet they were so desperate for but failed to get on Twitter. Unironically referring to themselves as "Bluesky Elders" when the platform opened its doors to all like they were some big shot celebrities.

"Everyone I know moved over to Bluesky!" says the autistic, jobless trans woman from a Discord-only polycule. No shit.

There is an extended discussion to be had about the weird monoculture that comprises sites like ResetEra, bluesky, offshoots like famiboards.

[kaleidoscopium]

Twitter is very much alive, and surprisingly not that problematic as I thought it'd be. My feed is very progressive and anti-conservative — but maybe it's because I don't interact with chud content at all. Twitter's algorithm is very easy to understand, which makes it extremely easy to avoid RWNJs and hateful content (at least in my experience).

Overall, Twitter is probably the best social media site if you're into gaming content. The auto translate feature also improved my experience as well. It's the best social media feature I've seen in a long time.

BlueSky was very dead when I checked it out, and was far too American and politics-focused for my taste. It felt like the most miserable social media site I've ever used, only second to Reddit. Many gaming accounts were dead, leaving only a few quality options left to follow. Additionally, many art accounts were primarily amateur, and none of the JP artists I like joined at all.

TLDR — Twitter can be very positive and progressive, but you need to actively disengage with divisive content to curate your algorithm. Meanwhile, BlueSky felt like a dead version of default Reddit subs (which is to say it's miserable, prone to US defaultism, and not very fun).

https://www.resetera.com/threads/as-someone-who-doesnt-use-either-is-twitter-dead-yet-or-on-the-way-out-is-bluesky-taking-its-place.1551664/page-4#post-156536878

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gavin-newsom-says-he-wife-being-investigated-by-justice-department-at-direction-of-donald-trump.1551736/#post-156516592

hope this reminds everyone: vote blue no matter who

we're in this mess because too many folks spent the run up to the last election broadcasting complaints about "genocide joe" and how harris was "basically the same". hope it's clear now how much better things would be right now if everyone unilaterally supported the dem candidate

User Banned (2 Months): Inflammatory thread derail, downplaying genocide, long history of various infractions

Smoot1e

Voluntary Threadban

"Hmmm how can I make this about people who don't support genocide"

[Snoopy]

Speaking of stolen valor. I was thinking it would be funny as fuck to take The Penguin's Jason Schrier's news articles and post them as my own on ree.

[Himu]

Jason Schreier is an evil jew.

God of War: Laufey looks faggot pilled and is the result of letting women into gaming. I played God of War 1 recently and it is utterly based. To see the franchise go from that to a woman with a talking sword ribbon is evidence that women truly belong in the kitchen so they don't ruin society and that Anita Sarkessian is a dumb (also Jewish) slut.

[BananaBlast]

Fuck off Blueballs  

[Himu]

Fuck off Blueballs  

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/epic-games-details-generative-ai-use-in-fortnites-art-concepting-process.1551997/

I’m sure Cunting Eden and Lil Pooptart will show up any minute to announce them no longer supporting Fortnite (Official Home of Disney’s Marvel and Star Wars™)

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-do-you-think-a-post-capitalist-aka-socialist-video-game-industry-would-look-be-like.1551460/

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Hi, I'm left-wing and a socialist (if the thread title didn't give it away) and it's something I've thought of on and off, I actually posted a thread last year on a similar subject relating to film and TV.

For me, the video game industry is not in a healthy place, from mass layoffs, AI slop flooding digital stores blocking games from being scene, the medium-level game basically dead, massive exploitation of devs as well as players through use of Paid RNG and gambling tactics, companies at risk of closure due to no fault of their own; and in the AAA side, companies not willing to take risks due to ballooned budgets and failure could lead to said layoffs and closures. None of this is healthy for a creative medium and while there is indeed many good games coming out from both the indie scene and AAA, it's pretty clear so many of the issues is due to the Neo Liberal Capitalist system we're all stuck in.

As such, what do you think a video game industry would look like outside of that capitalist system we have now? Could or would AAA games even exist in that sort of scene? Would stuff like public funding and donations become more common, sort of like Kickstarter where you aren't a shareholder, but a believer of an idea (though would gamer's have the maturity to understand that projects can fail not out of malicious reasons)?

Failure is the best teacher for creative art in all forms, failure isn't something to be ashamed for, it's a learning experience; yet in the current system, it's punished, both by publishers and fans. Would a socialist system allow for failure and learning without that type of punishment, would it also take gamers to become more mature and understanding towards devs and not treat a "bad" as some sort of betrayal?

Everything would be a PC and there wouldn't be anti-features like DRM.
Developers would prioritize completely different things.

Wouldn't you need people to actually pay for the game so that every workers get handsomely rewarded for their hard work?

I'm always so confused by the rules in the imaginary socialist utopia. It's never quite just the workers owning the means of production. It's always everything I don't like simply doesn't exist.

I think it would look somewhat like the indie scene, people doing things more out of passions than out of it making "rational" financial sense as a means to get rich. But with more of a safety net and none of that "I blew my life savings making this game and now I can't afford to eat because it didn't get enough traction" risk. Art for art's sake.

Wouldn't blowing all your life savings much more common now that it's the developers themselves assuming all the risks and not just the owners/investors?

Utterly bizarre to see so many people suggesting "AAA" games would cease to exist under Socialism.

Socialism still allows for, and indeed encourages, large scale projects. Be that infrastructure or entertainment.

"AAA" games would still exist under Socialism, made by worker owned and run co-operatives.

The biggest difference would be that instead of the excess labour value generated by the production of a "AAA" game being stolen by some Capitalist fuck-face it would be equitably distributed throughout the community.

Unless you think literally nobody working on those games genuinely wanted those games to exist, that they are vehicles exclusively driven by the profit motive, I don't know how you can say this.

There would be less soul-less GaaS bullshit cash-ins, for sure, but large scale creative endeavours like Bananza would absolutely exist under Socialism.

Probably one the worst place to ask this question but I'd suspect we'd see lot more risk taken in a way to stand out, more people could afford to probably start their own studios and make their dream a reality without fearing to lose their home, healthcare, etc.

Regardless tho I'd much prefer a socialist society that is human driven rather than the current profit driven hellscape society we live in.

They would start with gofundme. Then they would quickly run out of money as the game would quickly go into development hell as some employees would strike because of the lack of minority representation or the size of the main character's boobs. The remaining employees would be subsidized by their parents. And then, in an act of desperation, they would invite their potential customers to buy a share in the co-op in exchange for a portion of the future profits. Oops...never mind.

Or where is the user base getting its PC parts or console from? I assume there would still be some kind of state and government in this socialist utopia. Why would the state subsidize such an exorbitant, unessential, energy-consuming entertainment method like gaming?

I assume the topic creator is talking about actual Socialism and not the kleptocracies masquerading as socialism/communism for the last century. Actual socialism would not be like that.

Can you give me some real-world examples of this "actual socialism" please?

None of these people are describing even theoretical socialism.

Worker co-ops wouldn't exist in socialism, they're utterly pointless. There's no GoFundMe. There's no money period. Everything is centralized and distributed based on need. Trade isn't a thing. That's capitalism. You know, the thing we're eliminating completely?

If you wanted to make a game you have to convince all of society (in reality, the party leaders) to distribute the resources to do it. Just how you had to do this in order to produce movies or anything else. If you can't convince them, you don't get to make it.

This one guy is saying that people should go without housing or food or medical care in order for him to be able to produce Donkey Kong Bananza. Because that's like, good for society, or something. Talk about fucking selfish greed.

"We would see more people be able to take a risk and start a studio." No, they can't quit their jobs they've been assigned. They're literally trying to STEAL from society by not producing what society has ordered them to produce in order to fuck around with something nobody wants while demanding a continued resource allocation despite being a malingerer. You're talking about being a fucking traitor.

Failure is the best teacher for creative art in all forms, failure isn't something to be ashamed for, it's a learning experience; yet in the current system, it's punished, both by publishers and fans. Would a socialist system allow for failure and learning without that type of punishment, would it also take gamers to become more mature and understanding towards devs and not treat a "bad" as some sort of betrayal?

In socialism a failure is TREASON. Unless you're a high level Party member, and not even then (see: purges), you going off and doing your own fucking thing and FAILING is far far worse than under capitalism. You didn't just waste the investors resources or your own, you wasted EVERYONES. For entirely selfish purposes. And it sounds like your selfish purposes were to GET RICH which is ALSO TREASON.

They're literally all for socialism and against capitalism because they're obsessed with finding something to blame their unhappiness on and demanding the exact oppose because that obviously must be nothing but perfect happiness. Be it all of society or their gender.

"That wasn't actual socialism!" Meanwhile, those countries look exactly as Marx/Lenin/Mao explained they should look. Like what the fuck do you think "dictatorship of the proletariat" even means? What do you think "FROM EACH according to their ability, TO EACH according to their needs" even means? IT LITERALLY SAYS WHAT IT MEANS: YOU GIVE AS YOUR TOLD, AND RECEIVE AS OTHERS BELIEVE YOU DESERVE.

Whatever your personal interests are, they do. not. matter. That's the entire problem of capitalism! Endless waste on things that do. not matter. except that people say they want them. Socialism is supposed to eliminate all this and only produce what's socially necessary. If you can't convince "society" that it deserves to exist, resources are not wasted on making it exist.

On the other hand, since there's far more chuds in the world, we can be sure that under socialism we would produce pedophile games and only pedophile games like Stellar Blade 2. And also direct resources to genocide, be it against trans people or Palestinians. "THATS NOT ACTUAL SOCIALISM" they'll yell (silently to themselves) as some chud shoots them in the back of the head for being a counter-revolutionary.

[Himu]

"AAA games would still exist under socialism" 

lmao leftists and their brain AIDS

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Because this is truly fucking bonkers insane shit that only exists in the darkest corners of the internet. 4chan, Nazi websites, etc. It's started to pop up more recently on the Nazi-friendly Twitter but that is still a very insulated bubble that normies aren't aware of.

Any moderate who sees this is going to be immediately disgusted. And even a lot of "normal" Republicans who usually vote red but aren't MAGA diehards and aren't terminally online are going to be like "the fuck???"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ufc-fighter-josh-hokit-calls-michelle-obama-a-man-in-post-fight-interview-at-ufc-freedom-250.1551052/page-2#post-156488524

Yet he supports Twitter with the blue check mark 

Giving money to Elon is the only way he can maintain an erection.

[benji]

Not to mention things become a shit show when someone posts something awful/bigoted, and then that post gets like hundreds of likes.  Then mods have to go into every individual user that liked the post, and separately explain why they were banned.

They don't have to do this.  They don't have to punish anyone for likes, they could solely punish posts.

[benji]

Threads like that "would there be games under socialism" make me sometimes want to sign up AS MYSELF just to explain how none of them are describing socialism, they're describing treason under socialism. Just some simple post about how they're all assuming capitalism still exists in their socialist fantasies. Some brief explainer like I posted above and addressing possible complaints like:
"'What about Scandinavian welfare states?' That's capitalism.
'Well what about market socialism?' That's capitalism.
'Well in current China...' That's capitalism.

If at any point you're thinking 'well, I'll just take my own money and go off and start...' you're talking about capitalism."

But it'd just end like:

User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

[Mediocre Lager]

People wouldn't get banned for just liking the wrong posts. They'd also get banned for not liking the right posts.

Guaranteed some prominent member would see that no one is liking their posts and bitch about all the people who posted after them and didn't like it. If that didn't work they'd edit in "#TransRights" or something at the end of it then accuse everyone else of being genocide enablers because they didn't click that Like button.

Could you even imagine what NepNep would do if she saw everyone ignoring her wisdom? It would be a massacre.

[Mediocre Lager]

Can we please get some kind of like button or some variation of it? If I agree with someone said, I shouldn’t have to quote them every single time. PLEASE! People be saying witty and clever stuff and I wanna give them a like.

This is exactly why I don't want a like button. You start rewarding witty & clever posts and the website turns into Reddit.

Or, even worse, TheBire 

We would never post anything witty or clever here  

[simiansmarts]

famiboards has already banned people for liking 'problematic' posts so it would be another shitshow on RE