Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Potato]

And now, today in not a conspiracy or extremist forum: https://www.resetera.com/threads/june-20-2026-iran-closes-the-strait-of-hormuz-after-israels-repeated-attacks-on-lebanon.1556176/page-2

Is the world gonna do something about Israel at some point?

What can realistically be done about Israel? , they are a bunch of wild dogs at this point.

Regime change?

isreal is like the one country where the government 100% represents the population. no regime change will improve that country

All the tapes from Epstein that israel has of trump fucking kids probably weigh heavily on his mind. The only way to explain how Trump behaves toward Russia and Israel is that they have leverage over him.

Whats the reason for that though?

The only logical reason I can think of is that billionaires run this country and while they might fund both parties, in reality they own everything and wholeheartedly are Republicans at heart.

It's always, always, always, always, always about rich business owners having their taxes cut. Nothing more, nothing less. They're fine with social progressive causes as long as they don't interfere with their "I get to keep more of the money I earned by not doing any actual work" plans. And since Republicans love to cut taxes on the rich, we see the people pulling the levers in the media constantly make excuses for the GOP.

Because Republicans control the media. They know if they don't linger on the GOP's mistakes, the general public won't either.

Then why do we see the exact same thing on independent leftist media? This is a problem across our society.

I think in terms of leftist media, it simply boils down to the fact that people think Democrats have a concept of shame and can be incited into changing gears if their voters are loud enough. Whether or not that's true is probably dependent on the Democrat and on the cause in question, but it's a belief that a lot of people share.

By comparison, Republican voters are there for the party itself and its causes second, so they don't have any energy for or interest in yelling at the party to change causes. They edit their own beliefs in realtime to pivot to whatever the party tells them to believe.

The markets just do anything that the GOP wants at this point, completely ignoring reality, and I don't know how the fuck you fight that as a Democrat to be honest.

We treat all our politicians like victims of happenstance because we continue to fundamentally believe some of these people care about or can be brought to care about of our class interests. None of them materially do; even if you think that one or two of them are caring people individually, you are not engaging with the reality that their personal sentiments are rendered through layers of consultation, lobbying, and marketing in the service of the ultimate goal of the political class which is the maintenance of American imperialism at the behest of capitalists.

A better country would have long since found where these people live and protested there, maybe chased some of them out, put them in the stockades. But we sit idly by under the impression that the Democrat and Republican theater is legitimately about incompetent good versus unfathomable evil and that we are helpless victims with no agency caught in the middle, like nameless extras running during the finale of a superhero movie. In that vain we act like children ourselves.

Seems like the future is every country but the US and Israel cutting a deal with Iran resulting in the US being fully cut off from the rest of the world.

As an American it's starting to feel like the country will collapse irrevocably by the end of the year. Short of total and absolute political revolution there's no future here but oblivion.

It's literally the end of civilization and global starvation, or doing something about Israel.

Damn, tough decision there

Well, they do have nukes. But I don't think there's any way out except military occupation. They either burn out and take the whole world down with it, or that. We've seen what happens when you let fascist countries continue. They won't stop. They're crazy bloodthirsty psychopaths.

I fully believe Israel wants to be the next country to use a nuclear weapon.

Israel's territorial and genocidal ambitions need to be stopped

The US wont survive conservatism and Israel unless something changes

Can change the US to the whole world.

THIS world won't survive the contradictions of conservatism and Zionism. THE world will.

There's a definite difference.

The Zionists need to abandon their "Greater Israel" obsession and simply accept the creation of a Palestinian state, along with respecting permanent borders.

Until that happens, these wars will never end.

And unless the United States passes laws banning foreign-influence donations and funding for US elections (cough AIPAC cough), the US will continue to be pulled into all these conflicts.

That's stupid though, we can't be treating the GOP like they're toddlers who have yet to be blessed with the ability to roll on their own tummies. If we want them to act like real people, if we want them to act responsibly, we need to help them accountable. Not doing that is how we get to where we are right now.

They need to be treated like adults with agency over their own actions, not babies who aren't ready for tummy time yet.

Treating them like adults and holding them accountable means treating them like traitors to society and humanity but that's a bridge too far for the other people in power for whatever reason.

But no, maybe one day they'll wake up and "work across the aisle!"

Very true. The world historically has survived through worse than a destructive apartheid state.

Yep. There is relief in seeing the collapse and raging contradictions of ostensibly imperial and immoral systems in real time because they do not deserve to remain. Like if America ceases to be a superpower, so fucking be it. My only annoyance is that most folks still are not seizing the opportunity to guide and work towards the building of new systems (or worse, they're trying to just do nicer neoliberalism.) People are still passive and feel helpless; indeed, they think everything, their world, is ending. But the moment you emotionally free yourself from an investment in the maintenance of colonialism is the moment a lot of stress goes away, or at least can be directed to more productive issues.

Goddamn it.

Fucking muzzle Israel already. The horrors have gone on long enough.

At this point they need to be invaded and forced to stop committing all this evil.

Is Israel also not feeling the effects of the oil shortage and economy? Probably because it's a welfare state that gets all the money provided to them by the United States and thus don't really have to care.

Israel was rotten from the start. Trying to form a religious ethno-state in a place where indigenous people already resided makes them no better than the Nazis.

The world will never know peace as long as that parasitical entity called Israel is allowed free reign.

We can regime change everyone else why cant we regime change Israel?

The fact that it is crazy to cut off a small country like israel for the US benefits, tells a lot about how """"strange"""" the relationship is.

If the rumors of Epstein being affiliated with the Mossad are true, then, IF that is true, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Trump would do nothing because he's terrified of what Israel has on him.

Israel isn't going to do that. They are fully committed to the "Greater Israel" thing. Killing and raping muslims (and their children) is just entertainment to them. They're not going to stop until they ARE stopped. It's that simple.

A common thought I've had throughout this conflict is it really feels like post 9/11 Islamophobia was just a smokescreen for Isreal to do far worse.

The entire world needs to sanction Israel like they did to apartheid South Africa.

Oh wait, that would be antisemitic.

Forget Israel seemingly controlling the US, no one in Europe seems to care as Israel craters the global economy either.

Even if Epstein himself wasn't Mossad (I think he was, the links with Maxwell, her father etc seem way too strong, but that's besides the point), I'm pretty sure Mossad would've found a way to acquire the unredacted files regardless.

They certainly have profited from it. Many far-right parties in Europe have had close ties with Israel too (despite often having very antisemitic members). They thrive on Islamophobia, and they want to use "Jews" as a stick to beat Islamic people with. In reality they don't give a fuck about regular Jews, and they adhere to the worst antisemitic conspiracy theories, often connected to hateful rubbish like "the great replacement" or "Eurabia". The whole anti-immigration thing is just that; Islamophobia under another name.

The so-called "Syrian refugee crisis" really ramped things up post-9/11, and it turned a lot of stupid people into hateful bigots.

Israel really needs to become a pariah state in the same way other genocidal regimes are, and I feel like this moment is as close as it will get to happening (barring an actual anti-Zionist candidate in the White House).

As others have said, if anywhere needs regime change, it's Israel, though it would be more accurate to say it needs some kind of whole-scale culture change with how high support there is for the genocide/apartheid. Certainly getting rid of Bibi will not suffice.

Don't know what that would take. Some kind of invasion and subsequent military defeat and then propaganda campaign like with the Axis powers?

Israel owns America, what more proof do you need?

Release of the Epstein Files?

I just don't understand what's the end goal of Israel, do they plan to be in an eternal war with every neighbour of theirs? The opinion of everyone about them has already sunk into the abyss not even their defenders defend them that much anymore. When will they stop?

There is no end goal except death and expansion. That's all there is to it. I've said it before in this thread; they will not stop by their own volition...they have to be stopped.

I just don't understand what's the end goal of Israel, do they plan to be in an eternal war with every neighbour of theirs? The opinion of everyone about them has already sunk into the abyss not even their defenders defend them that much anymore. When will they stop?

They want Israel to expand across the entire middle east.

Google "Greater Israel"

Just want to say that as a Palestinian:

It's genuinely disgusting seeing time and time again from posters on here try to pin all of Israel's actions on Netanyahu, and not the deep rot in all of Israeli society that has allowed them to massacre Palestinians and beyond since its very inception.

That, and the insinuation that as long as Israel "stays within its borders," everything is all hunkey dory. That the continued genocide and apartheid of Palestinians is both inevitable and acceptable.

Y'all need to practice some shame before you post.

I do wonder how much US capitulation to Isreal, outside of religious Zionism and cynical imperialism, is genuine fear that their leadership is suicidal and will lash out at the world if they are ever seriously told "no". Basically what they've accused Iran and North Korea of being for decades.

Also zero bans for any of the people who posted that Israel doesn't have a right to exist. Odd.

Wow, crazy if true. 

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Because Republicans control the media.

so close yet so far

liberals and republicans are the same monster of capitalism, my friend. It's not only one of them that controls the media.

But keep thinking your Demorat "friends" are not the very same people who will starve you to fill their own pockets.

[benji]

Indeed. 

Wow, crazy if true. 

The difference between you and me is that I've been sounding the alarm against American imperialism for years off and online before it finally came back to bite American allies in the ass. I was able to understand that just because my economy was stable, just because I have access to the benefits of imperial standards of living, didn't mean this was a good thing for other people, that other people's lives mattered. Half of y'all only came out of the woodwork to play-act at being anti-American when Trump got back into office a second time and tanked your shit, and I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the fact that lessons have still not been learned that this is not a situation of individual actors and isolated countries who somehow have no hand in what is going on. We are all in this shit together, and all Western countries are culpable for the myriad of decision-making and happy accidents that led us to this moment today. We have a duty as human beings to act in the best regards of the most vulnerable, to support them unconditionally, not just when we finally perceive the negative effects to ourselves. Again, y'all are getting only a taste of what you actually deserve.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

the horrors of knowing too much

if only we could all go back to being little sheep following blue no matter who

sigh

im tired

[Potato]

Indeed. 

Wow, crazy if true. 

The difference between you and me is that I've been sounding the alarm against American imperialism for years off and online before it finally came back to bite American allies in the ass. I was able to understand that just because my economy was stable, just because I have access to the benefits of imperial standards of living, didn't mean this was a good thing for other people, that other people's lives mattered. Half of y'all only came out of the woodwork to play-act at being anti-American when Trump got back into office a second time and tanked your shit, and I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the fact that lessons have still not been learned that this is not a situation of individual actors and isolated countries who somehow have no hand in what is going on. We are all in this shit together, and all Western countries are culpable for the myriad of decision-making and happy accidents that led us to this moment today. We have a duty as human beings to act in the best regards of the most vulnerable, to support them unconditionally, not just when we finally perceive the negative effects to ourselves. Again, y'all are getting only a taste of what you actually deserve.

I deserve safety, I deserve love, I deserve free money without working, I deserve hentai paedo shit to goon to...


When will this genocide end?

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Ugh, no, not fictional hot lesbians having explicit lesbian sex, my only weakness. I'm melting, I'm melting. Ohhhhh, what a world.

You don't understand, it's fictional hot lesbians having explicit lesbian sex in a way that only ladies, and men who call themselves lesbians, would appreciate, and would leave cis-het men completely uninterested.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

I mean you know they didn't actually write that, right? The first sentence alone is a dead giveaway.

"love machine" 

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Normalization is seeing a big pair of titties and getting turned on my dude

Absolutely disgusting. 

How are we supposed to destroy capitalism, colonialism, and white supremacy while men still find women attractive. 

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Me, marathon watching explicit macromastia porn on max volume, my sore and battered cock openly hanging out of my cum-encrusted jeans, stinking like hell and visibly in a state of extreme exhaustion: "why can't women be seen as strong and powerful? Toxic masculinity sucks"

[Uncle]

Somebody use the riotous account to make a thread about this:

 Some cis do care. (But not enough to be a real ally.)

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

 

 

this sounds an awful lot like "we can't pin the trans violence on anyone who actually says they hate trans people, they're getting roughed up because they're sex workers or involved with illegal drugs, so it's the systems making them feel bad that force them to get involved with illegal drugs that are the real problem"

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

I did not expect you all to get trolled by an AI post. Do better.

This motherfucker has 5,641 posts! 

"From Tokyo, Japan"

As a 40yo white man

but I'm imagining a big studio like Capcom doing something bold like this

Please stop doing that, you're getting globs of pre-cum everywhere. 

[Uncle]

since I'm not intelligent enough to figure it out myself, what do you mean by "engaging with the fundamental reality of generative AI underneath a Western neoliberal context."?

Most people in this topic are not understanding what generative AI is actually being used for and who it's for. It's not to help speed up workflows because we have data that says that there's a negligible to negative difference in pipelines that use generative AI because you have to go back and fix the shit.

I call bullshit on this because there are countless uses where you don't have to "go back and fix the shit"

if you use AI for initial brainstorming and concept art, there's nothing to fix, you're going to be iterating on the design as you manually create the final artwork/models anyway, if it generates too many buttons on a character's coat then you solidify it into what you really want when you're finalizing

as a writer you can ask for 50 good medieval fantasy names, or 50 interesting things that might happen aboard a space station given X context, or 50 ways for your characters to get out of a jam and move the story forward when you've written yourself into a corner

It's also not to meet a demand on part of consumers either because no one wants this fucking crap but capitalists and AI glazers have decided "fuck you, we're going to shove it down your throat anyway."

chatgpt was at the top of all app stores since it was first introduced, and it was only overtaken by claude

billions of people want AI, it's not preloaded on these phones, people are manually going to the app store and downloading it so they can use it

[Snoopy]

Nep having never been drunk or high explains a lot

[benji]

You don't understand, it's fictional hot lesbians having explicit lesbian sex in a way that only ladies, and men who call themselves lesbians, would appreciate, and would leave cis-het men completely uninterested.

Absolutely disgusting. 

How are we supposed to destroy capitalism, colonialism, and white supremacy while men still find women attractive. 

Please stop doing that, you're getting globs of pre-cum everywhere. 

Sounds like somebody is discovering just how tough of cookie intersectionality is to crack.

It's also not to meet a demand on part of consumers either because no one wants this fucking crap but capitalists and AI glazers have decided "fuck you, we're going to shove it down your throat anyway."

chatgpt was at the top of all app stores since it was first introduced, and it was only overtaken by claude

billions of people want AI, it's not preloaded on these phones, people are manually going to the app store and downloading it so they can use it

Maybe learn how capitalism operates: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_consciousness

Just do some basic dialectical analysis: the fact that so many people "chose" AI is a perfect example of how they aren't free to choose what they really want and instead had it forced down their throats by capitalists dripping gobs of precum.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/if-you-could-only-choose-1-game-this-holiday-ocarina-time-remake-or-gta-6.1550800/page-29#post-156730099

  User banned (3 weeks): Antagonizing another user, history of similar behavior

You cant fool me I'm familiar with your game 😂

Guy is literally on record saying he never played the series before.

but he has to tell everyone how it's not gonna be a success or how it's not gonna live up to the hype, or how it's gonna get delayed because they haven't put it up for pre order yet (lol)

But it's the GTA Fans who are obnoxious actually.

I could give a flying shit about someone not liking my favorite series but Remember calling people who like the series casual fools who actually don't realize it's ass cause they don't know any better is completely fine and arguing against that means you are insane.

I'll drop out of the thread. It's been a rough year, I've been having a rough time with health over the last month (thankfully it's getting better) and this week has been a weird one for other reasons. My posts become more like trolling when I'm in a bad mood and it's not helping anyone. Me ranting about how I dislike GTA and Ocarina of Time doesn't do anyone any good. GTA fans and Ocarina fans don't deserve that.

Antagonizing other users is fine when everyone is the target. Admits to trolling but oh no, he was in a bad mood so I guess it's fine.

[kaleidoscopium]

Socialism is making great strides here and it's a incredible to watch.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/3-democratic-socialists-have-ousted-incumbents-in-ny’s-legislature-claire-valdez-and-brad-lander-win-darializa-on-track-to-oust-espaillat.1559158/page-3#post-156902866

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Y'ALL 👏 AREN'T 👏 SERIOUS 👏

That's a lot of NepentheSlop you expect us to read.

I guess cruelty really is the point. 

[benji]

That's a lot of NepentheSlop you expect us to read.

I expect y'all to scroll past instead of learning what y'all can do to end colonialism. Sounds about white.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Sounds like somebody is discovering just how tough of cookie intersectionality is to crack.

Actually, it's really easy. You just gotta
DO  THE  WORK 

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Socialism is making great strides here and it's a incredible to watch.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/3-democratic-socialists-have-ousted-incumbents-in-ny’s-legislature-claire-valdez-and-brad-lander-win-darializa-on-track-to-oust-espaillat.1559158/page-3#post-156902866

Socialism? You mean rebranded lib shit? Shoot me a message when actual ML candidates are rallied for by DSA and not democrat "leftist" plants.

[benji]

Socialism is making great strides here and it's a incredible to watch.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/3-democratic-socialists-have-ousted-incumbents-in-ny’s-legislature-claire-valdez-and-brad-lander-win-darializa-on-track-to-oust-espaillat.1559158/page-3#post-156902866

Socialism? You mean rebranded lib shit? Shoot me a message when actual ML candidates are rallied for by DSA and not democrat "leftist" plants.

Watch these elected libs caucus with the Mensheviks and other elected reactionaries in the Democratic Party and accept committee seats and other perks instead of forming an alternative Congress and occupying the seat of executive power then outlawing the Democratic Party as the people are demanding.

[Besticus Maximus]

I'm going to give Nepenthe her first joint and fix this for good

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

just say all the right things to pay lip service to the hasan "leftists" while voting to continue funding israel and ukraine

[jooseloose]

fuck you jeff, the transformer films are a masterpiece that MCU slop wishes they could be.

I unironically love most of the Transformers movies. Just perfect summer blockbuster popcorn flicks where you can switch your brain off and watch the Michael Bay nonsense with some of the best CGI effects you'll ever see.

[benji]

just say all the right things to pay lip service to the hasan "leftists" while voting to continue funding israel and ukraine

"bububububu we don't have a majority"

Yeah, neither did Lenin or Mao or Kim Il Sung. Nor did they have a capitalist platform like Twitch. 

[benji]

[HaughtyFrank]

She's a prison abolitionist who can't answer basic question about the stance.

Gonna be honest, as far as how I personally feel about a candidate is concerned, that's an incredibly minor flaw. Especially when the "basic question," IIRC, is a gotcha question about some hypothetical that she'll never actually have any substantial control over. This isn't much different from Dukakis being asked a fucked up question about his anti-capital punishment stance and that becoming a whole ass thing because his answer was deemed imperfect.

Do I want her to be more polished? Sure. Is she going to have to reconcile her prison abolitionism with some hard choices down the line? Sure. But I find myself prioritizing polish these days much, much less than I used to back in the day. She's almost certainly about to be a Congresswoman in the not too distant future and she'll be working at a place where a core issue is not the absence of polish.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/3-democratic-socialists-have-ousted-incumbents-in-ny%E2%80%99s-legislature-claire-valdez-and-brad-lander-win-darializa-on-track-to-oust-espaillat.1559158/post-156905263

"You want to abolish prisons, what would happen to murderers?"

"WOOOW, gotcha question much?"

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Why not just explain wanting to abolish the current for profit prisons and fund a more humane rehabilitation process that would see killers still placed in custody. It's not hard.

[Potato]

I'm going to give Nepenthe her first joint and fix this for good

Might need to give her a solid length too. She's probably a virgin given we've never seen her talk about any relationships.

[Besticus Maximus]

I'm going to give Nepenthe her first joint and fix this for good

Might need to give her a solid length too. She's probably a virgin given we've never seen her talk about any relationships.