Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)
benji dateline='[url=tel:1782631255' wrote: 1782631255[/url]']
Boredfrom dateline='[url=tel:1782630816' wrote: 1782630816[/url]']
Nah, nah, nah. Let stop pretending you aren’t doing this shit too. You could easy ignore it or pretend the “shoe didn’t fit”. But you did because one part of your brain knows is all kind of BS but want to feel validated. 

Uncle just said to me he doesn’t want to discuss stuff either, he just wants to cheerlead AI because he is in the right side of history. Why are you not complaining about him?
Because I care about posters dishonestly attacking other posters which creates hostility they can deliberately blame others for, not people writing about stuff that interests them or championing some point of view that they're clearly willing to discuss.

Hostility like when filler posted a special needs person and compared him to me?
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it has to be like a language barrier or something, is that too charitable? is it worth trying to explain?

(06-28-2026, 06:46 AM)Uncle wrote: I can see your point of view, fully understand it, and still find fault with it and reject it

the "middle ground" can be just as incorrect as any point of view

if someone says "the state should execute all jaywalkers" and someone else says "the state should not kill any jaywalkers," the middle ground of "the state should execute half of all jaywalkers" is still completely wrong

this says "I CAN see your point of view and understand it and reject it," not "I currently see your point of view of whatever you want to express and actively reject it"

it says "the middle ground CAN be incorrect," not "your positions ARE incorrect," because again, I don't know what you're trying to imply that you're referring back to, because again you're not expressing your position, you just continually post sipping kermits as if everyone is supposed to understand the paragraph this is a stand-in for

the meaning of what I've stated here is "it is possible for humans to understand a point of view and still find fault with it," not being specific because I don't know whatever it is you currently want to argue about

just because you articulate a position that you believe is "middle ground" and reasonable does not inherently mean that that it's actually the correct position to hold, again this is all vibes-based, you believe that you reached out with an olive branch, some sort of compromise, but arguments aren't settled based on the emotional weight given to a position, there aren't "rules" I need to follow like now I have to shake hands and fully accept whatever you said because it represents a compromise to you

this is explaining the meta-logic of the discussion, it is not making any determinations in terms of actual positions held by anyone because I still don't even know what you're referring to

if you want to talk, we can talk; I haven't rejected anything specific you've said, but I'm saying that I'm allowed to, if I don't consider them to make sense
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(06-28-2026, 06:30 AM)benji wrote:
(06-28-2026, 06:21 AM)Uncle wrote: you're not, it's local on my own hardware, a 5090 with 64 gigs of system ram, no data centers used
I guess if anyone wants to locate Uncle just look for a place with a massive localized drought around a residence.

I can tell where he lives from the actual hellscape that's formed around his hovel.
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(06-28-2026, 07:30 AM)Boredfrom wrote: Hostility like when filler posted a special needs person and compared him to me?
Are you actually interested in discussing this? I'm willing to entertain the larger discussion of what personal insults I allow without saying anything and my lower tolerance for dishonest and passive aggressive ones, especially broadly targeted ones. I can't know because of how you post however, this could be just you reaching for the latest thing you can feel you can grab from a post to throw at whoever you're angry with and put meaningless points on the board.
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it has to be like a language barrier or something, is that too charitable? is it worth trying to explain?

Uncle dateline='[url=tel:1782629184' wrote: 1782629184[/url]']
I can see your point of view, fully understand it, and still find fault with it and reject it

the "middle ground" can be just as incorrect as any point of view

if someone says "the state should execute all jaywalkers" and someone else says "the state should not kill any jaywalkers," the middle ground of "the state should execute half of all jaywalkers" is still completely wrong

this says "I CAN see your point of view," not "I currently see your point of view of whatever you want to express and actively reject it"

it says "the middle ground CAN be incorrect," not "your positions ARE incorrect," because again, I don't know what you're trying to imply that you're referring back to, because again you're not expressing your position, you just continually post sipping kermits as if everyone is supposed to understand the paragraph this is a stand-in for

the meaning of what I've stated here is "it is possible for humans to understand a point of view and still find fault with it," not being specific because I don't know whatever it is you currently want to argue about

just because you articulate a position that you believe is "middle ground" and reasonable does not inherently mean that that it's actually the correct position to hold, again this is all vibes-based, you believe that you reached out with an olive branch, some sort of compromise, but arguments aren't settled based on the emotional weight given to a position, there aren't "rules" I need to follow like now I have to shake hands and fully accept whatever you said because it represents a compromise to you

this is explaining the meta-logic of the discussion, it is not making any determinations in terms of actual positions held by anyone because I still don't even know what you're referring to

if you want to talk, we can talk; I haven't rejected anything specific you've said, but I'm saying that I'm allowed to, if I don't consider them to make sense

Nah, dude I get. Just saying that I don’t think you even try most of the time and I have been the one asking me “maybe Uncle is right and people are overly critical of AI” or “maybe I overreacted about sources”. 

But that’s on me, admittedly. Yeshrug
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(06-28-2026, 07:41 AM)Boredfrom wrote: Nah, dude I get.

do you? just above you posted that "Uncle just said to me he doesn’t want to discuss stuff either," but in this post as I said, if you want to talk we can talk

so if you understood that all along, then you must've posted the other thing just to be an asshole, if you actually knew I was always open to discussion anyway, as long as you actually articulate a position that can be discussed

if it "feels like I don't try" it's because it annoys the fuck out of everyone in this thread to get into it, so I let your sipping kermits go past because there's nothing specific enough there to discuss and it's not going to have an effect on the ultimate outcome of anything anyway
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(06-28-2026, 07:39 AM)benji wrote:
(06-28-2026, 07:30 AM)Boredfrom wrote: Hostility like when filler posted a special needs person and compared him to me?
Are you actually interested in discussing this? I'm willing to entertain the larger discussion of what personal insults I allow without saying anything and my lower tolerance for dishonest and passive aggressive ones, especially broadly targeted ones. I can't know because of how you post however, this could be just you reaching for the latest thing you can feel you can grab from a post to throw at whoever you're angry with and put meaningless points on the board.

I just saying that I ignored filler provocations since that time he made clear he wanted to be personal. I was passive aggressive because I didn’t want something to be personal and get in an endless discussion. To me, passive aggressive shit can be easily ignored over direct provocations and insults. Passive Aggressive can also not be outright malicious. 


But that’s me.

I don’t like rising prices and I dislike that people feel that is worth mocking ERA for it (beyond the insane posts like crashes and guillotines). I can admit I don’t have the economic knowledge to make a case about why is “normal” or “expected”, so I decided just to make a visceral meaningless comment and at worst I said someone that is infuriating that “just have a better budget” is used like minimum wage is equal everywhere. I didn’t win any discussion, but I didn’t know we keep a score.

And is not like I have any clout here to pull a ERA prominent member and this posts mean something beyond. I’m a nobody here.
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(06-28-2026, 07:05 AM)benji wrote:
(06-28-2026, 06:59 AM)Boredfrom wrote: “Attacking others”

YOU ASKED ME TO EXPAND! 

“Stop being passive aggressive” Social Justice Warrior 

“YOU ARE ATTACKING ME” Six
I'm not referring to myself at all and you clearly do not understand what I'm saying like normal. You were attacking others when you were doing the passive aggressive whining that other people were not being irrationally mad about the prices and showing their ethnic privilege by being rational. 

You could have just made clear that like Era's brilliant minds you're mad and want to take it out on others. It saves time of my assuming you actually want to discuss anything at all rather than just throwing a tantrum about others not sharing your emotions all the time.

(06-28-2026, 07:02 AM)Boredfrom wrote: Also, Benji, what is the solution about increase prices.  Is it tho?

“Let me explain why this is normal…”

No, you said you had a solution. 

“They are stabilizing…”

A solution…

“You are fool that follows the vibes. Budget more.” Snob
As typical, you're inventing arguments I'm supposed to have made to setup your attacks because I never said anything like that. Yes, budgeting is the solution for your complaint. There is no other solution and there never has been.

The only solution to rising prices is to either pay up or refuse to pay up. If enough people choose to not pay, the price WILL fall. However, good luck trying to get a general boycott going. Maybe speak to people at Resetera, I hear they're good at boycotting things...
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Double post. Fuck
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the actual solution is more companies noticing that they can now make a lot of money manufacturing ram and growing that industry so there are more options

we were complacent for too long expecting that space to be just fine but it's gotten more and more intricate and specialized to where no one can just "jump in" and the companies realized they held all the cards, globally

it's like if petroleum was relatively pointless for centuries and then engines come along and whoa buddy
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(06-28-2026, 07:46 AM)Uncle wrote:
(06-28-2026, 07:41 AM)Boredfrom wrote: Nah, dude I get.

do you? just above you posted that "Uncle just said to me he doesn’t want to discuss stuff either," but in this post as I said, if you want to talk we can talk

so if you understood that all along, then you must've posted the other thing just to be an asshole, if you actually knew I was always open to discussion anyway, as long as you actually articulate a position that can be discussed

if it "feels like I don't try" it's because it annoys the fuck out of everyone in this thread to get into it,  so I let your sipping kermits go past because there's nothing specific enough there to discuss and it's not going to have an effect on the ultimate outcome of anything anyway

Welp, I did try to de escalate the discussion.

It is the same with me. Yeshrug  Why try to discuss this if Uncle is already saying “I hope everyone uses AI to spite ERA”. What you want to discuss if you mentality is already self righteous spite and if I mention it we got three pages of rants about this stuff and annoying everyone.
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A) cannot even remember having said that, certainly not recently, so again randomly putting words in people's mouths, B) does not need to be hoped for because it's already happening, it's not about anything I might want, it's about watching the entertaining show of how they react to the way the industry is already changing

we're already all here to watch the increasingly unhinged ways that they react to a world that doesn't perfectly match their desires, you just now classify this as "self righteous spite" because it's an area in which you want to agree with them
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"Oh boy, two new pages, did something happen on era?"

*It's AI*

Everything worthwhile is being destroyed
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(06-28-2026, 08:31 AM)Uncle wrote: A) cannot even remember having said that, certainly not recently, so again randomly putting words in people's mouths, B) does not need to be hoped for because it's already happening, it's not about anything I might want, it's about watching the entertaining show of how they react to the way the industry is already changing

we're already all here to watch the increasingly unhinged ways that they react to a world that doesn't perfectly match their desires, you just now classify this as "self righteous spite" because it's an area in which you want to agree with them

Like I said, you don’t even try, why bother? Thanks for proving me right.
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(06-18-2026, 03:22 AM)Uncle wrote:
(06-18-2026, 02:41 AM)Boredfrom wrote: Uncle, you forgot who is the government now?

and you still seem to be on your idiotic "listen to who is saying the thing rather than the message/action itself"

Uncle wrote:we're already all here to watch the increasingly unhinged ways that they react to a world that doesn't perfectly match their desires, you just now classify this as "self righteous spite" because it's an area in which you want to agree with them

Wink
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(06-28-2026, 06:14 AM)Uncle wrote:
(06-28-2026, 05:37 AM)benji wrote:
(06-28-2026, 04:27 AM)Boredfrom wrote: But that's none of my business...
(06-28-2026, 04:34 AM)Boredfrom wrote: Rolleyes 

Oh, the privileged Anglosphere.
You got some kind of point you're trying to make or you just going to be a passive aggressive whiner like normal? Make the case for why a price increase of a single game is going to end the gaming industry. The PS5 was $650 at launch in 2026 dollars.

the bire has officially peaked, this is the pinnacle. Unless the rest of Benji v Boredfrom is done in AI I cannot in good faith continue on. There's no point, not when greatness has been achieved.
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Video games were made to keep y'all housed away and not on the streets of revolution.

folx being priced out of consoles is a good thing, maybe now they can stop complaining and actually take to the streets.
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All this time spent arguing over saving money in a capitalism bank when the solution to high chip prices is clearly mutual aid and consensual sex work
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(06-28-2026, 10:20 AM)Besticus Maximus wrote: All this time spent arguing over saving money in a capitalism bank when the solution to high chip prices is clearly mutual aid and consensual sex work

What's your Only Fans?
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(06-28-2026, 11:20 AM)Potato wrote:
(06-28-2026, 10:20 AM)Besticus Maximus wrote: All this time spent arguing over saving money in a capitalism bank when the solution to high chip prices is clearly mutual aid and consensual sex work

What's your Only Fans?


I refuse to use only fans for ethical reasons but you can venmo me on x
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(06-28-2026, 11:20 AM)Potato wrote:
(06-28-2026, 10:20 AM)Besticus Maximus wrote: All this time spent arguing over saving money in a capitalism bank when the solution to high chip prices is clearly mutual aid and consensual sex work

What's your Only Fans?

tell us you support israel without telling us you support israel
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(06-28-2026, 11:23 AM)Besticus Maximus wrote:
(06-28-2026, 11:20 AM)Potato wrote:
(06-28-2026, 10:20 AM)Besticus Maximus wrote: All this time spent arguing over saving money in a capitalism bank when the solution to high chip prices is clearly mutual aid and consensual sex work

What's your Only Fans?


I refuse to use only fans for ethical reasons but you can venmo me on x

At least offer to jerk me off. Sheesh.
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(06-28-2026, 08:00 AM)Boredfrom wrote: I don’t like rising prices and I dislike that people feel that is worth mocking ERA for it (beyond the insane posts like crashes and guillotines). 
For context, the original thread referenced was the Xbox console price going up, and many responses to that news were absolutely worth mocking. Most weren't mad because they wanted a new Xbox, they were catastrophizing over the next shiny console toy they want to buy several years from now being more expensive. 

The additional context is Era is an enthusiast forum where most own multiple consoles and a capable PC. They aren't being priced out by GTA being slightly more expensive, so why sympathize with them as if they are? You can go read the "What are you buying this month?" threads and see plenty of posters ready to grab 3-6 new releases day and date in a single month. Yeah, some of those are cheaper indies or whatever, but plenty of people on the forum are affluent or come from affluent families. And their response to this news is to fantasize about killing billionaires and society collapsing.

 That is unhinged. 

I don't

Do I personally want to pay more money for one of my hobbies? No, of course not but an explanation isn't an endorsement.
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(06-28-2026, 05:53 AM)Boredfrom wrote: I prefer being passive aggressive because everyone else complains about my rants and I prefer to let things be.

Maybe you can just not post
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ever again nothot
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(06-28-2026, 06:21 AM)Uncle wrote:
(06-28-2026, 05:53 AM)Boredfrom wrote: I’m in the general sentiment that I don’t like to pay more just that Uncle can make a Cat video with creepy hands.

you're not, it's local on my own hardware, a 5090 with 64 gigs of system ram, no data centers used

Okay Dr. Poop
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Oh god it was another 3-way bore autists fight Not like this! Stahp
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Members Only:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-folks-please-write-your-mp-today-to-ask-that-they-sign-the-motion-to-reject-the-ehrcs-new-transphobic-code-of-practice.1547842/page-2

June 10:
Jubilant Duck, post: 156280702, member: 127023 wrote:[CENTER]The EHRC has put forth its proposed new Code of Practice.
If it is not rejected in Parliament by the end of this month (June 2026) then it becomes statutory.
[/CENTER]

The proposed Code enforces a legal framework of segregation for trans people from public life, barring them access to single-sex spaces (in some circumstances the toilets of both sexes, not that trans people would or should use those of their assigned sex as birth), services including healthcare such as breast cancer screenings, and makes vague access to formal women's associations such as the Women's Institute in a manner that has them erring on exclusion.

It also does some other bullshit like stripping trans women out of the legal definition of lesbian.

Beyond the impact on transgender individuals, it will also impact cis women. The Code places a burden on any business and service provider to challenge and enquire about the sex-at-birth of any individual they, or any customer, have any slight reason to suspect may be trans. Have a boyish haircut? You could be challenged. Slightly too tall? You could be challenged. Large, 'man-ish' looking nose?

(to be super practical for a second, let's also consider the huge ask this is of businesses and their employees. the Code is also highly contradictory, and the only possible outcome will be lawsuits. so if you're the pro-business sort this should be a huge issue, too.)

[COLOR=rgb(255, 77, 77)]BUT![/COLOR]

There is a motion tabled in parliament to reject the new code with rapidly-growing support.

[url unfurl=true]https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/65938[/url]

In tabling it, MP Nadia Whittome wrote:
"It ushers in an era of enforced segregation for trans people, the policing of which will be outsourced to service providers, including businesses, charities and public bodies. The Code represents a profound rollback of rights, which will affect trans people directly and erode the principles of inclusion, dignity and equality upon which all our rights depend."
[url unfurl=false]https://www.instagram.com/p/DZFKePhgEwq/[/url]

This morning it had 120 MP signatures, as of right now that list has grown to 127.

127 is not enough, of course. It needs to be much more.

So please, find your MP and write to them. Ask that they become signatories to this motion to reject the code.

Find your MP here:
[URL unfurl="true"]https://members.parliament.uk/FindYourMP[/URL]

If you don't feel confident in writing about these issues, this site will create a pre-filled letter for you:
[URL unfurl="true"]https://writetheletter.bimini.workers.dev/[/URL]

(but please, original letters have much more impact, so try to treat it as a starting point rather than the finished article. there are members of UK Era and Era's trans community who can help you if you ask.)

I cannot stress enough how this is the nuclear 'worst-case' scenario that the trans community has been sounding the alarm bells about over the past couple of years. This is, probably quite literally, do-or-die.

Writing a letter to your MP will take you all of 10 minutes. It's an email. You can give your fellow human beings that.

And if you have some more to give, please forward the above links to your friends and family, too.

Over the past five years a small group of well-connected and well-funded individuals have managed to engineer an undemocratic about-face in terms of trans rights and relations in this country. Even if you don't care about trans people, that it's so easy to hijack UK politics has to be of concern to you. Please help us stop it here and now.


[CENTER]Deadline to convince your MP to vote for the fatal motion:
[TIME format="countdown" parts="0"]2026-06-30 17:00:00 Europe/London[/TIME]
[/CENTER]

forgethyphen, post: 156280849, member: 230959 wrote:Is there anything we can do on the other side of the pond?

Jubilant Duck, post: 156280915, member: 127023 wrote:raise awareness to anyone you know on this side of the pond

aka tell your UK friends, should you be cool and good looking enough to have any

Kyuuji, post: 156281128, member: 31943 wrote:Great thread. Seriously, thank you for making it.

UK peeps, if you care about trans people in this country please take the time to even just send the pre-made letter using the link in the OP. We need every ounce of pressure we can get on this.
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Today:
Gemüsestäbchen, post: 157114720, member: 29177 wrote:Done! I shared it with my friends too - but I noticed the link to this thread is members only... When I wanted to share it on - they couldn't read the info.

Can any Mods make this public?
(Not sure if it's problematic to do so but I figured better to ask)
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Kyuuji, post: 157117960, member: 31943 wrote:Glad to see this pinned, and thankful for everyone who’s let their MP know this is important to them. Means a lot.
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This conversation has run its course. The thread will remain locked while we go through the reports. Any posts that have dismissed concerns around this highly sensitive topic will be actioned.
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The thread is now unlocked. You can continue to dogpile boredfrom.
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(06-28-2026, 02:06 PM)BIONIC wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-folks-please-write-your-mp-today-to-ask-that-they-sign-the-motion-to-reject-the-ehrcs-new-transphobic-code-of-practice.1547842/page-2
Jubilant Duck, post: 156280702, member: 127023 wrote:I cannot stress enough how this is the nuclear 'worst-case' scenario that the trans community has been sounding the alarm bells about over the past couple of years.
Wow, I can't believe they got the extermination camps set up so quickly. And people say government can't do anything.
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