Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Greatness Gone]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-547#post-157922140

I feel like puritan is another word I've slowly grown to hate.

When it comes to Summer/Bikini skins, it's not women in bikinis that's annoying, if it was just a couple of women getting bikinis, especially women who's character would love to wear bikinis, I think no one would have an issue. The problem is.

A whole fucking lie. Context does not matter at all - this is the same forum that said Shuri in Tokon (covered from head to toe) was sexualized. You’d crash out at a female in a bikini no matter what the design was. 

[Boredfrom]

I completely understand being against AI but I don't really understand where it's inconceivable for them that someone could see opportunities in it.

I think is funny because it comes from someone whose push in technological advancement, while positive for cinema, became a crutch to make slop (artistic driven slop) in his final works at SW.

> "CGI is the future, you have to accept it"

> proceeds to make Jedi Rocks

At least people can (mostly) discuss the benefits and problems with using CGI. Maybe the big problem is that AI still doesn’t have a “Jurassic Park’s T Rex” moment.

[benji]

I completely understand being against AI but I don't really understand where it's inconceivable for them that someone could see opportunities in it.

Because like most things they determined it's morally wrong first.  After that it's just a matter of finding reasons for it to be abhorrent and then you just need to find facts that support your claim.

If you do it the other way around you might expose yourself to differing (and wrong) viewpoints.

Their default state is zero-sum black-and-white thinking combined with catastrophizing. It's pretty much all kneejerk based on the most limited information possible, we all know they don't even read articles, let alone entire OPs and sometimes not even entire thread titles.

1. See piece of information.
2. Immediately determine if greatest thing ever or end of life on Earth.
3a. Go with first for anything which is part of something you already love giving you what you already love.
3b. For everything else, since it's easier, simply assume the worst and extrapolate that to whatever worst case consequence you feel will obviously happen from your limited knowledge base.
4. Show your superiority by proclaiming the apocalypse before everyone else so that when it happens they'll remember you were first.
5. Show your superiority by condemning all those dismissing concerns and not rising to the moral challenge presented by the victory of Evil and literal Hell on Earth.
6. Click back to thread list and repeat.

[HaughtyFrank]

I completely understand being against AI but I don't really understand where it's inconceivable for them that someone could see opportunities in it.

I think is funny because it comes from someone whose push in technological advancement, while positive for cinema, became a crutch to make slop (artistic driven slop) in his final works at SW.

> "CGI is the future, you have to accept it"

> proceeds to make Jedi Rocks

You think... you think Boba Fett ever put his dick in there?

[Boredfrom]

Resetera: "Stupid far right, always creating culture wars over nothing"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/andy-serkis-responds-to-question-about-lack-of-diversity-in-%E2%80%98lotr-the-hunt-for-gollum%E2%80%99-casting.1576951/


Resezera: "Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Andy Serkis!!!

This particular brand of brain-rot really grinds my gears

I still remember the Witcher 3 discourse being exceptionally stupid, where predominantly white, woke-scolding Americans were demanding a Polish game dev include more PoC in their middle-ages fantasy Poland game. CDPR put Middle Eastern coded traders and merchants in the Hearts of Stone DLC, and it still wasn't enough. 

It is never enough for these fucking people because misery and whining online is the point.

Yeah, it just seems never enough. You have two of the most expensive fantasy tv shows ever, Rings of Power and House of the Dragon, that have diversity all over the place but a new Lotr movie by Serkins is suddenly a huge issue. Serkins didn't even say that there'll be exclusively white people in the movie, just that if there are it would have to fit within into Tolkien's world and that world is simply based on North Europe, just like Avatar is based on Asia

House of The Dragon at least had the author approval and tried to work it with the lore, at least in the beginning (Currently, it sounds like not so much on either way)

[Uncle]

I think is funny because it comes from someone whose push in technological advancement, while positive for cinema, became a crutch to make slop (artistic driven slop) in his final works at SW.

> "CGI is the future, you have to accept it"

> proceeds to make Jedi Rocks

At least people can (mostly) discuss the benefits and problems with using CGI. Maybe the big problem is that AI still doesn’t have a “Jurassic Park’s T Rex” moment.

ChatGPT itself is already the "jurassic park's t-rex" moment, it was the top app on all app stores since it was first offered, I just checked on my phone and it's STILL #1

billions of people voluntarily downloading it, they wouldn't choose to download it if they didn't find it useful

I would also say that the extent that AI is doing coding these days is more than enough too, if you've ever programmed anything and tried a real coding AI it's 100% magic

it's not really possible to wow people again in a movie magic sense because AI used competently in film will just be as good as our best CGI already is, it's an elevation in productivity and mass accessibility rather than a jump from bad-looking puppets to amazing CGI

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-547#post-157922140

I feel like puritan is another word I've slowly grown to hate.

When it comes to Summer/Bikini skins, it's not women in bikinis that's annoying, if it was just a couple of women getting bikinis, especially women who's character would love to wear bikinis, I think no one would have an issue. The problem is.

A whole fucking lie. Context does not matter at all - this is the same forum that said Shuri in Tokon (covered from head to toe) was sexualized. You’d crash out at a female in a bikini no matter what the design was. 

ok so...you don't like being called a puritan, because you don't think you're a puritan

describe the differences between what you believe should be censored, and what they believe should be censored, like what actually separates you

[Boredfrom]

I also noticed that progressives use diversity to, pardon my expression, also promote more diversity hires. 

I said before that diversity isn’t bad, and I still strongly believe this… but people that care so much about it are often hacks (either whites or PoC). They cannot distinguish between inclusion and tokenism, even if they are PoC.

[HaughtyFrank]

If the designs in the OP are what you would characters as "gooner material" meant solely as masturbation fodder, then I do not know how to characterize your relationship to the human body in any term other than "puritanical"

Sigh. I don't know how many times I gotta say that in a vacuum, these skins really are innocuous. It's in the context of the industry, media in general, and the stupid "culture war" BS that moves like this become more concerning. I hope it just ends up being just a seasonal summer theme, I really do! But I won't be surprised if a year from now the needle has swung hard toward women in scantily clad outfits dominating the store.

"*sigh* it's not that I'm puritanical, it's just that I'm puritanical because of that stupid culture war BS"

 

[benji]

I think a lot of the conversation over the decades about Lucas redoing things, using CGI and the prequels in general is based around the premise that Lucas wasn't always a hack deliberately trying to recreate the slop serials from his childhood.

People should get that comic adaption of Lucas's original script and see what he wanted to make rather than what the limitations of the real world forced him to do with A New Hope. He was always envisioning a bigger universe, but that bigger universe was always stupid as shit.

[HaughtyFrank]

I also noticed that progressives use diversity to, pardon my expression, also promote more diversity hires. 

I said before that diversity isn’t bad, and I still strongly believe this… but people that care so much about it are often hacks (either whites or PoC). They cannot distinguish between inclusion and tokenism, even if they are PoC.

I was recently reminded about how Mass Effect Andromeda had a NPC that basically went "Hi, I'm Angela but on earth I used to be Steve because I'm trans" (dramatized) and it really showed how no one there actually had interest or skill to write a trans character. The sole goal was to just have one. They quickly patched it after everyone called out how absurd it was.

[NekoFever]

Kind of classist that they only care about white collar jobs being automated.

Always makes me laugh how we’ve been automating away working class jobs for decades. Learn to code, get with the times luddites, wait why are you voting for extremists when they promise to bring your industry back?

Now it’s the end of civilisation when it’s happening in their fields.

[Boredfrom]

> "CGI is the future, you have to accept it"

> proceeds to make Jedi Rocks

At least people can (mostly) discuss the benefits and problems with using CGI. Maybe the big problem is that AI still doesn’t have a “Jurassic Park’s T Rex” moment.

ChatGPT itself is already the "jurassic park's t-rex" moment, it was the top app on all app stores since it was first offered, I just checked on my phone and it's STILL #1

billions of people voluntarily downloading it, they wouldn't choose to download it if they didn't find it useful

I would also say that the extent that AI is doing coding these days is more than enough too, if you've ever programmed anything and tried a real coding AI it's 100% magic

it's not really possible to wow people again in a movie magic sense because AI used competently in film will just be as good as our best CGI already is, it's an elevation in productivity and mass accessibility rather than a jump from bad-looking puppets to amazing CGI

 

My man, you could have stopped with “ChatGPT” and I would have seen your point. ChatGPT is big and people can argue that is a paradigm change. I can see it.

Anyway, crazy frog:

[benji]

Maybe the big problem is that AI still doesn’t have a “Jurassic Park’s T Rex” moment.

Era's mass denial about AI also means they don't see how quickly something like that when it comes around will also become a gamechanger for their own favorite industry overnight:

[Boredfrom]

it's an elevation in productivity and mass accessibility rather than a jump from bad-looking puppets to amazing CGI

I mean, Jurassic Park used both CGI and practical effects.

[NekoFever]

Andy Suckis is a terrible filmmaker.

They’ve banned people for making fun of “ethnic” names before (also remember the attempted cancellation of Girlfriend Reviews), but Andy Serkis committed wrongthink so I guess his Iraqi-Armenian name is fair game.

[benji]

User banned (1 week): Thread derail & antagonizing another user

https://www.resetera.com/threads/official-concept-art-for-%E2%80%98avengers-doomsday%E2%80%99-enter-at-your-own-peril.1574980/page-6#post-157807717

[HaughtyFrank]

User banned (1 week): Thread derail & antagonizing another user

https://www.resetera.com/threads/official-concept-art-for-%E2%80%98avengers-doomsday%E2%80%99-enter-at-your-own-peril.1574980/page-6#post-157807717

Zeo is not okay

[Boredfrom]

Kind of classist that they only care about white collar jobs being automated.

Always makes me laugh how we’ve been automating away working class jobs for decades. Learn to code, get with the times luddites, wait why are you voting for extremists when they promise to bring your industry back?

Now it’s the end of civilisation when it’s happening in their fields.

They also incapable to understand this point if comments about how “miners deserve getting black lung for voting Trump” is anything to go by.

[Potato]

I mean...I'm not surprised at all to see this take from George...but still, from the guy that created the original Star Wars, woof.

George Lucas, the innovator in democratising special effects both practical and digital, is not opposed to something which further democratises special effects?

[Potato]

I completely understand being against AI but I don't really understand where it's inconceivable for them that someone could see opportunities in it.

They hate when other people have opportunities.

[Boredfrom]

I completely understand being against AI but I don't really understand where it's inconceivable for them that someone could see opportunities in it.

They hate when other people have opportunities.

/kappa.

[benji]

I completely understand being against AI but I don't really understand where it's inconceivable for them that someone could see opportunities in it.

They hate when other people have opportunities.

A bunch of the screeds in that one AI thread were essentially this, including anti-hierarchy Nepenthe's, an immense anger at the idea that someone, somewhere, might be able to create passable art without having engaged in the proper licensing process or having been born with the innate ability. They're self-appointed gatekeepers whose purpose is to keep out the rabble from an irrelevant exclusive club.

[Boredfrom]

I completely understand being against AI but I don't really understand where it's inconceivable for them that someone could see opportunities in it.

They hate when other people have opportunities.

A bunch of the screeds in that one AI thread were essentially this, including anti-hierarchy Nepenthe's, an immense anger at the idea that someone, somewhere, might be able to create passable art without having engaged in the proper licensing process or having been born with the innate ability.

“Or effort”.

[benji]

Would you like to use your words to communicate what you're trying to say? So that I don't assume what you're trying to say based on who you're defending, demonstrate its elitist stupidity is exactly the gatekeeping I said and then have you claim you never meant that.

[Greatness Gone]

This has flop stench all over it. I’m curious to see how Ree explains this film’s failure. Will it be racism this time?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xolo-maridueña-to-return-as-blue-beetle-in-james-gunn’s-man-of-tomorrow.1577428/#post-157922956

[HaughtyFrank]

This has flop stench all over it. I’m curious to see how Ree explains this film’s failure. Will it be racism this time?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xolo-maridueña-to-return-as-blue-beetle-in-james-gunn’s-man-of-tomorrow.1577428/#post-157922956

Honestly Blue Beetle kind of fits to Gunn's Superman. Doesn't really defeat the allegation though that Gunn treats Phase 1 as if it was Phase 5

[Boredfrom]

Would you like to use your words to communicate what you're trying to say?

Do you? 

I don’t think you need to born with innate talent to create art. I don’t think that using AI excludes something from being art. I don’t think both ideas exclude one or another. We can agree with that.   

I have an issue with the idea of being an equalizer or democratizing art, mind you. I would admit that there is a lot of AI made stuff that is not slop or have effort put into it. But when people say “democratizing” is generally tech bro talk to justify making shit.

[Boredfrom]

This has flop stench all over it. I’m curious to see how Ree explains this film’s failure. Will it be racism this time?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xolo-maridueña-to-return-as-blue-beetle-in-james-gunn’s-man-of-tomorrow.1577428/#post-157922956

Honestly Blue Beetle kind of fits to Gunn's Superman. Doesn't really defeat the allegation though that Gunn treats Phase 1 as if it was Phase 5

I get it, to him Marvel’s Phase 1 is the normalization of Super Heroes in a cultural sense, rather than making a universe.  Is unnecessary at this point by his logic.

I’m more surprised how many people want Origin stories when we have 10 years of people bitching about Cape Shit Origin Films.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xolo-maridueña-to-return-as-blue-beetle-in-james-gunn’s-man-of-tomorrow.1577428/#post-157922956

They could pull a DCAU and have Wonder Woman coming out into the world as the POV for the film and get her in that way. Batman will be harder.

yeah that'd be a good idea. Sounds like it'll be awhile still before her solo movie, but that wouldn't feel so bad if her debut was before then

The Batman film is literally the next one in the schedule and they fast-tracked Wonder Woman, to presumably take The Authority's slot, with the Supergirl writer when they saw the Supergirl script. Even though the Wonder Woman TV show is nowhere near coming out like most of the TV slate.

Also, why do they think this is hard at all? They've already established there's tons of characters including at least three Earth Green Lanterns* who are running around, just nobody's teamed up yet before Superman and the Justice Gang did in the film. CLEARLY the threat of Brainiac and all this other shit is going to make somebody go "you know, maybe we should team up on some of this stuff" and then they go talk to Batman and Wonder Woman. They don't have to pretend these people have been hiding at all, just that we haven't seen them in action. You know, literally how the MCU did things with half The Avengers cast.

These dudes are so neurotic about canon that their brains fall out.

*SECTOR 2814 IS ONLY SUPPOSED TO HAVE ONE UNLESS THE OTHERS ARE DEADDDDDDDDDDD