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[kaleidoscopium]

edit: jawmunchers chud message already posted above

[TylenolJones]

Can people who "protest" vote truly call themselves allies of minority communities?

We are having an internal conversation about these sorts of threads, so it's been locked in the meantime.

Oh to be a fly on the wall of that conversation. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-people-who-protest-vote-truly-call-themselves-allies-of-minority-communities.784490/#post-114817079

[benji]

Oh, wonder where incelsiorlef is getting this outrage from:

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[benji]

[benji]

Funnier than incelsiorlef's "attempt" at a joke.

[benji]

Can people who "protest" vote truly call themselves allies of minority communities?

We are having an internal conversation about these sorts of threads, so it's been locked in the meantime.

Oh to be a fly on the wall of that conversation. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-people-who-protest-vote-truly-call-themselves-allies-of-minority-communities.784490/#post-114817079

They need to have a conversation about this? How many Muslims on staff are there compared to trans or trans-adjacents?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-marvels-gets-a-b-cinemascore.784094/page-8#post-114818306

Gotta love some terminally online marvel stans(franchise stand in general) co opting language of social activism and social justice to defend corporate IPs.Its tiring seeing it on Twitter, tiktok but I at least assume those are teenagers being cringeworthy.

There are probably one or two instances of right wing critics criticising this film for culture war points. But they way reviewers(genuine ones) and audiences have responded make it quite clear. Marvel screwed up. Pretending otherwise is just inhaling premium grade copium.

 

[Eric Cartman]

Can people who "protest" vote truly call themselves allies of minority communities?

We are having an internal conversation about these sorts of threads, so it's been locked in the meantime.

Oh to be a fly on the wall of that conversation. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-people-who-protest-vote-truly-call-themselves-allies-of-minority-communities.784490/#post-114817079

Can't fucking wait for the era moderation brain trust to solve the inherent issues of a two party system, then ban everyone who disagrees with their conclusions

[Eric Cartman]

"Anyone who states they did not write-in vote for the Nation Of Islam is basically committing a hecking genocide"

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-marvels-gets-a-b-cinemascore.784094/page-8#post-114818306

Gotta love some terminally online marvel stans(franchise stand in general) co opting language of social activism and social justice to defend corporate IPs.

SHOTS FIRED

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-ot3-is-this-canon-lgbtqia-lives-matter.523146/page-120#post-114810704

People are driving me crazy in the Marvels threads.

Let's never forget the this forum cheered and clapped at a black woman directed, female led film doing poorly because it was from a console they didn't like

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-ot3-is-this-canon-lgbtqia-lives-matter.523146/page-120#post-114810944

Why would people applaud a movie because it was related to something they didn't like?

I've never said they should applaud it.

I said that the toxicity regarding cheering and gleefully celebrating it's failure it's toxic and not nearly as comparable to stuff like morbius which starred a known creep. Even in that case there was an element of humor to it all. This is just plain and simple hatred.

They're mocking DaCosta for...liking Final Fantasy AC??

It's essentially movie console wars. And this toxicity will come to bite this forum in the ass.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-ot3-is-this-canon-lgbtqia-lives-matter.523146/page-121#post-114811709

I'm not even against poking fun at the movies that are not great. But like I said, there's an element of affection in the Morbius or Thor 2 memes. That is simply not present in the discourse for this movie and Blue Beetle.

We're witnessing attacks on a young black female director because she said she was inspired by Final Fantasy. Would that happen to a male director nowadays? You didn't see anyone attacking the director of Shazam 2 like this.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-ot3-is-this-canon-lgbtqia-lives-matter.523146/page-121#post-114811871

Unfortunately movies have been console wars since the confluence of Avatar 1/The Dark Knight/early mcu and twitter. Literally with Nolan/auteur director de jour and the "kiddie" options lmfao

Nerd/enthusiast IP discourse is a brain worms farm when it doesn't have guardrails.

It's even earlier. It was started by the whole Harry Potter vs Twilight shit.

Which just like the Scorsese bullshit, was started by the media.

I was young and stupid back in 2007, so I obviously ate it up. But in hindsight that's the moment I felt movies became console wars. You had to pick a team and fight to death online for it

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-ot3-is-this-canon-lgbtqia-lives-matter.523146/page-121#post-114818276

For some reason I got notified that I was threadbanned from the Weekend BO thread but wasn't given a reason lol. I had only one post in that thread and it wasn't marked with any warning or anything at all. Weird.

 

[Uncle]

Just the fear of losing their jobs and careers is preventing a lot of folks from speaking out and is an effective censorship tool utilized in the West, particularly in the US, while preaching about free speech.

Does this person think that not western countries are much better? 

Maybe should research free speech in Muslim countries.

Suddenly censorship and freedom of speech has nothing to do with government power and is just employers and others showing them that there's no freedom from consequences. Weird how the CHUDS were idiots for saying this before and now it is gospel truth when the other side is affected

also, framing this as censorship of your views, when it's kind of just...social contract stuff?

hasn't it been a little taboo for hundreds of years to express support for groups that murder people? or any horrible thing?

"we need to lower the age of consent in the US but fear of losing my job keeps me from being outspoken about it"  

"we should deport all muslims but I'm afraid if I speak up then my muslim coworkers will go to HR and get me fired" 

[Vertigo]

SkinnyIndonesian was still fighting the good fight in those threads. The other MCU shills have given up. But we just got some sad news

For some reason I got notified that I was threadbanned from the Weekend BO thread but wasn't given a reason lol. I had only one post in that thread and it wasn't marked with any warning or anything at all. Weird.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-ot3-is-this-canon-lgbtqia-lives-matter.523146/post-114818276

We probably know why, probably abusing the report button. And his obsession with 'chuds' even the Mods don't want to hear that shit





I do find it cute that Fj0823 is going nowhere near the BO thread Zerovagina would be appalled he was the chosen one. 

Instead, he posts classics like this in the safespace thread

I'm not even against poking fun at the movies that are not great. But like I said, there's an element of affection in the Morbius or Thor 2 memes. That is simply not present in the discourse for this movie and Blue Beetle.

We're witnessing attacks on a young black female director because she said she was inspired by Final Fantasy. Would that happen to a male director nowadays? You didn't see anyone attacking the director of Shazam 2 like this.

Remember all the laughing and piss-taking for DC and Sony movies? It was all good clean fun and in no way crowing and mean-spirited and now the shoe is on the other foot. Weaponising the bogeyman of online chuds is perfectly acceptable and not at all in bad taste and cowardly. Nobody is attacking Nia Dicosta she's a non-factor.  Everyone knows shes another director who is just told to come to set and shout action and cut.

Next thing they'll be calling all those teenage girls who didn't see this women haters.

[Averon]

I was worried about the lack of entertainment with Zeo banned, but SkinnyIndonesian has really been pulling their weight these past couple days. They've been hilariously Baghdad Bobing every Marvel thread in the OT.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-ot3-is-this-canon-lgbtqia-lives-matter.523146/page-120#post-114810704

People are driving me crazy in the Marvels threads.

Let's never forget the this forum cheered and clapped at a black woman directed, female led film doing poorly because it was from a console they didn't like

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-ot3-is-this-canon-lgbtqia-lives-matter.523146/page-120#post-114810944

And this toxicity will come to bite this forum in the ass.

Remember where you were. The walls are closing in.

[Averon]

Fj0823 is cowardly staying in the MCU OT. At least Zeo would be out there on the front-lines throwing hands at the Nazi chuds on ERA besmirching the MCU.

[ComeAgain]

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/wkd-box-office-%E2%80%A2-11-10-12-23-%E2%80%A2-listen-all-yall-its-sabotage-the-marvels-opens-below-50m.784388/page-5#post-114817880

Official Staff Communication

The thread is now unlocked but I ask everyone to stay on topic and stop derailing the thread.
Discussing how certain movies may or may not be doing well is fine. To take that element to point and antagonize one another is not ok.
Let's also knock off discussion of "Chuds" and the like. They do not matter in the context of what's impacting the Box Office for certain films.

Surely they will keep this exact same energy next month if Aquaman 2 underperforms. Surely!

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

I'd like to personally thank Benji for their insightful post on page 551 of this beloved thread.

What? No, not about Palestine. Who cares about them? I'm talking about the more important subject: ZeoVGM's reaction to The Marvels.

You are the best of us, Benji. 

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

There was a way to make this an actual challenging joke...

After the Hamas band name joke, the jumper says ok share it under my old band's name: Ben-Gvir to which the three are also horrified at.

Which would actually be a pretty impactful transgressive joke.

Did PlanetSmasher write this?

the viewers who watch SNL have no fucking clue who Ben-Gvir is. Leave writing jokes to the people who actually get paid for it. No one goes where you work and tells you not to re-tweet unless things excelsiorlef.

[Orange Juice Box]

Dune 2 boycott Nyow!

[kaleidoscopium]

There was a way to make this an actual challenging joke...

After the Hamas band name joke, the jumper says ok share it under my old band's name: Ben-Gvir to which the three are also horrified at.

Which would actually be a pretty impactful transgressive joke.

Did PlanetSmasher write this?

Verified insider replied with:

Your example of doing it right is comedy poison. If that's your example of comedy you have no business judging comedy lol

https://www.resetera.com/threads/this-weeks-snl-digital-sketch-is-bafflingly-terrible.784418/page-2#post-114824201

[ComeAgain]

chubigans was verified no more  

[benji]

I can't believe how many chuds were watching and waiting and lurking on ResetERA.com until they had a chance to pounce on a Black woman's film.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Excuse me? Black girl magic works!

[benji]

Then I still don't see how the joke makes light of the situation in Gaza, especially when it's referencing this real life incident according to you. Like was anyone mad that they canceled that ham bag?

The bag is different because it actually happened and you could see why it happened. Ironically real life had a better construction than written joke here.

I put it up there as specifically shitty because what's happening right now is horrific, and this lazy joke within a suicide sketch is about the extent they'll ever address what's happening. Well, outside of Pete Davidson's excellent cold open which should have been the only time they addressed it, unless they were truly willing to go on deep on all of it.

And I do think putting in the context of a suicide sketch with a punch line of well we saw a man die oh well moving on... within the greater afformentioned context of this is SNL and this is the assuredly the extent of the joke(s) they're going to be willing to tell on it all.

That's not challenging at all. It's just a bad joke.

Directly tying the extremes of the Israeli government as a mirror of Hamas is absolutely a challenging statement for 2023 US late night tv.

The reason it works is Ben-Gvir is legitimately himself a terrorist

Now it doesn't work for tv because no casual knows who Ben-Gvir is

Which brings me back to don't do this, if this is the extent your show is willing to touch on.

Nobody watching SNL will know who Ben-Gvir is, unless everybody watching SNL is active on ResetEra. Outside of Netanyahu, basically no Israeli government official is widely known. Most people are obviously aware of Hamas and knows why having a band named so similarly to them would be a terrible idea, hence the joke.

Sure and that's why SNL is not equipped to make any comment on the issue and thus should say nothing outside of that wonderful Pete Davidson cold open which almost assuredly they had little role in writing

I don't agree. SNL is not really meant to be a critical political commentary show. This isn't Last Week Tonight. They made a Hamas joke (that has the political weight of simply stating Hamas = bad) because it sets up the funny joke "I'm not recommending a song by Hamas!" It's a ridiculous scenario that has a bit of dark comedy. Just because they don't mention anything related to Israel doesn't really mean anything. Don't think too hard about it. Again, this is SNL lol

SNL did 4 years of Trump

They're a political show

If they can't do it right don't do it

An Hamas joke inside a suicide joke with the punchline of who cares that we saw that guy die

Sucks

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

excel.. it's okay to say Hamas is bad. I thought Hamas does not equal Palestinians, but making fun of Hamas now downplays events in Gaza? 

Did we really go from Hamas does not represent all Palestinians to Hamas equals Palestinians in less than a month? 

[Pwnz]

Yeah that's your typical excelsior leaf making epic leaps to be outraged. Must be exhausting for her.

[Boredfrom]

SNL did 4 years of Trump

They're a political show

If they can't do it right don't do it

You know that a lot of people hated those years, even people that hate Trump guts. Trump is a low hanging fruit for many in comedy.

[Orange Juice Box]

Guys, it's a fine joke and I get humorous things and laugh all the time.  Hahaha.  See?


But I'm just concerned that the wrong people (like chuds) will watch this and take away the wrong message.  I'm smart enough to know what the joke is about but what about the general public?  We have to protect them from themselves by limiting their food choices and media.  

Haha.  See, I laughed again and I have fun.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2023-ot-2-tapping-the-sign.768689/page-124#post-114824738

You live on the fucking death star

HE SAID THE THING! HE SAID THE POP CULTURE THING!