Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Snoopy]

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also someone wrote an email directly to MOBA higher-ups highlighting some of the unhinged shit she's said which may have forced B-Dubs to ask her to step down for a while

Is this for real?!!

Some absolute Karen sent them an email then came here looking for approval. We just lost an entire Jeff Marvel season. Now Nep Nep’s been sectioned right when she was about to start her Gaza lectures. Tragic. Absolutely tragic.

[Boredfrom]

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-has-changed-nightcrawlers-origin.789843/

X-Men Origins Blue came out today and reveals that Azazel is NOT the father. Nightcrawler is in fact the son of Mystique and Destiny, with Mystique being his dad thanks to her shape-shifting abilities.

This concept was originally proposed by Chris Claremont but the Comics Code Authority would have never let it fly:

That is someone fetish. Fate/X fans can attest.

In any case, it was well known that was the original intention and the Azazel stuff was also hated because he was a literal demon.

[Uncle]

she would be able to answer who has better orgasms and why

[Boredfrom]

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also someone wrote an email directly to MOBA higher-ups highlighting some of the unhinged shit she's said which may have forced B-Dubs to ask her to step down for a while

Is this for real?!!

Some absolute Karen sent them an email then came here looking for approval. We just lost an entire Jeff Marvel season. Now Nep Nep’s been sectioned right when she was about to start her Gaza lectures. Tragic. Absolutely tragic.

I doubt this. She is hated by most sane posters, so it would not be weird if many already tried to contact MOBA to complain. They seem to be mostly hands free until they get want to incite violence.

Is more likely she really got that mad and decided to quit for a while. This is the same person that tried to get people to donate to her ko-fi after throwing a tantrum after Morrigan got demoted.

[Besticus Maximus]

She got a bollocking, and about time too tbf

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/robert-de-niro-says-his-gotham-awards-speech-was-censored-anti-trump-comments-removed-without-notice.789546/page-2#post-115527066

User Banned (1 Week): Ableist Rhetoric

I personally consider someone being anti-vax an extreme circumstance, considering that that entire worldwide group of people led to millions of deaths to covid, and that's not even considering pre-covid anti-vax.

I kinda don't even though it's a dumb ass take so I'll agree to disagree.

Being an anti vax to me is someone with a smooth brain but he's not on the league of Harvey Weinstein, Cosby, Kevin Spacey or some other Hollywood monster

[Snoopy]

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I doubt this. She is hated by most sane posters, so it would not be weird if many already tried to contact MOBA to complain. They seem to be mostly hands free until they get want to incite violence.

Is more likely she really got that mad and decided to quit for a while. This is the same person that tried to get people to donate to her ko-fi after throwing a tantrum after Morrigan got demoted.

I’d be amazed if anyone at MOBA even bothered to finish reading Karen’s email. I can’t see B.Dubs suddenly growing a spine either. I expect Nep’s lying in some paddock plotting her revenge.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/melissa-barrera-dropped-from-%E2%80%98scream-vii%E2%80%99-after-social-media-posts-amid-israel-hamas-conflict.787563/page-4#post-115249575

User Banned (1 Month): Dismissing concerns of genocide

There is never any mention of the heinous terror attack on October 7th which is strange, almost as if a lot of the world is antisemitic

https://www.resetera.com/threads/melissa-barrera-dropped-from-%E2%80%98scream-vii%E2%80%99-after-social-media-posts-amid-israel-hamas-conflict.787563/page-5#post-115251702

User Banned (2 months): dismissive commentary in a sensitive thread

It's a clear reference to the very old and very common anti-Semitic trope that Jews control the media.

I see. If that's what you took from that message, I don't think we could ever agree. Thanks for replying and confirming though.

User Banned (3 months): antisemitic commentary, relevant prior comments

I'm honestly not sure older Jews and Jewish community leaders like rabbis realize how badly they are losing young people on this stance. Polling indicates 40% of young Jews consider Israel an apartheid state. That's only going to get more pronounced and they will feel isolated from their communities if this continues.

it's such a shame that isreal's actions are causing an actual justification for antisemitism for tons of shitheads

I've seen a lot of beautiful videos that depicted Jewish solidarity for Palestine and the actions of many good people are being drowned out by that apartheid state

[Uncle]

man I wish I had the time to lie in a paddock and plot my revenge

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/worst-video-review.788214/page-3#post-115339293

User Banned (1 week): Dismissive commentary, doubling down in tickets.

Sessler stinks. His blowup of the God of War: Ascension trophy name was a bit hyperbole. Yeah it's big cringe but you literarily get trophies for the sex minigames of past games, it's like he's never played this series before. Game is about an evil protagonist killing thousands upon thousands but we draw a line in a sand with this? Sony Santa Monica changed the trophy's name IIRC.

Speaking of God of War, I don't know if this counts as a review but David Jaffe had multiple videos criticizing Nintendo for level design in Metroid Dread. It was so bad. Think he dropped the entire game because he could not figure out where to shoot the ceiling to progress in the game despite enemies crawling all over the area.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/vgc-embracer-ceo-confirms-timesplitters-studio-faces-closure-before-christmas.789558/#post-115522533

User Banned (1 Month): Misogynistic Slur

Go fuck yourself embracer, you disgusting cunts

(By the way I know I'll be banned for the use of the C-word but I think it's very fitting to these scumbags)

[JoeBoy101]

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man I wish I had the time to lie in a paddock and plot my revenge

I thought this was the Paddock?

EDIT: Damn, top of page. Okay’s here’s your picture relevant to the post.

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[PogiJones]

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-has-changed-nightcrawlers-origin.789843/

X-Men Origins Blue came out today and reveals that Azazel is NOT the father. Nightcrawler is in fact the son of Mystique and Destiny, with Mystique being his dad thanks to her shape-shifting abilities.

This concept was originally proposed by Chris Claremont but the Comics Code Authority would have never let it fly:

That is someone fetish. Fate/X fans can attest.

In any case, it was well known that was the original intention and the Azazel stuff was also hated because he was a literal demon.

The fetish aspect is far, FAR more tolerable than them then using their gross fetish about a fictional shapeshifter as "evidence" to lecture the reader that the sex binary isn't real. A freaking pretend shapeshifter basically looking into the camera and telling us she's real and sex is not. That author convinced me we need to bring lobotomies back.

[PogiJones]

Slayven: "You want prof the binery is a specertrum? Mystique got a woman pregerant. Boom."

[Uncle]

The fetish aspect is far, FAR more tolerable than them then using their gross fetish about a fictional shapeshifter as "evidence" to lecture the reader that the sex binary isn't real. A freaking pretend shapeshifter basically looking into the camera and telling us she's real and sex is not. That author convinced me we need to bring lobotomies back.

I like how it says "genders or sexes or sexualities," to help keep LGB inextricably tied together with the T even though it's a completely different concern

[HaughtyFrank]

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I doubt this. She is hated by most sane posters, so it would not be weird if many already tried to contact MOBA to complain. They seem to be mostly hands free until they get want to incite violence.

Is more likely she really got that mad and decided to quit for a while. This is the same person that tried to get people to donate to her ko-fi after throwing a tantrum after Morrigan got demoted.

I’d be amazed if anyone at MOBA even bothered to finish reading Karen’s email. I can’t see B.Dubs suddenly growing a spine either. I expect Nep’s lying in some paddock plotting her revenge.

I imagine MOBA doesn't give a fuck at all about Restera as long as people aren't posting anything illegal. Maybe they'l care if ad revenue drops but even then I'd see them more interested in adding more/different ads than diving into forum policies

[Hap Shaughnessy]

3 year old thread gets revived and then locked lol. 

Is it thread whining for me to say that if we had a thread dedicated to talking about how hot a female actor is it would get locked?

Considering I just made a thread about how I had a crush on Linda Hamilton in Terminator 1 that was locked, you're not wrong.

What I find hilarious is that thread was incredibly tame compared to this one.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/harrison-ford-being-a-snack.179095/page-3#post-115522812

No passive aggressive mod message YET

User Banned (3 Weeks): Trolling After Being Warned for Creating a Sexist Thread, Inflammatory False Equivalence around Sexism

[Boredfrom]

lol Dude is back and Hamas fan club is not happy. Nola is specially salty.

Which all circles us back to the larger issue I am having with your posts, they are intentionally leaving out vital context (context that you are quick to assure us you are fully aware of with your vast and superior knowledge) , to focus attention on Palestinian failures(and pre-emptively deflect valid responses to those you already know are coming), and in doing so paint an inaccurate picture of the dynamics and agency in play, then using that to shift blame away from Israel and toward actors that have insignificant power in the situation or leaving aside the reasons why certain dynamics exist at all.

People should note that dude actually lives in Israel.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/unity-software-to-cut-3-8-of-staff-in-company-reset.789666/#post-115538511

User banned (permanent): Troll account

MOD EDIT: Trash post deleted. Nothing to see here.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-has-changed-nightcrawlers-origin.789843/

User Banned (1 Month): Use of transphobic and interphobic slur

Futa fans win.

Edit:
For those who are as out of touch as I am:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futanari

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/midnight-on-a-weekend-korean-company-nexon-scrambles-to-post-apologies-in-record-time-to-anti-feminist-incels.788802/page-3#post-115419258

User Banned (1 Month): Inflammatory Generalization; History of the Same

South Korea is so fucked up with their feminism. When the massive Korean stars massive misoginy and abuse case emerge a few years ago and nobody cared and nothing seemed to happen out of it, that's when I realized that the fight over feminism in the country is futile.

[books]

Interphobic? Da fuck is that?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/which-version-of-dio-do-you-prefer-part-1-or-part-3.789819/

Black Sabbath version.

[Uncle]

Interphobic? Da fuck is that?

when you are scared of intersex folx

[Uncle]

bro it was literally one month ago

https://impactethics.ca/2022/10/20/intersex-awareness-day-combating-interphobia/

[jooseloose]

What thread are these from?

The members only Constructive thread. This led to people questioning the cyberpunk ban again.

At this stage the cyberpunk discussion ban just seems weird as hell given how twitter is totally allowed and there are multiple Elon Musk threads. Cyberpunk has positive trans characters in it, so compared to other games and news items it just seems odd to hive it off in its own restricted area whilst much worse things are just fine. I think it was the right call when the game released. But now given how the game actually is maybe it can be relaxed?

CDP never apologised or addressed the concerns so to me, everything should be as it is. Don't see a reason to change things just because the game unfortunately returned to the spotlight.

CDP never apologised or addressed the concerns so to me, everything should be as it is. Don't see a reason to change things just because the game unfortunately returned to the spotlight.

Agreed. I don't think there's much point in reversing the ban. Nothing about the passage of time in this case has served to cancel out the pain and anger that the circumstances around the game caused.

If you have something you'd like to say about it, seems like discussion has blossomed just fine in the OT anyway.

Altus never apologised for the abhorrent transphobia in Persona 3, or any of the other issues in their games, but we'll still have a thread for the P3 Remake

I think what has been done for CP, has been done, and I can't see it being reversed or relaxed. It caused a lot of harm and upset to posters at the time and I think reversing that now will be seen as undermining that, so I think changing things now will cause more issues than leaving it be.

I don't think CDPR will ever apologise because outside of Era I don't think anyone else banned/restricted discussion of the game, and technically neither did Era, we had a OT and negative threads around the shoddy launch of the game were allowed and flourished (in my opinion, this was an error and these should have also been moved/locked/restricted)

Era in the grand scheme of things, isn't a big deal, so they probably have no idea they even have anything to apologise for

Hopefully the industry as a whole took some notes from both CP and the reception of Hogwarts and will improve representation going forward so we won't have huge tentpole AAA games with glaring issues, either within the game or around the marketing etc

I think staff have said the sequel to CP will be allowed to be discussed, same as the Witcher games are allowed, so once that picks up stream I think it will be less of an issue. It will just remain a quirk of the site that all talk of OG CP goes to the OT. It's not perfect, but people will survive

CDP never apologised or addressed the concerns so to me, everything should be as it is. Don't see a reason to change things just because the game unfortunately returned to the spotlight.

Agreed. I don't think there's much point in reversing the ban. Nothing about the passage of time in this case has served to cancel out the pain and anger that the circumstances around the game caused.

If you have something you'd like to say about it, seems like discussion has blossomed just fine in the OT anyway.

Altus never apologised for the abhorrent transphobia in Persona 3, or any of the other issues in their games, but we'll still have a thread for the P3 Remake

Oh, point to me the extended and multiple discussions that took place about banning P3 as compared to CP.

At this stage the cyberpunk discussion ban just seems weird as hell given how twitter is totally allowed and there are multiple Elon Musk threads. Cyberpunk has positive trans characters in it, so compared to other games and news items it just seems odd to hive it off in its own restricted area whilst much worse things are just fine. I think it was the right call when the game released. But now given how the game actually is maybe it can be relaxed?

One of the world's most prominent social media sites and news platforms now headed by the world's richest man who unfortunately has intrinsic ties to the automotive and space industries is totally equivalent to a single video game made by a company who revelled in their transphobia and imbued it into their game. Nebula brain take. Ban Elon Musk threads for all I care, but to act like blocking twitter embeds here is equivalent in feasibility to restricting discussion over a game to a single thread is just stupid.

Which is what that was. The "discussion ban" is actually an OT that has some 36,000 posts of discussion in it; an average of like 33 posts a day since the game released 3 years ago. Seems to have worked well as a middle ground honestly.

Oh, point to me the extended and multiple discussions that took place about banning P3 as compared to CP.

Why does that matter? Also it's now against the rules to argue for something to be banned anyway so even if people wanted to argue that for the remake (assuming they don't change the offending material in the remake) they wouldn't be allowed to

That rule only exists anyway because half the forum lost their minds after the CP ban and started to argue for everything to be banned

It's a terrible idea to let a mob of posters demand what is banned anyway, as the mods have said, they will make those decisions, as they did (rightly) for Hogwarts.

That doesn't change the fact that there are still unbanned games and sites that are probably far more egregious than CP, but as I said, I don't think it's helpful to reverse the CP ban now, as what is done is done

Gonna put the rest behind a spoiler tag because it's getting too big

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So games that are worse than CP you just don't argue for getting banned, you just argue about CP getting banned?

Why does that matter? Also it's now against the rules to argue for something to be banned anyway so even if people wanted to argue that for the remake (assuming they don't change the offending material in the remake) they wouldn't be allowed to

That rule only exists anyway because half the forum lost their minds after the CP ban and started to argue for everything to be banned

It's a terrible idea to let a mob of posters demand what is banned anyway, as the mods have said, they will make those decisions, as they did (rightly) for Hogwarts.

That doesn't change the fact that there are still unbanned games and sites that are probably far more egregious than CP, but as I said, I don't think it's helpful to reverse the CP ban now, as what is done is done

"mob" lol, ok fam.

The fact is that it took a lot of sustained effort from members for both the Cyberpunk limitations and the Hogwarts Legacy ban. It wasn't a standalone approach and there was always a colossal difference in the effort on the part of members when pushing for things that were actually implemented by staff vs. the leagues of people whining that X was banned but Y wasn't when they'd put a total of three sentences together to push for it. You can go prior to the asking for things to be banned being banned and the same was true. It was always the cheapest and laziest form of whine, and more often than not used as a proxy to whine against the actions themselves as opposed to any actual conviction to have another element banned.

As for this:

I think staff have said the sequel to CP will be allowed to be discussed

I missed that? The last I heard in the thread was this:

We are actively discussing the wider Cyberpunk issue and will let you know once we come to a decision.

Idk why it wouldn't be allowed to be discussed though, Cyberpunk 2077 was.
The constant distortion between limiting discussion to a thread and banning discussion gets tedious three years after the fact.

So games that are worse than CP you just don't argue for getting banned, you just argue about CP getting banned?

I defer to the mods, as that is the rule, and the world is complex, you're never going to be able to only ban things that cause harm and allow things that don't, that's an impossible task.

Before demanding things were banned was made against the rules people were asking for the biggest publishers to the smallest YouTubers to be banned. It was derailing threads every day.

Idk why it wouldn't be allowed to be discussed though, Cyberpunk 2077 was.
The constant distortion between limiting discussion to a thread and banning discussion gets tedious three years after the fact.

I was typing on phone and I'm old so I used 'banned' when I meant 'restricted'.

Sounds like you have your finger on the pulse more than me as I thought they'd said only the first game is restricted currently.

It also wasn't restricted to just one thread, as the terrible launch had several massive threads outside the OT that were allowed. These undermined the restriction and as I said, I believe should have been locked

Finally I'd be fine with CP2 also being OT only though if that's what's decided and there is good reason for it, and in both my posts today I've argued CP1 should remain OT only as well

Finally I'd be fine with CP2 also being OT only though if that's what's decided and there is good reason for it, and in both my posts today I've argued CP1 should remain OT only as well

On this we can both agree, on both counts.

I defer to the mods, as that is the rule, and the world is complex, you're never going to be able to only ban things that cause harm and allow things that don't, that's an impossible task.

Before demanding things were banned was made against the rules people were asking for the biggest publishers to the smallest YouTubers to be banned. It was derailing threads every day.

Knowing the history of how discussion of CP2077 got to its current state on this forum, this is at best ignorance, but more like gaslighting.

Can't forget Black Chamber despite how you want.

Think you have your timeline confused because CP was restricted and then we had about 6 months of people asking for other stuff to be banned, citing the CP restriction as a precedent, then the mods got sick of people asking for everything to be banned and added a rule saying they don't want anyone asking for things to be banned

That's one of the reasons why asking for an army of people campaigning for something to be banned probably won't happen for any games in the future, assuming the mods enforce their own rules

Which is why I defer to the mods for banning any future games. CP should have been restricted (my third time stating this today) because it caused users upset and harm and so wasn't conductive to widespread discussion.

I've said all I have to say on this now and the rules are the rules, so I'm sure the mods will update us with regards to any changes to the CP restriction or any future CP2 restrictions in due course

Okay. so like the problematic history of Hogwarts Legacy being the continued talk of many members of ERA over the course of months had nothing to do with the mods making the decision they did?

EDIT: Which brings me back, point to me to a sustained discussion of the problematic aspects of P3R that is comparable to what CP2077 and HL has.

Okay. so like the problematic history of Hogwarts Legacy being the continued talk of many members of ERA over the course of months had nothing to do with the mods making the decision they did?

Do you think I'm a mod and/or mind reader? I have no idea. Era and dozens of other sites and publications didn't cover Hogwarts for obvious reasons. I can't imagine a world where Era wouldn't have banned it considering it's so obvious how harmful supporting JK is. Era and dozens of other publications came to that same conclusion independently

This is in stark contrast to CP where Era was one of the only places to restrict discussion as far as I'm aware, and where it's fine to talk about other CDPR games which also support the same people that made CP

And I'm still fine with Eras stance on CP for reasons I've stated several times now

Do you think I'm a mod and/or mind reader? I have no idea.

Seems like you don't care to know.

Well we can agree to disagree then, you can believe the members of Era got HL banned and the rest of the internet followed suit, and I'll believe that it was banned for the reasons stated here, which will have been the same reasons it was banned by all the publications who didn't cover it

Lol.

wtf? I love oni-link now? Dude used to constantly post in the Constructive thread like he was auditioning to be a mod but now he's one of the few people I've seen actively go against Kyuuji and their band of cunts and come out unscathed by the mods.

[Eric Cartman]

Hopefully the industry as a whole took some notes from both CP and the reception of Hogwarts and will improve representation going forward so we won't have huge tentpole AAA games with glaring issues, either within the game or around the marketing etc

I'm kinda curious how era thinks the reception to Hogwarts went in their substituted reality, because in the one I live in this was a huge fucking selling game thats been shifting units all year long (unlike a lot of AAA 'gone in a month' releases), and had a big backlash against the trans activists for egregiously shitty behaviour like websites tracking people to target who streamed the game, and a bunch of big streamer 'allies' telling them to go fuck off and playing it anyway.

[Eric Cartman]

best part of those posts:

Agreed. I don't think there's much point in reversing the ban. Nothing about the passage of time in this case has served to cancel out the pain and anger that the circumstances around the game caused.

era's trauma surrounding the game is literally just the black chamber debacle, burned them so bad they can't even talk about it

this isnt censorship btw

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-promotional-poster-for-joker-folie-%C3%A0-deux.789954/page-2#post-115569717

Should we hate this movie? I'm out of the loop

After all of the alt-right violence the first movie incited I'm not sure how anybody could support the sequel. I fear it's going to cause team #JokerGang to spontaneously break into song and dance.

 

[Eric Cartman]

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Is this for real?!!

Some absolute Karen sent them an email then came here looking for approval. We just lost an entire Jeff Marvel season. Now Nep Nep’s been sectioned right when she was about to start her Gaza lectures. Tragic. Absolutely tragic.

I doubt this. She is hated by most sane posters, so it would not be weird if many already tried to contact MOBA to complain. They seem to be mostly hands free until they get want to incite violence.

Is more likely she really got that mad and decided to quit for a while. This is the same person that tried to get people to donate to her ko-fi after throwing a tantrum after Morrigan got demoted.

Yeah, I think it was pretty clear from her - in her head mic drop - post in poliera that she thought she could threaten them with a good time would have her begging to return with her amazing takes and solid moderation work