Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Eric Cartman]

*(Mods don't action a single person for reacting to thread title)*

Rando: IF IT WERE A NORMAL MEMBER WITH A WRONG TAKE WE'D BE BANNED INTO OBLIVION BY NOW

Y'all are weirdos sometimes.

this is almost the perfect nep contribution:
- continuing a derail
- insulting the community that she could change for the better if she didn't think they were all stupid
- referring to a day-1 member with thousands of posts as a "rando"

between her and dubs directly telling ppl to fuck off, it's clear that a big chunk of the admins actively despise most of the forum.

which is sad because a (very accurate) comment here awhile back about uzzy being "good people" made me think about why the staff's attitudes are so frustrating, and i think it's because the vast majority of ppl on there are actually pretty ok, i've made some great friends there. it's the reason that this thread and it's predecessor bring up the same short list of posters all the time: most people on there just like being on a gaming forum where you don't get called a slur for saying TLoU sucks. that's why the common refrain is "i just hang out in hangouts/OTs," there's plenty of good conversation there, and not everyone is busy ban-baiting each other into oblivion.

when the ban bot was active, you could see this in action, because the overwhelming majority of bans came from shit on the front page. we joke about the like economy, but i wonder if a like system would actually help Era out? so many groups have left the site that the prolific posters who remain are the ones whose identity is now tied up in Era itself - you have "news aggregate" person, "whip up today's twitter outrage" person, and so on. since there aren't any likes, the only ways to get recognized or feel like you're important to the site are getting quoted/replied to as the OP, or getting ppl banned for disagreeing. likes might work as a release valve for the ppl that really need that validation.

anyways pls like this post thx

they're never going to implement likes, because the mostly normal posters who silently censor themselves over what content they post and what topics they post in would realise that they're not the fringe weirdos with extreme and generally unacceptable opinions; its that whatever moderators that are left all have agendas and play favorites.


or as era would put it, "weaponising likes" when outright mentalism gets even the mildest rebuke and that rebuke gets all the likes (and a ban, lol)

[Greatness Gone]

Was just reading that. Not going to spoil it for anyone, but get ready for some insane "misogyny"-related diatribes from Ree over FFXVI. A really tepid event that wouldn't be out of place in a random episode of Game of Thrones is about to set them all off. Launch of this game is going to provide a lot of content for us to laugh at.

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/variety-%E2%80%98spider-man-across-the-spider-verse%E2%80%99-banned-in-united-arab-emirates-likely-due-to-%E2%80%98protect-trans-lives%E2%80%99-poster.731409/

"Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse" will not be released in the United Arab Emirates after failing to pass the country's censorship requirements, Variety has confirmed. A scene featuring a poster in the background of the frame that depicts the transgender flag and reads "Protect Trans Lives" is said to be one of the concerns that prevented a release from being approved, sources said.

They usually cut out the scenes to be able to release in territories where certain things are banned by censorship laws. In this case $ speaks, so Sony will probably cut the poster and it will end up being released.

Huh, weren't they banning people for saying the poster didn't make Gwen trans just a supporter?

No silly, thats the good kind of censorship, not the bad kind the saudis have

[NekoFever]

It's funny how historical realism only comes in when it's about minority or women and not giant summons beating the shit out of each other.

You all lost your minds when someone made an RPG that had grounded historical accuracy to the point of tedium as its whole USP.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-verge-final-fantasy-xvi-has-a-medieval-approach-to-diversity.692200/page-13#post-107479251

[tweet]https://twitter.com/iuntue/status/1669709416893956098?t=AJE7Uurna2Az7ufM_T1uZQ&s=19[/tweet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-verge-final-fantasy-xvi-has-a-medieval-approach-to-diversity.692200/page-13#post-107480649

More sausage fests then? Having a male only game is boring af. CBT3 seem to have terrible cultural viewpoints.

Lol they are going off itt now

Wouldn't it actually be worse if the armies were super gender equal? Then they'd say that they want to feel authentic when it comes to culture and ethnicity but not when it comes to gender. 

It's almost sad that making a fantasy game that's meant to feel grounded in a medieval setting is something controversial now

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-273#post-107481837

Off to the hugbox to complain about ffxvi some more

[Switters]

Me everytime the dip shit forum mascot meme account say's 'sommit'

[Greatness Gone]

As far as I'm aware, nobody making FFXVI has ever even uttered the words "historical accuracy". Yet Ree brings this up all the time. They're literally making up racist talking points nobody has ever spoken. I think Square knows their anime sword fighting game isn't based on reality; the characters are just a byproduct of aping traditional Euro fantasy which is inherently male dominated/white. 

In fact, the words Yoshi-P used to describe the setting are: "faux-medieval realism." Which isn't even close to "historical accuracy".

[NekoFever]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-273#post-107481837

Off to the hugbox to complain about ffxvi some more

Can’t have oversexualised female characters if you don’t have any female characters

[Eric Cartman]

Wonder why none of them talk about/reference the JK Rowling podcast series... almost as if it invalidates all of their whining...

They (and Pink News et al) did start taking quotes out of context for a couple of episodes, but I think there was some blowback because they stopped reporting on it at all. The one where she said it was a mistake to make a big thing about deplatforming Milo Yiannopoulos was spun as her supporting him.

Her quote:

I thought it was a terrible strategic error. My feeling was, you are giving this man way more power than he deserves by behaving in this way. It made Milo look sexier and edgier than he deserved to look.

I thought it was strategically appalling. Get on that platform and eviscerate his ideas, get on that platform and expose him for the charlatan that he is. You push back hard. You've given him so much power by refusing to talk. In fact, they were serving his purposes because he was able to walk away from that saying. 'Look, they don't dare debate me, this is how dangerous and edgy I am.' And I don't think we want to cast the alt-right in that light.

Their reaction starts here.

I enjoyed the podcast because she basically says they've been making shit up about what she's said and done ever since her only sin was a couple of liked tweets.

The Pink News that had to offer a weasel worded retraction under duress, because they called JKR a liar and then got fact checked by the mainstream press?

[Uncle]

Morrigan's post before she closed it

Don't necrobump old threads with obviously fake information...

The proof was right there

Yep, Morrigan is pro pedo confirmed. Weird how she wasn't banned for that or the discord drama.

hate to burst the bubble but that particular thread ended with someone necrobumping it by several months to say some new dude was the writer based on a tweet about it and the guy was just taking the piss

https://www.resetera.com/threads/psa-about-goodbye-volcano-high-and-its-writer.226357/page-6#post-53545372

[Eric Cartman]

I know comic book deaths don't really mean shit, but they did The Punisher dirty.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/goodbye-volcano-high-wins-game-of-show-at-tribeca-festival-2023.731268/page-2#post-107459607

On rare occasion, a gamer realizes 🍃🍃🍃 not all games are made with ~just you~ in mind🍃🍃🍃

Try telling someone that in the "make women in games dress like prudes" thread.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-brief-overview-of-capcoms-history-of-lgbt-coded-characters.731556/

A whole thread dedicated to the new favorite past time of claiming that a character is lgbt and then getting upset if someone disagrees

[Greatness Gone]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-brief-overview-of-capcoms-history-of-lgbt-coded-characters.731556/

an extremely stupid thread using barely there evidence to assign sexualities to several characters that don't even have one. this is how you get psychos like kyuuji screaming about spiderlady being trans because of her shoe size.

edit: why the fuck am I always late to posting threads

[NekoFever]

Wonder why none of them talk about/reference the JK Rowling podcast series... almost as if it invalidates all of their whining...

They (and Pink News et al) did start taking quotes out of context for a couple of episodes, but I think there was some blowback because they stopped reporting on it at all. The one where she said it was a mistake to make a big thing about deplatforming Milo Yiannopoulos was spun as her supporting him.

Her quote:

I thought it was a terrible strategic error. My feeling was, you are giving this man way more power than he deserves by behaving in this way. It made Milo look sexier and edgier than he deserved to look.

I thought it was strategically appalling. Get on that platform and eviscerate his ideas, get on that platform and expose him for the charlatan that he is. You push back hard. You've given him so much power by refusing to talk. In fact, they were serving his purposes because he was able to walk away from that saying. 'Look, they don't dare debate me, this is how dangerous and edgy I am.' And I don't think we want to cast the alt-right in that light.

Their reaction starts here.

I enjoyed the podcast because she basically says they've been making shit up about what she's said and done ever since her only sin was a couple of liked tweets.

The Pink News that had to offer a weasel worded retraction under duress, because they called JKR a liar and then got fact checked by the mainstream press?

Possibly, or it might be the Pink News that praised her for standing against Milo before she changed her position to supporting genocide.

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-verge-final-fantasy-xvi-has-a-medieval-approach-to-diversity.692200/page-13#post-107479251

[tweet]https://twitter.com/iuntue/status/1669709416893956098?t=AJE7Uurna2Az7ufM_T1uZQ&s=19[/tweet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-verge-final-fantasy-xvi-has-a-medieval-approach-to-diversity.692200/page-13#post-107480649

More sausage fests then? Having a male only game is boring af. CBT3 seem to have terrible cultural viewpoints.

Lol they are going off itt now

That iuntue account is a right winger, be careful when you believe those tweets.

I mean coming from Yoshi-P it’s not exactly hard to believe unfortunately

True, but the person could've added in sexist bullshit for the the hell of it. So for now, best to wait for someone else to check the translation.

This person is a alt-right nutter. I would be careful bout believing that translation just yet.

Edit: Ah, so it's accurate. Well that sucks.

guys, the alt right nutter isn't going to lie about the translation to make you mad

he has one of two mentalities (or both): 1 - "look at the original translation it was so based lol," 2 - "they cucked out on when they translated it, wokeness is ruining our games"

[Eric Cartman]

"Ryu has a gay following, so he must be a gay"

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nickmercs-cod-warzone-bundle-removed-by-activision-following-accusatory-tweet-about-pride-month-up-backed-by-timthetatman-dr-d.727965/page-10#post-107434260

User Banned (Permanent): Concern trolling and alt-right dogwhistling across multiple posts with regard to transphobia

I just don't understand this instance. I'm straight and I had an uncle, who unfortunatelly passed away a few years ago, that was gay. I grew up with him, he was such a lovely and caring person, I knew he was gay and what being gay meant from my earliest memories as a person. That didn't make me gay, I haven't been "influenced" by him in any way. I just don't get what these people are so afraid of....

I think it's more on the topic of drag shows at school and stuff like that, not actual engagement with gay people.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/goodbye-volcano-high-wins-game-of-show-at-tribeca-festival-2023.731268/page-2#post-107459607

On rare occasion, a gamer realizes 🍃🍃🍃 not all games are made with ~just you~ in mind🍃🍃🍃

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-persona-3-reload-wont-include-content-from-fes-or-portable-including-the-female-protagonist.728880/page-6#post-107162361

User Banned (Permanent): Troll Account

I mean, this is the studio that suggested that girls don't know what it's like to move to the city or some dumb shit. Between this and how they treat gay characters and women, I think I'm being kind.

Something tells me this series/company may not be for you dude. And I don't meant that in a smart ass or disrespectful way so please don't take it as so.

 

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nickmercs-cod-warzone-bundle-removed-by-activision-following-accusatory-tweet-about-pride-month-up-backed-by-timthetatman-dr-d.727965/page-10#post-107434260

User Banned (Permanent): Concern trolling and alt-right dogwhistling across multiple posts with regard to transphobia

I just don't understand this instance. I'm straight and I had an uncle, who unfortunatelly passed away a few years ago, that was gay. I grew up with him, he was such a lovely and caring person, I knew he was gay and what being gay meant from my earliest memories as a person. That didn't make me gay, I haven't been "influenced" by him in any way. I just don't get what these people are so afraid of....

I think it's more on the topic of drag shows at school and stuff like that, not actual engagement with gay people.

What's funny is that I'm pretty sure there's truth to both of this. There's homophobes who would want any gay person to disappear and never ever interact with kids and then there's people who see drag shows that specifically target kids or sex education books that seem a bit extreme for early education. Both of those then mix at those protests and suddenly there's no middleground anymore. Either you are for it or you're a homophobe.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-78#post-107475867

And yet if anybody will dare to report on it her lawyers will go down on them with the fury of a thousand armies and the person will write a frightened apology.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-273#post-107481837

Off to the hugbox to complain about ffxvi some more

Can’t have oversexualised female characters if you don’t have any female characters 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-273#post-107482737
Nista

I was already a bit on edge due to the violence in the demo, but if the spoilers pan out it’s going to be a huge disappointment.

Sad to see the FF series become even more of a dudebro fiesta these days to chase the global market.

Linkark07

This is the main reason I skipped XV. Wasn't interested in XVI, but it looks this will be another easy skip when it launches on PC.

[Greatness Gone]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-brief-overview-of-capcoms-history-of-lgbt-coded-characters.731556/

A whole thread dedicated to the new favorite past time of claiming that a character is lgbt and then getting upset if someone disagrees

Jesus christ 

To Expand on Marisa

Considering she's also open to a relationship with the player, who can be non-binary, she might be pan.

Can we please stop with the "bi people don't date non-binary people"? It's really shitty.

It's really complicated, the differences between bi and pan are still being vastly discussed within the LGBTQ+ community, but there's a lot of misconceptions that paint being bi as basically being transphobic to some extent and as a person who identifies as bi I don't this misconceptions being propagated. What we know about Marisa is that indeed she likes strong people, regardless of gender and also she is polyamorous. From what I know from doing some research is that being Pan is more akin to a mindset, in case is those who reject outright the concept of gender and gender attractions, but I feel like this also overlaps with the majority of bi people so...  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  It's complicatad.

[books]

These fucking virgins.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-273#post-107481837

Off to the hugbox to complain about ffxvi some more

Can’t have oversexualised female characters if you don’t have any female characters 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-273#post-107482737
Nista

I was already a bit on edge due to the violence in the demo, but if the spoilers pan out it’s going to be a huge disappointment.

Sad to see the FF series become even more of a dudebro fiesta these days to chase the global market.

Linkark07

This is the main reason I skipped XV. Wasn't interested in XVI, but it looks this will be another easy skip when it launches on PC.

Only on Resetera would this K-pop band looking group be considered dudebro



Also...

According to NHK, the most popular Final Fantasy games among women are:

1. Final Fantasy XV – 71.9%
   
2. Final Fantasy IX – 60%
   
3. Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII – 53.9%
   
4. Final Fantasy VII – 53.2%
   
5. Final Fantasy XIV – 49.2%

https://www.fanbyte.com/games/news/nhk-poll-reveals-the-most-popular-final-fantasy-games-among-women/

[Greatness Gone]

based female gamers respecting FFIX

[Taco Bell Tower]

Despite their claims they don't give a crap what women think.  They're just mansplaining.

[kaleidoscopium]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bud-light-is-no-longer-the-no-1-beer-in-america-first-time-in-over-20-years.731169/page-5#post-107487906

What’s most interesting is all the others went up at Bud Lights expense. It’s 100% the boycott(from the right and now from the left as well) at play here.

Can't believe all this came from a supportive Instagram post. Sigh.

We can dismiss it as "Bud Light sucks anyway lol" but this sends a powerful message to other businesses.

Slowly realizing their positions aren't in the majority.

Modelo is my go to beer when I don’t have access to craft beers around me.

Love it.

Uh oh, transphobes have invaded resetera again

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-verge-final-fantasy-xvi-has-a-medieval-approach-to-diversity.692200/page-13#post-107480649
PolygonalDude

More sausage fests then? Having a male only game is boring af. CBT3 seem to have terrible cultural viewpoints.