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(12-21-2023, 11:35 PM)FEUER FREI. wrote: you know with how much the transes bitch and whine that theres so many transphobes on reee and internet, interesting how there is no trans forum, why none of them have ever fucked off to a trans forum with their own community that is private and can ban as they please

i know why its because they love the victim complex, suiciding baiting + donations and attention. that’s why these transes hang around

grow some fucking balls b-dumbs, they’re manipulating and destroying your site. what relevance is reee any more any way than the odd first source for a leak? you even have some people now wanting leaks banned l o l

If he were to ban them, then all of the trans fetishists who would like to fuck a chick with a dick would rebel
(12-21-2023, 09:28 PM)benji wrote:
(12-21-2023, 01:13 PM)kaleidoscopium wrote:
MazeHaze wrote:Posts about how awesome the special is, interspersed with posts about how transphobic south park is reminds me of when there's a thread for a game and the creator is revealed to be horrible, and people pop into the thread to say "looks great day one!" like they are making some anti cancel culture point.
(12-21-2023, 01:34 PM)NekoFever wrote:
Quote:The insomniac hack really brings out the true colours of gaming journalists seeking some clout
Nobody can just post stuff anymore, it's always a SECRET AGENDA at work by the chuds!

This is not projection btw.

(12-21-2023, 08:02 PM)AldusMoneyPenny wrote:
PlanetSmasher wrote:Yeah. The whole internet has become so aggressively corporatized and ad-heavy that it's pushing everyone away. It's not zoomers' fault, it's the Gen-Xers who have started to settle into corporate leadership roles as the boomers fade out.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-year-millennials-aged-out-of-the-internet.797886/post-116652702
What in the fuck is he talking about? He's been running ad blockers so long he thinks a pristine internet wasn't like two decades ago. And what does any of this have to do with nonsense generational categories? Oh, people want their businesses to keep operating rather than going under? Maybe they should fire the idiot who watches multi-hour YouTube horseshit.

This whole column is based on nonsense premises in the first place:
Quote:Something is changing about the internet, and I am not the only person to have noticed. Everywhere I turned online this year, someone was mourning: Amazon is “making itself worse” (as New York magazine moaned); Google Search is a “bloated and overmonetized” tragedy (as The Atlantic lamented); “social media is doomed to die,” (as the tech news website The Verge proclaimed); even TikTok is becoming “enjunkified” (to bowdlerize an inventive coinage of the sci-fi writer Cory Doctorow, republished in Wired). But the main complaint I have heard is was put best, and most bluntly, in The New Yorker: “The Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore.”

It’s indisputable that we are living through a transitional period in the short history of the internet.

...

According to the consumer research firm GWI, millennials’ screen time has been on a steady decline for years. Only 42 percent of 30- to 49-year-olds say they’re online “almost constantly,” compared to 49 percent of 18- to 29-year-olds. We’re no longer the earliest adopters, even: 18- to 29-year-olds are more likely to have used ChatGPT than 30- to 49-year-olds — though maybe only because we’re no longer being assigned homework.

These stats confirm what a brief survey of popular posts on TikTok or Instagram or X will already tell you: The heaviest users and most engaged American audience on the internet are no longer millennials but our successors in Generation Z. If the internet is no longer “fun” for millennials, it may simply be because it’s not our internet anymore. It belongs to zoomers now.

...

And yet zoomers — and the adolescents in Generation Alpha nipping at their generational heels — still seem to be having plenty of fun online. Even if I find it all inscrutable and a bit irritating, the creative expression and exuberant sociality that made the internet so “fun” to me a decade ago are booming among 20- somethings on TikTok, Instagram, Discord, Twitch and even X. “Skibidi Toilet,” “Fanum tax,” “the rizzler”: I won’t debase myself by pretending to know what these memes are, or what their appeal is, but I know that zoomers seem to love them. Or, at any rate, I can verify that they love using them to confuse and alienate middle-aged millennials like myself.
This is just aging.

The internet never belonged to you or any other generation and still doesn't you fucking narcissist. The handful of places you hang out aren't the internet and never have been. Get over yourself.

Of course ResetERA.com's narcissists are eating the drivel up since it confirms their ignorant biases:
Quote:I don't think it's just that though. I think that we can blame a good chunk of it on corporate greed. The internet is becoming worse and worse because every corporation that operates on it is looking to maximize profits and have infinite growth, and unfortunately that comes at the cost of making things deliberately more restrictive, less convenient, ad-riddled, algorithm-tailored. There's a reason why your Facebook Events page only shows your next 3 events on the front page, accompanied with promoted events below it, making you go to extra hoops to see all your upcoming events, and it's not Gen Z, it's profits.
Quote:The internet sucks now, but it's not because of Gen Z. It's because everything has been condensed down into a handful of apps and social media spaces, all owned and controlled by corporations that either want to sell you something or sell your data.
Quote:Nah, the internet is worse than it used to be and the kids don't know how much better it could be because they can't imagine things being different. The water is getting hotter but not everyone is noticing
Quote:Yeah the problem with the internet is it's now controlled by essentialy 3-4 corporations who own every single major website and control everything.
Quote:The internet is bad because every inch in every corner has been commidified.
Quote:And thats the reality. there are like 5 websites now. All the different websites have been absorbed or killed by corps and the web is a more sterile and boring place with less unique voices because of it. Its only going to get worse with ai articles and art becoming used more and more.
Quote:Nah, it's the consolidation bit. The internet feels closer to a bit like when ClearChannel bought like every radio station.

There are still pockets here and there, but when your choices are everything being paywalls or riddled with ads to an absurd degree and everyone's chasing every last nickel and dime with SIO optimization, it's degraded a lot.
Quote:Yeah, there's an element of this, sure. But it's not the full story. The internet changed because it was tamed by corporations and monetized to hell. As the population of internet users expanded to "just about everyone" they all filtered into the same handful of websites/apps because those were the ones with the money to dominate.

Now that being said, yes, a lot of the things I liked about the internet stopped being popular and things I don't care for as much took over. Unironically one of the reasons I am on this forum, it's one of closest thing around to the internet I remember that isn't also filled with bigots.
Fucking morons who check only the same five things while deliberately siloing themselves from everything else and whine about how there's only those five things. "It must be someone else's fault!"

Not to mention the irony of them spending the entirety of their lives on a corporate-owned, ad-ridden website with nearly no Gen-Z folks on it
https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2023-ot-2-tapping-the-sign.768689/post-116662674 wrote:I neve expected Fetterman to be that progressive. But I think even as a centrist, you can be a zionist without supporting the killing of 20,000 civilians in 2 months. This is beyond the politics, it's just empathy.
Quote:
Quote:Oh well that settles that then!

*refuses to look up his support for the Israeli military killing those kids in the first place*
Quote:Please read the claims made by post I responded to.
Quote:Him saying he values the lives of Palestinians doesn't change the fact that he supports the country that killed at least 20,000 of them and destroyed their neighborhoods. It's lip service. That claim still stands.
Quote:The claim is that he is a zionist who lacks empathy. He does not lack empathy. He chooses to support Israel. What, in your mind threads the needle of supporting Israel as a zionist and having empathy?
Quote:In the context of this war, when so much destruction has already been done, if you do not support a ceasefire, which Fetterman currently does not, it stands to reason that he does not feel like enough has been destroyed to sway his opinion on the factor. Supporting Israel, as I said, is a bog-standard position, but it does make things questionable when Israel is committing various atrocities and it seemingly doesn't persuade Fetterman to oppose Israel's aggression. Him saying he 'values' Palestinians means jack shit when he's happily signing off on Israel's actions in Gaza. It's simple common sense at that point to me. What is your limit in supporting a country's military response to an attack? That question alone forces you to think about how much can you tolerate in the context of war. If you think there's no limits, then I'm sorry but that's a bit of a problem.
Quote:The original claim was that it's acceptable to be a zionist, just not one who lacks empathy. So in your mind there is no way to support Israel against Hamas without lacking empathy. You and the other post disagree. My goal is not to convince you to change your position, only to point out that that Fetterman has expressed empathy (in my definition, not yours) and the desire to reduce civilian casualties. If "empathy" in this context to you only means ceasefire, then we have different definitions and I accept that.
Quote:I very clearly said there **should be limits** to what you support. You can be a moral person and support Israel, but you should also recognize that Israel's militaristic response has gone beyond what many would consider reasonable. This military campaign should make moral people feel uncomfortable, whether they support Israel or not. I don't care if you call yourself a Zionist or not. Whether or not that means ceasefire to you is an argument for another day.
Good talk.
This 20,000 deaths figure really irks me. The number is being reported by Hamas health ministry which also tried to tell us that hundreds were killed in a hospital by an Israeli airstrike that was actually a misfired missile from their own side and actually landed in a carpark and didn't destroy shit in the hospital.

Like, come on journalists, do your job with a little bit of self-respect and ethics.
Time for some expert wisdom:
Nepenthe, https://www.resetera.com/threads/educate-an-old-man.795900/post-116393349 wrote:It should first and foremost be established the end game for leftist politics is a world that runs on equality, sustainability, justice, and reparations. That means an end to white supremacy, settler colonialism, capitalism, and the bigotries these systems inevitably entrench like racism, queerphobia, and misogyny. There is no real timetable for these things, despite the fact that these goals are actually way past due.

Where the removal of, say, confederate statues fits into the framework is obvious: monuments are not educational tools nor historical preservation (most confederate statues put up today were erected in the 40s and 70s; clearly they are not time capsules of the 1800s). They're just that: monuments. They glorify whatever it is they're idolizing. Idolatry of the confederacy is white supremacy. If you are serious about a world where white supremacy ceases to exist, the statues have to come down as a basic principle of that belief.

Something like this has little to nothing to do with historical analysis of older works of entertainment. Some shit ages, but as I said in the Christmas song thread earlier, some shit was actually always bad to begin with, and the fact that you may have enjoyed these things doesn't actually refute any particular negative analysis; it just means you weren't aware. (It also has nothing necessarily to do with your quality as a human being.) However, calling a movie or a song shitty on the basis of its politics is also not a call for its removal or censorship.

Indeed, I'm not sure why you're the one bringing concerns of censorship to a group of liberals and leftists when the fact is conservatives are the ones trying to (and actually succeeding in) ban everything and anything with a Black person or a gay person in it. You should be on Reddit asking why the fuck Moms of Liberty does half the shit they do.
Nepenthe wrote:Media consumption isn't really meaningful praxis most of the time. Merely liking something isn't a statement one way or another, unless of course the thing is so genuinely bigoted that you have to buy in to the bigotry to actually enjoy it. Like, no one is looking at you to apologize for merely liking Harry Potter or Se7en when issues with prominent persons involved in these properties are brought up, because you're not the one preying on teenagers or using money to entrench transphobia. Don't make these things about yourself.
Nepenthe wrote:
Quote:The concerted war on academia and culture everywhere in the world is waged by right wing motherfuckers.
This right here.

If you're concerned about censorship, your fight is with the right, not with the left. Having to contend with heated discussions about media analysis and immoral authors is the minimum of conflict you're going to be facing if you're truly interested in learning about left-wing politics. It only gets harder from here.
Nepenthe wrote:
Quote:So understanding the fundamental differences between left/right is going to be good for me moving forward.
Easiest way to understand the left and right paradigm is to note this basic rule of thumb: The left is usually for the democratization of power, and the right is usually for concentrating power within a hierarchy. The etymology of the terms comes from France, where the left wanted to abolish the monarchy, and the right wanted to keep it. That's an easy generalization to use to navigate bullshit. If you think power should be distributed among all, you're on the left. If you think power should be in the hands of a few, you're on the right.

Nepenthe, https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-gay-republican-heckled-with-slurs-at-maga-event.797325/post-116593758 wrote:
Royalan wrote:Shit like this is exactly why I never had time for that one Black dude who reminds us yearly he's friend's with the KKK.
I'm glad it seems like we've finally moved past that nonsense on here.

"You have to empathize with people who hate you. He's doing more than you are in fighting racism!"

Like actually fuck off.
Nepenthe wrote:You have to remember that a far higher proportion of Black people were Republicans around that time period in the 60s because the party had historically been the socially progressive party. Transitions don't happen immediately. Also of note is the fact that he was there to fight Barry Goldwater, one of the originators of the Southern Strategy. Like...he didn't deserve what happened to him (although, to be fair, no Black person deserves to be a victim of racist abuse, and I hope our humanity to you all is not contingent upon how we vote.)

Like, I'm not sure why you think a likely Black leftist trying to fight racism is the fucking same as a Black grifter in 2023 who knows what Republicans stand for. =/
Nepenthe wrote:
Quote:Well I did say it "reminds me" of the incident. Not that it was the "fucking same." The white political wonks of the Republican party continue to be total shit to their minority members and it seems to at least have gone on since the 60s.
Again, I'm not sure why it reminded you when the historical context between that man and the moron this thread is about is so vastly different. Like, of course Republicans have always treated Black people badly. They're racists. Racists for centuries have treated Black folks like shit. 🤷🏿‍♀️
Nepenthe wrote:I think part of the confusion on how a minority could be a Republican- beyond the fact that the whole thing is an obvious grift for easy money- is that people seem to think that being a minority magically grants you access to more egalitarian trains of thought, that because you suffer under oppression then you must be more attuned to left-leaning beliefs.

The number of openly proud capitalists of all races, genders, orientations, and religions still walking around poor as dirt and getting openly fucked over through wage theft should prove to you that isn't the case.

The way I see it, underneath identity politics, there's a generalized spectrum of political thought wherein you believe in more democratic means of governance or more hierarchical means of governance. Individual beliefs can fall along the spectrum, but in general as a person your aggregate politics place you as either more democratic or more hierarchical. If you are an American however, you're forcibly inundated from birth within hierarchical thinking; social mobility, hustling and grinding, "The American Dream," and all that bullshit. You exist in a river of meritocratic, Manifest Destiny, protagonist syndrome bullshit, and it takes a tendency towards empathetic thinking, education, and perhaps luck to start swimming upstream.

Subsequently this completely-arbitrary belief that there is a natural hierarchy, and that you have full control over your place within it, inevitably means you are prone to looking down on those below you. Without anything in the way of knowledge for the historical and social factors that sustain oppression, it is exceedingly easy to walk away thinking that those lower on the ladder than you have a moral or character deficit.

Even more so, it can be understandable for some people in minority groups to have these beliefs clash with the obvious and open nature of the reality of existing in this country as a minority. The idea that there is fuck all you can do to fully gain access to the club simply because how you were born can be just as terrifying for some as it can be liberating for others. I've had my fill of arguing with straight Black men thoughout my life about this to glean that it is a deep insecurity coming from the contradiction.

But honestly? Sometimes? Some people just legitimately believe in hierarchical thinking. No matter how fucked over they get in the process, they just have a fundamental difference in basic assumptions to you and I. And there's nothing much you can do about that other than accept that, yes, there's 8 billion people on this planet and counting and not all of them are gonna think exactly the same as other individuals within their various groups. Being aghast about that, the fact that a Black person could not fall in line, is both honestly kind of a waste of time and a little bit shiesty and side-eye worthy.

Nepenthe, https://www.resetera.com/threads/la-times-column-%E2%80%9Chow-the-retail-lobby-sold-a-45-billion-whopper-about-organized-shoplifting%E2%80%9D.797364/post-116595294 wrote:
Quote:Corpos probably making this bullshit up to lobby for more conservative/"tough on crime" politicians and policies to get passed and elected.

The quickness with which so many people here just swallowed up what was effectively no different than the "welfare queen" anecdotes of the 80s would be amusing if it weren't so depressing.
It's not really all that surprising. One of the few common threads between the American right and left is that they fucking hate the poor, and they value property over people (although the threshold for liberals to start turning on their human rights principles is admittedly higher).

I'm waiting for the usual suspects to be suspiciously absent from this thread, and to bring up some more bullshit about the California homeless or whatever the fuck like next week.
Nepenthe wrote:
Quote:I can't believe this has to be said but the people at fault here are the NRF not "liberals" or "Democrats" lol
If you fell for the grift from billion-dollar corporations that there were "roving organized gangs" stealing so much that stores were closing down left and right, you're a dork who deserves to be called out. Doubly so if you used these lies to advocate for increased policing.

Nepenthe, https://www.resetera.com/threads/750-a-month-was-given-to-homeless-people-in-california-what-they-spent-it-on-is-more-evidence-that-universal-basic-income-works.797427/post-116604861 wrote:
Quote:The problem with UBI is that I find it difficult to be sustainable in the long run and at large-scale (aka, for everyone), especially when we're dealing with an ageing population which will be a huge issue in the future regarding retirement (although in US it is private?).
The sheer amount of money, land, and resources that flow throughout the United States is such that there's no physical reason why everyone cannot be housed, fed, and maintain a decent income to live a good life. It's not a matter of sustainability. It's a matter of rich folks don't want to do shit for the poor, and will spend egregious amounts of efforts trying to convince the poor that there's that nothing can be done either.

Nepenthe doesn't value property over people, that's why she wants a single monopoly hierarchy of rich cops to seize all property and distribute it if they feel like it while imprisoning everyone else in slavery. The part where nobody (not even members of the elite who want to keep their privilege) is allowed to have any say that deviates from the hierarchy is the part that makes it democratic rather than right-wing.
Teach me all about democracy and unjust hierarchies, web-forum that's afraid to allow poll threads!
Nep sounds like the black power dude with the white wife in I'm Gonna Get U Sucka.
Ackshually it's Don't Be a Menace.

Anime Expert
(12-21-2023, 10:37 PM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/substack-says-it-will-not-remove-or-demonetize-nazi-content.797949/

Orayn wrote:We don't approve of Nazis, we just refuse to do anything to stop them from spreading their propaganda while we keep profiting off of them.
You mean like Morrigan did?

Morrigan was running a mutually beneficial non profit commune of alternative lifestyle choices ackshually.
(12-22-2023, 01:17 AM)MJBarret wrote: Teach me all about democracy and unjust hierarchies, web-forum that's afraid to allow poll threads!
Actually, it's a just democracy where your ability to participate is tied to your goodness as a person. ufup
Due to a patent infringement, you can no longer buy Apple Watch 9 and Ultra 2 from Apple in US

Quote:Holy crap, and i legit just got my Ultra 2 watch last week. Talk about close timing.

Stay safe. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/due-to-a-patent-infringement-you-can-no-longer-buy-apple-watch-9-and-ultra-2-from-apple-in-us.797994/?post=116667855#post-116667855
Down with capitalism! As soon as get the latest Apple tech
https://www.resetera.com/threads/south-parks-new-special-not-suitable-for-children-is-out-on-paramount.797415/page-4?post=116660847#post-116660847
Quote:One of the best specials they've made. Not suitable for children is an apt description lol
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Dead man walking  Thank you for your service!
(12-22-2023, 12:57 AM)Potato wrote: This 20,000 deaths figure really irks me. The number is being reported by Hamas health ministry which also tried to tell us that hundreds were killed in a hospital by an Israeli airstrike that was actually a misfired missile from their own side and actually landed in a carpark and didn't destroy shit in the hospital.

Like, come on journalists, do your job with a little bit of self-respect and ethics.

This right here. Time and again Hamas has been shown to blatantly lie about casualties and numbers (70% of deaths and injured are women and children, riiiiiight), yet the press happily gobbles it all done and asks for more all over their faces. Not even the slightest bit of verification.
Folks don't care about facts. It's about feelings; especially feelings that you're making a difference by screeching on the internet.

Eta- it's absolutely hilarious that the crazy posters don't know they've been blocked by pretty much everyone who wants to stay unbanned leading to those hilarious opposite posts back to back.

Eta2- who's a loser that has 3 hours to kill to watch a in depth deep dive into South Park Transphobia? Other than torture black sites, nobody got the time.

Eta3- "verified" developer final flame says they like it?! Big mistake.
Quote:Not to be reductionist, but why should I care what John Fetterman's Israel-Palestine position is? He's a Congressman. Congress abdicated any responsibility for U.S. foreign policy in the 1970's, and the U.S. national security state has been on autopilot for decades before then even. As for who does or doesn't allegedly have empathy, who gives a shit frankly? If you don't support a cessation of hostilities that's flattening hundreds of children beneath rubble, who gives a shit how moral you think you are? The outcome you support is monstrous. The point is moot anyway because the only American actor that really has agency in this matter is the chief executive. All else is yelling into the void, this post included.

John Fetterman served his purpose, which was not being Republican in a swing state. The dude could literally be a pile of rocks with a sweatshirt on that votes present and it's still a net positive compared to the alternative.

Dead

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2023-ot-2-tapping-the-sign.768689/page-188?post=116667714#post-116667714
(12-22-2023, 02:18 AM)JoeBoy101 wrote: This right here. Time and again Hamas has been shown to blatantly lie about casualties and numbers (70% of deaths and injured are women and children, riiiiiight), yet the press happily gobbles it all done and asks for more all over their faces. Not even the slightest bit of verification.
Don't dismiss the concerns of the marginalized when they speak their truth, fascist. How do you expect the oppressed to react when Zionists are settler colonizing their mental health and they're all out of spoons? You want them to have to emotionally labor to find out "accurate" and "objective" casualty figures rather than report the genocide? Categorization is one of the steps of genocide and you want them to do it to themselves? I'm so tired.
Quote:Yep. "But its hilarious"

Why should anyone who cares give a shit

Pai pai master getting really close to getting the gravity and seriousness of this fluid genocide.
I don't know, why should anyone give a shit about your complaints?
Ima kill myself if you dont!
gforguava threadbanned but not the blatant trolling attempt by ElectricBlanketFire? When will B-Dub's finally send TransEra out to the country side? His cultural revolution is over.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-dceu-is-dead-bury-it-consider-it-mercy-what-are-your-overall-thoughts-on-the-universe.797961/

Chud check: No mentions of "CHUD"

???

Why is it okay if DC fails but not Marvel?
Where are the alt right chuds?!?! What are they planning?
Spoiler:  (click to show)
Preordering tickets to The Joker 2 and they be won't shooting anyone again.
Quote:The end of Justice League TSC was awesome.

I think of it more as a Man of Steel trilogy under the foil of a bigger universe and that works for me.
Quote:It was dead the moment they decided to build it around Snyder. His movies just weren't something you could spin into an ongoing cinematic universe.
Quote:I reject the notion that the DCEU was ever alive/a real plan that WB/DC actually took seriously. In the amount of time it took Marvel to start and close its first 23-movie saga DC put out 1 solo Superman movie and 0 solo Batman movies.
Quote:Personally, I feel like they just have to just stop trying to make a connected universe. From the get, WB/DC should of just went the route of finding great directors and make great stories with these characters. No need to worry about setting shit up and connecting one movie into another.
That's what it was supposed to be, it wasn't supposed to be an ongoing cinematic universe. lol

Quote:You can't make a DC universe with dark Superman as a foundation
Quote:I knew it was all fucked the second they had Clark break Zack's neck and I was right.

"THIS AIN'T YOUR DADDY'S SUPERMAN!"
Quote:They never should have gone with Snyder as creative head. He loves the source material but does not understand it, and is only focussed on what he believes are badass visuals rather than telling a story, and thinks everything being dark is inherently interesting.
Quote:I will never understand why they gave superman to Zaddy rather than batman.
Quote:DCEU had the best Batman design and action in BvS. Apart from the killing and the weird hardon for branding people and killing Superman that Batman could have been amazing.
Quote:Worst thing to happen to superheroes since One More Day. An absolute disaster that wasn't worth the couple of decent movies that could have been done better.

James Gunn would have to try really really hard to make a worse Superman movie, so he can only go up from there.

But boy would it be nice to get a Superman movie that was actually great, inspiring and not a piece of shit.
Quote:Ben Affleck wasn't that great a Batman. An okay Bruce Wayne, but his Batman was too rage-fueled
It amazes me how much they're still getting it backwards and missing the point. (And forgetting that Nolan was asked to do Superman.)

Bengraven wrote:Never cared for it. Something immediately turned me off of it. I loved the Superman films of the 70s and 80s, I loved the first three Batman movies and the Dark Knight Trilogy. I grew up on DC cartoons like Super Friends and Batman: TAS. I read a ton of the comics.

But there was something kind of off about Man of Steel. I never could put my finger on it. I didn't like the way it started, with Superman on the run and Lois finding out his identity, etc. I skipped it, especially when the controversy over him killing seemed to dominate discourse, moreso than whether it was good or not. Being a Kevin Smith fan, I was sick of Affleck by the time we got to Dogma and I never watched any of his non-Smith movies, so him as Batman was a "good on you but disappointing" feeling. Then, again, hearing the discourse about how bad it was, it soured my already uninterested opinions. I eventually watched both movies and I could not finish either of them.
Wut

Quote:Not to mention audiences didn't connect with Man of Steel or BvS, yet they kept chugging along.
These were two of the most financially successful films ever for either hero. And they kept "chugging along" by panic reacting to it and changing everything while trying to push out the guy they hired while being so desperate for the MCU they literally brought in the guy who did Avengers. Dead

Mekanos wrote:Now, after MOS underperformed at the box office, WB should have said "Snyder, thank you for your hard work, but we are moving in a different direction." But then they doubled down and gave him the keys to the kingdom which cemented this universe was doomed. One of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen a movie studio make, and that's saying something.
Man of Steel is the most successful film to star Superman after the very first one until BvS. They gave him the "keys to the kingdom" when Nolan hired him.

Quote:Colin Farrell was fantastic as Penguin, but boy do I have no interest in watching a Penguin-only series. Fucking stop with this shit.
This isn't even part of the DCEU. lol

PlanetSmasher wrote:I wish they would realize that making standalone media about supervillains WITHOUT their central superhero is a doomed venture. Sony is obsessed with it, WB is obsessed with it. Just fucking stop. Supervillains don't work on their own.
There's exactly three films this could apply to:
Venom: $856 million
Joker: $1.1 billion
Venom 2: $506 million (in late 2021)

Doomed venture.

Quote:I'll always stan Man of Steel, for me its by far the best movie in the Universe and to date it has the best fighting scenes of any superheroe movie, the way Superman moves in the Smallville and final fight is how I've always imagined how he moves in the comic when he is enraged, the impact of his punches and speed is masterful.
Quote:I got the best comic book movie ever made with ZSJL. MoS and BvS is pure art and the trilogy with all 3 is brilliant.
At least two kings though. HEAD TO TOE SOUL PLAYA
Lol these dudes picked The Marvels (I know captain Marvel, and then there's two chicks) over recognizable characters like Batman, problematic Flash, and old Batman.

Eta- Nerds used to have a good temperment for what was the new thing. But not these nerds.
I didn't count Morbius because I think he's sorta more like an anti-hero like Black Adam or Deadpool (or Suicide Squad) but if we want to...

Morbius: $168 million
Black Adam: $393 million
The Marvels: $205 million
(12-22-2023, 01:18 AM)books wrote: Nep sounds like the black power dude with the white wife in I'm Gonna Get U Sucka.

You really think sista gurl is packing a hookup knife for skinfolk? Shit naw fams it's for the cacs

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Black people are far too judgey and threatening for Nepenthe
 
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 to approach, much less bed
[Edit]: formatting is hard on mobile devices holy shit
Funny thing will be when DC gets their universe rebooted and humming along with Gunn in charge of the whole thing before the MCU figures it out again.  lol

Saw something about MCU wanting their X-Men movie to focus on the female characters. 

If true Not like this! 

Just give people the fucking X-Men they want to see. Mix the men and women exactly like the Fox X-Men did successfully for a few movies before screwing that up.
Mekanos wrote:Now, after MOS underperformed at the box office, WB should have said "Snyder, thank you for your hard work, but we are moving in a different direction." But then they doubled down and gave him the keys to the kingdom which cemented this universe was doomed. One of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen a movie studio make, and that's saying something.
I seriously wonder if these guys ever look anything up before pronouncing on it so confidently:
Batman Begins: $374 million
Superman Returns: $391 million
Iron Man: $586 million
The Incredible Hulk: $265 million
Iron Man 2: $624 million
Thor: $449 million
Captain America: $371 million
MoS: $668 million
Thor 2: $645 million
Captain America 2: $714 million
Ant-Man: $519 million
BvS: $874 million
Doctor Strange: $678 million
Josstice League: $658 million

uNdErPeRfOrMeD

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The Marvels: $205 million


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