Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[benji]

im pretty sure that pre-capitalist empires had kings/tsars/top priests/supreme rulers/whatever at the top, how is this different from having a boss and a government above you, except for the ability to choose your career?

if everything is reset, how do you fairly assign people to jobs? i would like to have a cosy office job rather than work in a field harvesting food, but why would i be able to?

if i want to spend all my days creating a video game that no one will ever play, how is that fair to the dude in the field collecting food?

i do want to make clear that rich people can obviously fuck off. no one needs a hundred yachts, private jets and a vault with golden coins. but i dont see how this capitalism as an ultimate threat works, seeing that we have had some communist countries crash and burn spectacularly

Noticed that not a single one of these questions was answered, not even an attempt was made. Instead it was a bunch of lecturing about irrelevant trivia from something she read while constantly insisting that different things are possible therefore her different things should be possible.

She dismissed all these concerns, as she typically does, because she's too stupid to understand why they're concerns in the first place. She wants something dammit so shutting the fuck up is free for you.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

There's an obvious solution: yts should be slaves. But why won't she say the obvious? Typical "leftist" compromising with the oppressors imo.

[nampad]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/people-with-jobs-i-have-a-question.798648/post-116767128

I worked for 10 years before i became too mentally ill to continue doing so and i literally only got a pay increase when state minimum wage went up...

I mean this isn’t surprising anyone here but sometimes it is nice just to have the confirmation.
Anyway, why work minimum wage when you can scam other idiots out of their money?

[benji]

Actual retards can work and are often good employees.

[benji]

How awful do you have to be to never get a raise from the legal minimum over an entire decade? Why would they even keep him?

[nachobro]

 shitposting is timeless

also prime video was worthless to me when they lost star trek but now there's bad nfl games and same day delivery so i'll never cancel. they got me 

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

From the capitalism is gonna end any day now thread:

That people see this as a war over Mr beast being good or bad is why you are all missing the point. People are tired of being moralised to about the pitfalls of capitalism in every single fucking thread. I'll repeat again, it's tiring. Maybe people simply want to come into a thread to hear a feel good story about some doggy getting saved, or some people getting access to some healthcare they otherwise wouldn't.

Is it bad that under our current circumstances people have to rely on a rich youtuber for these things to happen, yes! but we aren't changing the system by preaching to people about this, especially when people like Mr beast are a symptom of the system we all live under rather than a cause.

"I don't like thing", "ok" should really apply to these threads but some posters turn it into a vanguard party purity test, because some people dare to like that a capitalist did something positive. Planning the revolution one fucking Mr beast thread at a time. Good grief.

No ban message on any posts.

[benji]

Looking at the responses to that Hodgy post that aren't from Nepenthe:

Yes and no.

Like my issue is that yes, there's no ethical consumption under capitalism, we all need to pick and choose our poisons and what our lines are etc.

I can't be holier then though as we enjoy electronic xmas gifts that are shittily sourced.

That said, the line (and its for me) seems more black and white with someone like Mr. Beast for the ad nauseam argued reasons. And there's a tinge of generally content like this makes it easier to sell other parts of the dystopia. Is that fair, I dunno. We were all in love with Hbomberguy's video exposing wider internet plagerism at the same time there's an argument to be made (which he made several times himself) its also a youtube drama video which is not exactly a net positive (even with him promising to share the revenue with those maligned by Sommerson or however the fuck u spell his name)

We are going to have to agree to disagree in the post but I think the disconnect for various reasons is Mr. Beast just seems more black and white for some of us as far as the in your face issues with capitalism then other things we consume.

Mr. Beast absolutely could do good within the system and persuade me he's a great guy. I'm not asking him to help overthrow capitalism. If he was as good a guy as his videos make some of you believe, he could donate hundreds of millions of dollars to save thousands of dogs and help afford medical treatment for thousands of people. He could try his best to redistribute his wealth to the people who need it most around the world. He'd still have more money than he or his descendants could ever possibly spend. Why doesn't he? You probably think I'm asking too much, but if he truly has a passion for helping others instead of enriching himself I think it would occur to him to do more with the fortune he has sitting around. You can still be happy that the dogs got homes and enjoy the video even if Mr. Beast himself isn't a hero.

And if you don't want to waste your time trying to persuade me that him hoarding the money isn't inherently negative, that is fine. Just be happy for the dogs getting homes.

I think the uniqueness of Mr. Beast is why it is worth discussing. Most of this forum can see through Bezos or the Koch family doing "good deeds", but Mr. Beast is a very interesting case to me with how people defend him and I'm more interested in the counterpoints as a result.

Like, to me, Mr. Beast would never be able to approach his current fortune under a more fair system of distribution, but he obviously isn't responsible for the current system. It would be unreasonable to blame him in any way for capitalism itself. That said, it is still worth debating how much harm is being done by a person like Mr. Beast accumulating such a vast fortune that could do so much more good if it was distributed to people who need it. To me, trapping so much money in his accounts does more harm than his charitable work does good, but I'm open to arguments otherwise if anyone has any.

I love that Mr. Beast is a "black and white" issue because he, and he alone apparently, is "hoarding" money while they repeat slogans like "there's no ethical consumption under capitalism" meaning anything he does in unethical anyway.

What sucks about ResetERA.com is that nobody there will bother to challenge this. You don't "trap" money in your accounts, that's capital banks can loan out. If Mr. Beasts' money is "trapped" in any kind of investment vehicle that's money that can be given (not loaned) out to fund all kinds of things. They see all of this as corrupt and evil, not essential to our way of life. To them the money just sits there and magically grows, they never ask how it grows they just know it does because that's how evil works.

Rather than see the trade-offs, that Mr. Beast (or you or me or anyone else) can take all their money out of this system and spend it immediately based on our limited knowledge or we can let it grow through a voluntary collective system proven to provide the rising tide that has lifted everyone over the last century they get angry about the fact that life is getting better because they don't want it to. They want everyone to know their place in the hierarchy, someone like Mr. Beast or Elon Musk or Bill Gates or millions of others violate that because under a "just system" nobody would be rewarded exponentially for what they provide. The elite caste would know what you would deserve and would give you it.

They think socialism does away with profits when it doesn't, it just allocates them all to the state. Profits are smaller and ever shrinking (if they even exist) because central planning can only fail. Nobody is allowed to profit from their own labor, an elite caste steals everything through a monopoly corporation while forcing everyone else into slave labor. But at least everyone knows their place is based on the goodness of their person and not disgusting corrupt things like providing things people want. So much more just than the fact that other people can get rich doing things I personally don't like.

It's fundamentally a narcissistic view, that there's only one "true way" that all of life should be structured and if we just had a caste to force the truth on everyone then we could do away with "waste" like Mr. Beast and still have our video game consoles and furry suits that the elites would see as necessary and never choose to direct production to "more essential" items like the military. Their anger is that the system doesn't fund only what they want, instead it goes to lots of things they don't want but other people do, and that's why we need the more "democratic" system where everyone funds just what I want whether they want to or not.

[books]

In news that’ll surprise no one, turns out stealing a game award’s category and then promising to ban anyone who votes incorrectly has a low turnout. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-goty-sub-vote-thread-games-for-impact.796830/

11 total votes in 10 days.

Great job bdumbs!!!

L o l. Guess Ree isn't a video game discussion forum anymore.

Edit- Crossing Ubisoft makes great points in the Mr Beast is a monster thread but still is deferential to Nep, so she can't drop the banhammer. Everyone else should be sterilized; in their utopia and in real life.

[benji]

Oh, she answered those questions in a different post from the one Nintex quoted:

im pretty sure that pre-capitalist empires had kings/tsars/top priests/supreme rulers/whatever at the top, how is this different from having a boss and a government above you, except for the ability to choose your career?

Completely different cultural affects. The lack of a concept about privatized land, and the lack of a concept that a job is the sole definer of your worth as a human being, means you likely would not have been subject to things like wage theft or even the length of hours we work, nor would you have been more likely to be put into pure destitute poverty if, for example, you became disabled. Communalism is not feudalism which is not capitalism, despite the fact that all of these systems have hierarchies in them.

Literally insane. YOU WOULD HAVE JUST DIED BACK THEN AND YOU MIGHT HAVE TAKEN THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY WITH YOU! They didn't have the capital to provide for welfare!

if everything is reset, how do you fairly assign people to jobs?

Why are you assuming that normal human development that we have undergone since humans evolved requires a total reset? Knowledge and skills do not disappear just because people revolt. We're merely talking about a redistribution of power and control over capital.

She had literally said that everything should be abolished. The "normal human development we have undergone" that she wants to degrowth from?

And she didn't answer the question, why would things be assigned based on "knowledge and skills" (yt shit imo) from the capitalist era?

if i want to spend all my days creating a video game that no one will ever play, how is that fair to the dude in the field collecting food?

Unfairness regarding the perceived social value of labor is already built in to capitalism and I presume you're okay with it. Doctors, teachers, agricultural workers, garbage disposal workers, etc. make exponentially less than CEOs who do nothing but go to meetings and fuck around on golf courses and private parties.

However, if your video games aren't selling, and you literally aren't making money to sustain yourself, then you need to do something else, same as you would in capitalism now. Again, not much changes under socialism except that, when you actually get a job that is giving value to society, you have a higher wage, better benefits, and more say over your workplace conditions by default, because you are now a joint owner of the business, not a single CEO and a board of shareholders.

So under Nepenthe's "socialism" you're allowed to trade and go out of business based on whether you're "giving value to society"?

Capitalist countries have crashed and burned as well due to things like war or famine. The stability of your economic system is dependent upon whether or not you are willing to cooperate with the global hegemony, not whether or not you give all your money and power to as few people as possible.

Like, for example, do you think that places like Chile and Burkina Faso whose people voted for and supported leftist leaders who, like, just began providing healthcare, education, and access to food to the civilians because that's what the right thing to do is, just magically crashed and burned because for some reason the universe will not allow us to provide for all, or do you think American intervention was in play with something like assassinations and forced removal of these leaders? If the latter, what makes you think that socialism cannot work if left to its own devices?

I'll leave those questions hanging because I don't want to go too far off tangent regarding the feasibility of these systems. If you want very pared down versions of these facts, watch the YouTube channel Second Thought. If you're in the mood for reading, pick up Walter Rodney's "How Europe Underdeveloped Africa" to get a very clear picture on just the lengths the US and Europe will go to to deliberately fuck up a country, or even a continent, if proper development of that country does not serve its interests.

See, it was the yts fault. Sure, socialism can't work conceptually even but things crashed and burned only because of the yts. She points to places where socialism didn't even get off the ground, not places like the Soviet Union, China or North Korea where it did.

Spoiler: Not mad, do not put in the paper, et al (click to show)(click to hide)

I want you to notice that ITT I have absolutely advocated that people's grievances would reach far more ears if they actually addressed some of the content of his videos instead of making a lot of arguments that are far more likely to get an eyeroll than genuine engagement due to things patently being untrue and/or obtuse purity testing.

The funny thing about this is that a large contingent of people on MrBeast's side have openly admitted they have not watched a single video of his. So how am I supposed to address the video in a meaningful discussion if other people in the conversation who are arguing against me literally do not feel it's necessary to watch his content to do so? Again, I watch the primary video these threads are based on in case someone wants to try to do a bum-ass gotcha that I didn't watch. But it never actually comes up, because even folks who are defending his character don't watch the video either! They know that it's a video about dog adoption, and dog adoption is a good thing. That's the only knowledge they need going into this.

I have watched the content tho, before commenting ITT. And via the discourse ITT I have looked deeper into what's going on with this dude, and it's like, good lord people chose a hill to die on for the sake of appearing to be a progressive and the OPs look like this as it pertains to genuinely supporting charities, humanitarian orgs, making donations, etc. :

If people don't want the so-called virtue-signalling progressives around here to discuss anything else in this thread other than the video, then they should practice what they preach and only discuss the video. The first few pages are filled with shots to people who weren't even in the room at that point in time. "Hurr, how is Era gonna call this a bad thing?!"

If you want an answer on the problems with millionaire and billionaire philanthropy, eventually someone like me is going to come along and give you an answer, whether you really want one or not. If all along you didn't want to discuss that, that your shitslinging was just that- a way to be an asshole to people you have a problem with- and that you just "want to be happy" and celebrate good boys going to good homes, then don't be an asshole and just be happy that some doggos got adopted. The way this conversation turned out is ultimately a two-way street that could have been avoided entirely if folks who side with MrBeast just watched the video.

Subsequently, if people doing the slinging really cared about trying to get more dogs adopted beyond you, they would do that, but they don't because MrBeast threads really aren't ever about MrBeast. But again, it's a mistake to presume that people here, regardless of which side of the aisle they all on, aren't doing anything. A few folks here whose hackles are raised by MrBeast on similar philosophical grounds admit that they already work at dog shelters. I already have an ongoing monthly subscription to the ASPCA. You've donated in light of this thread. I'm pretty sure others have made donations in the past, or have volunteered in the past too (I did as a child and got dragged around by a pibbie). You cannot presume someone's time and monetary investment by how they're interacting in this thread, that were all effectively doing nothing unless we specifically shout out charities. Not that shouting out charities is a bad thing, mind you!

Honestly speaking, I am flabbergasted that the dude is able to maintain a comfortable standard of living because he seems to be an idealistic unhealthy workaholic who'd probably live a far better life if he just said "Fuck you got mine."

When you have a net worth of $500 million anything is possible.

THIS IS WHAT NEPENTHE ACTUALLY BELIEVES

You and I were clearly not going to do anything about it.

The reason MrBeast is allowed to do the things he does is because he has access to wealth and capital that no single individual on Era does.

Yes, this is true. So we're glad he's doing something with that wealth and capital, right?

I am glad dogs got adopted. But that has nothing to do with the argument about the systemic and social pitfalls of philanthropy.

I think from the discussion here, there is a moral question of how much someone should profit off of charity work.

MrBeast could literally be going in the hole on his charitable efforts and the issues I've outlined multiple times in this thread and others would still remain.

and even if so why shouldn't he live a lavish life as a reward for helping so many people and doing all these good deeds.

One's quality of life should not be dictated by how much capital they are able to give to charities, because all you're really saying is that the rich deserve to live better than the poor by default considering the rich can and routinely do throw out hundreds of thousands to millions towards different causes, amounts of money most people on the planet will not be able to accrue in their lifetime. Meanwhile, you have people in this very thread who have admitted to giving decades of their life trying to give dogs a good home for far less pay and recognition. They're literally doing more than MrBeast is personally. Do they nonetheless deserve a subpar living standard because they're not rich enough to do a splurge like MrBeast did in this video?

His monetization of charity seems to me to be a very unique case and I don't think anyone has ever done something like it by making it entertainment to self fund it all.

The only thing really unique about MrBeast is that he makes YouTube videos about his efforts. But millionaires and billionaires have been monetizing their charity for literally centuries. This isn't new.

By all accounts he technically is going in the hole due to the charity efforts. Capitalism won't be fixed by Mr Beast and no one has ever argued that it would be.

I'm not asking for MrBeast to fix capitalism because I don't believe individualistic thinking and special protagonists can solve the problem. But once again, that has nothing to do with the arguments I've proposed in this thread with how millionaire and billionaire philanthropy bolsters capitalism in economic and cultural ways.

I also don't believe that people have argued that Mr Beast doesn't inherently contribute to capitalism. No one has argued against that. People aren't particularly bothered, because the example of a person benefitting from how capitalism works is uh...a video about 100 dogs getting set up for life.

People aren't bothered by all sorts of affects of capitalism. I am, though. Again, if you ask "What's wrong with this MrBeast video?" whether or not you're being sarcastic, I'm going to give you a straightfoward answer based on consistent arguments I've made hundreds of times beforehand.

If all you want to do is talk about dog adoption, then talk about dog adoption.

If all you really want to say is that people should not discuss capitalism in discussions wherein a capitalist gives a sliver of his wealth away to the cause of dog adoption, that essentially we should just shut up about it, then once again I will fundamentally disagree with you, because I believe part of the process in fighting capitalism is not letting people be apathetic about these issues. That's liberalism. (Don't be a liberal.)

"Can't we just be happy some dogs got adopted?!" Be happy! I'm not stopping you! You are not obligated to respond to my posts. Plenty of others have driven by praising MrBeast. Not sure why some of the rest of you cannot! 🤷🏿‍♀️

He's worth half a billion dollars. If helping others and doing good deeds is to be rewarded with compensation, there is an endless amount of people on Era alone that should all be billionaires by that measure.

I would like to be compensated for all the time I've spent using my own gas, car, body, and time to package up and deliver groceries and supplies to the poor. I'm not even asking for MrBeast numbers. A nice 10k, please?

Can we just acknowledge that the vast majority of people aren't actually explaining their grievances with capitalism but are instead directing their ire at a dude who has no power to fix it?

Sure. But again, I personally do not care that a single rich white dude is on receiving end of ire from poor folks. Like I said, he'll be fine, and if by some chance this thread is impacting his self esteem, he can easily afford a therapist and keep it moving.

Comparing available resources and free time compared to MrBeast, you can have Earth if you want. But also $10,000 will do if that's what you want.

I just wanna get rid of my student loans.

Nepenthe took out student loans to get an animation degree from an art school it took her seven years to get.

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[books]

Her problem is thinking people will follow her vision whereas someone would just *price is right* bet one more and she'd be out and be in the gulag shift. She's dumb but she's trying. She should stop talking but mod armor feels so comfortable.

[benji]

Her problem is thinking people will follow her vision whereas someone would just *price is right* bet one more and she'd be out and be in the gulag shift. She's dumb but she's trying. She should stop talking but mod armor feels so comfortable.

The revolution hasn't really happened if I don't have mod armor after it, chud.

[Propagandhim]

I'll never understand how the most miserable, misanthropic people have the most idealized views of human incentives and motivations in economies, and everything else is back to misanthropy.

[Propagandhim]

However, if your video games aren't selling, and you literally aren't making money to sustain yourself, then you need to do something else, same as you would in capitalism now. Again, not much changes under socialism except that, when you actually get a job that is giving value to society you have a higher wage, better benefits, and more say over your workplace conditions by default, because you are now a joint owner of the business, not a single CEO and a board of shareholders.

Except when it comes to her art, then we can ban discussion and the art utilization part of AI, so her labor is always deemed as giving value to society instead of the actual thing giving value to society.  See, top-down hierarchy from the economic czars always works!  Maybe we can tool around with this perfect egalitarian system and get all those pesky Jews out of low-skilled labor, too, so all my friends can get paid more.

[Orange Juice Box]

And if you don't want to waste your time trying to persuade me that him hoarding the money isn't inherently negative, that is fine. Just be happy for the dogs getting homes.

I think the uniqueness of Mr. Beast is why it is worth discussing. Most of this forum can see through Bezos or the Koch family doing "good deeds", but Mr. Beast is a very interesting case to me with how people defend him and I'm more interested in the counterpoints as a result.

Like, to me, Mr. Beast would never be able to approach his current fortune under a more fair system of distribution, but he obviously isn't responsible for the current system. It would be unreasonable to blame him in any way for capitalism itself. That said, it is still worth debating how much harm is being done by a person like Mr. Beast accumulating such a vast fortune that could do so much more good if it was distributed to people who need it.

Even Brother Scrooge knows that his vault of coins would be useless if he kept it in the vault.  



I don't think there is a finite amount of money nor is it a zero sum game.  As long as Mr. Beast isn't actively using his money to destroy economic systems for the less rich does it matter how many 000's his account says?

Of course Nepenthe would just say, "of course it inherently does hurt everyone," and 3 people would say, "FIRE Queen!" 

But less and less say that and many more actively snipe at her sanctimony.  A shame Era's brightest star will simply become a discarded White Dwarf instead of a brilliant supernova

[Propagandhim]

I want to experience degrowth in the era of capitalist decline where me and the 50 other co-owners of the Shoprite I work at have decided by a 2 vote majority that Fruit Roll Ups have been using queer-coded language for far too long with no kickback contribution to the gay community that helped get their delicious product to amass the wealth it has.

[benji]

Look, the only reason things aren't perfect and these simple things that have never happened aren't done is because I wasn't yet here to read a single book and tell everyone how obvious and easy everything is. The only reason you'd disagree is because you're stupid or evil or both. Just enact socialism where if what you sell nobody wants you go out of business and get a job somewhere else providing actual value to society instead of capitalism where everything is stolen by a handful of elite yt cishets who are in power despite being corrupt and useless because of their arbitrary social connections or political convenience.

[AldusMoneyPenny]

TIL that CEOs only "go to meetings" and "play golf and go to private parties." If only they had to do "real" work! In my post-capitalist society they'll be the first to the salt mines

This is not authoritarianism btw

[AldusMoneyPenny]

Always find it funny when the main argument seems to be "a few societies of a few dozen folks made socialism work - let's implement it worldwide for 7 billion people!"

Brilliant. What could go wrong?

[AldusMoneyPenny]

Jeez, just rewatched Parasite the other week too.

RIP :(

Stay safe

https://www.resetera.com/threads/parasite-actor-lee-sun-kyun-found-dead-amid-investigation-over-drug-allegations.799284/post-116841630

[PogiJones]

Looking at the responses to that Hodgy post that aren't from Nepenthe:

Yes and no.

Like my issue is that yes, there's no ethical consumption under capitalism, we all need to pick and choose our poisons and what our lines are etc.

I can't be holier then though as we enjoy electronic xmas gifts that are shittily sourced.

That said, the line (and its for me) seems more black and white with someone like Mr. Beast for the ad nauseam argued reasons. And there's a tinge of generally content like this makes it easier to sell other parts of the dystopia. Is that fair, I dunno. We were all in love with Hbomberguy's video exposing wider internet plagerism at the same time there's an argument to be made (which he made several times himself) its also a youtube drama video which is not exactly a net positive (even with him promising to share the revenue with those maligned by Sommerson or however the fuck u spell his name)

We are going to have to agree to disagree in the post but I think the disconnect for various reasons is Mr. Beast just seems more black and white for some of us as far as the in your face issues with capitalism then other things we consume.

Mr. Beast absolutely could do good within the system and persuade me he's a great guy. I'm not asking him to help overthrow capitalism. If he was as good a guy as his videos make some of you believe, he could donate hundreds of millions of dollars to save thousands of dogs and help afford medical treatment for thousands of people. He could try his best to redistribute his wealth to the people who need it most around the world. He'd still have more money than he or his descendants could ever possibly spend. Why doesn't he? You probably think I'm asking too much, but if he truly has a passion for helping others instead of enriching himself I think it would occur to him to do more with the fortune he has sitting around. You can still be happy that the dogs got homes and enjoy the video even if Mr. Beast himself isn't a hero.

And if you don't want to waste your time trying to persuade me that him hoarding the money isn't inherently negative, that is fine. Just be happy for the dogs getting homes.

I think the uniqueness of Mr. Beast is why it is worth discussing. Most of this forum can see through Bezos or the Koch family doing "good deeds", but Mr. Beast is a very interesting case to me with how people defend him and I'm more interested in the counterpoints as a result.

Like, to me, Mr. Beast would never be able to approach his current fortune under a more fair system of distribution, but he obviously isn't responsible for the current system. It would be unreasonable to blame him in any way for capitalism itself. That said, it is still worth debating how much harm is being done by a person like Mr. Beast accumulating such a vast fortune that could do so much more good if it was distributed to people who need it. To me, trapping so much money in his accounts does more harm than his charitable work does good, but I'm open to arguments otherwise if anyone has any.

I love that Mr. Beast is a "black and white" issue because he, and he alone apparently, is "hoarding" money while they repeat slogans like "there's no ethical consumption under capitalism" meaning anything he does in unethical anyway.

What sucks about ResetERA.com is that nobody there will bother to challenge this. You don't "trap" money in your accounts, that's capital banks can loan out. If Mr. Beasts' money is "trapped" in any kind of investment vehicle that's money that can be given (not loaned) out to fund all kinds of things. They see all of this as corrupt and evil, not essential to our way of life. To them the money just sits there and magically grows, they never ask how it grows they just know it does because that's how evil works.

Rather than see the trade-offs, that Mr. Beast (or you or me or anyone else) can take all their money out of this system and spend it immediately based on our limited knowledge or we can let it grow through a voluntary collective system proven to provide the rising tide that has lifted everyone over the last century they get angry about the fact that life is getting better because they don't want it to. They want everyone to know their place in the hierarchy, someone like Mr. Beast or Elon Musk or Bill Gates or millions of others violate that because under a "just system" nobody would be rewarded exponentially for what they provide. The elite caste would know what you would deserve and would give you it.

They think socialism does away with profits when it doesn't, it just allocates them all to the state. Profits are smaller and ever shrinking (if they even exist) because central planning can only fail. Nobody is allowed to profit from their own labor, an elite caste steals everything through a monopoly corporation while forcing everyone else into slave labor. But at least everyone knows their place is based on the goodness of their person and not disgusting corrupt things like providing things people want. So much more just than the fact that other people can get rich doing things I personally don't like.

It's fundamentally a narcissistic view, that there's only one "true way" that all of life should be structured and if we just had a caste to force the truth on everyone then we could do away with "waste" like Mr. Beast and still have our video game consoles and furry suits that the elites would see as necessary and never choose to direct production to "more essential" items like the military. Their anger is that the system doesn't fund only what they want, instead it goes to lots of things they don't want but other people do, and that's why we need the more "democratic" system where everyone funds just what I want whether they want to or not.

I read just enough of this post to justify giving it a like

[Besticus Maximus]

What kind of idiot takes 7 years to learn how to use an animation software package well enough to get a BA from a school literally nobody has ever heard of ever

[Snoopy]

I was taught charity was something you did in private. And if you do it in public, then keep your fist closed when giving. You're not supposed to flaunt that you're giving $100 instead of $1 because then it's less charity and more showing off. MrBeast's charity is the polar opposite of that. Boastful. This has got to rub a lot of people the wrong way.

There goes ree jerking off in glory holes again

[JoeBoy101]

In other news, now I found why some of the deviants at REE despise the video game Ready or Not so much. 

Cop Propaganda? Hogwash!

https://nichegamer.com/ready-or-not-furry-ironman-campaign/

Tactical shooter Ready or Not has seemingly drawn inspiration from reality as their new Ironman Campaign contains a mission where players arrest a child-abusing furry streamer.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[Uncle]

TIL that CEOs only "go to meetings" and "play golf and go to private parties." If only they had to do "real" work! In my post-capitalist society they'll be the first to the salt mines

This is not authoritarianism btw

in a sleep deprived haze I read this as "play with their private parts"

[BIONIC]

TIL that CEOs only "go to meetings" and "play golf and go to private parties." If only they had to do "real" work! In my post-capitalist society they'll be the first to the salt mines

This is not authoritarianism btw

in a sleep deprived haze I read this as "play with their private parts"

They’re just like me fr fr

[Besticus Maximus]

Silent Panda doing their absolute best to blame that parasite guys death on the British empire 200 years ago, rather than the fucked up authoritarian hellscape he actually lived in

[Straight Edge]

Correct me if I’m wrong but is Mr beast’s operation even capitalism? He more of an “artist” who gets paid by a wealthy patron; advertisers. His videos are free for all to watch. If anything, he is taking money from the capitalists and giving back to communities.

[Snoopy]

[DocWager]

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Silent Panda doing their absolute best to blame that parasite guys death on the British empire 200 years ago, rather than the fucked up authoritarian hellscape he actually lived in

“How to blame something on capitalism, and white people today to derail a thread without the mods taking action because they love randomly spouting communism like a murder cult leader being interviewed while serving life in prison?”

[Potato]

Oh, she answered those questions in a different post from the one Nintex quoted:

im pretty sure that pre-capitalist empires had kings/tsars/top priests/supreme rulers/whatever at the top, how is this different from having a boss and a government above you, except for the ability to choose your career?

Completely different cultural affects. The lack of a concept about privatized land, and the lack of a concept that a job is the sole definer of your worth as a human being, means you likely would not have been subject to things like wage theft or even the length of hours we work, nor would you have been more likely to be put into pure destitute poverty if, for example, you became disabled. Communalism is not feudalism which is not capitalism, despite the fact that all of these systems have hierarchies in them.

Motherfucker, people's names were literally derived from their jobs.

Steve the blacksmith literally became Steve Smith. Ben the cooper literally became Ben Cooper. John the shipwright literally became John Wright.