Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Giving the Genocide Joe babies more power. Good job, B-dubs. Ban baiting is on the menu!

[Taco Bell Tower]

Listen up. People are more than welcome to criticize Biden for his role in what is currently going on in Gaza. What you cannot do is take threads about other minority issues and turn them into threads about what is going on in Gaza. When you do that, you are basically telling people that you don't give a rat's ass about them or the issues that directly affect them. You might not think that, but that is the message being recieved.

So, threads about general speeches, like this one, and whatnot? Feel free to criticize him and hold him accountable.

Threads about how Trump wants to round up Hispanics and put them into concentration camps or about how the GOP is attempting to genocide trans people or other issues/programs that directly affect other minority groups? Let those people have the space to discuss the topic. Their issues matter and they should be given space to discuss them.

In addition, we're not doing this whole sniping at each other thing. There's going to be no "You're supporting x horrible thing because of how you are voting." Just because you are going to vote for Biden doesn't mean you support his treatment of the Palestinians, just like how choosing not to vote for him doesn't mean you support what the Republicans are doing to minority groups in America. If you do this kind of thing expect a ban and if you don't even live in the US in the first place then expect a bigger ban.

This is going to be a long and hard year for everyone, especially if Trump winds up winning the GOP primary. At the very least we can try and show each other some respect and to recognize that there are a lot of important issues that affect a lot of different minority groups and to give these groups space to discuss them.

B-Dumbs

Let's try this again without everyone sniping at each other.

He's asking for the impossible.

[Nintex]

Listen up. People are more than welcome to criticize Trump for his role in what is currently going on with Kanye. What you cannot do is take threads about other minority issues and turn them into threads about what is going on with Kanye. When you do that, you are basically telling people that you don't give a rat's ass about them or the issues that directly affect them. You might not think that, but that is the message being recieved.

So, threads about general speeches, like this one, and whatnot? Feel free to criticize him and hold him accountable.

Threads about how Biden wants to round up January 6th Protestors and put them into concentration camps or about how the Democrats are attempting to genocide Jews or other issues/programs that directly affect other minority groups? Let those people have the space to discuss the topic. Their issues matter and they should be given space to discuss them.

In addition, we're not doing this whole sniping at each other thing. There's going to be no "You're supporting x horrible thing because of how you are voting." Just because you are going to vote for Trump doesn't mean you support his treatment of the Kardashians, just like how choosing not to vote for him doesn't mean you support what the Democrats are doing to minority groups in America. If you do this kind of thing expect a ban and if you don't even live in the US in the first place then expect a bigger ban.

This is going to be a long and hard year for everyone, especially if Biden winds up winning the Democratic primary. At the very least we can try and show each other some respect and to recognize that there are a lot of important issues that affect a lot of different minority groups and to give these groups space to discuss them.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

PoliEra needs to be careful, they're all on Nepenthe's list.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2024-ot-1-doom-eternal.800787/page-8?post=117255411#post-117255411

User Banned (1 week): antagonizing other members

However you look at it you can't take your eyes off him. He's a walking trainwreck.

I'd rather willingly put soap in my eyes. It's scary shit at worst and nonsensical babble at best. Nails on a chalkboard- I don't see how anybody that isn't already deep into supporting this prick can find any of what he says compelling, ironically or not. All it does is piss me off that this piece of shit has a platform and any kind of influence.

I'm not sure they were otherwise good reasonable folks if they were easily swayed into hating everyone and anything that will help others.

Seems like pretty useless, self-defeating, and arrogant rhetoric to assume the problem is just that these people were always inherently evil at their core; that they were lost causes from the start. If that was the case, there would be no need for the giant rightwing media machine, the untold amounts of money and effort used to support it, and the associated, constant flood of misinformation and lies. Yours is a blisteringly naive take, especially when there are countless stories out there of loved ones being taken advantage of by these factors, one of such examples you just so comfortably brushed off like it was nothing, since you're in a political thread but for some reason don't even have the most basic awareness of how propaganda reaches people.

 

[Snoopy]

I feel sorry for the likes of Shreds because they seem to have fallen through the safety net and landed on hard times. If Shreds is genuinely suffering from dysphoria then that’s even worse because they’ll never pass. There’s no surgery in the world that will make that happen, which must be devastating for someone in their position. So I have complete sympathy for them. Who I have zero sympathy for are the cheap, worthless bullies in Kyuuji’s discord mob. They are awful people who constantly use the trans label as an excuse for their horrible behaviour. They deserve all they get.

[HaughtyFrank]

Just because you are going to vote for Biden doesn't mean you support his treatment of the Palestinians, just like how choosing not to vote for him doesn't mean you support what the Republicans are doing to minority groups in America.

Curious, couldn't you say the same thing about a Republican voter then?

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

What if voting for Trump is the only option to tell the Dem's that their actions in the middle east is wrong? It'll be 4 years of terror.. but the message will be made.

Biden. Be better. Do better.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fired-up-biden-shows-gloves-are-off-in-january-6-anniversary-speech.802743/?post=117261549#post-117261549

How is this not a drive by? 

[Pwnz]

Listen up. People are more than welcome to criticize Biden for his role in what is currently going on in Gaza. What you cannot do is take threads about other minority issues and turn them into threads about what is going on in Gaza. When you do that, you are basically telling people that you don't give a rat's ass about them or the issues that directly affect them. You might not think that, but that is the message being recieved.

So, threads about general speeches, like this one, and whatnot? Feel free to criticize him and hold him accountable.

Threads about how Trump wants to round up Hispanics and put them into concentration camps or about how the GOP is attempting to genocide trans people or other issues/programs that directly affect other minority groups? Let those people have the space to discuss the topic. Their issues matter and they should be given space to discuss them.

In addition, we're not doing this whole sniping at each other thing. There's going to be no "You're supporting x horrible thing because of how you are voting." Just because you are going to vote for Biden doesn't mean you support his treatment of the Palestinians, just like how choosing not to vote for him doesn't mean you support what the Republicans are doing to minority groups in America. If you do this kind of thing expect a ban and if you don't even live in the US in the first place then expect a bigger ban.

This is going to be a long and hard year for everyone, especially if Trump winds up winning the GOP primary. At the very least we can try and show each other some respect and to recognize that there are a lot of important issues that affect a lot of different minority groups and to give these groups space to discuss them.

B-Dumbs

Let's try this again without everyone sniping at each other.

He's asking for the impossible.

...are the era mods just trolls? Like I know Nep and others have huge ego issues and are trying to moderate their beliefs instead of discussion, but what B-Dubs did here is basically endorse the weaponized use of ban baiting so long as it's righteous. I think he understands this, so is it just a game to set this up? If so it's kind of masterful? Nah...

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

The fact you can actually criticize Biden and protest against his handling of the Gaza situation is actually a good example of the difference between him and Trump. Trump will do the same but most likely will try to straight up ban and suppress any and all protests against him. Like this speech implies, Trump will try to silence any voices against him. Treads like this would straight up be illegal if he gets all what he wants. That alone is an insanely big difference between Biden and Trump.

.. Is this guy an idiot? Did he sleep through the Trump presidency? There were non stop protests. I guess these idiots forget BLM ever happened with "NO TRUMP, NO KKK, NO FASCIST USA"

[books]

Here's how it'll go. People will be cheered for not wanting to vote for Biden. This will go on for a few months. Once it gets closer to the finish line, the same people not wanting to vote for Biden will be banned as dismissing concerns. The end.

[Nintex]

Does Ree realize that by supporting the Palestinian cause they support the Russians?

The PLO was just another cold war proxy front formed by the KGB and Arafat was their agent. This was not just confirmed by documents found after the Soviet Union collapsed but also a former Romanian intelligence chief.

As usual he was poisoned by Polonium once they didn't need him anymore at least according to Swiss researchers.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-24838061

Until the real experts weighed in.

Last month, the head of the Russian Federal Medico-Biological Agency, Vladimir Uiba, was quoted by the Interfax news agency as saying that Arafat "could not have been poisoned with polonium", saying that test carried out by Russian experts "found no traces of this substance".

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Any new Biden thread on resetera should include "I don't want this thread being derailed so please do not start the Genocide Joe rhetoric here."

It worked in The Marvels OT!

[Uncle]

This is going to be a long and hard year for everyone, especially if Trump winds up winning the GOP primary.

not for me, I'm gonna have a great year, I got lots of cool games to play and books to read, my buddy has his plex loaded up with movies, will have a good time hanging out with family

don't know what's gonna be so long and hard about it for mr. dubs, sounds like a "him" problem

[Echelon]

These retards can't go a full page without having the mods tell them how to behave and what they're allowed to think. Maybe we'll get lucky and this election shit will reach a critical mass of banning that will finally put that miserable shithole out of business.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2024-ot-1-doom-eternal.800787/page-9?post=117264771#post-117264771

Yup, I've started my election season ignore list. It would be nice of using any means for thread derailing itself be a rule, because that's what's missing. In OT, any discussion gets stopped by unrelated grievances.

It is what it is, so I use the ignore list.

                  Modwhining
 

[Boredfrom]

I said that I am 100% ok with people arguing that Burr is not crafting his jokes well.
but I am not ok with you saying I am downplaying the transphobica of his jokes.

And yes, I am doubling down on the idea that analizing the comedy content and proving that burr transphobic jokes are better than chappelle is not downplaying his transphobia because the transphobia in question is not in discussion when talking about how crafted the joke is.
Making a better crafted joke does not make it less transphobic. Being less transphobic make it less transphobic.
One could, theorically, craft a good joke while still being very transphobic. Or xenophobic against brazilians =P
Would that joke work only to transphobes? Yes. Because being on the same headspace as the comedian is necessary to ALL jokes.
Brazil has jokes about Portuguese and Argentinians that would not work in any other country because they don't have the baggage Brazil has with Argentina and Portugal.
That is why we discussed the importance of the intro of a joke.

The 2021 transphobic vagina joke had the bare minimum to be called a joke. The "jim carey identified as andy kauffman" didn't. Chappelle is caring less about jokes and more about being transphobic. Burr cared about making a bad joke while making very transphobic jokes.
They both make jokes coming from the same place: the prejudice based on ignorance (even if how Chappelle is diving into said ignorance is notable). But Burr tryes to at least make it reesemble a joke.
Notice how I am not writing "burr tryes to at least to be less transphobic".

Like same shitty message, less buggy game.
My focus is that saying that besides having a shitty message, THE FOCUS OF THIS THREAD is buggy.

I am not downplaying Burr, I am digging Chappelle depper.
and if you don't understand that, please just flag the post where I said "fuck" for a temp ban =P

hmmm... shit example but you know "how you can like something and still criticize it" ?
You can still think something is vile shit and still analize it critically to say it has more artistic merit than other vile shit while both being vile shit.
I have seen lots movies that have awesome messages and are, on a technical level, much shittier than American Sniper, a movie whose entire ideology I despise.
This does not mean I am downplaying the shitty ideology of American Sniper.

Like if you think loosing a finger on your foot is better than lossing a hand, that does not mean you are downplaying loosing a finger on your foot.

Comparing shit things does not mean the other shit thing is ok, desirable or not shit.

[Uncle]

https://imgur.com/gallery/jKSwOD5

[Rendle]

I feel sorry for the likes of Shreds because they seem to have fallen through the safety net and landed on hard times. If Shreds is genuinely suffering from dysphoria then that’s even worse because they’ll never pass. There’s no surgery in the world that will make that happen, which must be devastating for someone in their position. So I have complete sympathy for them. Who I have zero sympathy for are the cheap, worthless bullies in Kyuuji’s discord mob. They are awful people who constantly use the trans label as an excuse for their horrible behaviour. They deserve all they get.

I don't know about that. I feel sorry for anyone who isn't happy (except myself because I have self-respect). I never bought into the whole "underneath every bully there is someone in pain" -excuse, but I get the impression that these are people who have given up on happiness and just want to tear other people down because it's the only respite from their own lives, and that's sad. Ignorance may be bliss, but arrogance? Nope.

[HaughtyFrank]

Platy got a threadban. Anyone else would have received a perma ban for going against the trans Mafia like that

 

Use Warned (Permanent Threadban): Arguing semantics in a sensitive thread, over a series of posts causing a derail

https://www.resetera.com/threads/variety-dave-chappelle%E2%80%99s-obsession-with-mocking-trans-people-continues-in-new-netflix-special-%E2%80%98the-dreamer%E2%80%99-i-love-punching-down.800589/post-117262005

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Platy was silenced just like Captain America.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Biden will get my vote. Democracy here in the USA is pretty damn important. No other country will save us if we lose it, and it's clear most Americans are far too apathetic to fight for it.

Love how Americans are willing to throw democracy away (kind of the reason we have a country) because of some terrorists in the Middle East.

[benji]

Threads about how Trump wants to round up Hispanics and put them into concentration camps or about how the GOP is attempting to genocide trans people or other issues/programs that directly affect other minority groups? Let those people have the space to discuss the topic. Their issues matter and they should be given space to discuss them.

...

At the very least we can try and show each other some respect and to recognize that there are a lot of important issues that affect a lot of different minority groups and to give these groups space to discuss them.

What is there to discuss about these topics? The only possible discussion is whether or not these things should override other good or bad things in decisions regarding the actors. And you just banned that. You also don't realize it but you also banned those groups from saying "this is why we have to vote Biden" or well, you would have been doing this but we know you won't apply rules fairly nor add these new rules to the rules.

No, I have not noticed that because that's not how laws are written.

But this is what trans people want?

[benji]

Biden will get my vote. Democracy here in the USA is pretty damn important. No other country will save us if we lose it, and it's clear most Americans are far too apathetic to fight for it.

Love how Americans are willing to throw democracy away (kind of the reason we have a country) because of some terrorists in the Middle East.

"Vote Biden to save democracy from the American people!"

[Boredfrom]

Vote Biden because I don’t want another 4 years of that dumb fuck Trump, you cunts.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Biden will get my vote. Democracy here in the USA is pretty damn important. No other country will save us if we lose it, and it's clear most Americans are far too apathetic to fight for it.

Love how Americans are willing to throw democracy away (kind of the reason we have a country) because of some terrorists in the Middle East.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fired-up-biden-shows-gloves-are-off-in-january-6-anniversary-speech.802743/page-5?post=117271845#post-117271845

and he's banned.

User Banned (permanent): blatant islamophobia

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

so are Hamas.. not terrorists?

[benji]

Vote Biden because I don’t want another 4 years of that dumb fuck Trump, you cunts.

                          online foreign influence campaign to steal our democracy?

[Straight Edge]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-have-any-videogame-art-on-your-walls.800907/page-2

No.

I'm a grown-ass man.

Today I learned that even though I own a house and have a wife and two kids and a full time job, I'm not a grown ass man because I gots video games art on my wall

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fired-up-biden-shows-gloves-are-off-in-january-6-anniversary-speech.802743/page-7?post=117275121#post-117275121

The elephant in the room here that no one has ever had an answer for is what will we do when a Republican inevitably wins? We all know how the math for FPTP systems swing, and it's from one choice to another on a whim. So it might not be today, it might not be tomorrow, but eventually, a Republican is going to win the Presidency again, and lately the party has shown no signs on offering a referendum to slow down back to some level of actual sanity and good faith. So what is Democrats' and liberals' contingency plans for that inevitability? Just leave minorities to die and browbeat us about not voting hard enough when ultimately it's likely to be the fault of Midwestern independents anyway?