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Palette_Swapp wrote:I’m really fucking happy the French government is lending resources to the search while they’re debating whether helping the thousands of people who drown every year in the Mediterranean Sea would create an “incentive” to immigration, and they should stop doing so.
You understand that their death is/was pretty horrible? Will you say this shit if there were random researchers?
There's something you have to understand about being extremely online - you gain a particular type of sociopathy that's like a more callous form of autism. When you mostly socialize through abstract, asymmetrical message boards you don't have the sobering influence of witnessing other peoples' reactions to what you're saying, like facial expressions or tone of voice. It's all just words on a screen, they're not real people anymore, only an output for your input. If you were to talk to somebody IRL and tell them that you don't care about those people who died on a submarine, they would be disgusted at you, and no matter how much of an edgelord you are your animal brain would be swayed and tempered by that reaction because a monkey who disrupts the social order gets no bananas. The internet allows that monkey to be a shameful little shit and still get bananas, so it becomes a fat and hateful monkey, unconcerned with its condition.
It kills me more because Paletee Swap and his kind think THEY are empathetic.
“Why the French want to rescue some rich people lives if they let refugees die?” Like dude, you don’t actually give a shit about them given how little you care about people lives to even read who the victims are…
RE bans people for saying "this Prince of Persia trailer kind of tries to copy Spider-verse" but people celebrating the death of some rich people gets an "Um, actually both sides are bad" post
(06-20-2023, 10:30 PM)Greatness Gone wrote: we got a big one.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/titanic-tourist-sub-goes-missing-sparking-search.732486/page-20#post-107704113
Quote:I need to be completely honest here, this thread is fucking embarrassing and is embarrassing from two different positions that I will now outline. If you feel attacked by the rest of this post, I would ask you to reflect on this and ask yourself why and if maybe you should change your behavior or views in some way. That said, I doubt it happens and I expect a lot of angry tickets, reports, PMs, and general whining on whatever discord you're on where your buddies will tell you that you did nothing wrong and flame me and describe the time they got banned for bigotry or platform warring as something more noble instead of the nonsense it was. Because that's what usually happens in these situations.
Moving on, here we go.
1.The first group that should be embarrassed are the ones celebrating this. You lack empathy and use your ideology to justify it. What you're doing is known as "othering" and it's something you likely learned about in high school. Othering is when you take a group of people and separate them from the rest of society and use things like stereotypes in order to justify said othering. Usually, when someone others another person they use this to justify treating them as different, as separate, and somehow deserving of the bad things that happen to them. It's a way to justify feeling happy when shitty things happen to them. When this thread started everyone felt bad for the people missing, then when we found out one was rich that flipped around and people started celebrating even though that also means you're celebrating this same thing happening to the other victims. This is called being an asshole. Random people do not deserve horrible things happening to them, regardless of who they happened to be in a room with. By celebrating you are literally justifying the deaths of random people as "worth it" to kill this one guy. You can not care, that's fine. I don't care about all of this. I feel bad for the innocent people and don't care what happens to this guy, but a lot of you are straight up crossing the line even if you think you aren't. You know who you are because you feel attacked by this and you should because you're embarrassing yourselves. Be better people, it's not hard. Just don't be an asshole, you learn that as a kid but apparently people forget that lesson when they hit adulthood. Seriously, don't be a jerk.
2.The second group that should be embarrassed are the people who are derailing the thread by "tut tutting" the first group of people. You're making this thread about them instead of about the actual victims and we should all know better than that. By engaging in this behavior you are making the thread about yourself and the people you are attacking. When bad things happen to people we should be centering the victims, this is basic. This is the sort of thing that everyone with empathy intrinsically knows. By making it about yourselves and the meta discussion you take the focus away from those who have been hurt, killed, or put in danger. All of a sudden it's about you on your soapbox and you give space to the assholes in point one to make the thread about justifying their othering, thus making the problem worse. Derailing a thread like this will never make it any better, this is why I made a staff post telling people to knock it off. You should be embarrassed because you recognized the bad behavior and instead of ignoring it, reporting it, and keeping the focus on the victims you made the thread about the forum and the posters in this thread. Congratulations, you derailed the thread.
There is also a third group that did the right thing that has no need to be embarrassed because they did the right thing. They saw the thread was in a bad state, sent in some reports, and tried to keep the focus on the victims. Good job, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for not making the thread about you and trying to keep the focus where it belongs.
As you have probably noticed, I made a staff post earlier in this thread asking everyone to knock off the nonsense. Everyone decided that this did not apply to them and kept going. I happened to be at work and what do I find when I get home? Bullshit. Seriously, grow up, go outside and touch some grass. It wasn't a hard request, but apparently not being the center of attention or having basic humanity is hard. Who knew?
As such, I will be going through this thread and issuing bans to everyone who decided to ignore the staff post and a few of the ones before I made my post because holy shit guys. My suggestion is to take this as a learning opportunity, a moment to reflect on what has happened and grow as a person. We're all like that, nobody is perfect. Everyone will fuck up eventually. Take the opportunity, please, I beg you. It's not hard to actually care about people.
This is the culture B-Dumbs and crew spent years cultivating. So it's strange he's talking about this like he isn't partly (largely?) responsible for why the inmates act the way they do. You know how they love to pin the "culture" of a community on the content creator/head person? Same applies here. But we all know B-Dubs and crew operates on "Rules for thee. Not for me."
06-20-2023, 10:54 PM
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(06-20-2023, 10:35 PM)Boredfrom wrote: He should be embarrassed of himself and his moderation team. Alas…  They are the ones that created that community.
that big post by Dubs is correct, but he's forgetting to mention himself.
b-dubs, you and your team have, implicitly or explicitly, fostered this environment. when someone who ended up being an antivax nutter died, you let ppl try to one-up each other with shitty jokes about "hoping they die twice." you have let thread after thread be moved down this road by letting ppl try to figure out someone's economic status whenever something happens.
and more than anything, you have let ppl do exactly what you mention in your "ppl derailing the thread are just as bad" for actual literal years. you continue to let posters dogpile and shit on the trolls instead of saying "anyone who continues the derail instead of just reporting and moving on." it ain't hard. other boards have a policy that if you engage with the trolls, you get actioned as well. era and gaf both loved it when a troll popped up, because it gave ppl free rein to be hostile, antagonize, all of the stuff that normally isn't allowed, because you were doing so in the service of good.
you and your staff is the reason you get threads like that: you've let the mindset of "fuck 'em if they aren't on our side" fester until you get this, a thread where ppl feel ok making their only contribution to a thread be gravedancing.
like i said earlier, i think it's too late for the forum as a whole, because you've let it go too long, but it's good to see you doing something. now, just apply that to every time people are shitty like this, instead of when it's literally someone being crushed to death at the bottom of the ocean.
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>5 real people die
>genocide that results in zero deaths
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Quote:Be better people, it's not hard. Just don't be an asshole, you learn that as a kid but apparently people forget that lesson when they hit adulthood. Seriously, don't be a jerk.
B-Dumbs asking Ree the impossible.
06-20-2023, 11:22 PM
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(06-20-2023, 10:30 PM)Greatness Gone wrote: we got a big one.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/titanic-tourist-sub-goes-missing-sparking-search.732486/page-20#post-107704113
Quote:I need to be completely honest here, this thread is fucking embarrassing and is embarrassing from two different positions that I will now outline. If you feel attacked by the rest of this post, I would ask you to reflect on this and ask yourself why and if maybe you should change your behavior or views in some way. That said, I doubt it happens and I expect a lot of angry tickets, reports, PMs, and general whining on whatever discord you're on where your buddies will tell you that you did nothing wrong and flame me and describe the time they got banned for bigotry or platform warring as something more noble instead of the nonsense it was. Because that's what usually happens in these situations.
Moving on, here we go.
1.The first group that should be embarrassed are the ones celebrating this. You lack empathy and use your ideology to justify it. What you're doing is known as "othering" and it's something you likely learned about in high school. Othering is when you take a group of people and separate them from the rest of society and use things like stereotypes in order to justify said othering. Usually, when someone others another person they use this to justify treating them as different, as separate, and somehow deserving of the bad things that happen to them. It's a way to justify feeling happy when shitty things happen to them. When this thread started everyone felt bad for the people missing, then when we found out one was rich that flipped around and people started celebrating even though that also means you're celebrating this same thing happening to the other victims. This is called being an asshole. Random people do not deserve horrible things happening to them, regardless of who they happened to be in a room with. By celebrating you are literally justifying the deaths of random people as "worth it" to kill this one guy. You can not care, that's fine. I don't care about all of this. I feel bad for the innocent people and don't care what happens to this guy, but a lot of you are straight up crossing the line even if you think you aren't. You know who you are because you feel attacked by this and you should because you're embarrassing yourselves. Be better people, it's not hard. Just don't be an asshole, you learn that as a kid but apparently people forget that lesson when they hit adulthood. Seriously, don't be a jerk.
2.The second group that should be embarrassed are the people who are derailing the thread by "tut tutting" the first group of people. You're making this thread about them instead of about the actual victims and we should all know better than that. By engaging in this behavior you are making the thread about yourself and the people you are attacking. When bad things happen to people we should be centering the victims, this is basic. This is the sort of thing that everyone with empathy intrinsically knows. By making it about yourselves and the meta discussion you take the focus away from those who have been hurt, killed, or put in danger. All of a sudden it's about you on your soapbox and you give space to the assholes in point one to make the thread about justifying their othering, thus making the problem worse. Derailing a thread like this will never make it any better, this is why I made a staff post telling people to knock it off. You should be embarrassed because you recognized the bad behavior and instead of ignoring it, reporting it, and keeping the focus on the victims you made the thread about the forum and the posters in this thread. Congratulations, you derailed the thread.
There is also a third group that did the right thing that has no need to be embarrassed because they did the right thing. They saw the thread was in a bad state, sent in some reports, and tried to keep the focus on the victims. Good job, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for not making the thread about you and trying to keep the focus where it belongs.
As you have probably noticed, I made a staff post earlier in this thread asking everyone to knock off the nonsense. Everyone decided that this did not apply to them and kept going. I happened to be at work and what do I find when I get home? Bullshit. Seriously, grow up, go outside and touch some grass. It wasn't a hard request, but apparently not being the center of attention or having basic humanity is hard. Who knew?
As such, I will be going through this thread and issuing bans to everyone who decided to ignore the staff post and a few of the ones before I made my post because holy shit guys. My suggestion is to take this as a learning opportunity, a moment to reflect on what has happened and grow as a person. We're all like that, nobody is perfect. Everyone will fuck up eventually. Take the opportunity, please, I beg you. It's not hard to actually care about people.
I love how he spends #2 looking down at the people tu-tutting the grave dancers, right after doing the EXACT SAME THING. Maybe if you're inept moderation team did something about it, you wouldn't have people feeling like they had to say something. But then, when your admin is saying, AFTER you made your post to say on topic:
Admin NepNep wrote:Quote:There's some degree of irony in rich people going down to tour a mass grave caused by incompetence and cut corners where the highest mortality rate was among the third class passengers, while in a submarine fueled by incompetence and cut corners
Tell me about it.
Still, sucks for the people on board because- assuming they didn't resurface- that is a shitty way to go.
Then what are people to think? Where's any fucking consistency?
If some of the victims of a genocide are terrible people, do I have to care about the genocide?
(06-20-2023, 10:07 PM)Daft Hand wrote: (06-20-2023, 09:44 PM)Boredfrom wrote: Palette_Swapp wrote:I’m really fucking happy the French government is lending resources to the search while they’re debating whether helping the thousands of people who drown every year in the Mediterranean Sea would create an “incentive” to immigration, and they should stop doing so.
You understand that their death is/was pretty horrible? Will you say this shit if there were random researchers?
There's something you have to understand about being extremely online - you gain a particular type of sociopathy that's like a more callous form of autism. When you mostly socialize through abstract, asymmetrical message boards you don't have the sobering influence of witnessing other peoples' reactions to what you're saying, like facial expressions or tone of voice. It's all just words on a screen, they're not real people anymore, only an output for your input. If you were to talk to somebody IRL and tell them that you don't care about those people who died on a submarine, they would be disgusted at you, and no matter how much of an edgelord you are your animal brain would be swayed and tempered by that reaction because a monkey who disrupts the social order gets no bananas. The internet allows that monkey to be a shameful little shit and still get bananas, so it becomes a fat and hateful monkey, unconcerned with its condition.
The internet not only allows it, but rewards that monkey with millions more bananas.
(06-20-2023, 10:18 PM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: B-Dubs, your forum is a toxic cesspit.
He knows
(06-20-2023, 11:24 PM)JoeBoy101 wrote: (06-20-2023, 10:30 PM)Greatness Gone wrote: we got a big one.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/titanic-tourist-sub-goes-missing-sparking-search.732486/page-20#post-107704113
Quote:I need to be completely honest here, this thread is fucking embarrassing and is embarrassing from two different positions that I will now outline. If you feel attacked by the rest of this post, I would ask you to reflect on this and ask yourself why and if maybe you should change your behavior or views in some way. That said, I doubt it happens and I expect a lot of angry tickets, reports, PMs, and general whining on whatever discord you're on where your buddies will tell you that you did nothing wrong and flame me and describe the time they got banned for bigotry or platform warring as something more noble instead of the nonsense it was. Because that's what usually happens in these situations.
Moving on, here we go.
1.The first group that should be embarrassed are the ones celebrating this. You lack empathy and use your ideology to justify it. What you're doing is known as "othering" and it's something you likely learned about in high school. Othering is when you take a group of people and separate them from the rest of society and use things like stereotypes in order to justify said othering. Usually, when someone others another person they use this to justify treating them as different, as separate, and somehow deserving of the bad things that happen to them. It's a way to justify feeling happy when shitty things happen to them. When this thread started everyone felt bad for the people missing, then when we found out one was rich that flipped around and people started celebrating even though that also means you're celebrating this same thing happening to the other victims. This is called being an asshole. Random people do not deserve horrible things happening to them, regardless of who they happened to be in a room with. By celebrating you are literally justifying the deaths of random people as "worth it" to kill this one guy. You can not care, that's fine. I don't care about all of this. I feel bad for the innocent people and don't care what happens to this guy, but a lot of you are straight up crossing the line even if you think you aren't. You know who you are because you feel attacked by this and you should because you're embarrassing yourselves. Be better people, it's not hard. Just don't be an asshole, you learn that as a kid but apparently people forget that lesson when they hit adulthood. Seriously, don't be a jerk.
2.The second group that should be embarrassed are the people who are derailing the thread by "tut tutting" the first group of people. You're making this thread about them instead of about the actual victims and we should all know better than that. By engaging in this behavior you are making the thread about yourself and the people you are attacking. When bad things happen to people we should be centering the victims, this is basic. This is the sort of thing that everyone with empathy intrinsically knows. By making it about yourselves and the meta discussion you take the focus away from those who have been hurt, killed, or put in danger. All of a sudden it's about you on your soapbox and you give space to the assholes in point one to make the thread about justifying their othering, thus making the problem worse. Derailing a thread like this will never make it any better, this is why I made a staff post telling people to knock it off. You should be embarrassed because you recognized the bad behavior and instead of ignoring it, reporting it, and keeping the focus on the victims you made the thread about the forum and the posters in this thread. Congratulations, you derailed the thread.
There is also a third group that did the right thing that has no need to be embarrassed because they did the right thing. They saw the thread was in a bad state, sent in some reports, and tried to keep the focus on the victims. Good job, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for not making the thread about you and trying to keep the focus where it belongs.
As you have probably noticed, I made a staff post earlier in this thread asking everyone to knock off the nonsense. Everyone decided that this did not apply to them and kept going. I happened to be at work and what do I find when I get home? Bullshit. Seriously, grow up, go outside and touch some grass. It wasn't a hard request, but apparently not being the center of attention or having basic humanity is hard. Who knew?
As such, I will be going through this thread and issuing bans to everyone who decided to ignore the staff post and a few of the ones before I made my post because holy shit guys. My suggestion is to take this as a learning opportunity, a moment to reflect on what has happened and grow as a person. We're all like that, nobody is perfect. Everyone will fuck up eventually. Take the opportunity, please, I beg you. It's not hard to actually care about people.
I love how he spends #2 looking down at the people tu-tutting the grave dancers, right after doing the EXACT SAME THING. Maybe if you're inept moderation team did something about it, you wouldn't have people feeling like they had to say something. But then, when your admin is saying, AFTER you made your post to say on topic:
Admin NepNep wrote:Quote:There's some degree of irony in rich people going down to tour a mass grave caused by incompetence and cut corners where the highest mortality rate was among the third class passengers, while in a submarine fueled by incompetence and cut corners
Tell me about it.
Still, sucks for the people on board because- assuming they didn't resurface- that is a shitty way to go.
Then what are people to think? Where's any fucking consistency?
If B-Dumbs was in control of the forum he would demod NepNep and make an example of her.
The fact remains that if he did that, the mental patients in the asylum would revolt and he wouldn't have an unpaid forum general manager role anymore.
Nep has him by the balls and he knows it.
Useless fuck.
I honestly just think he is just a dumb ass that doesn’t understand that Nephente is one of the reason why the ERA is shit.
Look at the Reddit thread and see how many people there have contempt for the regular users of that site. Not only I bet a lot of them are mods there but that is the same cognitive dissonance that mades B-Dumbs think that Mods don’t need to follow rules or that being pricks doesn’t matter.
Cheering for and laughing at slow and terrifying death of 5 people, including a father who may have got to watch his teenage son die, because one of the passengers was unfathomably rich.
Ree yesterday - 30fps is fine. Nobody cares about 60fps. Most can't even tell the difference.
Ree today - Ohmagawwd F76 got a 60fps upgrade. Hype! F76 is saved!!!
The absolute state of them
https://www.resetera.com/threads/fallout-76-now-runs-at-60-fps-and-got-a-resolution-quality-bump-on-ps5-and-x-s-by-default.733191/
06-21-2023, 01:24 AM
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One for you Benji
The legal brains trust at Reeeeesetera is on the case
Quote:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/titanic-tourist-sub-goes-missing-sparking-search.732486/post-107710956 wrote:The families may not be successful in sueing the company as the clients signed wavers agreeing that it was an experimental vessel, but couldn’t be this journalist sued for not exposing the risks when he could (guilty as accomplice)?
06-21-2023, 01:29 AM
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06-21-2023, 01:38 AM
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B-Dumbs: "Yep, all those 3 day bans will really show those people."
Also B-Dumbs:
Meanwhile...
Uncle_at_Nintendo wrote:Why the fuck would you get on a submarine just to see a 100 year old scrapyard.
Why the fuck would you get on a submarine.
“Why the fuck you get on a plane just to see 2000 years old collapse buildings.”
06-21-2023, 01:51 AM
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Meant to hit edit, not reply
https://www.resetera.com/threads/titanic-tourist-sub-goes-missing-sparking-search.732486/page-23#post-107712921
Quote: User banned (3 days): Ignoring staff posts
Ethical Hedonism wrote:Darwin Awards getting a lot of competition
Was a week but reduced to 3 days.
06-21-2023, 02:09 AM
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(06-20-2023, 09:52 AM)Taco Bell Tower wrote: https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/14bhz4p/from_hobby_to_forced_labour_reddits_unyielding/
A jannie being forced into labor  What's the "forced" part?
"I volunteer to do this thing."
"Okay, do the thing rather than shut everything down or we'll find someone else to do the thing."
"THIS IS FORCED LABOR"
Bowl0l wrote:When rich people activities goes wrong, who's paying for their search and rescue?
Not banned.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/titanic-tourist-sub-goes-missing-sparking-search.732486/page-23#post-107713401
Leo wrote:samoscratch wrote:I'm definitely not an expert but at thousands of meters down it gets very cold I definitely don't think it's 40 F
If the sub wasn't insulated correctly it would probably be very cold in there. After a certain point, the deeper you go into the ocean it becomes hotter because you're getting closer to the Earth's crust
06-21-2023, 02:14 AM
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Hap Shaughnessy dateline='[url=tel:1687313510' wrote: 1687313510[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/titanic-tourist-sub-goes-missing-sparking-search.732486/page-23#post-107713401
Leo wrote:samoscratch wrote:I'm definitely not an expert but at thousands of meters down it gets very cold I definitely don't think it's 40 F
If the sub wasn't insulated correctly it would probably be very cold in there. After a certain point, the deeper you go into the ocean it becomes hotter because you're getting closer to the Earth's crust

Eh… dude… he just posted this:
https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/deep-sea-hydrothermal-vents/
(06-21-2023, 02:11 AM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/titanic-tourist-sub-goes-missing-sparking-search.732486/page-23#post-107713401
Leo wrote:samoscratch wrote:I'm definitely not an expert but at thousands of meters down it gets very cold I definitely don't think it's 40 F
If the sub wasn't insulated correctly it would probably be very cold in there. After a certain point, the deeper you go into the ocean it becomes hotter because you're getting closer to the Earth's crust

Oh my god. FFS, you don't HAVE to comment like you know everything, Leo. I mean at least leave the possibility that you are uneducated about the matter.
NOAA wrote:Therefore, the deep ocean (below about 200 meters depth) is cold, with an average temperature of only 4°C (39°F).
These guys might know what they are talking about, one would assume.
06-21-2023, 02:18 AM
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Unless you are actually in a vent, the temp is about 4°C.
Edit: What he said.
06-21-2023, 02:24 AM
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(06-20-2023, 06:35 PM)Kadayi wrote: On a scale of fucked to absolutely fucked how do you think they are faring? At what point do they start looking at the lunatics running the asylum at Era and decide enough is enough and either start capping some heads or look to sell? You're making a common obvious mistake. They don't care about ResetERA.com. They don't care about any of the assets they're gobbling up. There's one goal: aggregate all the user numbers and sell "the network" to idiots who will give them capital to buy more user numbers. It'll collapse eventually, especially when interest rates go up and capital needs to redirect to actual productive uses, but that's a problem for the investors.
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