Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[HaughtyFrank]

You know, they say "comics were always political" but I don't think they were this shit

[TylenolJones]

WWE Fans not happy in their concentration camp. 

Are we going to contain all NFL threads, including the Super Bowl, to a single thread because the league continues to employ domestic abusers and sex pests?

Making a single containment thread for this instead of just a containment thread for the Vince scandal seems like overkill and just isn't consistent with other actions on the site.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wwe-containment-thread-ot.815256/page-3?post=118940274#post-118940274

[Boredfrom]

Remember that Ultimate X-Men comic where a kid killed a whole town by accident (just awoken his powers) and Wolverine needed to kill him so people didn’t be more afraid of mutants that already are? 

Guys, do you understand why X-men anti discrimination premise is inherently flawed?

[Puffy Fucking Baby]

the wrestling threads were always full of the biggest retards on the site posting utter shit anyway back when i read them

[Boredfrom]

You know, they say "comics were always political" but I don't think they were this shit

They could be too on the nose.

I dunno if this a comedy comic that Slayven decided to post seriously for asspats or if the comics writers situation is going dire.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/larry-david-brutally-assaults-elmo-on-live-tv.811770/page-3?post=118514310#post-118514310

A lot of people with no moral compass really want to be victims because they see downtrodden people receiving sympathy, they go "hey, they have something I don't, I should take that for myself."

These people are also probably the ones for whom words are simply a tool that they can use to achieve an end, and so there's no reason to try to figure out the underlying reasoning because there is none. Those words are not expressing thoughts, they're imitating the forms of thoughts that others have expressed in order to steal the benefits that they believe those words have produced.

 

[Taco Bell Tower]

WWE Fans not happy in their concentration camp. 

Are we going to contain all NFL threads, including the Super Bowl, to a single thread because the league continues to employ domestic abusers and sex pests?

Making a single containment thread for this instead of just a containment thread for the Vince scandal seems like overkill and just isn't consistent with other actions on the site.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wwe-containment-thread-ot.815256/page-3?post=118940274#post-118940274

I don't understand why anyone would assume this any more than any other capitalist venture that is accused of all kinds of heinous stuff at the executive level over the years. Is the NFL still burying and ignoring evidence that they're brain damaging and even killing their players? Remember when Coca-Cola had armed guards in their South American bottling plants? Hell, is Ric Flair still working with AEW?

Vince is a piece of shit and has been for a long time, and I hope anyone who assisted with his reign of terror is excised like the tumor they are from the company. However, I've long since stopped trying to understand what gets the "no ethical consumption under capitalism "*shoulder shrug*" treatment, and what gets sequestered like toxic waste or disappeared completely.

[Boredfrom]

You know, they say "comics were always political" but I don't think they were this shit

You know, they say "comics were always political" but I don't think they were this shit

They could be too on the nose.

I dunno if this a comedy comic that Slayven decided to post seriously for asspats or if the comics writers situation is going dire.

Demoismasque answers the question:

It's a Marvel Unlimited series similar to a Webtoons comic called Marvel Voices Unlimited, a comic about marginalized people that covers queer people, black people, Hispanic people, indigenous people, Asian people, etc.

Usually written by people of said marginalized groups.

Ah, so is not comedic or in the main continuity, just very fucking stupid PSA. Is like that comic were a Uncle Ben look alike molested Peter Parker:

https://blogintomystery.com/2012/05/24/peter-parker-was-molested-as-a-boy-fact-i-got-misty-eyed-reading-this-fact-spider-man-and-power-pack/

This is the kind of stuff people will mock mercilessly years after the fact.

[books]

WWE stays winning after that pivot on the Thursday press conference. No amount of tut tut'ing and containment from admin can stop wrassling nerds. They're even more psychotic and unhinged than Trans era.

[kaleidoscopium]

Kanye ban incoming

I mean the site might as well just ban discussion of him at this point. This thread feels equally pointless imo.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kanye-invokes-the-wrath-of-the-prince-of-darkness.815412/?post=118946538#post-118946538

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/larry-david-brutally-assaults-elmo-on-live-tv.811770/page-2?post=118486131#post-118486131

So, this actually is kind of crazy lol. Rich white dude just walking around doing whatever the hell he wants.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/larry-david-brutally-assaults-elmo-on-live-tv.811770/page-2?post=118487493#post-118487493

Guess we needed this take to show up eventually

Because that's what happened. Guaranteed they didn't sanction him grabbing on their muppet like that.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/larry-david-brutally-assaults-elmo-on-live-tv.811770/page-3?post=118521642#post-118521642

Elmo is not a real person.

God forbid someone calls out asshole behavior because man is rich and famous lol

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/today-in-streaming-is-just-wonderful-sony-removing-permanent-titles-from-your-library.815364/
Another thread to encourage pirating.

Forever, but there are restrictions. FOH. You know what Sonys not doing? Coming to my home and breaking or stealing my disc movies.

From the source OP used

But soon, people who may have discarded or lost their physical media or lack a way to play DVDs and Blu-rays won't have a way to access the digital copies that they were entitled to through their physical copy purchase.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/larry-david-brutally-assaults-elmo-on-live-tv.811770/page-2?post=118486131#post-118486131

So, this actually is kind of crazy lol. Rich white dude just walking around doing whatever the hell he wants.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/larry-david-brutally-assaults-elmo-on-live-tv.811770/page-2?post=118487493#post-118487493

Guess we needed this take to show up eventually

Because that's what happened. Guaranteed they didn't sanction him grabbing on their muppet like that.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/larry-david-brutally-assaults-elmo-on-live-tv.811770/page-3?post=118521642#post-118521642

Elmo is not a real person.

God forbid someone calls out asshole behavior because man is rich and famous lol

Over a puppet 

[HaughtyFrank]

Ah, so is not comedic or in the main continuity, just very fucking stupid PSA. Is like that comic were a Uncle Ben look alike molested Peter Parker:

https://blogintomystery.com/2012/05/24/peter-parker-was-molested-as-a-boy-fact-i-got-misty-eyed-reading-this-fact-spider-man-and-power-pack/

This is the kind of stuff people will mock mercilessly years after the fact.

With that comic I can at least understand some purpose, warning kids about child molesters and wow, it even happens to your heroes. I doubt that it helped much but there's at least an idea.

That Slayven comic reads like someone had a Twitter fight with some random guy and then decided to dunk on him with a comic story.

[Boredfrom]

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/MarvelsVoices2022

Looks like a decent project even if the quality varies wildly given rotational teams. 

Oh, yeah. I forgot that Marvel made Ice Man gay and he was outed in the most shit way possible (“YOU GAY BOBBY”). Was a pretty cynical move by a comic company that somehow got praise even if it was done horribly. 

I’m of two minds when stuff like this happens, a good writer can make it work and make a point, while shit writing can make it offensive for fans and the demographic they try to pander. People always mention that this kind of stuff (retconning the  sexuality of comic characters) but people forget that it was done better in many cases and with less of the corporate cynicism (even if still was there in many cases).

[Potato]

Remember that Ultimate X-Men comic where a kid killed a whole town by accident (just awoken his powers) and Wolverine needed to kill him so people didn’t be more afraid of mutants that already are? 

Guys, do you understand why X-men anti discrimination premise is inherently flawed?

No, because most of us recognise that comics are generally more ridiculous than video games. Put down the comics and take up hard drugs or something. They're much more healthy for you.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/larry-david-brutally-assaults-elmo-on-live-tv.811770/page-3?post=118514310#post-118514310

A lot of people with no moral compass really want to be victims because they see downtrodden people receiving sympathy, they go "hey, they have something I don't, I should take that for myself."

These people are also probably the ones for whom words are simply a tool that they can use to achieve an end, and so there's no reason to try to figure out the underlying reasoning because there is none. Those words are not expressing thoughts, they're imitating the forms of thoughts that others have expressed in order to steal the benefits that they believe those words have produced.

 

Translation: This is MY grift. Fuck off and get your own.

[Uncle]

Ah, so is not comedic or in the main continuity, just very fucking stupid PSA. Is like that comic were a Uncle Ben look alike molested Peter Parker:
https://blogintomystery.com/2012/05/24/peter-parker-was-molested-as-a-boy-fact-i-got-misty-eyed-reading-this-fact-spider-man-and-power-pack/
This is the kind of stuff people will mock mercilessly years after the fact.

With that comic I can at least understand some purpose, warning kids about child molesters and wow, it even happens to your heroes. I doubt that it helped much but there's at least an idea.
That Slayven comic reads like someone had a Twitter fight with some random guy and then decided to dunk on him with a comic story.

that time dr. doom cried about 9/11

[Boredfrom]

Ah, so is not comedic or in the main continuity, just very fucking stupid PSA. Is like that comic were a Uncle Ben look alike molested Peter Parker:

https://blogintomystery.com/2012/05/24/peter-parker-was-molested-as-a-boy-fact-i-got-misty-eyed-reading-this-fact-spider-man-and-power-pack/

This is the kind of stuff people will mock mercilessly years after the fact.

With that comic I can at least understand some purpose, warning kids about child molesters and wow, it even happens to your heroes. I doubt that it helped much but there's at least an idea.

That Slayven comic reads like someone had a Twitter fight with some random guy and then decided to dunk on him with a comic story.

I heard that a lot of the younger writers in super hero comics are tumblerinas or twitter users with brain rot. I mean, is fair, everyone starts somewhere, but this shit is the stuff you saw posted in a random tumblr back in the day. Even if is an anthology series just to incite people to sub to Marvel Unlimited… dude, some standards pls.

Comicsgate is awful, but they are not wrong that comics are in a nosedive in question of writing (they just attack stuff from veterans and decent writers, and miss the actual shit stuff  )

[Nintex]

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/MarvelsVoices2022

Looks like a decent project even if the quality varies wildly given rotational teams. 

Oh, yeah. I forgot that Marvel made Ice Man gay and he was outed in the most shit way possible (“YOU GAY BOBBY”). Was a pretty cynical move by a comic company that somehow got praise even if it was done horribly. 

I’m of two minds when stuff like this happens, a good writer can make it work and make a point, while shit writing can make it offensive for fans and the demographic they try to pander. People always mention that this kind of stuff (retconning the  sexuality of comic characters) but people forget that it was done better in many cases and with less of the corporate cynicism (even if still was there in many cases).

[Boredfrom]

Remember that Ultimate X-Men comic where a kid killed a whole town by accident (just awoken his powers) and Wolverine needed to kill him so people didn’t be more afraid of mutants that already are? 

Guys, do you understand why X-men anti discrimination premise is inherently flawed?

No, because most of us recognise that comics are generally more ridiculous than video games. Put down the comics and take up hard drugs or something. They're much more healthy for you.

I mean, drugs are cheaper.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/larry-david-brutally-assaults-elmo-on-live-tv.811770/page-2?post=118486131#post-118486131

So, this actually is kind of crazy lol. Rich white dude just walking around doing whatever the hell he wants.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/larry-david-brutally-assaults-elmo-on-live-tv.811770/page-2?post=118487493#post-118487493

Guess we needed this take to show up eventually

Because that's what happened. Guaranteed they didn't sanction him grabbing on their muppet like that.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/larry-david-brutally-assaults-elmo-on-live-tv.811770/page-3?post=118521642#post-118521642

Elmo is not a real person.

God forbid someone calls out asshole behavior because man is rich and famous lol

Has a username ever checked out more than this one checks out?

Big Baybee

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://fandompulse.com/2024/02/09/star-treks-wil-wheaton-makes-unhinged-rant-against-larry-david-after-a-play-fight-with-elmo-on-the-today-show/

“So I heard about Larry David assaulting Elmo on life television, but didn’t watch it until now, because I knew it would upset me.

“Holy shit it’s even worse than I thought. What the fuck is wrong with that guy? Elmo is, like, the best friend to multiple generations of children. In the Sesame Street universe, ELMO IS A CHILD, who is currently putting mental health and caring for others in the spotlight.

“And Larry Fucking David … did … that? And thought it was going to be … funny? What?

“What an asshole. What a stupid, self-centered, tone deaf asshole.

“Full disclosure: all the time, when I was growing up, my dad would grab me by the shoulders and shake me while he screamed in my face. He choked me more than once. He was always out of control, always in a furious rage, and always terrifying. I’m a 51 year-old man and my heart is pounding right now, recalling how I felt when I was a little boy who loved Grover the way today’s kids love Elmo.

“So this appalling, unforgivable, despicable act hits more than one raw nerve for me, and I’m going to say what I wish I’d been able to say when this sort of thing happened to me.

Larry David, this was not okay, and your obviously insincere “apology” clearly communicates that you don’t get that.

“First of all, you aren’t even in the segment, but you just decided to barge in and draw focus because … why? You couldn’t stand that a puppet brought people together in a meaningful way that you can’t? You couldn’t stand that your appearance on national television to promote your wildly successful series was delayed for a few seconds while the adults talked about mental health? You wanted to manufacture a viral moment where everyone gets to see what an asshole you are, so they’ll tune in and watch you portray an asshole in the last season of your show that celebrates how great it is to be an asshole without ever experiencing the consequences of being an asshole?

“I really want to know what raced through his tiny little mind, and why there was no voice or person who spoke up to stop him from expressing violence towards a children’s puppet WHO WAS THERE TO TALK ABOUT HOW HIS LOVE AND EMPATHY FOR PEOPLE HAVING A TOUGH TIME MATTERED AND MADE A DIFFERENCE.

“Elmo and his dad were there to talk about empathy, love, kindness, and caring for each other.

“Larry David was there to promote the final (thank god, maybe he’ll go away now) season of a television series.

“Like, read the room, dickhead. It isn’t always about you being the center of attention. And understand what’s happening in the moment, fucko. Understand that there are larger things in the world than you and your garbage ego.

“You know who is watching the Today show with their parents? Kids who also watch Sesame Street. Elmo is an avatar for children all over the world. Children who are too small to understand Elmo is a puppet will know that a man attacked someone they love for no reason, and that will frighten and confuse them.

“Elmo inspired a deeply meaningful and important moment of collective support among disparate people who have been struggling through the traumas of a pandemic, daily mass shootings, the rise of fascism and everything associated with Trump’s violence and cruelty.

“And shitty idiot Larry David couldn’t leave it alone, for some reason. He had to indirectly tell everyone who opened their hearts to a Muppet that they were stupid, and he thought it was a good joke to physically attack and choke this character who is beloved by children and adults alike. You know what that tells impressionable young people about sharing their feelings?

“Larry David strikes me as a person who mocks and belittles people who are vulnerable and sensitive, and enjoys being cruel, because he feels untouchable. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s who I see whenever I can’t find the remote and he’s on my television.

“By contrast, Elmo and the Muppets teach and model to children all over the world that kindness and empathy aren’t weak or stupid or any of the things people like Larry David and my dad think they are. Elmo and the Muppets teach children to be gentle and kind, to celebrate our different cultures and to embrace all of our complicated feelings. Elmo and the Muppets offer comfort and friendship and support to a world that is starving for it.

“I hope that, when the dust settles, Larry David’s appalling behavior will be a footnote to a larger story about how, for just one day, a Muppet made a difference and helped millions of people who are struggling to feel a little less alone. With one question, Elmo got lots and lots of people speaking openly and honestly about their mental health. A nontrivial number of people who none of us will ever know were inspired by it, and that was the last little nudge they needed to make the call or send the email to being healing. Elmo probably saved lives and relationships by opening that conversation.

“A man who would belittle and mock that isn’t much of a man at all. Shame on you, Larry David.”

https://www.resetera.com/threads/larry-david-brutally-assaults-elmo-on-live-tv.811770/page-5?post=118873515#post-118873515


 

[benji]

Holy shit tr*nny is word filtered 

It was requested and I had said I'd do them if amusing replacements could be come up with.

Pretty sure that the end to most extremism is meaningful work, a stable home life and actual connection with your community (the people from the place you live, not the mentally ill online cellmates you’ve siloed yourself off with), not banning stuff. The whole extremist angle becomes untenable because most people buy in to the monoculture. 

That would require each side to admit that the other has legitimate grievances though and that they aren’t just racists or snowflakes.

It'd also require them to admit that themselves are the one who might need to change rather than everyone else. And this is never acceptable.

I feel like a large percentage of Era would be perfectly fine with fascism if they were the fascists.

They pretty clearly are perfectly fine with fascism. They don't know what fascism was or is so they don't know they constantly endorse it, they think fascism is "bad stuff I don't like" or "right-wingers defined in any way" so they're free to pretend they aren't fascists and don't use all the same logic and premises as fascists.

The original fascists believed that any action was justified against the "failed state" of a non-fascist society because of the utopia that would follow. There was no moral requirement for fascists to follow the rules or laws of such a corrupt society, especially when they offered such a superior moral code. (They took this from Lenin btw.)

Kanye thread locked 

Making a thread about a bigot who downplayed slavery during Black History Month is a choice. Locked.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-college-dropout-was-released-20-years-ago-today.815331/page-2?post=118938453#post-118938453

Is she saying that it would have been fine had it not been Black History Month?

I dunno if this a comedy comic that Slayven decided to post seriously for asspats or if the comics writers situation is going dire.

There are a lot of terrible comic writers getting work just because of their identity. Thankfully, they rarely get anywhere because they're terrible writers in general and nobody gives a shit about their "inclusive" crap.

Not that regular writers don't have stupid political opinions, I just read a stupid Black Label book from Tom Taylor where he has Constantine expound at length how billionaires are scum who only harm everyone and he helps put a bunch of money stolen from the billionaires into everyone's bank accounts instead. We've seen this kind of garbage in comics forever. But Taylor, unlike most of these crap writers and like past decent writers, is at least self-aware enough to have Lucifer point out that a bunch of people getting a sudden injection of "free" cash is good for his business. (Which indicates to me that it's possible to explain to Taylor why such acts are bad for everyone since he seems to grasp part of the logic.)

Ham-fisted politics in fiction isn't anything new, ham-fisted politics where the writer can't even comprehend that other people disagree in good faith isn't new either but it had rarely been platformed by major corporations before because such people are typically bad writers in general, especially in writing believable characters, and the audience for such terrible writing wasn't large enough. Now there's a hypothetical fanbase you can claim will buy this stuff, the problem is they don't. So there's lots of "tests" with these people and you often never hear from them again. 

The funnier thing is when good writers of color keep being given only "ethnic" characters to write, and everybody thinks this is progress.

[Potato]

Ah, so is not comedic or in the main continuity, just very fucking stupid PSA. Is like that comic were a Uncle Ben look alike molested Peter Parker:

https://blogintomystery.com/2012/05/24/peter-parker-was-molested-as-a-boy-fact-i-got-misty-eyed-reading-this-fact-spider-man-and-power-pack/

This is the kind of stuff people will mock mercilessly years after the fact.

With that comic I can at least understand some purpose, warning kids about child molesters and wow, it even happens to your heroes. I doubt that it helped much but there's at least an idea.

That Slayven comic reads like someone had a Twitter fight with some random guy and then decided to dunk on him with a comic story.

Did you see who wrote it?

https://girlgod.komi.io/

[benji]

Did you see who wrote it?

https://girlgod.komi.io/

]https://images.komi.io/production/photos/SRXyXMcblTIvqLxk2cMB4.png

Oh, these two women have been featured on The Bire and elsewhere before. The larger woman claimed to have been violently attacked by a mob of TERFs or something once. They also got hired for writers for something else.

Their stand-up is only marginally funnier than Hannah Gadsby. It's mostly about how awesome lesbians are.

[HardcoreRetro]

Eh, I liked Gadsby's rape jokes. Made me laugh pretty hard.

[Potato]

Did you see who wrote it?

https://girlgod.komi.io/

]https://images.komi.io/production/photos/SRXyXMcblTIvqLxk2cMB4.png

Oh, these two women have been featured on The Bire and elsewhere before. The larger woman claimed to have been violently attacked by a mob of TERFs or something once. They also got hired for writers for something else.

Their stand-up is only marginally funnier than Hannah Gadsby. It's mostly about how awesome lesbians are.

Cool, I like lesbians too. Maybe I should check them out.

[Uncle]

https://fandompulse.com/2024/02/09/star-treks-wil-wheaton-makes-unhinged-rant-against-larry-david-after-a-play-fight-with-elmo-on-the-today-show/

“So I heard about Larry David assaulting Elmo on life television, but didn’t watch it until now, because I knew it would upset me.

“Holy shit it’s even worse than I thought. What the fuck is wrong with that guy? Elmo is, like, the best friend to multiple generations of children. In the Sesame Street universe, ELMO IS A CHILD, who is currently putting mental health and caring for others in the spotlight.

“And Larry Fucking David … did … that? And thought it was going to be … funny? What?

“What an asshole. What a stupid, self-centered, tone deaf asshole.

“Full disclosure: all the time, when I was growing up, my dad would grab me by the shoulders and shake me while he screamed in my face. He choked me more than once. He was always out of control, always in a furious rage, and always terrifying. I’m a 51 year-old man and my heart is pounding right now, recalling how I felt when I was a little boy who loved Grover the way today’s kids love Elmo.

“So this appalling, unforgivable, despicable act hits more than one raw nerve for me, and I’m going to say what I wish I’d been able to say when this sort of thing happened to me.

Larry David, this was not okay, and your obviously insincere “apology” clearly communicates that you don’t get that.

“First of all, you aren’t even in the segment, but you just decided to barge in and draw focus because … why? You couldn’t stand that a puppet brought people together in a meaningful way that you can’t? You couldn’t stand that your appearance on national television to promote your wildly successful series was delayed for a few seconds while the adults talked about mental health? You wanted to manufacture a viral moment where everyone gets to see what an asshole you are, so they’ll tune in and watch you portray an asshole in the last season of your show that celebrates how great it is to be an asshole without ever experiencing the consequences of being an asshole?

“I really want to know what raced through his tiny little mind, and why there was no voice or person who spoke up to stop him from expressing violence towards a children’s puppet WHO WAS THERE TO TALK ABOUT HOW HIS LOVE AND EMPATHY FOR PEOPLE HAVING A TOUGH TIME MATTERED AND MADE A DIFFERENCE.

“Elmo and his dad were there to talk about empathy, love, kindness, and caring for each other.

“Larry David was there to promote the final (thank god, maybe he’ll go away now) season of a television series.

“Like, read the room, dickhead. It isn’t always about you being the center of attention. And understand what’s happening in the moment, fucko. Understand that there are larger things in the world than you and your garbage ego.

“You know who is watching the Today show with their parents? Kids who also watch Sesame Street. Elmo is an avatar for children all over the world. Children who are too small to understand Elmo is a puppet will know that a man attacked someone they love for no reason, and that will frighten and confuse them.

“Elmo inspired a deeply meaningful and important moment of collective support among disparate people who have been struggling through the traumas of a pandemic, daily mass shootings, the rise of fascism and everything associated with Trump’s violence and cruelty.

“And shitty idiot Larry David couldn’t leave it alone, for some reason. He had to indirectly tell everyone who opened their hearts to a Muppet that they were stupid, and he thought it was a good joke to physically attack and choke this character who is beloved by children and adults alike. You know what that tells impressionable young people about sharing their feelings?

“Larry David strikes me as a person who mocks and belittles people who are vulnerable and sensitive, and enjoys being cruel, because he feels untouchable. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s who I see whenever I can’t find the remote and he’s on my television.

“By contrast, Elmo and the Muppets teach and model to children all over the world that kindness and empathy aren’t weak or stupid or any of the things people like Larry David and my dad think they are. Elmo and the Muppets teach children to be gentle and kind, to celebrate our different cultures and to embrace all of our complicated feelings. Elmo and the Muppets offer comfort and friendship and support to a world that is starving for it.

“I hope that, when the dust settles, Larry David’s appalling behavior will be a footnote to a larger story about how, for just one day, a Muppet made a difference and helped millions of people who are struggling to feel a little less alone. With one question, Elmo got lots and lots of people speaking openly and honestly about their mental health. A nontrivial number of people who none of us will ever know were inspired by it, and that was the last little nudge they needed to make the call or send the email to being healing. Elmo probably saved lives and relationships by opening that conversation.

“A man who would belittle and mock that isn’t much of a man at all. Shame on you, Larry David.”

https://www.resetera.com/threads/larry-david-brutally-assaults-elmo-on-live-tv.811770/page-5?post=118873515#post-118873515


 

elmo is 44 years old

seems like a hell of a loophole that declaring a character to be young means you can never express any annoyance or anger toward them

[benji]

Cool, I like lesbians too. Maybe I should check them out.

I was going to post some of their show if I could find it but I think you'd far more enjoy them on a morning show from a couple months ago that was at the top of YouTube results: