Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Polident]

It's insane that everyone lets this stupid piece of shit get away with saying that the people of Afghanistan, Congo, Haiti or even Palestine are "choosing" to "oppose the West" so they can have "autonomy" when thugs like the Taliban or Hamas or Kabila take power in these places.

There was that one week where they were saying Save Afghan Women.

From who, fellas?

[Besticus Maximus]

It's insane that everyone lets this stupid piece of shit get away with saying that the people of Afghanistan, Congo, Haiti or even Palestine are "choosing" to "oppose the West" so they can have "autonomy" when thugs like the Taliban or Hamas or Kabila take power in these places.

There was that one week where they were saying Save Afghan Women.

From who, fellas?

Princess Bubblegum

[benji]

It's insane that everyone lets this stupid piece of shit get away with saying that the people of Afghanistan, Congo, Haiti or even Palestine are "choosing" to "oppose the West" so they can have "autonomy" when thugs like the Taliban or Hamas or Kabila take power in these places.

There was that one week where they were saying Save Afghan Women.

From who, fellas?

Well, obviously, to begin with: capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy.

[Polident]

It's insane that everyone lets this stupid piece of shit get away with saying that the people of Afghanistan, Congo, Haiti or even Palestine are "choosing" to "oppose the West" so they can have "autonomy" when thugs like the Taliban or Hamas or Kabila take power in these places.

There was that one week where they were saying Save Afghan Women.

From who, fellas?

Well, obviously, to begin with: capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy.

The other week there was a story of an Afghan man throwing acid at a woman and her child. This is in the UK. 

Crazy how British invented scarring women with toxic chemicals for refusing advances from men, introduced it to cultures in Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc and consequently forgot to teach their own culture this practice. Weird. But now it’s payback! F around and find out! It’s true most of the victims are Muslim women, but

[Snoopy]

Ponies Assemble!

As I said before more people are buying consoles for 3rd party games and not 1st party ones. 1st party games help but FIFA, NBA, CoD, Fortnite... is what people play the most.

 

Holy fuck. The absolute state of these console warriors.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-confirmed-to-have-no-plan-to-release-a-major-franchise-titles-next-fy-april-2024-march-2025.816684/

[HaughtyFrank]

Ponies Assemble!

As I said before more people are buying consoles for 3rd party games and not 1st party ones. 1st party games help but FIFA, NBA, CoD, Fortnite... is what people play the most.

 

Holy fuck. The absolute state of these console warriors.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-confirmed-to-have-no-plan-to-release-a-major-franchise-titles-next-fy-april-2024-march-2025.816684/

Love how Stellar Blade is suddenly a very important release to them 

[Eric Cartman]

Honestly I really don't mind shows like Bridgerton too much that just throw any accuracy out of the window and dress it up like a modern show but I worry that clowns like people on RE start thinking that's actually an accurate portrayal.

It's one thing to rely on your own personal truthiness and ignore the facts, but then people start getting aggressively ignorant in their pursuit of rejecting reality and substituting their own, and its also aggressively solipsistic based on like, the small neighbourhood they live in being a 1 : 1 microcosm of all human existence and experience.
Then getting double big mad when reality as it is keeps handing them big L's.

Case in point:

I mean, I could've told you this with Ukraine. I've never seen politicians move that fast to deliver support to a people who were unambiguously the victims of an invasive campaign of terror, so it naturally begged the question: are you going to deliver aid (well really, owed money) to places like the Congo, or Haiti, or Afghanistan? Are you going to do, like, anything helpful for Indigenous people?

Of course not. Because these groups' autonomy depends upon opposing the West, and we can't have that.

At best, liberalism can be said that all it wants to do is bring minorities into the fold of neoliberal capitalism, because the problems it diagnoses is that non-white folks, women, and queer folks just simply aren't allowed full participation in systems of oppression like straight white men are. However, liberals believe these systems of Western imperialistic hegemony are good and just in and of themselves, so they don't actually promise true freedom and autonomy. Your ability to thrive as a minority under liberalism comes with an asterisk if it butts up against Western order. Hence the contradictions that just keep occurring.

So of course Ukraine got a fuckload of support; it is in the West's interests to oppose Russian expansion. However, fuck the Palestinians. Israel is the last major bastion of settler colonialism in the region and we will be damned if some fucking dead kids get in the way of that.

So I don't trust liberal leaders as far as I can throw them because I am fully aware of my expendability as a Black person whose condition is the way it is primarily because of centuries of continued Western pilfering of my home continent. They can't even come out and say "we oppose genocide" and not be hypocritical. So what fucking good are they?

:wat

[Eric Cartman]

It's insane that everyone lets this stupid piece of shit get away with saying that the people of Afghanistan, Congo, Haiti or even Palestine are "choosing" to "oppose the West" so they can have "autonomy" when thugs like the Taliban or Hamas or Kabila take power in these places.

Uhhhhh are you implying that 3 whole mods get it wrong when a thin skinned power tripping moron demands people get banned for questioning their truth?

[Eric Cartman]

I can't figure out if Nepenthe is FOR or AGAINST the afghani mujahideen

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

just kidding, shes never heard of them because it didn't happen recently

[Besticus Maximus]

It's much easier and simpler to disregard every line of shite she writes as being the ravings of an ethno-nationalist eejit

[Eric Cartman]

Seriously. Nothing will ever satisfy them. Children here can't go on puberty blockers and then face a 18-20 year wait time for hormones when they turn 18. Can't reliably socially transition in some schools either. Your career paths ahead of you are narrowing each year. Zero point taking an interest in professional sports if you're a trans woman, with a permanent reinforcement to never do too well in life for fear of being hated nationally and having whatever it was you accomplished barred from every single other trans woman moving forward.

Nah not enough though, got to mock the very existence of trans women and girls in the presence of a mother whose trans daughter was murdered.

Even if you believe this single issue thing that is the most important aspect of your entire personality and you have always known to be true and the only thing that will prevent from becoming An Hero (but obviously you don't want to pay any of your own money and want it all on the tax payers bill) being the only avenue, it doesn't take 18-20 years to get a medical diagnosis jfc, even without all the 'helpful' coaching of extremely online types telling you exactly what to say and what to omit to get the end result you want not the medical advice you need.

[Besticus Maximus]

Can't be a paedo if nobody goes through puberty 

[benji]

Your career paths ahead of you are narrowing each year. Zero point taking an interest in professional sports if you're a trans woman, with a permanent reinforcement to never do too well in life for fear of being hated nationally and having whatever it was you accomplished barred from every single other trans woman moving forward.

I like the phrasing in this, like you can just "take an interest" in professional sports and have a career path just from the interest in doing it.

Sort of like Rachel McKinnion/Veronica Ivy and other "professional" trans women athletes I guess.

Also like how the "fear of being hated nationally" is the danger here.

[Polident]

In this hypothetical perfect storm of events that lead to a trans person getting into sports young, the stigma against them is entirely driven by the intense defense of 30 year old 6’3” men painting their nails and spear tackling 5’6” ladies. The whole discourse was poisoned by them for ignoring the transparent opportunists.

[Besticus Maximus]

Self described weak and effeminate Kyuuji really was robbed of an Olympic career by not being able to bully little girls

[kaleidoscopium]

The kingdom come deliverance thread kept going! 

This game might the biggest example I can point to if I want to show that I personally have abstained from purchasing a game as a form of protest. I'd be all over a non-fantasy medieval game with a focus on historical accuracy and I'm pretty sure that I was hyped for this when I first heard about it, and I still haven't bought it to this day.

I barely buy any Ubisoft games either - I think the last one was the rerelease of Scott Pilgrim since I plumb forgot that it was an Ubisoft - but I also rarely have an interest in buying Ubisoft titles, so it's hard to really claim that I made much of a stand by not buying those.

Every time with this game and others like it.

People bend over backwards to justify why they're OK putting money directly into the pocket of a bigot. If your justifications to being reminded that you're ignoring that you're creating wealth for an open and avowed racist/sexist by buying their product is statements like:
"Other, more notable people also like the product"
"The product is just so good that I don't mind funding the bigot"
"The bigotry makes sense for the setting of the game"
"The bigot employs other people who probably aren't bigoted and you're a bad person for not thinking of those poor non-bigoted employees."
"I can ignore the bigotry of their views because I don't see how it impacts the final product"
"I'll side-step the issue and talk about the awesome features of the bigot's product like I'm a marketer"
"Actually you're bad for pointing out the bigotry and making me think about it for a split second"
...then, yes, people are going to give you the side-eye or react poorly because you're appearing to show a distinct lack of self-reflection or just basic decency. In a time when many, many non-white marginalized folks are under attack in the real world, it would be good if that shittiness didn't spread even further into games and games like this didn't get a free pass because they "authentically" show the life of medieval apprentice or whatever else.

I have this game for free on the Epic Store and knowing who the director is, I have refused to play it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-has-surpassed-6-million-copies-sold.816321/page-4?post=119126166#post-119126166

Too much to quote but a poor German gamer got ran off the site for daring to enjoy the game too. Then one of the jackasses gloated about him leaving, pretty shameful behavior that would get you actioned on a different games topic.

[Yulwei v2]

Do I even want to ask what in the fuck happened? Forum splits. Reminds me of 2000s Something Awful   

Anyways, Sonyponies spent the last week going nuts over Microsoft going third party and then today Sony's new CEO dropped them bomb on them 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-president-wants-to-improve-margins-with-multi-platform-release.816735/



The cope wars have begun

[Polident]

Even if the game actually was the schizophrenic white supremacy simulation they lie about it being, who cares? It’s a relatively small studio making a relatively small game in a landscape where 99.9% of other media fits their vague criteria. They have that abusive mindset of wanting to exert total control over others. What’s that shitty comic people always post? Let people like things

[kaleidoscopium]

The game is amazing and I don't really see how Vavra's views impacted it. Simple as that. Not really interested in not enjoying a great game just for the sake of imaginary internet points for saying "fuck this", "fuck that...", "glad I never played it!!", "if you've played KCD you're the reicarnation of Hitler!"

…

Honestly, you should continue to talk about KCD. Some people here will do anything to silence you and attack you for just liking a game. This is the reason people outside Era treats this place as a joke. It's just too comical how some users here behave.

Focus on the game and use the ignore button on those that love to derail the thread. Works wonders.

I was just thinking about this yesterday. Some of the takes here about people who enjoy these games are so extreme that it's actually funny. I love this place, but I can't really argue when I see how it's talked about elsewhere. And not just Gaf.

The massive success of these games show how small the Era bubble is, though. The millions of people who have played K:CD, HL, or Cyberpunk, are not all Nazis or anti-trans, or whatever else. People just want to play fun games. That's all.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-has-surpassed-6-million-copies-sold.816321/page-4?post=119133726#post-119133726

[Potato]

I can't figure out if Nepenthe is FOR or AGAINST the afghani mujahideen

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

just kidding, shes never heard of them because it didn't happen recently

Did a YouTuber post a 4 hour video online about it?

[Straight Edge]

How is punkSxE not banned yet? I’ll pour one out for a straight edge homie.

[kaleidoscopium]

Give it time, the mods will ban him in a few days once it’s died down

[HaughtyFrank]

Unless the game is on the actual ban list (and it isn't, last I saw, and the policy about Kingdom Come thread was that you were allowed to criticize the dev but you were also allowed to discuss the game without being antagonized), coming in this thread to hassle folks as to why they play this game made by a bigot, why do they ignore posts about Vavra, etc etc. feels quite frankly like a form of bullying and maybe even ban-baiting.

Vavra is a piece of shit and it's fine to repeat this in every thread. Really, it is. Please continue doing it, and I sincerely mean that. That guy doesn't deserve a single cent in my opinion.

But holy shit, painting folks who played the game as uncaring stealth bigots and aggressively demanding why they won't follow the same personal boycott, and making inflammatory comments about them, and then going "lol bye" when they don't want to talk to you (all of which happened in this thread), is really asinine and doesn't make you morally superior, it just makes you a terminally online bully.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-has-surpassed-6-million-copies-sold.816321/post-119138922

Are pigs flying? Morrigan with a good take?

I guess as metal fan she's all too familiar with problematic creators

[JoeBoy101]

Unless the game is on the actual ban list (and it isn't, last I saw, and the policy about Kingdom Come thread was that you were allowed to criticize the dev but you were also allowed to discuss the game without being antagonized), coming in this thread to hassle folks as to why they play this game made by a bigot, why do they ignore posts about Vavra, etc etc. feels quite frankly like a form of bullying and maybe even ban-baiting.

Vavra is a piece of shit and it's fine to repeat this in every thread. Really, it is. Please continue doing it, and I sincerely mean that. That guy doesn't deserve a single cent in my opinion.

But holy shit, painting folks who played the game as uncaring stealth bigots and aggressively demanding why they won't follow the same personal boycott, and making inflammatory comments about them, and then going "lol bye" when they don't want to talk to you (all of which happened in this thread), is really asinine and doesn't make you morally superior, it just makes you a terminally online bully.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-has-surpassed-6-million-copies-sold.816321/post-119138922

Are pigs flying? Morrigan with a good take?

I guess as metal fan she's all too familiar with problematic creators

Thought the same thing when reading. Broken clock, twice a day, but I’ll give her credit on this one for sure.

But Morrigan…

coming in this thread to hassle folks as to why they play this game made by a bigot, why do they ignore posts about Vavra, etc etc. feels quite frankly like a form of bullying and maybe even ban-baiting.

This is the strategy of all sorts of groups on that board, and it’s rewarded and embraced by the mods even as they prop up care posts about how BAD it is and how TOXIC it is.

[kaleidoscopium]

So you are comparing two settings: Nazi Germany and Bohemia Kingdom, one committing the holocaust, while the other was under foreign invasion, and you say they are comparable? Do you know anything about the history of the Czechia people, about their centuries old struggle for automacy? Sure they could've picked another time period in Czechia history for a videogame. How about that time during Thirty Year War when multiple foreign armies ravaged their land and destroyed half the population? How about the time they were ruled by the Habsburg? Or the time they were occupied by Nazi Germany? Or Spring of Prague? I wonder if any of those time periods has more PoC involved?

Czechia people made a game about Czechia history. You don't get to tell them they picked the wrong time or place. That is the crux of the matter.

See this is exactly what I point at.
The point of this game is political in nature, they chose this specific period for a reason.
It just so happen that their vision of Czech purity which they long for is exclusive.
Again I'm not saying they should have devoted a whole village to include any other population, I'm saying that they didn't include any at all because they are pushing "the history of Czechia people" that excludes anything they define as non-Czech.

[Besticus Maximus]

The unspoken thing here is of course that they have labeled the Czechs as whitey and therefore can say whatever the fuck they want with approval and empowerment from the worse racists left on the board, ie Nepenthe

Vavra might well be a shit heel, I suspect he's just enjoying winding these cunts up, or was before he realised he was gambling the company on a joke that the loudest wankers on the internet were incapable of getting.

[kaleidoscopium]

I mean from what I've read here there's no Jewish people in this game so...
And considering Vavra's inclination I wouldn't exclude antisemitism from his list of bigotries,
shit like that come in bundles you know

He could just… google it… 

https://kingdom-come-deliverance.fandom.com/wiki/Jews

The creator is also Jewish himself. 

[Orange Juice Box]

It's insane that everyone lets this stupid piece of shit get away with saying that the people of Afghanistan, Congo, Haiti or even Palestine are "choosing" to "oppose the West" so they can have "autonomy" when thugs like the Taliban or Hamas or Kabila take power in these places.

They sent Rambo AND. James bond to afg. Picture of rambo here

[Taco Bell Tower]

Ponies Assemble!

As I said before more people are buying consoles for 3rd party games and not 1st party ones. 1st party games help but FIFA, NBA, CoD, Fortnite... is what people play the most.

 

Holy fuck. The absolute state of these console warriors.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-confirmed-to-have-no-plan-to-release-a-major-franchise-titles-next-fy-april-2024-march-2025.816684/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-ps5-entering-latter-stage-of-its-life-cycle-expects-hardware-sales-pace-to-start-falling-from-next-fiscal-year.816702/

[Puffy Fucking Baby]

Why are they rehashing fucking kingdom come chat again. The games about 10 years old and sux anyway