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[Boredfrom]

Plenty of people disagree with it because the United States is currently allowing the Palestinian genocide to happen, and a significant contingent of American citizens openly support Israel's committance of that genocide.

My point however is to make sure that Aaron's statement, both his words and his act, are not lost or whitewashed. By his own words, he did not do this as a depressive cry for help.

He had a wife and a child. It was totally a cry for help, you bitch. 

He did it to protest Western imperialism and the Palestinian genocide.

I want more people in this thread to openly say that instead of trying to railroad the discussion to be about whether or not he was mentally unwell (likely not) or whether or not his singular action will change the conflict (no singular action will.)

He shouted "Free Palestine" while literally on fire. The least we could all do from the comfort of our keyboards and phones is say the same.

Free Palestine.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/lakewood-church-shooting-motive-unknown-pro-palestinian-message/story?id=107158963

You want people to scream "Free Palestine" without judgement, fair enough, but I want you to let people discuss openly your legendary post about "The collective Nation of jewish people"

[Boredfrom]

I hope one day he is remembered by history properly.

I hope one day you became a congruent communist and stop watching shows for kids.

[kaleidoscopium]

Much of the discussion online I've seen about Aaron is directly related to the Palestinian genocide; people are directly noting the cause as to why he did this and making personal statements and art in response.

It's really only here that I've personally seen his protest completely hijacked and derailed to discuss mental health instead.

Twitter users.

Just type in Aaron Bushnell and there's far more mention about Palestine and Gaza than what can be mustered here by people who say they claim they care about minorities.

Yes, art about… a regard burning himself alive… truly incredible movement there nepenthe.

[Boredfrom]

How long until the first self immolation in support of the ongoing trans genocide?

Already happened:

https://variety.com/2018/gaming/news/chloe-sagal-death-1202858068/

(she was also mentally ill and didnt get help)

[books]

Why would Nepnep care what chuds are thinking on a chud-site like twitter?

[Boredfrom]

Absolutely fucking nobody has ever committed suicide specifically for a political purpose. That is inarguably not a thing that happens, by literal fucking definition. Any suggestion otherwise is fucking disgusting.

Era has always been total fucking dogshit on mental health. Since the day I got here, I have consistently felt as if I would literally be better off in the political hands of people who literally believe my illnesses do not exist. Not one single time have I been convinced that the overwhelming majority of those most vocal on Era view mental health as anything less than a fucking cudgel to give their preferred political issues ever so slightly more moral authority. Thrown under the bus at each and every possible chance, by users and by moderation that consistently hasn't ever given the slightest fucking shit. I will never forget the thread where someone claimed in the very first fucking post that mental illness is actually not a real illness and then went on for a full fucking thread repeatedly and aggressively brow beating people with stated mental illnesses they did not agree with. Moderation banned multiple people in this thread who interacted with this (iirc prominent) poster and didn't say a single goddamned word to a straight fucking troll allowed to go on for like twenty fucking pages.

A thread chock fucking full of total fucking assholes twisting themselves into pretzels to reframe something so blatantly fucking obvious isn't the slightest bit surprising. Seriously, go fuck yourselves. I'm done with this place.

And then:

RIP.

I think the best way to honor his memory would be to support the cause he was willing to sacrifice himself for instead of speculating on whether or not he was mentally ill.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Lot of weeb care posting going on ITT RN. Not feeling very safe...

As a bigtittyosexual, I understand how you feel. Exposure to all the anti-Tifa talk has really done a lot of mental damage.

[HaughtyFrank]

Plenty of people disagree with it because the United States is currently allowing the Palestinian genocide to happen, and a significant contingent of American citizens openly support Israel's committance of that genocide.

My point however is to make sure that Aaron's statement, both his words and his act, are not lost or whitewashed. By his own words, he did not do this as a depressive cry for help.

He had a wife and a child. It was totally a cry for help, you bitch. 

I think she completely misunderstands what people mean when they say a suicide attempt is a cry for help. Like people aren't literally crying for help while doing it. It's an implied cry for help

[Boredfrom]

That news dropped out of the cycle pretty quickly, dont think we even got a name.

Authorities deliberately did not release any details about who they were, and there was never any follow-up. We literally have no idea if this person even survived or not.

Imagine being BDumbs and being such a fucking pussy seeing how a moderator undermines you with every chance she gets.

[Uncle]

Lit yourself in fire seems to be an extreme way for not just killing yourself but protest about the involvement of the military industrial complex in the conflict. Again, for a forum that claims to be progressive they have a pretty archaic way of seeing martyrdom as a viable form of protest, specially since they are paranoid enough to believe the “Zionist cabal” is burying this act of “heroism”.

I remember the story of a trans person with nowhere else left to turn, homeless and cancelled by their own community for making the rest of them look bad, who lit themselves on fire as a final act of protest

it's said that their last words were "I didn't know it would hurt so much"

subsequently, their final act was co-opted for a different cause in the ongoing culture war and is now largely forgotten except as a statistic to be weaponized now and then

[railGUN]

Absolutely fucking nobody has ever committed suicide specifically for a political purpose. That is inarguably not a thing that happens, by literal fucking definition. Any suggestion otherwise is fucking disgusting.

Era has always been total fucking dogshit on mental health. Since the day I got here, I have consistently felt as if I would literally be better off in the political hands of people who literally believe my illnesses do not exist. Not one single time have I been convinced that the overwhelming majority of those most vocal on Era view mental health as anything less than a fucking cudgel to give their preferred political issues ever so slightly more moral authority. Thrown under the bus at each and every possible chance, by users and by moderation that consistently hasn't ever given the slightest fucking shit. I will never forget the thread where someone claimed in the very first fucking post that mental illness is actually not a real illness and then went on for a full fucking thread repeatedly and aggressively brow beating people with stated mental illnesses they did not agree with. Moderation banned multiple people in this thread who interacted with this (iirc prominent) poster and didn't say a single goddamned word to a straight fucking troll allowed to go on for like twenty fucking pages.

A thread chock fucking full of total fucking assholes twisting themselves into pretzels to reframe something so blatantly fucking obvious isn't the slightest bit surprising. Seriously, go fuck yourselves. I'm done with this place.

[kaleidoscopium]

I want more people in this thread to openly say that instead of trying to railroad the discussion to be about whether or not he was mentally unwell (likely not) or

He just lit himself on fire… what is wrong with these peoples minds

[Uncle]

Absolutely fucking nobody has ever committed suicide specifically for a political purpose. That is inarguably not a thing that happens, by literal fucking definition. Any suggestion otherwise is fucking disgusting.

I will say, I believe this particular guy just had that much conviction, it was practically a ceremonial thing with a procession and everything

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%ADch_Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_%C4%90%E1%BB%A9c

[Boredfrom]

Again, this poster didnt get a warning or anybody calling them off.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/aaron-bushnell-us-airman-sets-himself-on-fire-in-protest-of-palestinian-genocide-outside-israeli-embassy.821301/page-2?post=119720661#post-119720661

[FEUER FREI.]

man with a wife and child has such strong political feelings that he will kill himself in the most painful and longest way possible to show his support, is not suffering from mental distress according to reeeeeeeeesetera.com

RIP, brother needed help, and you'll have sickos on resetera in the thread post free palestine like the sicko nepnep:

Plenty of people disagree with it because the United States is currently allowing the Palestinian genocide to happen, and a significant contingent of American citizens openly support Israel's committance of that genocide.



My point however is to make sure that Aaron's statement, both his words and his act, are not lost or whitewashed. By his own words, he did not do this as a depressive cry for help. He did it to protest Western imperialism and the Palestinian genocide.



I want more people in this thread to openly say that instead of trying to railroad the discussion to be about whether or not he was mentally unwell (likely not) or whether or not his singular action will change the conflict (no singular action will.)



He shouted "Free Palestine" while literally on fire. The least we could all do from the comfort of our keyboards and phones is say the same.



Free Palestine.

nepnep aka "collective nation of jewish people" is fucking demented

[HaughtyFrank]

Absolutely fucking nobody has ever committed suicide specifically for a political purpose. That is inarguably not a thing that happens, by literal fucking definition. Any suggestion otherwise is fucking disgusting.

I will say, I believe this particular guy just had that much conviction, it was practically a ceremonial thing with a procession and everything

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%ADch_Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_%C4%90%E1%BB%A9c

I think what's also crucial about those cases is that he, as a buddhist monk, he was directly suffering from what he was protesting, the persecution of buddhist monks. Some rando in the US, who has zero relation to anything happening in Gaza setting himself on fire just seems insane. Like he probably could do more good by sending his paychecks to gaza than burning himself

[HaughtyFrank]

The twitter discourse Nepenthe is so proud of:

[Polident]

Of the limited information out there, for some time the guy has struggled in transitioning to a software developer gig outside the government. Fell in with some communists, who had a history of suggesting somebody should self immolate in protest. In the lead up, they knew what he was going to do, and requested cameras to capture his act and preserve it. The comments from those who knew him refer to him as a “good comrade.” Those that don’t are debating whether or not “rest in power” is applicable for a white guy, as other sociopaths are gleeful they have a new martyr to exploit.

[Nintex]

I'm actually laughing at the nepnep posts, jesus christ

I think Aaron said what he wanted to say loud and clear, and he was far louder than the millions of people who have been protesting this already.

Yeah, I'm sure he was loud when he burned to death. 

I don't think the public's collective memory has any bearing on the fact that we are currently talking about Aaron Bushnell and not the millions of other people around the world who have simply marched or donated. This is not to say that marching and donating are useless. It is to simply say that he singlehandedly has gotten more attention for protesting the Palestinian genocide than most others who have tried.

And sort of giving subtle hints that yes, if you are a true ally you should burn yourself

Fell in with some communists, who had a history of suggesting somebody should self immolate in protest.

 RussianCommunistFriend89: I hear you bro, maybe you should burn yourself

If the general public will forget Aaron Bushnell, then may we who are paying attention make the choice to remember him, his action, and his words.

Press F

Much of the discussion online I've seen about Aaron is directly related to the Palestinian genocide; people are directly noting the cause as to why he did this and making personal statements and art in response.

It's really only here that I've personally seen his protest completely hijacked and derailed to discuss mental health instead.

 How dare you suggest that someone who sets himself on fire is mentally ill

[JoeBoy101]

I think Aaron said what he wanted to say loud and clear, and he was far louder than the millions of people who have been protesting this already.

If someone on this forum posted that they were going to do this, would your first reaction be to support them in their action or tell them to not commit suicide?

My first reaction would be to act in accordance with administrative procedure regarding open expressions of suicidal ideation. But I'm not sure what the question has to do with my post.

I also want to, once again, remind people that Aaron Bushnell deliberately sacrificed himself as a form of protest against the Palestinian genocide that Western countries, namely the US, have been allowing to happen.

That’s called getting your ass put in a corner, Neppy.

I’m so unbelievably not shocked by their behavior. They spent the better part of 10 years redefining the self harm and suicide of mentally ill people as not their own responsibility and nothing they need to change about themselves. For them, an act like this is the highest praise.

[Uncle]

Again, this poster didnt get a warning or anybody calling them off.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/aaron-bushnell-us-airman-sets-himself-on-fire-in-protest-of-palestinian-genocide-outside-israeli-embassy.821301/page-2?post=119720661#post-119720661

now square this rhetoric with "pills that trick your brain into thinking you're a woman (but you're not)"

[Nintex]

Authorities deliberately did not release any details about who they were, and there was never any follow-up. We literally have no idea if this person even survived or not.

Yup. I was waiting for more details and then completely forgot about it. I hope they survived.

His smoldering corpse is being claimed by the trans maffia 

[Nintex]

Another moderator arrives to the scene

So a man gives his life in form of protest to genocide, and some people's first instincts are:

- Say they shouldn't have done it, lecturing in the usefulness of the protest, very comfy while on a gaming forum
- Question their mental health, armchair diagnosis (as if being aware that thousands are dying, while the country you serve plays quite the part, isn't depressing enough)

If these type of protests gets forgotten and "don't work", its because of people like you.

RIP Aaron.

[Polident]

video game forum, btw

[Hap Shaughnessy]

[Boredfrom]

My first reaction would be to act in accordance with administrative procedure regarding open expressions of suicidal ideation.

Remember that this site hosts a webcomic from Nepenthe were she ends her diatribe with “if you don’t agree with me, KILL YOURSELF!”

So it wouldn’t be actually surprising if she didn’t see anything wrong with encouraging suicide.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/aaron-bushnell-us-airman-sets-himself-on-fire-in-protest-of-palestinian-genocide-outside-israeli-embassy.821301/post-119730111

[DocWager]

She once called people who did stupid things for political reasons “Useful idiots”. Her cult like attitude, and god complex have been shown before. She’s an extremely callous sociopath.

[Uncle]

Another moderator arrives to the scene

So a man gives his life in form of protest to genocide, and some people's first instincts are:

- Say they shouldn't have done it, lecturing in the usefulness of the protest, very comfy while on a gaming forum
- Question their mental health, armchair diagnosis (as if being aware that thousands are dying, while the country you serve plays quite the part, isn't depressing enough)

If these type of protests gets forgotten and "don't work", its because of people like you.

RIP Aaron.

what's an example of it "working?"

I'll give one:

Quảng Đức's act increased international pressure on Diệm and led him to announce reforms with the intention of mollifying the Buddhists. However, the promised reforms were not implemented, leading to a deterioration in the dispute. As protests continued, the ARVN Special Forces loyal to Diệm's brother, Ngô Đình Nhu, launched raids across South Vietnam on Buddhist pagodas, seizing Quảng Đức's heart and causing deaths and widespread damage. Several Buddhist monks followed Quảng Đức's example, also immolating themselves. Eventually, a US-backed coup toppled Diệm, who was assassinated on 2 November 1963.

so if this protest "doesn't work," the US will continue supporting Israel as they bomb Palestine, and era posters are directly responsible for this

I mean, are there literally any other measurements of success besides this?

bringing awareness to the cause, but again, not explicitly bringing about change or ceasefire? awareness is all you wanted to accomplish? then that WOULD be clear mental illness, killing yourself without even expecting to cause any real chage

[Boredfrom]

Another moderator arrives to the scene

So a man gives his life in form of protest to genocide, and some people's first instincts are:

- Say they shouldn't have done it, lecturing in the usefulness of the protest, very comfy while on a gaming forum
- Question their mental health, armchair diagnosis (as if being aware that thousands are dying, while the country you serve plays quite the part, isn't depressing enough)

If these type of protests gets forgotten and "don't work", its because of people like you.

RIP Aaron.

Oh, shit is Serpens007.A fucking Latin American communist. Those that defend dictatorships or that the populist authoritarian politician is totally going to change the country for the better, this time.