Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Besticus Maximus]

What if Hecht is the fella who only ever posts to tell us he's gone to Moba with whatever Nepenthe's said

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Guess who?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/did-and-plurality-in-video-games-reflecting-culture-and-progress-over-time-chonky-op.826698/

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“Can you talk again like a little girl?”

Looks like the thread was deleted or moved to members only. Wonder why. 

[JoeBoy101]

You know, Hecht... the furor has died down a sizable degree.

Thanks for sending it up again, I guess.

This isn't a good statement on this. In this case, you're saying the "correct" way to handle this would be for the poster alone to file an appeal, instead of listening to people rightfully offended by the horrific semantic debate that was impossible to ignore (as you cannot ignore a mod). A survivor of sexual assault opted to have their account deleted. On a practical level, the original person might not care to appeal it.

Yeah, and I stand by it. The person who made the post is the best person to explain their reasoning. Maybe it was sarcastic, maybe it was satire - sometimes we miss that because it's not obvious. Especially if said user is a member of a community here, I don't care what their "friends" or what-have-you say, because, most times it's just slurs thrown at us, and the rest of the time it's just assuming what the user meant. So yeah, having the banned user explain themselves makes the most sense, because they can best explain what the hell they were saying, or meant to say.

The assumption here is that we don't have members of staff who aren't also victims of sexual assault, or whatever variety of affliction might be applicable to the post at hand. We do. We are not oblivious, and we are very cognizant of any experiences that may be relevant. We're not gonna get it right all of the time, but we do have people that can relate to the issue at hand.

*WORST... Ah fuck it. Y'all know the drill at this point.

[Potato]

Us vs them. Always us vs them with these Muppets.

[Snoopy]

So our lolcows latest trend is pretending they're victims of doxxing. 



They're so desperate for any kind of attention that doxxing has become a status symbol for them.

[DocWager]

It’s like they are using it to distract from legitimate criticism. A very typical dictatorship approach. The fact that they never really answer for the things they’ve said, and immediately change the subject to alleged “doxxing” says it all.

[Straight Edge]

The past week of reee drama has left me too exhausted to post. Please send likes.

[HaughtyFrank]

With Hecht claiming he has an eye on all the bad sites it's fair to say they knew about Nepenthe's house a while ago but sat on that until it became a useful distraction

[Switters]

This is why the FBI taking down Gamergate 2 and Joanne is more important that ever.

Can't wait for ZeoVGM's take.

No, actually you can.

[Snoopy]

Jeff's been quiet recently. They must've upped his meds or restricted his access to the communal pc.


Sydney Sweeney Unfazed By ‘Madame Web’ Flop: ‘I Was Just Hired as an Actress in It. I Was Along for the Ride for Whatever Was Going to Happen’



https://variety.com/2024/film/news/sydney-sweeney-madame-web-flop-just-an-actress-1235941216/

[DocWager]

I would rather talk about Sweeney’s two original flops.

[kaleidoscopium]

Zyrtec has been one of my best friends on a daily basis for years now

It's the MVP, but have to be careful too much will zonk me out for a day

https://www.resetera.com/threads/as-a-georgia-resident-i-summon-the-great-warriors-loratadine-benadryl-and-zyrtec-to-defend-against-the-yellowish-demon-dust.826908/?post=120431832#post-120431832

It’s a single 10mg pill for adults per day… what the fuck is this guy talking about

[BIONIC]

The assumption here is that we don't have members of staff who aren't also victims of sexual assault, or whatever variety of affliction might be applicable to the post at hand. We do. We are not oblivious, and we are very cognizant of any experiences that may be relevant. We're not gonna get it right all of the time, but we do have people that can relate to the issue at hand.

So you have members of staff, for example, know people who were, or could have been, kidnapped into a hostile environment, held by an internationally illegal organization with no regard to human rights or conducts of war or visitation with any international organization including the Red Cross, and then sexually assaulted and tortured?

I do not think you are in fact cognizant of "any experiences", and I understand this presumptuousness is meant to be asserting assertiveness as a mod, but it truly shows that I don't think the staff understand why people were mad about the ban in the first place, and a defiance to the idea staff are or could be wrong, despite you saying you're happy to own up to mistakes (well, I guess if you have to say something 20 times, you know it's not true.)
It appears to me, that staff think this all thing is about a community who has gone rogue, and now they've all banded together, and would have for whatever excuse had come along. I do not think staff understands, or tried to understand, why this ban specifically was an issue or why it triggered people - which is DEEPLY troubling.
I think you guys lost the plot. I think you guys would rather focus only on the forum melodrama aspect of this, his friends come in to defend him, these people are against those people, because this leaves the "moral playing field" even and easy to manipulate.
But this is not all that's happening here, and I would expect at least the minimum amount of dealing with that.

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The staff again fails to see here the issue with Brady's Ban was why was post deemed to be a permanent ban in the first place, and continued doubling down of that ban even after things from the UN report were pointed out.

Will someone be banned now if they say Harvey Weinstein had sex slaves instead of saying he committed sexual assaults?

Harvey Weinstein is Jewish (and a rapist and a criminal), you can say whatever the hell you want about him on here

what is Brady even supposed to say? he meant exactly what he wrote and seemingly only mods here are willing to die on this hill that YOU ABSOLUTELY CANNOT CRITICIZE HAMAS for their sex violence crimes because… there are some tv shows… with rich Arab people… or something??

like holy shit if there is a single person in the world that felt offended by that post, maybe they need to take a step back and realize that getting into the argument of hamas only commiting some other sexual violence act please be fair to them is not the most important thing here

Quick, talk about word limits!

[BIONIC]

Morricunt enters the fray to pretend she has principles and wage a holy crusade against the former masters who scorned her once again

I am fine with Brady remaining banned for his off-site comment (honestly, fuck him, but this isn't about him), but I continue to be appalled at the reasoning for his initial ban, and even more so for the quadrupling down of staff to defend that ban.

Keep him banned, but seven hells, please remove that banner on the Hamas post, don't make it bannable to call forced prostitution sexual slavery, and reflect on how an astonishingly bad unforced error this ban and its continued defense of it has been.

Yeah, and I stand by it. The person who made the post is the best person to explain their reasoning. Maybe it was sarcastic, maybe it was satire - sometimes we miss that because it's not obvious. Especially if said user is a member of a community here, I don't care what their "friends" or what-have-you say, because, most times it's just slurs thrown at us, and the rest of the time it's just assuming what the user meant. So yeah, having the banned user explain themselves makes the most sense, because they can best explain what the hell they were saying, or meant to say.

The assumption here is that we don't have members of staff who aren't also victims of sexual assault, or whatever variety of affliction might be applicable to the post at hand. We do. We are not oblivious, and we are very cognizant of any experiences that may be relevant. We're not gonna get it right all of the time, but we do have people that can relate to the issue at hand.

I'm really confused. Are we still talking about the ban on Brady's post regarding Hamas? Why are you talking about sarcasm or satire, or acting like the ban happened due to ambiguity of interpretation? That's not at all what happened. This has nothing to do with ANY of this. I'll give you the benefit of doubt (heh) and assume you are not doing this on purpose, but you are muddying the waters and deflecting from the subject in a really frustrating way.

tbh, I wasn't there for the Brady ban

..... 😑

[Besticus Maximus]

Do you think they have little speeches and mission briefings with each other in their discord before they decide who is going to be the meat shield mod for the day. Reminds me of the conservative party sending out juniors to defend the indefensible on breakfast tv.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Not in discord, signal for those.

[FEUER FREI.]

Guess who?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/did-and-plurality-in-video-games-reflecting-culture-and-progress-over-time-chonky-op.826698/

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“Can you talk again like a little girl?”

did anyone make screencaps of that creep (or excellent troll) original posts in the burqa thread I think, where they talked about their child alter, and weird shit about children, and the mods then permabanned them, and when they got unbanned, the mods edited their posts removing the child stuff? wonder if anyone got screencaps of the ban banner, original post, and a screen where it showed it was edited by mods + the edited posts?

that might be useful and for the the bire frontpage

[TylenolJones]

Found a gamergater!!!

While the first part probably doesn't qualify, the part of going after the creators Steam account is 100% harassment. Let's not handwave bad behaviour just because it's against someone we don't like.

Not at all. Creating a curator group for harassment should be grounds for reporting the person as well.

"Someone we don't like" is one hell of an understatement for someone drumming up a harassment campaign.

Are you for real?

he thought he was slick. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamergate-2-0-chuds-furious-about-a-consulting-company-named-“sweet-baby-inc”-which-overviews-scripts-to-make-sure-nothing-offensive-was-written.823731/page-14?post=120419061#post-120419061

Got em

User Banned (Permanent): Concern trolling, history of the same

[Snoopy]

I'm the most oppressed!

No, I'm the most oppressed!

Fuck you, I'm the most oppressed. I was doxxed!

Fuck you, I was doxxed first!

I'm a trans! I'm first!

Bullshit. I'm a headmates. I'm first!

Could you be any more vanilla? I want to harm children.

What are you even talking about? I've been done for child porn! Honestly, I can't...I...just...can't.

Pfff. Uh, Ok Epsteeeen. Whatever! Actual child sex trafficker here.

That doesn't count! That doesn't fucking count and you know it. Your parents bought her.

[HardcoreRetro]

even IF this was true then they were still hate crimed into suicidality.

 newsfeed pls

Dear lord, what the fuck is wrong with that guy?

It's unaliveality.

[kaleidoscopium]

I kind of dropped a podcast I've loved for years because the two screenwriters have now talked a few times about the new Harry Potter show, and the commentary on JK being a complete piece of shit is always a footnote in their discussion watered down to "questionable views." Maybe since Craig is currently writing The Last of Us for HBO he doesn't want to rock the boat, but for fuck's sake, stop dancing around it and call it what it is.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-102?post=120458067#post-120458067

Not a cult no siree

This podcast btw
https://scriptnotes.net/

[nachobro]

i am very happy that the poliera revolt flopped now that i think about it -- cause goddamn b dumbs and the rest of these idiots are only going to get more unhinged as this year progresses. the hilarity will only get better from here!

[nobody of note]

From constructive, re:new Politics thread:

Below is a post from yesterday from the new PoliUS thread, from the OT himself:

Historically Black voters have always (and trust me this is unfortunate) voted based on damage mitigation. Every time they show a 'major leap' in Black votes it's always pretty marginal and often offensively portrayed ("did you hear Black men ran to Donald Trump in 2020 en masse?"). It's often to the detriment of Black candidates too. Not to say Jesse Jackson was a perfect candidate (antisemitism off the fucking chain) but you had someone who at the time was universally beloved in the black community, a civil rights leader who was with MLK and guess what?


Which is why fucking Mondale was the Dem nominee.

So as a rule, if anyone tries to sell you Black voters are suddenly cool with GOP's racism they are probably selling you pillows and $400 dollar ugly hypebeast kicks.

The following sentence struck me: "Not to say Jesse Jackson was a perfect candidate (antisemitism off the fucking chain) but […]"

Let's imagine other versions of this sentence:
"Not to say X was a perfect candidate (transphobia off the fucking chain) but […]"
"Not to say X was a perfect candidate (islamophobia off the fucking chain) but […]"
"Not to say X was a perfect candidate (sexual offense off the fucking chain) but […]"
And I can add many more.

I'm sure any of these versions would have been swiftly acted upon. Not necessarily god-like wrath from the moderation team, but messages from other members along the line of: "I know what you mean, but can we agree that transphobia/islamophobia/sexual assault/… is a more serious flaw than "not perfection" ?").

I'm aware that the moderation team can't have eyes everywhere and that's why there is a tool for reporting. I agree with that, but in my opinion, it leads to a much bigger problem: WHY hasn't anyone (to my knowledge) reported this? In the new US politics thread with a lot of major staff members actively participating in it?

I'm a lurker (not even 370 posts in almost 7 years). I'm using ERA as a news aggregator as I don't care about social networks. To note, I'm also a lurker on the PoliEra Discord, but I don't thing I posted anything on it other than in the welcome channel. I'm a rather old white straight catholic-born male. Outside of the gaming forums, the general vibe toward people like me on ERA is: "Shut up and listen". And that's OK, that's good. I've learned a lot of things about transphobia or islamophobia or racism that would otherwise have flown right over my head. But I didn't learn it because of the moderators or the moderation rules, I've learnt it because of the members from the various communities from ERA that felt safe enough to talk about it and to challenge my beliefs.

And that is the point of my message: ultimately the moderation comes from the community. I don't want to imply any bad intentions on anyone's part. But whatever the willingness of the staff to fight antisemitism, whatever the rules you put in place or the efforts you deploy to enforce them, this is a lost fight if in the meantime the Jewish members of ERA do not feel safe to talk or have been driven away.

Its why my hopeful reboot focus is on well worded fully thought out answers without drive by's to avoid this situation where people post out of context posts, which is what we have here.

I immediately acknowledged he was a major anti-semite in a post that was solely (literally solely!) about how black voters are continually forced to vote for least common denominator nominees because he was the last major black presidential candidate outside of Obama. I added the addendum to cover the fact he was a major anti-semite, not to dismiss it and still you read it as 'obviously he's trying to peddle his bigoted views' with an out of context comment.

And going back to the goal of the reboot you could have challenged me right there for clarification (which I would have loved! As you notice I am big on trying to set the tone hence the each one teach one focus) in the post but I get a notification about a post in an entirely different post and forum talking past me (at least give me an inbox, lol) how modship is biased as if I don't really matter nor the rest of my wordy post, 1983 quote and all.. Again, its a hopeful reboot of the political discussion on the forums but back to my main point of agreeing to help out and set terms if the whole goal will be to get out of context gotcha's. If ultimately the relationship between the community is so damaged that any political discussion even with acknowledgement of issues within those arguments is seen as endorsement of those issues and that its a bad faith poster, how would you personally see a way forward.

I have no idea who krazen is but he doesn't seem like a terribly compelling pick to set the tone for rebooted political discussion.

[kaleidoscopium]

Isn’t Krazen a black supremacist in similar vein to Malik and Nepenthe? Definitely in the same circles and threads as those 2 often.

[Shecky Fragbaum]

Just for the purposes of historical record, I don't think the Jews should be eradicated OR held as sex slaves. I know that sentiment isn't too popular in certain online communities but sometimes you just have to take a stand.

[killamajig]

Just for the purposes of historical record, I don't think the Jews should be eradicated OR held as sex slaves. I know that sentiment isn't too popular in certain online communities but sometimes you just have to take a stand.

[Snoopy]

Krazen never posted in poli-era.

[JoeBoy101]

Just for the purposes of historical record, I don't think the Jews should be eradicated OR held as sex slaves. I know that sentiment isn't too popular in certain online communities but sometimes you just have to take a stand.

I always knew there was something about this guy.

[bork]

This tweet has been blowing up:

"either the incident is gonna be me killing myself or some insanely unhinged shit is bout to go down real soon"

...

"I DIDN'T EVEN JOKE ABOUT DOING ANYTHING THAT'S THE CRAZY THING"

[Switters]

I'm not leaving any more likes until Benji CLEANS HOUSE.