Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[HaughtyFrank]

Was this a chud thing? I mean, Mario was on the list

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bafta-lara-croft-voted-most-iconic-video-game-character-ever.833898/post-121274349

[I don't swear]

Edit: I need a life

[kaleidoscopium]

You're accusing me of being intellectually dishonest when the only time you actually mentioned the work being trans in this thread was to try to create this straw man that I'm being unreasonable.
"So because I suggested that Drew Goddard isn't an "action film bro" and asked which of his work that comment was even based on, I was ignoring the trans aspect of the Matrix?"

Oh wait, I found another case where you addressed the series being trans allegory.

Oh yeah, it's a post where you're downplaying its allegory and what it means to a lot of us trans people.

You keep saying that you like the movie, whatever. You seem focused on defending people who didn't like it to the point of aiding in the silencing of the marginalized group the movie is made for. Like maybe stop being so defensive and actually see how you're part of the reason why a lot of trans era just have no interest in discussing this series anymore on this forum beyond quick jokes about how obnoxious this place is about it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-‘matrix’-movie-in-the-works-at-warner-bros-from-drew-goddard-lana-wachowski-will-ep.833649/page-6?post=121270299#post-121270299




“Why doesn’t anyone respond to meeeeee?!?!!!!?”

[Eric Cartman]

You're accusing me of being intellectually dishonest when the only time you actually mentioned the work being trans in this thread was to try to create this straw man that I'm being unreasonable.
"So because I suggested that Drew Goddard isn't an "action film bro" and asked which of his work that comment was even based on, I was ignoring the trans aspect of the Matrix?"

Oh wait, I found another case where you addressed the series being trans allegory.

Oh yeah, it's a post where you're downplaying its allegory and what it means to a lot of us trans people.

You keep saying that you like the movie, whatever. You seem focused on defending people who didn't like it to the point of aiding in the silencing of the marginalized group the movie is made for. Like maybe stop being so defensive and actually see how you're part of the reason why a lot of trans era just have no interest in discussing this series anymore on this forum beyond quick jokes about how obnoxious this place is about it.

WB shareholders?

[Eric Cartman]

In many ways the Wachowskis career mirrors Neill Blomkamps, in that they both fucking killed it in their first effort with a genuinely great debut combining (at the time) cutting edge VFX work with a script that had a little more depth than the usual summer popcorn blockbuster fare making something that really resonated with people, and their subsequent work has mostly been visually glossy shlocky shit bombas.

Difference being Neil Blomkamp didn't fucking convert to islam or some shit and retrospectively declare their work as allegorical for their spiritual journey and therefore immune to criticism because those major big budget studio blockbusters aren't actually for you

[kaleidoscopium]

This whole thread is great, retardEra thinks that Tesla had their first drop in sales since 2020 because Elons notoriety finally caught up with the brand. Instead of actual impacts like interest rates. 

It's not just here....less than 40% of Americans would consider a Tesla. Car insurance on M3's is the highest in the country.

As a BMW driver, ya'll really need to stop taking judgements people make on you based on your car personally. I know it sucks going from driving the green machine to the fascist machine in public perception but nobody gets to dictate those societal perceptions and playing the victim because 'people are generalizing' based on what car you drive (which has always happened) doesn't make you look sympathetic.

Like....maybe....instead of Tesla drivers constantly playing the 'that's not us!' game while minimizing the percentage of people that do actually care about who runs and profits from the country, ya'll could actually recognize that it DOES matter to a large percentage of people. You might not be in that group and that's cool, but claiming we don't exist (or only exist on ERA) is not...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tesla-releases-1st-quarter-sales-numbers-for-2024-cnn.833658/page-3?post=121278330#post-121278330

“The fascist machine” 

[Snoopy]

Broken ego Ree 2016 - No, you don’t get it. It’s about ethics. Slut. Whore. Samwich. Bitch. Cunt.

Ashamed of their past ree 2024 - She’s probably on the rag again. Someone needs to shut her up. Battered women only shelter? Fucking TERF bitch. If only we could take her money away from her.  She looks like a man. Menstruation drove her mad lol.

It doesn’t matter what pronouns they adopt. What clothes they wear. They will always be the same.

[HaughtyFrank]

Doesn't libertarian describe Musk much better than fascist? Always this impulse to devoid words of their meaning

[Besticus Maximus]

BMW of course being a company that made engines for the Luftwaffe

[kaleidoscopium]

What gets me is they say “look at this thread! So many of us wanted a Tesla before we learned ELON is a CHUD! That’s proof positive that it’s a real impact on the bottom line”. Another user replied “yeah look at the Netflix password sharing threads, we found 200% of the users that cancelled because of Netflix cracking down on it on those threads!” And they didn’t understand what he was saying

[BadAss2961]

The Matrix has run its course. If it must go forward, a TV series with maybe the Wachowskis as just advisors would be the better option. Resurrections is so ass it managed to make Revolutions look not so bad in retrospect.

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/only-fans-in-video-games.833967/

Place bets now on whether or not the no fun allowed mods shut this down for, fuck, I dunno, boys club behaviour or something, or permit an island of levity in their sea of misery for once

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-%E2%80%98matrix%E2%80%99-movie-in-the-works-at-warner-bros-from-drew-goddard-lana-wachowski-will-ep.833649/page-7?post=121280262#post-121280262

If you like the Matrix movies for their visuals and action, you are not *wrong*. If you were disappointed that Resurrections fell down on those things, you did not *fail to understand the movie*. Personally I liked the visuals (a few poor CG effects aside), and also feel like the action was poor at best.

But if you can't understand why those of us who value the fuck out of this franchise for speaking to *our* truth are worried about this, or think our concerns aren't worth listening to over you getting a shiny new action movie you might like, then look at yourself and ask yourself why.

Great action movies continue to get made. I'd put basically all of the John Wick movies above the Matrix sequels as action movies for example. I'm a fan of them. But which other big budget movies speak to the trans experience? I can't think of any since Resurrections.

Personally I think Reloaded is shallow and boring. I think Revelations is the much better film, which I know puts me in a minority.

Resurrections is a film that speaks to me on a deeply personal level. I recognize so many of my own experiences in it. I wish they'd asked Stahleski to lay out the action scenes and had McTiegue direct them as he did on most of the original trilogy. It's so frustrating to see Stahleski show up in the movie knowing what he could have done leading the stunt team.

For me, the original movie when it first came out, was a western movie bringing the kind of action I was already enjoying in Catonese cinema to a wider audience. The action wasn't mind blowing or special for me. I liked the movie but didn't really connect with it like I do now that I'm no longer burying my transness in denial.

The trans director made a movie that lots and lots of trans people love. Maybe there's genuine value in that. Maybe that speaks to its craft. It feels dismissive to read people talking about it like it's unquestionably crap.

I'm not going to hammer on cis folks for not being able to see *how deeply* some of us trans people connected to Resurrections. I know that you can only really imagine what the trans experience is like, and you can't even begin to understand whether the film speaks *accurately* to that or not. That limitation isn't your fault.

But please hear us. If you don't have a deep personal connection with Resurrections that's fine. But maybe that so many of us do speaks to it having qualities that you can't truly appreciate, rather than those of us that love the movie being blind to it being 'bad'.

 

But please hear us

 

[nachobro]

once again they confuse "hearing us" with "agree with everything we say"

[clockwork5]

Maybe being a good film is about portraying a unique perspective in a way that engages and promotes an empathetic response from the viewer, and that it’s a justified criticism that the pandering in Matrix 4 missed the mark so hard that to many it just came across as bad writing and the “message” was completely lost.

[Besticus Maximus]

I think Boss Baby does a better job of speaking to Plagiarise's truth than the matrix

[Boredfrom]

Because heaven forbid trans people get a protection before women one time.

[Tucker's Law]

The Stellar Blade situation gives me so many thoughts. 

It frustrates me. I remember, back in the PS3-360 era, when the pushback against super sexualized female characters started, it was all about wanting variety. I still think variety in character designs should be the goal, but it is un-fucking-deniable that western games are typically pushing frumpy, middle-of-the-road characters for the sake of realism. The main reason Stellar Blade gained traction is because the main character is really hot. Things have gone so far to the other end that having a hot character design is newsworthy.

I remember when Bayonetta was seen as the demon for focusing so much on her ass, and now she’s held up as an example of good character design. What? And I wasn’t around for Nier Automata’s press tour, but I guarantee the Resetera types would hate it. And I mean, how could they not? Honest to god, 2B’s ass is legitimately distracting. Like, her whole look is completely fetishized, and they lack the media literacy to find a deeper reason for it. And honestly, even if you do justify it, it’s still distracting. Yet she’s now also an officially recognized good design for the doublethink prudes? I smell bullshit on this.

So here’s my two cents on this. The autistic men in dresses can’t push back too hard against Bayonetta and 2B because, as sexualized as they are, the games came out, and women loved them. Because for a lot of us, being distractingly-hot, while also a total badass, is a plus, not a con. So the people who have made their whole online persona an attempt to co-opt the female experience cannot push back against them without having the façade slip a bit. “We are not a monolith”, claim the ghouls who are very much a monolith. “Bayonetta’s ass is okay because she owns her sexuality”, claim the freaks who hate any kind of sexuality and repeatedly claim fictional characters have no agency. “2B’s ass is okay because…” i actually don’t know how they defend this one. 

I suspect these people are going so hard against Stellar Blade simply in a foolish attempt to control the narrative, much in the same way they tried and failed with Hogwarts. But if they can get Stellar Blade to be officially recognized as a chud game before it comes out and is largely popular among female gamers, then they win. Give them time, and those stupid sluts will like it, and they will have to pretend to also like it for the next t’n’a character action protagonist.

Some day, these people will be forced to confront how the pushback against their retarded, puritanical views, is without a doubt one of the leading causes in the general public rejecting the left. When you use the slippery slope as much as they do, and in no doubt at this point claiming you like the Stellar Blade girl makes you a literal nazi, the regular people stop paying attention to nazis when everyone is, and especially when your most poignant example is “this man likes boobs and ass! Nazi!”

The menopause thing with JK Rowling really fucking angered me. These creepos are the worst type of sexist asshole and I see them no different from the most stereotypical right wing parody. At the end of the day they all get off in telling women how to think, feel and act. One simply adds “speaking as a trans lesbian” at the beginning of their spiel

TL;DR: Post 2B ass

I'm still of the opinion that today, the trans community has the most genuinely misogynistic scumbags, and not by a small margin either.  Every thing they work towards achieving is done to deliberately diminish women.

[HaughtyFrank]

[kaleidoscopium]

It’s okay to find value in a film for a personal reason, art is all up to your interpretation and valuation. But god damn the way they say THEIR interpretation and THEIR valuation is the THE way is fucking irritating. The matrix can have whatever things you look for in it, directors intent or otherwise, but hate how smug they act like it’s 100% a trans allegory when to many people, including the directors at the time, it was not. The fact they can’t see that again shows their lack of media literacy.

Edit: and the user harping how it must be made by an LGBT person or it loses the essence of the matrix, and then ending with an edit that says “unless drew goddard is lgbt then I take back this critique” summarizes it perfectly, they think art is only valuable if it comes from the “right” people with the “right” intent.

[Besticus Maximus]

History shows that Larry Wachowski was getting Ketamine injected into his dick at the point of orgasm by a dominatrix AFTER the first matrix film 

[LegendOfSwagda]

Its cruel and a bit mean spirited but the moment you realize that most of their beef is the fact that they will never fully be able to match any sexy character everything begins to make sense.

Add in the fact that it does take effort to actually look good (regardless of what you are) and you got why they wish to lower the bar via making everything above the bar "problematic".

These are people desperate to make you believe what they believe because if not their whole world view crumbles and they spiral...which is sad and why there are so many suicide threads. They are supreme narcissists to their own detriment. 

And it will never be enough sadly and I think most people have realized that and thus they can only scream into the ether on the few platforms they still have "control"

[HaughtyFrank]

Its cruel and a bit mean spirited but the moment you realize that most of their beef is the fact that they will never fully be able to match any sexy character everything begins to make sense.

Add in the fact that it does take effort to actually look good (regardless of what you are) and you got why they wish to lower the bar via making everything above the bar "problematic".

These are people desperate to make you believe what they believe because if not their whole world view crumbles and they spiral...which is sad and why there are so many suicide threads. They are supreme narcissists to their own detriment. 

And it will never be enough sadly and I think most people have realized that and thus they can only scream into the ether on the few platforms they still have "control"

What's funny is that you can tell that deep down Kyuuji actually likes it. There are many other soulslike games out there but for some reason she's totally fixated on this one.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Seems the steam deck OT creators account got purged

huh, OP nuked their account. wonder what happened

Dig a bit - it's pretty easy to find out what happened.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/steam-deck-ot2-episode-1-lcds-for-sale-here.785147/page-139?post=121259901#post-121259901

From old posts the account was named zexyen
https://www.resetera.com/threads/steam-deck-ot2-episode-1-lcds-for-sale-here.785147/?post=114905837#post-114905837


Don’t recognize the name, anyone got any ideas?

https://thebore.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=3&pid=25073&highlight=zexyen#pid25073

Maybe this is it?

I remember this dude.  He was crying when people in a Forspoken thread saying the game wasn't good 
https://www.resetera.com/threads/apparently-square-enix-limited-access-to-forspoken-review-codes.677737/page-7?post=100039267#post-100039267

Great post. It's frankly insane how much hate I've seen from people regarding this game, while other games with much bigger issues just get free passes constantly (CP2077 Transphobia, Persona 5 Homophobia, Etc) but suddenly this game is the game that has everyone up at arms. It's ridiculous when you consider this is supposed to be the "Calm & Collected" Forum and it's just full of people waiting to dunk their hot takes in a thread that they have no skin in.

If the game releases and in the OT I'm still seeing this constant bullshit I'm straight up requesting a deactivation. I'm not going to stay in a forum where actually interesting games are shittalked constantly when the game hasn't even launched for fucks sake.

Yes, that user is a furry too so I'm using it for the occasion.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-%E2%80%98matrix%E2%80%99-movie-in-the-works-at-warner-bros-from-drew-goddard-lana-wachowski-will-ep.833649/page-7?post=121280640#post-121280640

You take that perspective out and you just have "John Wick but with vague sci-fi tinges".

Yes, The Matrix is an action movie with a coat of style and second rate sci-fi. Whenever the sequels tried to move beyond that, they didn't work.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-begins-bombing-of-southern-gaza-following-collapse-of-ceasefire-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/page-298?post=121288080#post-121288080

User warned: trolling

So, can we not with the comparisons to other situations? Partly because it distracts from the situation the thread is about and partly because the Ukraine thing did expose how a lot of the socialist left doesn't even see Eastern European dudes as people and I'd rather the thread not be derailed by that particular discussion.

Hmm. You aren't really asking, so I don't really have a choice so I'll drop the conversation about how white suffering and brown suffering is framed within the media and received in society at large since that is not at all relevant to the conversation at hand. My apologies sir

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Kojima took a picture with the director of Stellar Blade. Looks like another round of trying to cancel Kojima just popped up on the menu!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-356?post=121277928#post-121277928

[killamajig]

It’s okay to find value in a film for a personal reason, art is all up to your interpretation and valuation. But god damn the way they say THEIR interpretation and THEIR valuation is the THE way is fucking irritating. The matrix can have whatever things you look for in it, directors intent or otherwise, but hate how smug they act like it’s 100% a trans allegory when to many people, including the directors at the time, it was not. The fact they can’t see that again shows their lack of media literacy.

Edit: and the user harping how it must be made by an LGBT person or it loses the essence of the matrix, and then ending with an edit that says “unless drew goddard is lgbt then I take back this critique” summarizes it perfectly, they think art is only valuable if it comes from the “right” people with the “right” intent.

Reeee knows if the director didn't personally go through the things they put on film it turns out shit. Just look at Saving Private Ryan. Spielberg never fought in world war II and look how that Oscar winning movie turned out.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Kojima took a picture with the director of Stellar Blade. Looks like another round of trying to cancel Kojima just popped up on the menu!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-356?post=121277928#post-121277928

Well folks, this is what we get for not being more ashamed of our words and deeds:

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-%E2%80%98matrix%E2%80%99-movie-in-the-works-at-warner-bros-from-drew-goddard-lana-wachowski-will-ep.833649/page-7?post=121280640#post-121280640

You take that perspective out and you just have "John Wick but with vague sci-fi tinges".

Yes, The Matrix is an action movie with a coat of style and second rate sci-fi. Whenever the sequels tried to move beyond that, they didn't work.

You're not allowed to call an American trans woman's art mid because you're not part of that culture, but you're allowed to call a South Korean woman's art trash meant only for perverts, huh?