Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[benji]

Like I don't think people really understand yts, all they do is sit around all day thinking about whiteness and talking about how angry they are that some people don't meet their standard of whiteness. They're obsessed, it's just this constant festering prism where they can't focus on anything else except whiteness. It's exactly like how cis people can't stop thinking about being cis and how much they need cissupremacy. It's not really a surprise that they have no culture when they're all losers who only talk about their obsessions and the anger it causes them.

I'm so glad we have stuff like The People's Joker and Final Fantasy XIV instead of just endless seething about folks just because they're different. Although they won't stop trying to ruin those for us too like they did The Marvels and Forspoken because they really cannot let anyone else have just one thing.

I'd almost feel sad about what they've done to themselves if they didn't want me dead and will do anything they can to achieve that.

[benji]

Just like be careful, know the signs, anyone you meet on the internet could be a yt. Stay safe.

[Boredfrom]

If folks had the opportunity to ask someone who had finished Stellar Blade questions (pertinent to this thread and with the caveat that the answers wouldn't be posted until embargo)... what would they be? Asking for a friend. And feel free to DM.

- Does Eve have an actual, definable character arc?
- How are the other women treated? In terms of character and scenario writing?
- Just how bad is the heteronormativity? AKA The Adam and Eve factor

Almost sounded normal until the last question.

[Chumbawumbafan69]

Honestly not much sympathy for them if they were mad about "Fuck china" posts something that's okay to say about literally any other country. I also remember that when people started saying "Fuck the CCP" they still didn't like it.

Still, hilarious that the complaints toward moderation were exactly the same four years ago. It's almost like the mods are shit

Yeah, a lot of them were CCP apologists, for better or worse. Still, RE has a genuine problem with Asian people when they are picked against BCT. I remember Nepenthe saying some incredible racist shit in those threads.

One of the highlights was when BCT absolutely railed the poor little asian fella

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

"- Does Eve have an actual, definable character arc?"

Does it matter? It's just an action game. 

[benji]

A chronology of trans victims of the Holocaust:

https://elierlick.com/transholocaust/

Interesting source to choose because Eli Erlick has been accused of being violent towards women including sexually. Like ActivisionBlizzard they've also been accused of causing a suicide from their abuse.

Speaking of which:


Full stop.

[NekoFever]

If folks had the opportunity to ask someone who had finished Stellar Blade questions (pertinent to this thread and with the caveat that the answers wouldn't be posted until embargo)... what would they be? Asking for a friend. And feel free to DM.

- Does Eve have an actual, definable character arc?
- How are the other women treated? In terms of character and scenario writing?
- Just how bad is the heteronormativity? AKA The Adam and Eve factor

Almost sounded normal until the last question.

Do they mean “do the man and woman have a romantic relationship?”

Or are they worried they’re going to take a break from killing aliens to deliver a lecture on how God created man and woman?

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Princess Bubblegum just wants to know if Eve and Tachy have hot lesbian sex.

(Not a fetish)

[benji]

Do they mean “do the man and woman have a romantic relationship?”   

Or are they worried they’re going to take a break from killing aliens to deliver a lecture on how God created man and woman?

It's the former, there's a bunch of posts they've been making across the threads bitching about how "of course" it's going to end with her finding an Adam.

These are the people who lecture us about media literacy and gender roles and everything else and they can't even comprehend a determinist story involving gods isn't necessarily an approval. (EXCEPT THEY'RE CHUDS SO THEY DEMAND IT BE FOR ALL OF US)

It's doubly stupid because all these games (Xenoblade, God of War, etc.) do this same exact thing where your dumbass quest ends up being this reoccurring cosmic necessity that will raise questions about if you actually did anything in the game by choice since it (including your importance despite being born into a "normal life") was all fated by existence itself. She has to find Adam because it ties up the circle! It's not about heteronormative anything, it's about the "plan"!

Maybe this game isn't about that, I wouldn't know it from the essay's they've written about her name and how angry it makes them.

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This is another reason why the only god that should be allowed in stories to have plans is Darkseid.

[Nintex]

Xenoblade is  

Especially the new lore they dropped in the art book.

[benji]

the third one is a cruise where everyone fucks on day two and then cries and talks about their favorite ayn rand dating tips day five

https://www.resetera.com/threads/zack-snyder-already-working-on-rebel-moon-part-three-story.846120/?post=121785960#post-121785960

Can’t shake that dollar store blamespace label

They have to keep bringing up a guy who has been done with DC for a few years now to fight off their fear that the MCU is beyond its expiration date but doesn’t know it yet. 

All because of a few movies they didn’t like. 

Meanwhile, the former MCU director is now spearheading the DC reboot and will likely have things back on track before too long.

Come to the conclusion these guys haven’t been happy, or really felt any sort of emotion, since around 2016. It’s their own making for being completely static in life. Never growing or learning or letting go of past grievances. All of this is trying to recapture how they felt back then. Which is in itself sad to consider the best time of your life being a fanboy for superhero movies. 

Also, with people like Snyder and Joanne, they need them to be the ultimate evil to vindicate their behaviors. Once again, these guys celebrated Snyder losing his daughter because it meant he stepped away from Justice League. That’s such a deep ugliness of character and it’s who they are. They need to see it as justified, or they’re forced to admit these truths to themselves.

It's extra funny because Snyder isn't an Objectivist or even a libertarian, he just likes The Fountainhead's plot. He explained this over a decade before they all decided to hate him.

And they don't know anything about Ayn Rand or Objectivism anyway since "Ayn Rand dating tips" are just rape followed by lecturing the person that they ideologically supported the objective truth of its necessity. There would be no crying because emotions are unobjective weakness.

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[Boredfrom]

Xenoblade is Gnosticism with Waifus, Benji. In the first game you kill the evil part of the Demiurge and in the second one the benign other half dies creating a less worse world. Dunno about the third.

There is an Adam in the second game but dies maidenless, I think.

[Besticus Maximus]

Xenoblade 2 was a fucking great game that those cunts soiled and besmirched and now that they're lesbians it's awesome

[Boredfrom]

Xenoblade 2 was a fucking great game that those cunts soiled and besmirched and now that they're lesbians it's awesome

A lot of them still hate the game, but is a Persona situation were they shit on every thread about it while playing the game to 100% completion.

[Boredfrom]

Xenoblade X was what Mass Effect Andromeda wanted to be. Where is my remaster, Nintendo?

[benji]

Xenoblade is Gnosticism with Waifus, Benji. In the first game you kill the evil part of the Demiurge and in the second one the benign other half dies creating a less worse world. Dunno about the third.

There is an Adam in the second game but dies maidenless, I think.

I haven't played it or anything but I'm pretty sure the third is what I described as the whole series being some reoccurring mythology that connects all the events of the prior games and suggests the same about Xenogears and Xenosaga.

Which makes sense to me without looking into it because that's the original "vision" for the nine-billion part Xenosaga story that got chopped up because nobody wants to fund your Robot Waifus lecturing people about religion for 9000 hours.

[benji]

I was saying more that it's hilarious that they're upset about it being HETERONORMATIVE and not that it's this sort of hacky crutch to give meaning to what's just an allegory that's sort of like "but what if religion was true but also cool but also ACTION PACKED" which I don't necessarily complain about but which the identities they're posturing as would surely be more critical of. (Except that they love religion as long as it's not some "generic Christianity" that sounds like specifically Catholicism that they're all now calling Christian nationalism as if this is an actual thing, tied to fascism too because all my enemies always team up against me, because that's this episode's special phrase.)

[Boredfrom]

I don’t remember religious lecture in Xenoblade. The Elf Pope was evil in the second game, though.

[benji]

I don’t remember religious lecture in Xenoblade. The Elf Pope was evil in the second game, though.

No, Xenosaga. Especially the first one on the PS2, lots of endless exposition about nonsense. They couldn't afford the cost for the cutscenes after that.

Ironically the same reason Xenogears's second disc is the way it is.

[Boredfrom]

I just remembered that the localization of Xenoblade 2 made the religious references less in your face (your first Sword Waifu is the ‘Holy Grial’ in the Japanese version    )

I don’t remember religious lecture in Xenoblade. The Elf Pope was evil in the second game, though.

No, Xenosaga. Especially the first one on the PS2, lots of endless exposition about nonsense. They couldn't afford the cost for the cutscenes after that.

Ironically the same reason Xenogears's second disc is the way it is.

In that regard, is kind of funny they got 3 (4) games with Nintendo and the pseudo franchise is finally selling.

[benji]

I don't begrudge them for revisiting the same idea, especially when the first two attempts had such huge problems, but it still is kind of hacky. I just think it's funny that ResetERA.com never complains about this kind of shit, instead they're obsessed with irrelevancies about individual characters or accusing other stuff of being the most hacky of all because they're missing the obvious point of what's on the tin.

I love the Snyder example because the Batman point is so obvious and yet they rage constantly about how it's "edgelord" and "trying to be cool" not realizing their own mentality being the same as Bruce is confirmed by all the violent fantasies they're always posting. The same rage they show about Bioshock. Then their problem with these games is some other shit.

It makes me laugh when people are so un-self-aware, like reading Nepenthe lecturing people.

[Boredfrom]

I was saying more that it's hilarious that they're upset about it being HETERONORMATIVE and not that it's this sort of hacky crutch to give meaning to what's just an allegory that's sort of like "but what if religion was true but also cool but also ACTION PACKED" which I don't necessarily complain about but which the identities they're posturing as would surely be more critical of. (Except that they love religion as long as it's not some "generic Christianity" that sounds like specifically Catholicism that they're all now calling Christian nationalism as if this is an actual thing, tied to fascism too because all my enemies always team up against me, because that's this episode's special phrase.)

Isn’t the USA Protestant land rather than Catholic like most European countries and the rest of the American continent?

[Boredfrom]

I don't begrudge them for revisiting the same idea, especially when the first two attempts had such huge problems, but it still is kind of hacky.

In their defense, at least with the first game, they wanted to name the game Monado rather than Xenoblade, at least at first. 

(I was going to say that it was not as connected with the other Xeno games like the sequels were but then I remembered that the Zohar appears in the backstory… so yeah, kinda hacky  )

[Potato]

I was saying more that it's hilarious that they're upset about it being HETERONORMATIVE and not that it's this sort of hacky crutch to give meaning to what's just an allegory that's sort of like "but what if religion was true but also cool but also ACTION PACKED" which I don't necessarily complain about but which the identities they're posturing as would surely be more critical of. (Except that they love religion as long as it's not some "generic Christianity" that sounds like specifically Catholicism that they're all now calling Christian nationalism as if this is an actual thing, tied to fascism too because all my enemies always team up against me, because that's this episode's special phrase.)

Isn’t the USA Protestant land rather than Catholic like most European countries and the rest of the American continent?

If Protestant means weird fringe cults, then yes

[Polident]

It's extra funny because Snyder isn't an Objectivist or even a libertarian, he just likes The Fountainhead's plot. He explained this over a decade before they all decided to hate him.

And they don't know anything about Ayn Rand or Objectivism anyway since "Ayn Rand dating tips" are just rape followed by lecturing the person that they ideologically supported the objective truth of its necessity. There would be no crying because emotions are unobjective weakness.

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He says it plainly on the Joe Rogan podcast. As I understand it, the context originally comes from WB planning a remake. Because it was adapted as a major movie with Gary Cooper and all. Not like that recent-ish low budget Atlas Shrugged adaptation trying to be God’s Not Dead for libertarians.

Broader scope, but I think they mix up Fountainhead with Atlas Shrugged. All books without pictures are the same. First they learned about Rand through Bioshock in 2007. Then you had the Tea Party thing and Paul Ryan fanboying over Rand. One of those political comedy shows did a segment on her. By that stage, there’s no need to have an opinion. Rand’s kind of a nut, don’t get me wrong. I believe a person should come to that conclusion on their own.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

I was saying more that it's hilarious that they're upset about it being HETERONORMATIVE and not that it's this sort of hacky crutch to give meaning to what's just an allegory that's sort of like "but what if religion was true but also cool but also ACTION PACKED" which I don't necessarily complain about but which the identities they're posturing as would surely be more critical of. (Except that they love religion as long as it's not some "generic Christianity" that sounds like specifically Catholicism that they're all now calling Christian nationalism as if this is an actual thing, tied to fascism too because all my enemies always team up against me, because that's this episode's special phrase.)

Isn’t the USA Protestant land rather than Catholic like most European countries and the rest of the American continent?

Are you trying to start a war?

[benji]

He says it plainly on the Joe Rogan podcast. As I understand it, the context originally comes from WB planning a remake. Because it was adapted as a major movie with Gary Cooper and all. Not like that recent-ish low budget Atlas Shrugged adaptation trying to be God’s Not Dead for libertarians.

Broader scope, but I think they mix up Fountainhead with Atlas Shrugged. All books without pictures are the same. First they learned about Rand through Bioshock in 2007. Then you had the Tea Party thing and Paul Ryan fanboying over Rand. One of those political comedy shows did a segment on her. By that stage, there’s no need to have an opinion. Rand’s kind of a nut, don’t get me wrong. I believe a person should come to that conclusion on their own.

Ayn was a screenwriter before she became a novelist or cult founder, she sold the rights for The Fountainhead almost immediately and made most of the money off of it because of the movie boosting book sales. She had enough clout to not only write the script but demand it be filmed as written and force King Vidor to film the entire speech at the end not just a short version. Plus Gary Cooper was her choice for the lead and somehow got that over Vidor too.

When it came out it was panned and Ayn of course defended it as perfect, then later as it became more remembered as a classic film she turned against it, claimed it was butchered and announced she'd never let Hollywood adapt anything else again.

Secret chud Oliver Stone was the one who wanted to remake it for decades before Snyder. I think everyone likes its look and the general liberal theme about artists being able to do what they want. Nobody cares about Ayn's weird cult she started later. Incidentally, I think Atlas Shrugged is beloved for similar reasons, the libertarianism in it is pretty simple liberal stuff really except for the Galt's Gulch extremism which can be handwaved for dramatic purposes (or treated as Bioshock did) and only weirdos really care about Ayn's weird shit. I think her only decent work is We The Living and nobody cares about it because it doesn't really have any of that stark dramatic imagery she puts in the rest. I think it's that imagery that has attracted filmmakers more than anything and I have no reason not to assume it comes from her own attraction to film and starting as a screenwriter.

That Atlas Shrugged trilogy is funny with the actors changing in every part and trying to be true to the "canon" in which there's no action, not that I've watched it as I only would with Rifftrax. Plus it needs to end with a big fight scene like the earlier Casino Royale with all the James Bonds played by different actors.

[Besticus Maximus]

Their ideology is closer to Ayn Rand than Karl Marx

[Tektonic]

Post in thread 'Taylor Swift announces new album The Tortured Poets Department out April 19' 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/taylor-swift-announces-new-album-the-tortured-poets-department-out-april-19.813021/post-121822350

Real tortured poet speaks!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/taylor-swift-announces-new-album-the-tortured-poets-department-out-april-19.813021/post-121822350

Lol

[benji]

Post in thread 'Taylor Swift announces new album The Tortured Poets Department out April 19' 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/taylor-swift-announces-new-album-the-tortured-poets-department-out-april-19.813021/post-121822350

Real tortured poet speaks!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/taylor-swift-announces-new-album-the-tortured-poets-department-out-april-19.813021/post-121822350

Lol

She is not a tortured poet though. Please tell me in what way has this person has ever been tortured? She has billionaire problems. She has one of the best lives on earth. For comparison I'm homeless, I have disabling depression. My life is truly a living hell and I'm an actual tortured poet (I write poetry). Not a pretend one. Tay Tay may be a poet but tortured she ain't. At all. Even if it's just a "fun" concept it's not funny to me.

Imagine if the appropriation wasnt socio-economic, or about mental health and rather about race. "rich white person titles their new album [non-caucadian] girl summer." Instead of "rich white best life-living super-successful star makes light of poor suffering artists, using it as cute/cool concept." Neither should be okay, and yet people do all sorts of mental gymnastics to rationalize one, ironically the same way bigots do to protect their beliefs.

The arts used to belong to the poor and those in great suffering. Throughout history art was the lone bastion the lower classes had. Actual tortured poets die in anonymity or hang themselves from a rafter. Nowadays with all art but music especially it's all trust fund kids like Ariel Pink and Caroline Polachek (who also made light of trauma on the tonight show not too long ago), because who has time to write or compose when you're living day to day in poverty and filled with constant all-encompassing financial stress?

It's not a surprise though. I mean the condescension our society so casually has towards poor people is still allowed in most demographics. Every day I hear someone casually call someone else a bum, or say things like "poverty franchise." It basically means the homeless are pieces of garbage. Yet even on resetera, especially sports thread. No one blinks an eye.

Socio-economic inequality is not less important than other social issues and yet it's still treated like so. To be honest I'm worried about getting banned bringing just this perspective up.

ohhhh my goooodddddd it's just a inside baseball goof on her ex boyfriend's stupid group chat name.

And yet still in bad taste.

Sylvia Plath is a tortured poet. Hemingway is a tortured poet. I can go on with hundreds and hundreds of more poets and writers whose lives were filled with pain and end in dying poor and in shambles or by their own hand. Wikipedia pages that will make you shudder. Suicide and suffering are so entwined with "tortured poets" and from where Im laying - actually living that life - neither is cool or funny as an inside joke.

Fresh copy pasta, with the perfect amount of salt. Welcome to the forum.

Nice way to reduce my situation, thanks.