Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[benji]

ALGORITHMS

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

it's all about sexy men

Urgh, this is triggering my dysphoria.

with giant dicks

OMG, she's just like me!

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-previews-demo-thread-staff-post-threadmarked.831270/page-80?post=121974813#post-121974813

Calling other people toothless while vague subtweeting yourself is an interesting combination I will say. I can only assume me though, right, since I seem to find myself having to justify the things I like these days to people with the most basic etch-a-sketch understanding of me. It's just kind of weird considering I'm pretty sure I didn't post in any other Stellar Blade related thread (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc.) prior to this one where I basically did what I've been doing in any Stellar Blade discussion; called out the over-sexualisation and noted the nature of how such designs appeal can differ between the men they're designed for and women who like them. I spent half of my posts throwing shots at Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Oh and this one I guess, where I called out someone for trying to guilt a woman by invoking other women who like the game and said people should be free to voice their criticism. I don't think any of that is particularly diligent though. The second post I made on SB in the sexualised characters thread was this, which touches on a frustration I've voiced pretty openly since:

Honestly miffed that yet again another game with interesting visual design elements is just mired in shit. Like on the green outfit there's this strip of transparent plastic over her shoulders with a Louis Vuitton-esque pattern done as a hologram between the layers of it. It's genuinely cool… but then you get a glowing light on her crotch and the seam line running down it is a markedly different shade to the rest because you know, you really have to emphasise there is a vagina there.

Then yeh, again, you have whatever this suit is lol

It's just like, can we get the intricate and heavily detailed femme costumes without needing to collide them with the imagination of some horny creep.

It's stupid it needs to be said but I'm not required to bind myself for the sake of maintaining whatever image of me you have in my head, of which people have many. If wanting to play Stellar Blade while being critical of its issues and having long conversations about the male gaze and how it relates to hyper-femininity – and how high-femmes deal with accusations of internalised misogyny for liking what we like – is what fractures some perception of me then it was too fragile to begin with. I'm not the one who built me up into something that could be blown over by your own disappointment. I think we should be critical of the shit elements of things that appeal to us or we engage with, if that's some line in the sand for you then ignore me and move on. People who want to discuss their report card of me can DM me, sniping with the lens cap on is just petty.

[Eric Cartman]

Don't all the OMG SAVE TIKTOK posters have some tide pods to eat, or are they just waiting for the Self Immolation Challenge to get more widespread?

[Eric Cartman]

having long conversations about the male gaze and how it relates to hyper-femininity – and how high-femmes deal with accusations of internalised misogyny for liking what we like

I am not a big believer in the concept of "cultural appropriation", but holy fucking shit, how is this not appropriation?

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

having long conversations about the male gaze and how it relates to hyper-femininity – and how high-femmes deal with accusations of internalised misogyny for liking what we like

I am not a big believer in the concept of "cultural appropriation", but holy fucking shit, how is this not appropriation?

Us ladies, huh fellas?

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-previews-demo-thread-staff-post-threadmarked.831270/page-80?post=121975113#post-121975113

We did it, girls! The Birette's won!

https://strawpoll.com/3RnYlGMwDye

lmao @ trying to smuggle ass/tits jokes as OT title on ERA, especially for a highly discussed game as SB.



I'm cackling lookin' at the poll result, couldn't ask for a more perfect ending. 🤣

It's a fuckin' TITLE, it's not gonna impact y'all's enjoyment of the game lol.

It seems like the poll is closed now and the winner is "why women critizise...".

And a sore loser here.

Neither of the two "winners" will be chosen as the OT thread title.
All this poll did is lead to more heated arguments, sadly.

[Potato]

Hidden posts from our faves:

I would say that the big things I go wild for in women would be weird little neet women (potential overlap with the inventor) and people who are good with my littles, so maybe this could potentially be a place to put in a character with DID as I mean having the option of dating a character with DID hasn't really been done before in a video game. Like imagaine the snooty childhood bully getting too wound up mid way through a dungeon and she wakes up at night wanting to play with you because the kid part of her remembers when you were friends.

A NEET, an acronym for "Not in Education, Employment, or Training", is a person who is unemployed and not receiving an education or vocational training.

Soooo, two hearts has a fetish for unemployed uneducated people. I guess they found the perfect place in Resetera!!

[Besticus Maximus]

Needless to say, I Kyuuji, lord of the heavens, was right all along and you fools were too unenlightened to understand it. For I never proclaimed myself your leader! You chose, of your own volition, to follow me, knowing the consequences, knowing my wrath.

If thou shalt ascend to the title of high-femme, such as I, thou must do better

[Snoopy]

High femme.

[Uncle]

A channel called "Second Thought" that's nothing but rote idiocy you can get at thousands of other similar channels where it's obvious the guy actually never has had a second thought in his life feels like the same genre as channels called Heterdox or Critical or something like that's also all the same content with the same common opinions constantly fighting with strawmen or people they've made up in their heads.


[vids]

Not even watching these just  at the titles and thumbnails.

Imagine being this person or any of the 578 people who liked it:

@SgtLion
1 year ago (edited)
The golden age of the internet from 2000-2013 will never be forgotten by me, nor experienced by any future generations. An era where every community had its own forum, its own culture, its own lore and memes and relationships and policies and games and lives. A world where you could pop into a random website, start posting about this thing you love, and actually make real friends in a natural and comfortable way. I will forever miss it. Fuck you capitalism.

Though maybe I should watch one of the 20 videos about socialism for beginners so I can know just how stupid this channel is.

ok so I started watching the video they linked and the first 10 seconds are hilarious  



lol then he calls tiktok one of the most important news sources in history 

[Puffy Fucking Baby]

Gotta give some credit tho for there being no soyface in the thumbnail

[HaughtyFrank]

A channel called "Second Thought" that's nothing but rote idiocy you can get at thousands of other similar channels where it's obvious the guy actually never has had a second thought in his life feels like the same genre as channels called Heterdox or Critical or something like that's also all the same content with the same common opinions constantly fighting with strawmen or people they've made up in their heads.


[vids]

Not even watching these just  at the titles and thumbnails.

Imagine being this person or any of the 578 people who liked it:

@SgtLion
1 year ago (edited)
The golden age of the internet from 2000-2013 will never be forgotten by me, nor experienced by any future generations. An era where every community had its own forum, its own culture, its own lore and memes and relationships and policies and games and lives. A world where you could pop into a random website, start posting about this thing you love, and actually make real friends in a natural and comfortable way. I will forever miss it. Fuck you capitalism.

Though maybe I should watch one of the 20 videos about socialism for beginners so I can know just how stupid this channel is.

ok so I started watching the video they linked and the first 10 seconds are hilarious  



lol then he calls tiktok one of the most important news sources in history 

9 months ago: "Why are there so many right wing grifters"

Now: "Guys, I need your money"

[Eric Cartman]

A NEET, an acronym for "Not in Education, Employment, or Training", is a person who is unemployed and not receiving an education or vocational training.

A NEET is a guy that thinks he's fly and is also known as a busta, always talking about what he wants and just sits on his broke ass

[Snoopy]

After looking over the titles and the brigading going on with the votes (To put into perspective, when Elden Ring had voting it got 200 votes over 7 days, Dragon's Dogma 2 got 120 votes over 8 days... Stellar Blade 450 votes in less than 24 hours).
Thus Seoulsborne will be the winner of the OT title. As it was the highest rated title that was also inclusive of others and didn't see impact from brigading.

Not up for debate or change.

[Straight Edge]

They have a lot of balls calling men “horny creeps” for Eve’s design when they want to fuck cartoon animals.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

They have a lot of balls calling men “horny creeps” for Eve’s design when they want to fuck cartoon animals.

A single like just doesn't feel like a powerful enough response to this.

[HaughtyFrank]

They have a lot of balls calling men “horny creeps” for Eve’s design when they want to fuck cartoon animals.

The woman on RE do have a surprising amount of them

[kaleidoscopium]

Wow, the votes must be rigged because Stellar Blade just happened to be more popular than Elden Ring. We already know jawmuncher is a cis white man but this confirms it, and he’s now a certified misogynist.

[kaleidoscopium]

I also appreciated the video but it does come from a strong socialist lense which is inherently critical of capital and how it operates. There are many on this forum that are not receptive to that kind of messaging.

It comes from a guy who made a video conflating socialism with authoritarianism, who does a podcast with a dude who has made videos defending Stalin and North Korea...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/house-approves-sell-or-be-banned-tiktok-measure-attaching-it-to-foreign-aid-bill.849453/page-14?post=121978920#post-121978920

B dumbs realizing he’s catered to extremists so long that this is normal for his site. Also his name is capitalized again

[benji]

After looking over the titles and the brigading going on with the votes (To put into perspective, when Elden Ring had voting it got 200 votes over 7 days, Dragon's Dogma 2 got 120 votes over 8 days... Stellar Blade 450 votes in less than 24 hours).
Thus Seoulsborne will be the winner of the OT title. As it was the highest rated title that was also inclusive of others and didn't see impact from brigading.

Not up for debate or change.

"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." - Joseph Stalin

[JoeBoy101]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-previews-demo-thread-staff-post-threadmarked.831270/page-80?post=121974813#post-121974813

Calling other people toothless while vague subtweeting yourself is an interesting combination I will say. I can only assume me though, right, since I seem to find myself having to justify the things I like these days to people with the most basic etch-a-sketch understanding of me. It's just kind of weird considering I'm pretty sure I didn't post in any other Stellar Blade related thread (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc.) prior to this one where I basically did what I've been doing in any Stellar Blade discussion; called out the over-sexualisation and noted the nature of how such designs appeal can differ between the men they're designed for and women who like them. I spent half of my posts throwing shots at Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Oh and this one I guess, where I called out someone for trying to guilt a woman by invoking other women who like the game and said people should be free to voice their criticism. I don't think any of that is particularly diligent though. The second post I made on SB in the sexualised characters thread was this, which touches on a frustration I've voiced pretty openly since:

Honestly miffed that yet again another game with interesting visual design elements is just mired in shit. Like on the green outfit there's this strip of transparent plastic over her shoulders with a Louis Vuitton-esque pattern done as a hologram between the layers of it. It's genuinely cool… but then you get a glowing light on her crotch and the seam line running down it is a markedly different shade to the rest because you know, you really have to emphasise there is a vagina there.

Then yeh, again, you have whatever this suit is lol

It's just like, can we get the intricate and heavily detailed femme costumes without needing to collide them with the imagination of some horny creep.

It's stupid it needs to be said but I'm not required to bind myself for the sake of maintaining whatever image of me you have in my head, of which people have many. If wanting to play Stellar Blade while being critical of its issues and having long conversations about the male gaze and how it relates to hyper-femininity – and how high-femmes deal with accusations of internalised misogyny for liking what we like – is what fractures some perception of me then it was too fragile to begin with. I'm not the one who built me up into something that could be blown over by your own disappointment. I think we should be critical of the shit elements of things that appeal to us or we engage with, if that's some line in the sand for you then ignore me and move on. People who want to discuss their report card of me can DM me, sniping with the lens cap on is just petty.

Sounds like some ‘Both Sides’ CHUD rhetoric to me.

[benji]

I also appreciated the video but it does come from a strong socialist lense which is inherently critical of capital and how it operates. There are many on this forum that are not receptive to that kind of messaging.

It comes from a guy who made a video conflating socialism with authoritarianism, who does a podcast with a dude who has made videos defending Stalin and North Korea...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/house-approves-sell-or-be-banned-tiktok-measure-attaching-it-to-foreign-aid-bill.849453/page-14?post=121978920#post-121978920

B dumbs realizing he’s catered to extremists so long that this is normal for his site. Also his name is capitalized again

So the critique is that he made an accurate video about socialism?

Speaking of which, does Nepenthe know you've re-capitalized? Presumably off of emotional labor you stole from her.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[Snoopy]

2nd time in the past week. But hey, at least this time the offender was too cowardly to call you out by name. I hope it won't deter you from posting your thoughts (good and bad) in the OT.

Also good choice for the title, mods. Hopefully everyone is happy now…or at least not mad.

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-previews-demo-thread-staff-post-threadmarked.831270/page-80?post=121974813#post-121974813

Calling other people toothless while vague subtweeting yourself is an interesting combination I will say. I can only assume me though, right, since I seem to find myself having to justify the things I like these days to people with the most basic etch-a-sketch understanding of me. It's just kind of weird considering I'm pretty sure I didn't post in any other Stellar Blade related thread (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc.) prior to this one where I basically did what I've been doing in any Stellar Blade discussion; called out the over-sexualisation and noted the nature of how such designs appeal can differ between the men they're designed for and women who like them. I spent half of my posts throwing shots at Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Oh and this one I guess, where I called out someone for trying to guilt a woman by invoking other women who like the game and said people should be free to voice their criticism. I don't think any of that is particularly diligent though. The second post I made on SB in the sexualised characters thread was this, which touches on a frustration I've voiced pretty openly since:

Honestly miffed that yet again another game with interesting visual design elements is just mired in shit. Like on the green outfit there's this strip of transparent plastic over her shoulders with a Louis Vuitton-esque pattern done as a hologram between the layers of it. It's genuinely cool… but then you get a glowing light on her crotch and the seam line running down it is a markedly different shade to the rest because you know, you really have to emphasise there is a vagina there.

Then yeh, again, you have whatever this suit is lol

It's just like, can we get the intricate and heavily detailed femme costumes without needing to collide them with the imagination of some horny creep.

It's stupid it needs to be said but I'm not required to bind myself for the sake of maintaining whatever image of me you have in my head, of which people have many. If wanting to play Stellar Blade while being critical of its issues and having long conversations about the male gaze and how it relates to hyper-femininity – and how high-femmes deal with accusations of internalised misogyny for liking what we like – is what fractures some perception of me then it was too fragile to begin with. I'm not the one who built me up into something that could be blown over by your own disappointment. I think we should be critical of the shit elements of things that appeal to us or we engage with, if that's some line in the sand for you then ignore me and move on. People who want to discuss their report card of me can DM me, sniping with the lens cap on is just petty.

It's messed up that you even felt the need to make this post.

No one has the right to judge you for liking this game.

....if you're Kuntuuji. 


It's like when you are in a cult and the leader forbids sex for everyone else but bangs all the women they want because god said it's ok for them. If you point out the Emperor Has No Clothes you are told they are wearing the most magnificent outfit and then banned. 

This dude shits in the members mouths and tells them it's chocolate ice cream and they not only lap it up they ask for more. 

I've never seen the term "gaslighting" used more than on Reee but somehow they can't seem to recognize when it's happening to them. Reee is like an ongoing Milgram Experiment. If someone in a rainbow lab coat told them to give a maximum fatal shock to somebody that bought Hogwarts, they would. 

With the amount of  that goes on in that place some university should study it. If we could find a cure or vaccine to prevent extreme cases of "Acute Hypocrisy"  from infecting others we can at least enjoy what time we have left before the world melts, floods or dries up.

[benji]

Nobody's judging Kyuuji for anything, they're simply stating the well known fact that supporting Stellar Blade is endorsing the chud agenda pushed by Joanne and the Cass Report. If Kyuuji wishes to make clear that they don't care about marginalized people and wants to dismiss concerns about the harm to all women that Stellar Blade is causing then that's their choice. Just like when they dismissed concerns of Indigenous people and told them shutting the fuck up is free because they're trying to watch Avatar 2 for the 15th time.

[Snoopy]

The tide is turning

[kaleidoscopium]

B dumbs vs Thordison right now is pretty great  

From there, nobody has to do a podcast with a dude who defends North Korea and thinks Stalin did nothing wrong. That's a choice he's made and it says quite a bit about him that this is a thing he's willing to do.

We've literally got people in here dismissing entire news sources for their diction in headlines and yet apparently this stuff, which is far worse, is perfectly ok?

Sure. Accepted MSM sources here have given platforms to Nazis and transphobes. I'd imagine that says a lot about them?

It's not solely about diction in headlines, it's the language they use throughout their articles which is dehumanizing. Not to mention that they've spread misinformation themselves.

There's a pretty big goddamned difference between interviewing someone and actively doing a show with them and you know that. Then again, I shouldn't be surprised at your response.

I'm not talking about interviewing someone. The NYT, for example, published an opinion from someone defending JK Rowling. GLAAD has called them out for their coverage of trans folks. They hold

Then again, I shouldn't be surprised at your defense.

Whatever, not worth my time.

Turns out b dumbs edited his message but thor responded to the original 

I'm not the one going to bat for anyone you dingus. I'm pointing out the blatant hypocrisy, of which you're taking part in.

Whatever, not worth my time.

I thought you were when you assumed it was about interviewing and you said that folks were only upset about diction in headlines which clearly wasn't the case.

My mistake then.

And that’s where it ends for now! 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/house-approves-sell-or-be-banned-tiktok-measure-attaching-it-to-foreign-aid-bill.849453/page-15?post=121981725#post-121981725

[DocWager]

That place is so fucking stupid.

[kaleidoscopium]

I don't think anyone was named or shamed here: more like a couple posters observed that the thread went from extremely hostile to pro-SB. That's not a single person's responsibility, but it did strike me personally as noteworthy and highly uncharacteristic of this forum as a whole.

This stands out even more because in the first half, people were being dogpiled and catching bans (some permanent IIRC) for saying things that a few pages of posts later are essentially standard commentary now. I can't say what others are doing behind their computer screens, but from front to back, the vibes in this thread feels genuinely like a memo went out or something (this is not a literal presumption, just a metaphor for how quickly the tone pivoted).

I hesitate to expand the area of discussion, but as a quick point of reference, it would be like if the next Kingdom Come game dropped and, 50 pages into the thread, everyone almost summarily drops the discussion of the gamergate-related history of the game, starts posting fancams of Henry, and acting like mention of Vavra are only intended to troll and attack others...that would be weird if that happened! And it is weird that something similar to that happened here.

Anyone can play whatever they want, but I don't think there's any merit in twisting ourselves in rhetorical knots to say that the appeal of Stellar Blade is something other than what it so clearly is. Especially after the hammer came down so hard on early thread posters who were essentially doing just that. That this thread is suddenly a "judgment-free zone" when it most certainly wasn't a few dozen pages ago is impossible to miss.

That's noteworthy, and no one is harmed by having that pointed out. I don't think it's worth going after or picking on individual posters, but it's probably worth reflecting on as a community, in terms of how vicious we are in run-of-the-mill disagreements, and how malleable our own attitudes are even on a short timescale.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-previews-demo-thread-staff-post-threadmarked.831270/page-81?post=121982337#post-121982337

Cult walls are shaking rn, discord messages are flying