Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[ComeAgain]

I wish the Costumes weren't a thing so bad, it would be so easy to get behind this developer otherwise.

Well, there's also the accusation that they fired women for having "feminist" views. So it goes beyond the costumes. (I'd say it's a big part of what makes the costumes and character design as problematic as they are.)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-previews-demo-thread-staff-post-threadmarked.831270/page-85?post=122049960#post-122049960

*fired 2 contractors for bringing up inappropriate questions during a shareholder meeting...

whole lot of women leftover on the team too

Legitimately looks like more women in that picture than you see in most US game studios. No wonder they don’t talk about this over in Bully Land.

[benji]

Constructive:

With the OT going up this Wednesday, I'm inquiring again on the possibility of getting a note added to the Stellar Blade OT about the developers misogynistic history when it gets made? Thank you.

Not against a note, but shouldn't this then also be applied to any Ubisoft, Activision, Blizzard etc. game?

The answer to this is, honestly, “not really.”

This isn’t a transitive thing. It is, properly, a case by case thing where community discourse, in combination with the specific factors at play, occasionally reaches a threshold where it makes sense to start doing things like adding notes, containing discussion, or straight up banning discussion altogether.

Adding notes to the Stellar Blade OT but not this or that OT isn’t a statement that only Stellar Blade out of those is worth scrutinizing. It’s a statement that the situation around the game is such that our community feels explicitly pointing out some of its problematic elements that way is needed. Maybe there are external factors at play adding to the discomfort around those elements (e.g. Stellar Blade becoming a focal point of so-called GamerGate 2.0), maybe some of them have been underreported (e.g. the firing of feminist employees), maybe the discourse around the game has been conflicted in a way that it would simply benefit from establishing a very visible baseline for acknowledging its issues.

Either way, the point is this: inevitably, this kind of action isn’t just about the presence of negative elements around a game, but also whether or not our community feels galvanized to ask for some kind of action. Calls for perfect consistency in this “why this and not that?” form tend to be incredibly off base for that reason (and others I won’t go into here).

And I say all this as someone who thinks it isn’t really necessary to add notes to the Stellar Blade OT beyond maybe a few sentences in the opening post acknowledging problematic elements and warning people not to be dismissive of criticism.

Thank you for making this point so clearly.

Yes, thank you for making the point clearly that the community doesn't give a single shit about women committing suicide from sexual harassment that was potentially criminal and that the staff handwaved by smearing every developer in the industry as much as it cares about some slightly over the top female body models in a random ass game because it upsets some mentally ill shut-ins who feel awkward about their fetishes and think it needs to be everyone else's problems for the rest of eternity.

Oh, hey, would you look at the time I still have five more reports about Joanne to make to the Scottish Police. #ACAB #JusticeForNex

[Ribosome]

Motherfuckers just switch back to Snapchat or Instagram or Facebook. They all have the same dumb videos for your ADHD brains. The difference is they're aren't backed by one of the worst regimes on the planet, and any of these retard tankies who think America is even one tenth as bad as the Chinese government should fucking move there.

Reeee is filled with morons but TikTok's product (such as it is) is legitimately "better" and they are kicking the shit out of the legacy platforms for a reason.  

Facebook in particular is embarrassingly bad and outright appears to be a zombie platform at this point.

[benji]

They talk about the wonders of TikTok on a forum where they can't even say that anyone who supports Biden is complicit in multiple genocides. Or call out the collective nation of Jewish people.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/senate-passes-95-billion-package-sending-aid-to-ukraine-israel-l-taiwan-includes-repo-act-tiktok-after-months-of-delay.852096/page-2?post=122062101#post-122062101

So great that bipartisan came through!!! Big win for both parties and the American public to help fund the fight against democracy

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/senate-passes-95-billion-package-sending-aid-to-ukraine-israel-l-taiwan-includes-repo-act-tiktok-after-months-of-delay.852096/page-2?post=122062050#post-122062050

User Banned (Permanent): Inflammatory points of comparision

This, sad as it is. In terms of which has the bigger impact to the current world order, its stability, and thus to the most number of lives, keeping Russia and China at bay is the most important thing. Obviously, we can't give up on getting justice and aid for the Palestinian people. But it will unfortunately have to be via a separate effort from this legislation.

this might get me banned, but screw it. people do realize Ukraine and palastine are on the opposite sides of this conflict right? iran is the biggest supplier of hamas, which is the efective goverment of gaza currently. they also have been sending drones and missiles to Russia to uses agenst Ukraine. turns out global allances are messy. thats why there wasnt any way to help both.

[benji]

What's the comparison supposed to be in that post?

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/senate-passes-95-billion-package-sending-aid-to-ukraine-israel-l-taiwan-includes-repo-act-tiktok-after-months-of-delay.852096/page-2?post=122062050#post-122062050

User Banned (Permanent): Inflammatory points of comparision

This, sad as it is. In terms of which has the bigger impact to the current world order, its stability, and thus to the most number of lives, keeping Russia and China at bay is the most important thing. Obviously, we can't give up on getting justice and aid for the Palestinian people. But it will unfortunately have to be via a separate effort from this legislation.

this might get me banned, but screw it. people do realize Ukraine and palastine are on the opposite sides of this conflict right? iran is the biggest supplier of hamas, which is the efective goverment of gaza currently. they also have been sending drones and missiles to Russia to uses agenst Ukraine. turns out global allances are messy. thats why there wasnt any way to help both.

There is only good guys and bad guys, chuds.  

[Besticus Maximus]

Just banning people for being insufficiently enthusiastic about destroying Israel now. I wonder which cunt Mod that was no I don't lol

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Dang. Is this what the Bush era warned us about with home grown terrorists? 

[benji]

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[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Biden is gonna win in my state anyway so I'm just gonna vote on the local and state ballots.

Dang what a rebel.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

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Why does this social life read as logging into an MMO?

[Nintex]

Biden is gonna win in my state anyway so I'm just gonna vote on the local and state ballots.

Dang what a rebel.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/POStrategies/status/1782817103348666731?t=pQBX-4CbonU8OYMFv3E6ag&s=19[/tweet]

Seems like a trend

[Snoopy]

Trans ree rejoice. Your virtual girlfriends are nearly here

[Besticus Maximus]

I do not care for a Jennifer Lopez in my day in general, however I am quite taken aback with the casual misogyny thrown her way on there for the crime of being old and trying to do stuff. Seems an odd character to lash out at.

[Uncle]

I've read this kind of shit a lot, where they're like "omg starting estrogen and I can't stop weeping, mood swings are insane" or "ughhh first month of estrogen and I can feel my mind slowing down, harder to focus, becoming the ditzy blonde I always wanted to be"

sure sounds like doing this stuff is causing some serious issues to your body and mind?? yet these people are like "it's a miracle drug, I have to have it, got a huge supply of it so I can stay on it"

[Besticus Maximus]

You know what drug literally cures everything? A little drug called Placebo, and guess what JOANNE it's in every single double blind trial 

[Straight Edge]

It's actually much older:

In a 1993 paper titled "The Five Sexes", Fausto-Sterling laid out a thought experiment considering an alternative model of gender containing five sexes: male, female, merm, ferm, and herm.[3] She later said that the paper "had intended to be provocative, but I had also written with tongue firmly in cheek".[4]

Fausto-Sterling has written two books intended for a general audience. The first of those books, Myths of Gender, was first published in 1985.[5] Her second book for the general public is Sexing the Body: Gender Politics and the Construction of Sexuality, published in 2000.[6][7] In the book she sets out to "convince readers of the need for theories that allow for a good deal of human variation and that integrate the analytical powers of the biological and the social into the systematic analysis of human development."[8]

"As in her now classic book, Myths of Gender, Fausto-Sterling draws on a wealth of scientific and medical information, along with social, anthropological and feminist theory, to make the case that "choosing which criteria to use in determining sex, and choosing to make the determination at all, are social decisions for which scientists can offer no absolute guidelines.""

These books were demolished at the time (hence her claim that it was "tongue-in-cheek" after being criticized even though she didn't really change her opinion after) but were rediscovered as scientific sources around the same time that Judith Butler's similarly older works were being elevated to a religious canon as the first half of the incorrect premises.

this view of 5 sexes was fairly clearly dismantled in a relatively easy to understand deconstruction, I believe it was called the fermi paradox

That’s totally something a Merm would say

[Potato]

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None of these things are real life, right? 

Why the fuck is this idiot talking about a social life?

[Daffy Duck]

Idk but the OT launching later today will have a staff post and rightfully so

So Queen cunt is happy it’s getting a staff post, but will they gladly be playing the full game to the autistic level they played the demo?

This bitch can get fucked

[kaleidoscopium]

People have “sex” parties in final fantasy online? What is wrong with these people

[Daffy Duck]

They’re all fucking sexual predators I swear

[Snoopy]

I wish they’d hurry up and get to the surgeries. Waiting to donate to Shred’s dilator gofundme

[kaleidoscopium]

Kept seeing the retards saying “IOF” in threads lately, thought it was some dumb typo or slang, turns out it’s a stupid slur 

Israel Occupation Forces or Israel Offensive Forces, pejorative terms for the Israel Defense Forces in Palestine

Only someone who’s mind is fully cooked via tiktok would think that’s clever

[killamajig]

They’re all fucking sexual predators I swear

I think all the stupid shit they are into (or not into) is because of some sexual disfunction.

[Steven Snell]

They’re all fucking sexual predators I swear

They're all over the place though. One second they're the biggest prudes ever, but then on the other they're like the horniest people on the planet. Which amazingly go for absolute borefests like Morrigan too.

Which of course doesn't even count for all the creepy shit they're usually into.

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I say this unfortunately having shared a discord server with her years ago. She's honestly a bit of a slut.

[killamajig]

"I'm so gay!!"    uwu

No you are not. 

You are a dude that wants to sneak into womens spaces because you are a pervy weirdo that can't get near real women without a disguise and a court order. That's why the transvestites have to get other dumbshit soft-heart libs to cosign their nonsense with threats of suicide if they don't get their way.

[Besticus Maximus]

Since we're approaching the end of the thread I just wanted to say thanks for the ride to the regular peeps here I've interacted with over the past few weeks. There's been a few bumps along the way but by and large where it settled was nice. Critical discussion of the demo alongside cool media and general chat (cheese base instead of tomato, double chorizo, fried onions, peppers – amazing pizza). I look forward to when release dies down and the OT levels out at, hopefully, a similar cadence. Hope to see you all there.

[kaleidoscopium]

Stellar blade reviews incoming any minute now, leaked reviews look promising so expect a meltdown