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[benji]

Looks like Brianna Wu, noted trans activisit and Gamergater, just setup and confirmed a discussion between Destiny and Ana Kasperian

What will resetera say about this, or will they try to ignore it

Typical cishet white woman helping 100% confirmed fascists, what else is new?

[Venice]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stanley-tucci-goes-foot-in-mouth-by-saying-he-thinks-it-fine-for-straight-people-to-play-gay-characters.738516/

Is always nice to see how insane are the most terrible posters of the site.

From Kyuuji, in that same thread:

It's worse. If you really can't find a trans woman to play a trans woman (and you can, if you really want to) then at least have a woman play the role. Having a cisgender man playing a trans woman just works to reinforce transphobic notions that we are men acting as women.

Oh really, you fucking disgusting hypocritical cunt?

Because you and your fellow trans assholes had such a great reaction to Scarlett Johnasson playing a transwoman, she left the role and the film never got made:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/scarlett-johansson-leaves-rub-tug-following-transgender-casting-backlash.55215/

[benji]

From Kyuuji, in that same thread:

Having a cisgender man playing a trans woman just works to reinforce transphobic notions that we are men acting as women.

How do you know they're a cisgender man? What if they're non-binary like Ezra Miller (they/them)? Stop gatekeeping trans identity and dismissing concerns of representation, fascist.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stanley-tucci-goes-foot-in-mouth-by-saying-he-thinks-it-fine-for-straight-people-to-play-gay-characters.738516/page-2#post-108484878

Your title is worded in such an antagonist fashion that you’re obviously fishing for people to be angry as well. You could have framed the thread around “Is it ok for straight actors to play gay characters?” and presented your POV (which is valid) but this whole thing comes off as trying to start a dogpile against *checks notes* veteran character actor Stanley Tucci.

It's okay to dogpile on straight people for being stupid blinkered fuckwits.

[benji]

I always knew Stanley Tucci was a piece of shit even if he had been in Captain America, Kevin Feige probably wasn't on the ball perfectly to know fascists would want to appear in the MCU to boost their brand. It's not surprising looking back knowing what we know now what role he played in Lucky Number Slevin. When somebody tells you who they are, listen.

[clockwork5]

So not a peep on resetera about the black, trans person who went on a killing spree in Philadelphia yesterday with assault rifles and body armor??

Do those people even care about gun violence?

[Boredfrom]

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So not a peep on resetera about the black, trans person who went on a killing spree in Philadelphia yesterday with assault rifles and body armor??

Do those people even care about gun violence?

Source?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stanley-tucci-goes-foot-in-mouth-by-saying-he-thinks-it-fine-for-straight-people-to-play-gay-characters.738516/page-3#post-108485781

I love you and I don't have a dog in this fight because it's not my place to comment on but do you feel the same for every instance?

Maybe I'm off base but I always assumed things like Leto in Dallas Buyers Club and Redmayne in The Danish Girl where parts that highlighted the trans struggle and well recieved in and outside of the trans community. I'm absolutely for trans actors in trans roles but it's not always as simple as that for hollywood (it should be absolutely) but they need star power and to justify investment and sometimes it's the only way these stories reach mainstream attention and get that "reach" because a bigger actor is attatched.

I'm genuinly curious here and would like some elaboration for discussions sake

I will discuss on this that I see absolutely zero nuance for trans roles, vs the discussion of Gay/les/bi. We are at the point in time where we are in the path of genocide. Having a cis person play a trans person, no matter how much they study, can have any feel what a trans life is like.

[clockwork5]

Sources for the Philly mass shooting. Sorry 😞

https://abc7ny.com/amp/philadelphia-mass-shooting-kimbrady-carriker-kingsessing-people-shot-in-philly/13459020/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12264195/PICTURED-Cross-dressing-gunman-July-4-Philly-bloodbath-left-five-dead-BLM-supporter.html

Edit: Also I know a few of the more prominent members reside here and it’s fairly big local news. It’s almost like they are willing to, should I say “cover up” these incidents if they don’t fit the narrative.

[Boredfrom]

Oh boy. 

I still will wait for a confirmation outside of the Daily Mail, but that dude sounds like a RE regular.

[clockwork5]

1688516357[/url]']
Oh boy. 

I still will wait for a confirmation outside of the Daily Mail, but that dude sounds like a RE regular.

It’s known. Philly Inquirer is, should I say, “covering up” some of the details about the killer.

[books]

The Boston horror house with the dead person and kids locked up and everyone crossdressing with drugs and dildos all over the place ended up just being a domestic dispute.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stanley-tucci-goes-foot-in-mouth-by-saying-he-thinks-it-fine-for-straight-people-to-play-gay-characters.738516/page-3#post-108486063

This is because monosexuals devalue the bi identity.

Don't get me started.

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/stanley-tucci-goes-foot-in-mouth-by-saying-he-thinks-it-fine-for-straight-people-to-play-gay-characters.738516/page-3#post-108486174

Not sure how bringing this is up is "stirring outrage". I legitimately thought it was something very agreed on here, but I was wrong.

You need a poll. You’re just going by some responses

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stanley-tucci-goes-foot-in-mouth-by-saying-he-thinks-it-fine-for-straight-people-to-play-gay-characters.738516/page-4#post-108486591

I feel like I'm missing something, like legitimately, about why sexual and gender orientation aren't treated in at least some kind of a similar way to race. It's a way that you were born, and cannot be changed, and is under fire. I'm saying this in response to the couple posts that have said that.

A person going through their life journey of being lgbtq+ is not something that can just be self interpretated by a cis ans/or straight person.

 

[Uncle]

Sources for the Philly mass shooting. Sorry 😞

https://abc7ny.com/amp/philadelphia-mass-shooting-kimbrady-carriker-kingsessing-people-shot-in-philly/13459020/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12264195/PICTURED-Cross-dressing-gunman-July-4-Philly-bloodbath-left-five-dead-BLM-supporter.html

Edit: Also I know a few of the more prominent members reside here and it’s fairly big local news. It’s almost like they are willing to, should I say “cover up” these incidents if they don’t fit the narrative.

I notice your local source conspicuously refuses to use a pronoun for the shooter

CNN is incredibly transphobic though

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/04/us/philadelphia-shooting-motive-suspect-tuesday/index.html

Suspected gunman in mass shooting that left 5 dead fired randomly at victims, Philadelphia police say

[Boredfrom]

I feel like I'm missing something, like legitimately, about why sexual and gender orientation aren't treated in at least some kind of a similar way to race. It's a way that you were born, and cannot be changed, and is under fire. I'm saying this in response to the couple posts that have said that.

A person going through their life journey of being lgbtq+ is not something that can just be self interpretated by a cis ans/or straight person.

Who is going to be the brave dude that is going to mention Rachel Dolezal.

Also, then what the fuck is gender fluid or the otherkin shit?

[Uncle]

two pages for you to correct:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Philadelphia_Kingsessing_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States

you know, just like this other correction:



I wish they'd collectively decide whether their identity ought to be respected without exception, or quietly hidden when it's problematic

[Boredfrom]

1688516629[/url]']
The Boston horror house with the dead person and kids locked up and everyone crossdressing with drugs and dildos all over the place ended up just being a domestic dispute.

From a rapid google search:

https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2023/06/29/boston-councilor-slams-colleagues-who-spread-stories-about-sex-toys-and-drugs-in-bha-apartment/?amp=1

Days later:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/06/30/metro/boston-city-councilor-lara-crashes-car-into-jamaica-plain-house-with-son-backseat/

(BTW the house of horrors story seem really fucking bizarre. )

[Uncle]

[Boredfrom]

1688517602[/url]']
two pages for you to correct:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Philadelphia_Kingsessing_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States

you know, just like this other correction:



I wish they'd collectively decide whether their identity ought to be respected without exception, or quietly hidden when it's problematic

In that regard, it should be based entirely in Wikipedia policy about this rather that if the killer deserves the pronouns. That’s the whole point of having a editing policy. 

[kaleidoscopium]

Am I crazy or do they not have a single thread about the Philadelphia shooter? Or did they memory hole it because of this news?

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stanley-tucci-goes-foot-in-mouth-by-saying-he-thinks-it-fine-for-straight-people-to-play-gay-characters.738516/page-3#post-108485781

I love you and I don't have a dog in this fight because it's not my place to comment on but do you feel the same for every instance?

Maybe I'm off base but I always assumed things like Leto in Dallas Buyers Club and Redmayne in The Danish Girl where parts that highlighted the trans struggle and well recieved in and outside of the trans community. I'm absolutely for trans actors in trans roles but it's not always as simple as that for hollywood (it should be absolutely) but they need star power and to justify investment and sometimes it's the only way these stories reach mainstream attention and get that "reach" because a bigger actor is attatched.

I'm genuinly curious here and would like some elaboration for discussions sake

I will discuss on this that I see absolutely zero nuance for trans roles, vs the discussion of Gay/les/bi. We are at the point in time where we are in the path of genocide. Having a cis person play a trans person, no matter how much they study, can have any feel what a trans life is like.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stanley-tucci-goes-foot-in-mouth-by-saying-he-thinks-it-fine-for-straight-people-to-play-gay-characters.738516/page-4#post-108486591

I feel like I'm missing something, like legitimately, about why sexual and gender orientation aren't treated in at least some kind of a similar way to race. It's a way that you were born, and cannot be changed, and is under fire. I'm saying this in response to the couple posts that have said that.

A person going through their life journey of being lgbtq+ is not something that can just be self interpretated by a cis ans/or straight person.

I know I just did this joke but why is gender/race the only thing to consider here? Like, I bet not a single actor on Grey's Anatomy and ER were ever doctors. No matter how much they study this they wouldn't have any feeling what a doctor's life is like.

This is where you hit like on this post because I didn't go for the MCU and nobody's ever been Iron Man low hanging fruit.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stanley-tucci-goes-foot-in-mouth-by-saying-he-thinks-it-fine-for-straight-people-to-play-gay-characters.738516/page-3#post-108486063

Thread locked at OP's request. We will also be going through reports and posts regardless.

Clicky cal is such a little bitch

[Snoopy]

Speaking of Philly. Remember during the lockdowns when everybody was talking about how bad Kensington had become? I searched YT the other day to see what it was like now. I expected it would have been cleaned up but nope. It's still a zombie apocalypse.

[Potato]

Love Kyuuji giving speeches while others carry on talking around her. I wonder how many have her ignored.

How many members are there that haven't been banned yet?

It's gotta be close to a 1:1 ratio, right?

[Uncle]

Am I crazy or do they not have a single thread about the Philadelphia shooter? Or did they memory hole it because of this news?

remember: no shock threads

no bad news for the sake of bad news, and shootings happen in america all the time, this one isn't unique, or something

[Uncle]

I know I just did this joke but why is gender/race the only thing to consider here? Like, I bet not a single actor on Grey's Anatomy and ER were ever doctors. No matter how much they study this they wouldn't have any feeling what a doctor's life is like.

This is where you hit like on this post because I didn't go for the MCU and nobody's ever been Iron Man low hanging fruit.

because choosing to become a doctor is not an immutable characteristic of a person's body and existence

now what you should ask is why it's ok for a brown-eyed actor to play a novel character described as blue-eyed

[Potato]

Real talk. Them constantly complaining about being fetishized honestly comes off as wishful thinking. The vast, vast majority of people have no such fetish. It's like if Biden were complaining about constantly being sniffed by young girls.

might be surprised, they've shown up as "most popular porn search term" on various US states for years

most recent one, it's west virginia

 

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Judging by that graphic, you misread it. It's not a most popular search term in that graphic. It's that West Virginia searches for it more than other states, proportionally speaking, as all other search terms in all other states are compared against each other. That's why there are so many different terms for all the different states, with only a few that are repeats. Seems like they take the national average use of each term, then for each state, check which term in that state deviates the most from the average. No state is gonna have "dirty talk" as their absolute number 1 search term.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Never engage the crazies

https://www.resetera.com/threads/filming-wraps-on-fede-%C3%81lvarezs-alien-movie.738426/post-108475941

I would argue that even the first Don't Breathe isn't that great. After my recent rewatch, I especially had a lot of issues with the last 25 minutes and the whole twist of the movie.

But Álvarez also made Evil Dead 2013, which is one of my favorite horror movies ever. And Calls was also very much entertaining. So yeah, like I said I guess I have mixed feelings about Fede Álvarez.

But since I generally like the Alien franchise, I'm very much willing to give benefit of the doubt to him for this one. Let's hope the quality will be closer to Evil Dead 2013.

Genuine question, did you think you were funny with 6 out of 10 turkey basters?

Sure! Look at my other reviews, I always rate the movies using an item or an idea that I think stand out in the movie. It's just for fun, lol!

Including devices used for rape...

Ah come on now look at the context... it's a movie review. And it's all for fun :\

It's fun to make light of rape?

No it's not fun. And I don't. Stop. You're going way too far.

Edit:
Also, did you actually read the review I wrote??

No, as a victim myself, you went too far. You looked at a movie that went all in on the villain being a rapist, and thought it was okay to go all in on Turkey basters for your review.

Again, I'm not making fun of any of it. Look at the context and read the review I wrote. Just stop.

What context makes six out of ten Turkey basters better?

Look, I'm sorry I wrote something that offended you. Genuinely. You must know it wasn't my intention to make fun of any of it. At all. But... aren't we on the same side concerning this movie? I actually didn't like my rewatch because of that whole ending. And I think I made it pretty clear in my review.

Again, sorry I offended you, it wasn't my intention at

"I'm sorry that I offended"

"We are on the same side"

Just stop. I don't want to empty my heart out about how I was r**ed in a thread about fucking Alien.

But in showing me that we are same sides, with the link to your review, you made things worse. And that's all I have to say.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/filming-wraps-on-fede-%C3%81lvarezs-alien-movie.738426/page-2#post-108476355
TheGummyBear

User Threadbanned (Permanent): Inflammatory accusations and derailing across multiple posts

Ah come on now look at the context... it's a movie review. And it's all for fun :\

TheGummyBear

It's fun to make light of rape?

[Potato]

From Kyuuji, in that same thread:

Having a cisgender man playing a trans woman just works to reinforce transphobic notions that we are men acting as women.

How do you know they're a cisgender man? What if they're non-binary like Ezra Miller (they/them)? Stop gatekeeping trans identity and dismissing concerns of representation, fascist.

What would the reaction be if a male actor just declared "they/them" pronouns prior to casting and then went back to using "he/him" immediately after?

It's all about self-identification anyway.

[kaleidoscopium]

From Kyuuji, in that same thread:

How do you know they're a cisgender man? What if they're non-binary like Ezra Miller (they/them)? Stop gatekeeping trans identity and dismissing concerns of representation, fascist.

What would the reaction be if a male actor just declared "they/them" pronouns prior to casting and then went back to using "he/him" immediately after?

It's all about self-identification anyway.

If Ezra Miller comes out of therapy and cures his Alien Jesus complex (this is why he claims to be a they/them) and starts going by he/him like a normal person again Era is going to have a complete meltdown