Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Uncle]

was going to ask "what should musk be doing that he's not" but the answer is clearly "enforce the same standards as era and ban people left and right"

it's always about banning with them, the fear that if people simply hear other ideas that they'll find them more compelling than their own

right now on twitter you literally have equal opportunity to behave the way you like, go argue with the chuds all day, change the culture for the better!

if that makes you "so exhausted" because you HAVE to engage and the chuds aren't getting banned so it feels like there's a never ending stream of them...ask yourself why the same doesn't apply to them

why don't the chuds get tired, do you think?

[kaleidoscopium]

Fellow in that thread actually falls for Chinese disinformation by thinking the Uyghurs actual genocide was over  

FYI, that program seems to have been ended in 2019 according to WaPo in 2022. It's slightly less dystopian there now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/23/china-xinjiang-crackdown-uyghurs-surveillance/

Actually, not so much dude: https://uhrp.org/insights/uhrp-anal...ed-in-region-with-worlds-highest-prison-rate/

It's just as bad, they just moved the buildings. Your stuff is totally out of date

I don't know much about UHRP, but the methodology in how they derived that number seems questionable (that you can take national conviction numbers and apply it here, and that the province is still giving out the same sentences as during the height of the crackdown.) .

But those convictions number shows that repression peaked in 2019 and have been dramatically reduced since then. How is it 'just as bad' ?


https://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/detention-camps-09162023105933.html

Radio Free Asia (safe to say shares the US Viewpoint) cites an outside group with a much smaller number.

You are misunderstanding that article and in reality the situation continues to worsen, but China just obfuscates more how they do it such as false charges leading to imprisonment, https://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/imprisonment-rate-report-05022024144951.html . On top of these numbers, the internment camps are still ongoing. Anything saying the opposite is playing down an ongoing genocide.

But hey, you do you.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tiktok-sues-u-s-government-saying-potential-ban-violates-first-amendment.864363/page-7?post=122664831#post-122664831

[Not an Alt Account]

Our good friend the "broke" divorcee  nothing loud really likes to flex with his rig on reeeee:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hades-ii-early-access-ot-helldiver.863289/page-10?post=122663046#post-122663046

Which in this case it's particularly dumb because hades 2 has 3 graphics presets and can run on a toaster.

He should buy more god awful Ambi light for his setup.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-weve-heard-your-feedback-the-may-6-helldivers-2-update-will-not-be-moving-forward.862866/page-25?post=122609178#post-122609178

User Banned (1 Month): Accusations of Bootlicking; Antagonizing Fellow Members; Platform Warring; History of Inflammatory Commentary

This has been a terrible situation for both Sony and gamers, but it's been a boon for my ignore list. We've got corporate bootlickers coming out of the woodwork to defend Sony and slander PC gamers as a whole.

Bottom line, tech issues on Sony's end and their lack of understanding in the PC gaming industry led to this situation. Hopefully, they've learned something and we can all move on (except the bootlickers cuz they gotta lick boots).

[kaleidoscopium]

I just don't think I'll be welcome and I don't think this harmful legislation will get revised until I'm in a nursing home, DIY medicating, and by then generations of kids suiciding and my entire adult life would have been wasted in depression.

I wish I could freeze myself for 20 years and come back then. Existing right now is just too painful and I'm not sure I can stand feeling like this for 20 years, no-one should have to feel like this for 20 seconds. 😟

My only option would be moving somewhere, but I have a chronically ill wife and many countries their national health insurance doesn't kick in immediately, and so I'd be screwing her over.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-children-could-be-‘forced-to-medically-detransition’-under-leaked-nhs-england-plans.864291/page-2?post=122665695#post-122665695

[Taco Bell Tower]

I just don't think I'll be welcome and I don't think this harmful legislation will get revised until I'm in a nursing home, DIY medicating, and by then generations of kids suiciding and my entire adult life would have been wasted in depression.

I wish I could freeze myself for 20 years and come back then. Existing right now is just too painful and I'm not sure I can stand feeling like this for 20 years, no-one should have to feel like this for 20 seconds. 😟

My only option would be moving somewhere, but I have a chronically ill wife and many countries their national health insurance doesn't kick in immediately, and so I'd be screwing her over.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-children-could-be-‘forced-to-medically-detransition’-under-leaked-nhs-england-plans.864291/page-2?post=122665695#post-122665695

Melody Shreds

Any fucking therapist who is pushing for conversion therapy in kids should be frightened off and lose their fucking job.

Encouraging violence?

[Greatness Gone]

how the fuck is “accusations of bootlicking” a legitimate ban reason

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/helldivers-2-has-been-delisted-on-steam-in-countries-where-psn-isnt-available.862554/page-34?post=122534475#post-122534268

lets see if any major publisher trusts a company with a leadership like arrowhead's CEO.

What was it he did again? Be honest with his customers?

was going to ask "what should musk be doing that he's not" but the answer is clearly "enforce the same standards as era and ban people left and right"

it's always about banning with them, the fear that if people simply hear other ideas that they'll find them more compelling than their own

right now on twitter you literally have equal opportunity to behave the way you like, go argue with the chuds all day, change the culture for the better!

if that makes you "so exhausted" because you HAVE to engage and the chuds aren't getting banned so it feels like there's a never ending stream of them...ask yourself why the same doesn't apply to them

why don't the chuds get tired, do you think?

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[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-will-the-next-star-wars-animated-series-be-about-possible-spoilers.862440/page-2?post=122603517#post-122603517

I unironically want a story about Jarjar or other gungans. Naboo is just such a pretty world and if they tone down the accents it could maybe be a fun kids adventure story that can maybe get a little dark. Something PG.

Indisputably a troll.

[Polident]

Why is it worse for the youth to be fucked over by China than be fucked over by the US? Fox News and twitter run by Elon Musk and youtube are far worse influences than even the worst case scenarios for Tiktok

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tiktok-sues-u-s-government-saying-potential-ban-violates-first-amendment.864363/page-7?post=122663448#post-122663448

Aren’t they ever curious why Douyin is so censored and regulated compared to TikTok? Is China being “sinophobic”?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nothing-fills-me-up-with-existential-dread-than-realizing-im-the-same-age-my-parents-were-when-they-had-me.864798/

I'm visiting my parents this week as I helped my sister move out of her college dorm, and I caught myself looking at my 1-2 year old baby photos and seeing my parents at literally the same age as me in those photos.

Mentally and emotionally, I'm not even close to that. I can't afford a house and I don't even have a partner lol I can't even have a kid even if I wanted one right now...

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nothing-fills-me-up-with-existential-dread-than-realizing-im-the-same-age-my-parents-were-when-they-had-me.864798/

I'm visiting my parents this week as I helped my sister move out of her college dorm, and I caught myself looking at my 1-2 year old baby photos and seeing my parents at literally the same age as me in those photos.

Mentally and emotionally, I'm not even close to that. I can't afford a house and I don't even have a partner lol I can't even have a kid even if I wanted one right now...

Shut up, Big Show!

[benji]

My point is that the government is not going to actually regulate these other companies. Should've, would've, could've. They're gonna do nothing. Facebook facilitates another genocide and it's gonna be crickets.

Overall I'm tired of having to give a shit about American interests when American interests do nothing for me as a Black person besides entrench my oppression.

Celebrate this win against China. It makes me no difference because frankly I couldn't care about either TikTok or Chinese interests either. But this nationalistic shit is tired.

Because that would be against the law, Nepenthe.

This guy is still not mad:

Marginalized groups will find a place no matter what happens, this is something that is as old as the internet itself.

People would like to keep going forward, not backward where it was much more difficult. Especially as it pertains to how the modern internet functions compared to the wild west era where it was far far worse. Especially for the marginalized. It is very easy a a person who isn't part of hte marginalized to lecture people and say "It'll be finneeeeeee no worries even though this won't affect me I have strong opinions on why this bad thing is a good thing actually."

Letting these social media sites thrive and maintain their power over information is like making a deal with the devil

As opposed to a country wherein Fox News is the way the majority of Americans get their information vs. things like Project 2025 gaining attention and opposition directly as a result of social media, or people largely having a space to openly be against genocide without having "debates" about whether or not it's objectively bad that 30K people are dead with even more displaced.

Tiktok is allowing things not being said in the mainstream media be said on it's platform, great, but I feel like you're not seeing the forest for the trees here because at the end of the day the powers that control the "mainstream media" have their agenda just like Tiktok does and once you're no longer useful to that agenda the exact same thing is going to happen

Citation needed. Tiktok has existed for ages and it has shown no signs of slowing down leftist messaging/organizing. Because it doesn't need to. It's not beholden to the whims of US politicians or lobbying from things like the NRA. That's why it's much easier for leftism to thrive on it as a platform in comparison to twitter which these days, is lierally owned by a nazi, youtube, which assumes you are a nazi if you like star wars or video games so it'll recommend you content directly attacking women and minorities, or facebook, which is owned by a sociopathic libertarian who sold user data to China over the course of a decade in between boosting the alt right.

Bluesky?

Owned by former Twitter CEO who allowed the alt right to flourish on his platform and has nowhere near the amount of functionality or reach.

Threads?

Owned by Meta, aka the company that for more than a decade sold user data to China on top of without the user's consent is using user data to train their AI

Reddit?

Again, a site owned by liberatarians that allow and boost alt right content even when you otherwise have normal interests. We JUST had a thread on this forum where a person complained about being pushed into right leaning content and it was because he watched star wars content. That and the fact that it's yet another example of a social media site falling victim to the AI gold rush

https://www.404media.co/ai-is-poisoning-reddit-to-promote-products-and-game-google-with-parasite-seo/

The reason people have been flocking to Tiktok is because it genuinely offers a valid alternative to American social media companies that're contributed to what is currently the biggest threat in the US. Because it's not China, let alone what they do with the user data THAT META SELLS TO THEM BTW that's the biggest threat to America. It's the current state of the US that is the problem. To the point that talking with non Americans about US politics can genuinely come off as embarassing because we have to acknowledge headass shit like MTG and Lauren Boebert being elected politicians or the fact that our next election is between a rapist who had no business ever being president in the first place vs. a man who statically is incapable of keeping in touch with the needs of people who're the most affected by the current state of America in spite of his best efforts to do so. This is to say nothing about how much lobbying/borderline bribery affects the politics of the American government even if it's at the expense of the people. Like for instance how the NRA makes donations to specific GOP members. Or how Meta pays politicians to malign competition. Or how people like Tom Cotton are paid to promote genocide.

And the Chinese government got caught suppressing their own wrongdoing on the platform

No they didn't. What DID happen is that people investigated via hashtag comparisons whether or not things were being suppressed on the platform. The study, which didn't even have a followup btw, not only had the researchers state that the method used could only lead to inferred conclusions instead of definitive, but ALSO that they needed to test it more. It also didn't take into account things like different user bases, the time periods in which certain hash tags were trending worldwide, (IIRC some were trending before Tiktok was even a thing), AND, despite what people who DON'T use the app constantly say, no, Tiktok does not suppress information about the genocides happening in China. If you even search for the Uyghur tag, THIS is the first result on the website:

Again, users create the content. Meanwhile at Twitter, misinformation thrives and that's genuinely a desire for Elon Musk because in his eyes as much misinformation as possible is a good thing because he sees value in having to "Well actually 🤓" things like racism and transphobia as often as possible.

Again, I agree with your position, but arguing that tiktok is more moral is just dumb

Not more moral, just far far less shitty. Especially as a marginalized person who's been watching every American social media site boost the alt right more and more each year since 2014. And far more of a positive experience because unlike on twitter, which will present me an ad promoting how chromosomes determine our biology and that we need to save sports from trans people, which happened today, I can go on Tiktok and it won't assume I wanna see nazi shit.

If "run by a hostile foreign government" is enough reason for something like this, everyone outside the US should've fucking banned Facebook when y'all were riding the MAGA fascism high for 4 years.

Were? Very unfortunately a very large portion of Americans are still doing that on the daily, and the biggest MSNN promotes his presidency daily while lying to the public about how his trial is unjust. Oh and did I mention that the brainrot goes so deep that if you talk to a MAGA chud about project 2025 they're 100% all in on the fascism?

Literally got caught red handed my dude

Did you not read that article or notice that it's over 4 years old?

They used to control the information on the app but it's gotten far too big and far too global to attempt to do so, (vs. the app they have specifically in China that bows down to the CCP's whims).

Unless you're implying that Tiktok in 2024 is identical to how the app was five years ago, two years after it launched including the way it handled information and way before it exploded to the level of popularity it has now. Because speaking of for example, Tiananmen Square, which is used an example of suppressed information per the guidelines released half a decade ago, there are more than 10 million visible posts about the topic and the ones critical of China are frontloaded. Same with information about the Uyghur genocide. Two things people say Tiktok intentionally suppresses.

We also shouldn't ignore the giant elephant in the room that young Americans are gonna be spending far more time complaining about America being shitty than they are about what's going on in China. Especially on a platform wherein lobbied politicians have trouble spreading that kind of messaging vs. people wanting them to actually do their jobs. And because the average American is far more directly affected by what the US government is doing at any given time especially as MSNN continuously fail the public, even left leaning ones like CNN.

As a side note, it is also important to note that what Tiktok is currently accused of isn't the suppression of information, rather, the accusation is that it's pushing messaging onto the youth, first and foremost Pro-Palestine content.

Because the reality that the youth don't support genocide/war in general is too difficult to handle for the politicians who were already adults when President "You're either with us or against us i'm gonna fight a war and lead the US into a recession" was the choice.

Not that Tiktok itself, nor the CCP is spreading misinformation. Let alone the popularity of such videos vs opposing views. Actually looking into it, all of the articles you've linked have been a look into how Tiktok's algorithm functions as opposed to it deliberately pushing misinformation onto the userbase. Let alone acknowledging that due to the sheer size of the fanbase that yes an algorithm hat responds to what you search for by actually feeding you content related directly to it instead of tangentially also applies to people who are going down a rabbit hole of misinformation about topics. Or making it comparable let alone just as bas as the websites literally responsible for the rise of the alt right in America. Hell, i've had Tiktok throughout the Russian Ukraine conflict, and i've never once been presented with misinformation on the topic or a pro Russian perspective. However, if say, a new account were to search for pro Russian views, that's what they'll incresingly get fed overtime because Tiktok doesn't function like a forum, twitter thread, YT comment section, etc.

Hell, the only time I see alt righters is when leftists briefly play a section of their video only to interrupt and debunk the info. This, is an incredibly preferable alternative to again, going on twitter, and needing an extension to automatically block anyone stupid enough to give a billionaire $10 a month, or getting ads that're straight up transphobia. The fact that it doesn't push "opposing views" is what makes it so good to use in the first place. And is part of the reason the youth is flocking to it instead of watching their grandparents post brainrot on facebook and now twitter.

Btw it's probably not a good idea to support a ban of what's most likely the only place the youth can get unfiltered info about what's going on during a historical moment on US college campuses while MSNN downplay the police brutality that's being directed at peaceful campus protests. MSNN that're also simultaneously misrepresenting how "violent" the protestors are after months of severely downplaying the realities of an ongoing genocide.

Like just on that ground ALONE no one should be supporting this especially when the people involved are openly stating that the youth not falling for the gaslighting is a problem. Or directly stating that China is the reason Americans are pissed about America's BS.

Again, the article where they relied purely on hashtags straight up admitted that the method used wasn't enough to draw a definitive conclusion about which hashtags are being used and how things get discussed on entirely different apps. Let alone the differing interests of the userbases, the differences in demographics at points in time, and the userbase sizes because Tiktok was not as popular five years ago as it is today where something like organizing to have direct action during protests was far easier due to how many users use the app now.

They say one picture is worth a thousand words:

They also say that a post indicates whether or not someone has read the thread before posting. You sound so proud of posting this picture that has been refuted from an article that's been refuted multiple times ITT.... 🙃

I don't want the youth to be fucked with by China.

What could China do to possibly make the youth more unhappy with the US when the US is dojng a bangup job and making younger generations unhappy with the current state of affairs. Do you think banning Tiktok will make that sentiment go away in anyway shape or form?

We underestimated Russia and look what's happening

We didn't underestimate Russia, we literally observed what Russia was doing, spoke about it, got ignored by MSNN that downplayed the severity of it as well as the rise of the alt right in general circa 2014. Meanwhile Facebook and Twitter literally did the opposite of addressing the problem and instead boosted that content on their platforms, while simultaneously selling user data to China btw.

I guess you didn't read my entire post? There was text under the picture you didn't address. The diagram you quoted is not central to my argument at all. Even if it didn't exist, the rest of my argument would stand by itself.

Please re-read my post.

I did address the text in your post, it was scaremongering BS that again, has already been refuted multiple times ITT and across multiple Tiktok threads. Three generations of Americans have far more pertinent things to worry about than the hypothetical of China doing anything to affect the US youth's opinion of the US. You have no leg to stand on because people don't give a shit about China scaremongering. That doesn't work in 2024. Again, especially as it pertains to the youth.

People in their twenties aren't worried about China, they're worried about a housing crisis, loss of human rights, unaffordable healthcare, an increasingly dystopian/fascist home country, the failings of late stage capitalism, demonization via "this generation is ruining everything" messaging from the news, lack of gun control, lack of safety nets, etc.

Why is it worse for the youth to be fucked over by China than be fucked over by the US? Fox News and twitter run by Elon Musk and youtube are far worse influences than even the worst case scenarios for Tiktok

Right wing extremism is literally the biggest threat to the US and Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube wrote the book on how to radicalize the youth most especially young white men yet somehow TikTok is the threat because China bad/US good is meant to be a universal truth as if the US hasn't committed a genocide within the last decade let alone the systemic injustices that're ingrained in America.

That's what gets me at the end of the day. "China will manipulate our youth!"

Into thinking what? That the US isn't perfect?

If "run by a hostile foreign government" is enough reason for something like this, everyone outside the US should've fucking banned Facebook when y'all were riding the MAGA fascism high for 4 years.

This is why I like the law NY State is trying to get done, it targets the content algorithms specifically and across the board. That's the real problem here, not the "hostile foreign government" nonsense. And it is nonsense because even without tiktok all these nations that fed us concern trolls and fake news in the last two elections will do the exact same thing again and again. The problem is the algorithms feed us a diet of this stuff and make sure that it's nonsense tailored for us to believe.

Let's be real here: tiktok should win this on the merits. It's unfair that they are being specifically targeted when they aren't the only problem here.

It looks to me like the previous Montana and Trump executive orders specifically named TikTok (and WeChat in the latter). This new bill didn't say that but is more broad in that it's saying they want divestment from a list of unfriendly countries, so to speak. I am no lawyer though, so I guess there is one law professor who says that's no bueno. I do think this will be in legal battle for a while so we shall see how that goes.

Honestly, I imagine they'll lose on first amendment grounds. Even though it doesn't say it's targeting them, it's literally the only app affected. Not like Russia is putting out some hot new app.

This has nothing to do with the First Amendment but what you want would. When's he going to promote this as the case that changes journalism forever?  

I wonder what the inevitable Supreme Court breakdown will be on the ruling overall. This doesn't seem like a straight forward conservative verses liberal issue.

It's probably not getting anywhere near there. This isn't a complicated topic.

Perhaps I can clarify. You are no doubt aware of the fuckery that Russia engaged in using Facebook in 2016. I am concerned about the same kind of stuff, but more subtle and effective because the PRC would control the platform whereas Russia had to use bots / troll farms who were at risk of being found out and banned by Meta.

Whatever propaganda China is supposedly using to radicalized the kids on tiktok is gonna pale in comparison to the dystopian reality they are experiencing in real life. China didn't order riot police on college students. Or burden them with crushing debt. Or divest from public infrastructure, education and healthcare in pursuit of profit. They don't need misinformation to radicalize the youth against the government. They just need to give the youth a platform and that's what they did.

 

Just wanted to address this.

The misinformation on social media platforms and how they spread is literally my top concern and what I think is one of the biggest threads to humanity at this point along with climate change.

Tiktok, compared to other social media platforms, at least on the American side of things, has recently (as of just last year afaik) built a dedicated misinformation team and actively addresses issues such covid 19 misinformation, election misinformation, and dangerous conspiracy theories. That shit is no longer even allowed to be spread on the platform, while other sites will at most slap a label on the misinformation that people will largely ignore.

At least in my experience, in the industry they are doing a far better job of controlling the spread of misinformation than other platforms.

Of course they aren't going to get it all, that's impossible for anyone, but I can say progress is at least being made.

                          gaslighting by a TikTok employee?

[Chumbawumbafan69]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nothing-fills-me-up-with-existential-dread-than-realizing-im-the-same-age-my-parents-were-when-they-had-me.864798/?post=122662740

That's not a knock on you, that's a knock on the systemic issues you were born into. You can't hold yourself to the same standards your parents were held to when the tools they had no longer exist.

It's the systems fault that I'm single.

[benji]

What tools did his parents have that he doesn't?

What about the many tools his parents didn't have that he does?

[Polident]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nothing-fills-me-up-with-existential-dread-than-realizing-im-the-same-age-my-parents-were-when-they-had-me.864798/

I'm visiting my parents this week as I helped my sister move out of her college dorm, and I caught myself looking at my 1-2 year old baby photos and seeing my parents at literally the same age as me in those photos.

Mentally and emotionally, I'm not even close to that. I can't afford a house and I don't even have a partner lol I can't even have a kid even if I wanted one right now...

[Propagandhim]

Prop no longer taking prisoners

on the advice of my security guard, i'm filing federal law reports for every son of a bitch that 'liked' this post. sure is funny.  keep laughing shitheads

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nothing-fills-me-up-with-existential-dread-than-realizing-im-the-same-age-my-parents-were-when-they-had-me.864798/

I'm visiting my parents this week as I helped my sister move out of her college dorm, and I caught myself looking at my 1-2 year old baby photos and seeing my parents at literally the same age as me in those photos.

Mentally and emotionally, I'm not even close to that. I can't afford a house and I don't even have a partner lol I can't even have a kid even if I wanted one right now...

So falls the House of Yinyangfooey...

[BadAss2961]

The Xbots can't cope anymore  

It was clear to me from the start that buying all those studios was just a way for Phil Spencer to make Xbox 'too big to fail' and to fool his boss with carrots on sticks like Minecraft and Call of Duty. Some worked out but the higher ups at MS soured on the whole thing with the Xbox/Activision Blizzard deal, realizing that they couldn't just keep buying studios to starve PlayStation of games and going exclusive with Bethesda/Activision would ruin their bottom line anyway.

Doesn't surprise me. Microsoft likes to go all in before ultimately going bottom line. Lots of pressure and lofty expectations while bringing nothing to the table as a publisher as far as aiding game development. Developers, especially ones that have already carved out a name for themselves, don't improve under their acquisition.

One thing Sony does well is connect all the devs under their umbrella to work as a unit. Guerilla's helping Naughty Dog with this, Santa Monica's helping Insomniac with that... Vice versa, and down the line even to the second and third party devs making games under the publisher.

[Ribosome]

What tools did his parents have that he doesn't?

What about the many tools his parents didn't have that he does?

I'm going to guess his parents are boomers. 

People, especially those in certain online communities, have basically shorthanded the entire boomer generation to mean now retired American upper middle class white collar professionals that evaded economic downturns and effortlessly rode a soaring stock market and real estate in high growth areas. 

Of course it ignores numerous recessions, industry specific downturns, the collapse of manufacturing as a large source of employment, and the decline of rural America and numerous cities that everyone else in that generation potentially went through.

I mean yeah you're not going to buy a house in Silicon Valley before the Internet was ever a twinkle in someone's eye ever again but lol.

[PogiJones]

was going to ask "what should musk be doing that he's not" but the answer is clearly "enforce the same standards as era and ban people left and right"

Not left, just right 

it's always about banning with them

unless it's them or their favorite Chinese-gov't-controlled platform being banned. Then they have a full-on meltdown about how unfair it is.

These people seriously have the minds of 7 year olds. They always go surprised Pikachu face when something they do and advocate for is turned against them, because "but we're the good guys and they're bad, so it's different, no, I don't see how legitimizing this weapon has backfired because I didn't legitimize using it against GOOD GUYS, now did I!" And then they will learn absolutely nothing because they still think they didn't do anything wrong and it's just the bad guys doing the bad things.

"Truce? What do you mean? That makes no sense. The Bad Guys need to stop banning us because we're the Good Guys, meanwhile we should keep banning them because they're the Bad Guys. BTW, check out my Pokémon stuffed animal collection. Ignore the crustiness of their fur."

[benji]

Is it really that hard for people to just have basic human decency and give me complete control and only ever do what I decide I want? It's like they only choose to be cruel instead and make that the entire point.

I'm just so tired. And my Ko-fi is so empty.

[HaughtyFrank]

I really hope they ban tiktok just to piss off Crossing Eden

[Not an Alt Account]

Man, I remember when I had tiktok installed. A sea of cat videos and hot women whoring it out.

Speaking of which:

Daily "would make great  tiktok videos" Sweeney:

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[Snoopy]

Someone creates obvious shitpost thread everyone shitposts in until -

Also I have worked for flat games companies before and I think it really only works at fairly small scale. Even if we stuck to the idea of universal income you would need some degree of hierarchy in place to make sense of anything.

Most of the folks on this forum have no relevant skill set or experience. That's not to say that they can't be valuable to the team but they're going to need a proper structure to bring that out and help them develop.

I think the only other instance that flat works is if all of your employees are very highly skilled. The company that I worked for that was flat largely employed people with PhDs so it was easy to recognise everyone's expertise and get them up to speed in regards to how to work in the team. That doesn't work if you have huge differences in knowledge and experience coming in.

[HardcoreRetro]

Everyone saying Kendrick Lamar won, when he's obviously ducking the FuwaMoco beef.

[Uncle]

What tools did his parents have that he doesn't?

a culture of small town togetherness, even in large towns

his parents probably met at church or a potluck or a bake sale 

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

How can Kendrick even compete?

[AldusMoneyPenny]

I think it boils to platform holders upholding strict rules and policies (especially after the Cyberpunk 2077 mess). 
So if Sony doesn't meet the 'demands' they set for third party games they can't enforce them on others. 

And those policies are usually related to comply with government regulations. If I had to guess, developer fucked around and legal found out using 'only' Steam accounts breaches the EU/GDPR privacy regulations. After all, only the company that you interact with may process necessary personal data unless the parties involved have a data processing agreement in place for the particular service or product which they have arranged through the Steam/PSN account linking. 

So if you use a Steam account, Sony isn't legally able to access your user data (in Germany they have even ruled your IP address is 'personal data') and you are playing on Sony servers (for which they probably have a 'general' privacy policy based on PSN accounts that you 'agree' to when you sign up). When you link your PSN account to your Steam account the additional DPA between Valve/Sony covers the data processing between the accounts. Sony also has quite a few EU funded projects so breaching EU laws would put those at risk.

Companies have to decide to create one version of the game (according to the most 'strict' regulations) or seperate versions for every region and in nearly all cases they stick with a single 'global' version of the game, don't collect any data or don't release it overseas.

And the risk is real, I just signed up for a class-action lawsuit against Google because Android runs Google Services in the background that share your data with Google without consent. 

your thoughts on all this since Sony caved  

"guess those laws weren't a factor?"

Nintex has no idea how GDPR actually works, like lots of people who seem to think companies can only collect data with your explicit consent. 

What tools did his parents have that he doesn't?

a culture of small town togetherness, even in large towns

his parents probably met at church or a potluck or a bake sale 

I think we can admit simultaneously that his parents' generation had an easier time being able to afford a home, college, etc., But also that most of these era posters are fucking idiots.

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I'm trying some freeze peach on neogaf for some reason. Let's see if pans out.