Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Potato]

Ok, Capitalism is Spiraling Out of Control Right?

Like holy shit.

Everything keeps getting more expensive, it seems like every company is trying an approach of "MAKE ALL THE MONEY RIGHT NOW OR EVERYONE IS FIRED!", and just the general quality of shit keeps degrading because all these shareholders are trying to get as much blood from a stone as possible for no other reason than "number go up".

When is this shit going to calm down already??

I will say, without being all crazy about it, it really does feel like all the elites got together recently and said "this shit is gonna crash …. Forget the future, extract everything you can right this moment."

Feels like every exec at a public company has finally realized nothing three quarters matters or is guaranteed. Sacrifice long term health for line go up this quarter.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with Biden's near-double digit inflation.

Climate change has elites speeding up because they know shits gonna boil over once real effects start being felt by large swaths of populations. They're making money while they can.

The "elites" that believe in climate change so much they stopped sailing on yachts, flying on private jets, and buying ocean-front property.

It was out of control when it was founded upon wholesale Indigenous genocide, four centuries of African slavery, and aggressive land theft and economic disenfranchisement.

But yeah, now that farm-raised eggs are $6, there's advertisements on top of advertisements, and global warming in general keeps getting worse, the Westerners are finally panicking.

Yeah, because it was the Global South™ that banished the slave trade, not England and the US. And all the "Indigenous" people were peaceful, prosperous, and all that.

Yep. And considering we know the worst effects of climate change are gonna hit the Global South, they're still not taking it seriously.

Climate refugees to the west, and only the west!

I keep hearing North Americans in here expecting a "breaking point". You just have to look at the third world to see that there is no rock bottom in the exploitation of the middle and lower classes.

I don't think this guy realizes that this is true because of the "elected" Presidents-4-life in many/most Global South™ nations.

I'm not even sure we can call it capitalism anymore. We are increasingly living in a feudal state where everyone must pay to merely exist in society to an increasingly smaller number of richer and richer hands. There is no market, only monopolistic entities occupying each facet of your life engaging in rent seeking behavior.

So even though America and Europe have huge welfare safety nets, since people still have to work for a living to get nice things it's just medieval feudalism all over again, or worse.

Trickle Down Economics has brought the working class to their knees.

And raising the highest marginal tax rates back to 50-70% would solve everything.

i think needing regulation is an implicit admission that capitalism doesn't work. like, if the 'good parts' of capitalism are only possible due to government intervention, then... why do we need the capitalism part. i can't think of the last time i went to a private library to check out a book.

Libraries still have books? I thought they only existed for reeeee posters to use the internet. And lol at this guy acting like he never used his university's library(which are private insofar as they're for the students of the university and not the gen. public) or pretending that the rest of us don't go to Barnes and Noble to avoid the homeless stank and general unpleasantness of the local library.

i am not sure what need there is to gatekeep that knowledge behind a private university/college outside of capitalist incentives.

Because every university library should become a homeless hangout.

Well...universities in this country (at least the public ones) largely WERE free until the mid to late 1960s. You'll find that date popping up A LOT in every question about "why doesn't the US just do things that make sense."

It's the racism.

Yes it's racism that caused universities to stop being as cheap in the 1960s..not the fact that there were an unprecedented number of babies born post-WW2(there's a name for them on the tip of my tongue..), all of whom wanted to be the first in their family to graduate from college..

Went out for groceries this morning and it's wild how expensive it is. It's really scary.

Don't worry, Biden says the inflation is only transitory

The world has never known MORE peace, MORE democracy, MORE intermixing of peoples, and MORE international diplomacy than it knows right now. 

These fucking doom and gloomers are idiots. 

Just over 100 years ago we had come out of a global conflict and were hurtling towards an even bigger global conflict where it took two atomic bombs to bring it to a close. 

People have never been as free, as healthy, as prosperous and as progressive as they are now.

Fuck off all you cunts.

[Potato]

IrishNinja speedrunning getting banned again.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-palestine-the-ongoing-israeli-genocide-in-gaza-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/page-322?post=122896833#post-122896833

Pretty rich for a muslim to accuse the NYT of carrying water for fascists when all his Houthi, Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood, Grey Wolves, Nepenthes and IRGC friends are literally fascists that want to destroy the collective nation of Jewish people.

Fascists are just people who don't agree with me. We should arrest them and put them in re-education camps.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Switch 2 will absolutely handle Rebirth and 16. I dont know why anyone would even be concerned about this. There's gonna be some cutbacks, 60 fps mode will not be present , but the games will run and look fine. Rebirth runs on UE4, a certain wizard game on the same engine can run on Switch 1 with some segmenting.

I do love how Hogwarts Legacy became their Lord Voldemort 

[Potato]

Cricket is canny stupid if you think about it

Cricket is awesome. Any sport you can be built like David Boon and be an "elite" athlete is fine with me.

[Potato]

Sony Ponies on suicide watch, Square Enix pivots to multiplatform for their AAA games, including Nintendo platforms 

[tweet]https://twitter.com/gematsu/status/1789914500705005744?t=bWlOClJzw0SCeUjGEZxOvQ&s=19[/tweet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/square-enix-is-shifting-to-a-multiplatform-strategy.868902/?post=122897298#post-122897298

I'm guessing graphics won't be as ambitious going forward. All good, they tried for a while now and we have quite a few games that will look good on future consoles (not just PS5 Pro) through BC.

Sony fans are the fucking worst. You can laugh at nintenyearolds and xbots all you want, but the Sony Ponies are just absolutely tragic retards. Pure unadulterated seething rage whenever something doesn't go their way. 

[Snoopy]

Another pointless race bait thread -

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lapd-allegedly-lets-a-youtuber-go-without-a-charge-or-a-ticket-after-hitting-someone-with-her-car-while-livestreaming-smoking-cannabis-while-driving.868872/

Some random retard does retard things. I expect Visawife will have posted a full dossier by 5pm

[Uncle]

bit late, but Rowling is the last person who should be talking about sports. Name a stupider fictional sport than quidditch lol

And really, the idea of a woman being able to handle a team of PED filled primadonnas who could break her in two is inherently silly. but y'all ain't ready for that conversation.

imagine a game where going into it you know you have to earn a fucking 16 goal lead in order to secure your win or else it's basically a coinflip, and the coinflip could happen at literally any moment, you have no idea how long you have to earn those goals

 

[Snoopy]

We tried telling y'all this was unsustainable and that MS was subsidizing the losses of GamePass with the profits of other divisions. Eventually the bill would come due. It has come due and as usual it's not the people in charge who made the utterly incompetent decisions who will pay the price.

All I can say is thank heavens MS was so utterly incompetent they were unable to capitalize on their mass subsidization to capture more of the market before the walls started crumbling down on their heads.

Here's a sampling of some of the posts I personally have made over the last 6 years talking about this subject and warning of the sustainability concerns for this model and the incentives it creates. Going back and looking at these and seeing the replies is really something


    RexNovis said:
    My biggest conecern on the sustainability of these streaming and subscription services is how heavily they are subsidized. Eventually these companies will want to trim these into profit drivers and that will end up most likely with a severe tightening of budgets spent on games or an influx of other money making systems like MTX basically making them an absolute must especially for the smallest of projects with shorter playtimes to garner any sort of profit.

    The whole model incentivizes a lot of the modern trends I dislike the most in modern gaming and I'm afraid with how heavily subsidized these subscriptions are that they will take off and eventually further erode the choice and control we have over the software we choose to play or support.


    RexNovis said:
    You are conflating revenue with profit. They are not the same thing. If games pass were profitable MS would be screaming it from the rooftops for their investors. The way they talk about it is absolute proof it is not profitable and of course it isn't. You can't look at what they are paying out for and then look at what people are paying them in subscription fees and think they are equivalent. They are dishing out massive amounts of money to secure content for the service as well as to buy studios and fund tons of games to put out on the service.

    It's seems absolutely obvious that the current GP is a gamble that they can hopefully get a large enough audience to subscribe and then hopefully rely less on buying third party content down the road and more on just finding internally developed projects. People expecting that the value they have now will remain the same going into the future will be disappointed. This is the life phase. Once they've hooked a big enough audience they will be revising the costs they incur to ensure profitability as that is ALWAYS the end goal.

    some are (rightfully imo) concerned that this will mean a shift in design that priorities supplementary revenue streams in their in house developed games. I think this is a natural shift that we will begin to see more of once the company starts to prioritize profit over increasing market share. It's a way to ensure that gaining admittance to software at low costs will not diminish the income potential of that software and imo it's a natural evolution of this sort of subscriber model.Alternatively profit could be maximized by limiting cost of software meaning projects across the board see a lower investment or slower roll outs. I'd argue we are already starting to see this with stuff like Sea of Thieves, State of Decay 2 and even Halo Infinite. Either way Something will have to give to ensure profit is maximized.
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    RexNovis said:
    Yea in my experience massive companies hate inefficiency and redundancies and seem to stamp anything resembling either out with gleeful quickness which is why this situation as described seems so bizarre to me.

    Then again perhaps it's just the sign of these mergers and acquisitions happening so fast and rampantly that they seek to preserve as much of the existing structure to minimize friction and effort in their part to actually consolidate them into their management/development pipeline.

    Either way, it does seem pretty realistic to expect them to trim the fat eventually. Just no way of knowing how far out that is.



    You don't? I thought Disney had a splash screen ahead of Pixar films. I guess Marvel is a good example though. I don't believe there's a Disney splash ahead of marvel productions just the marvel one.

    To me though that's just like a perfect representation of why all these mergers and acquisitions are getting out of hand. These big companies want to gobble up all these other brands and then can't even be bothered to fully merge them with their own company instead just assuming ownership and essentially passively absorbing all the perks therein. Sorta like a landlord buying up property. Yea they may be called into fix a problem or pay for a repair or something but for the most part they just let the cash roll in and pay off their debts for them. I guess this is just how these massive mergers are handled now though.



    First off I have to say "Katamari of doom" is absolutely brilliant. Will be adding that to my lexicon.

    So what I'm getting is that the desire to preserve and exploit powerful brand names is changing the way mergers are handled nowadays.

    I feel like that sorta proves that these companies are buying up other sizable companies at such a pace that they basically just let them continue as a separate entities instead of properly merging them into the existing business structure is just that much more of testament to this consolidation being incredibly rushed and unsustainable.

    As another mentioned above I can't see this split management structure lasting past a big downturn in spending or revenue where management will understandably look to trim out inefficiency and redundancies.
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    RexNovis said:
    Now that subscriber counts are plateauing across all gaming subscriptions we are going to start transitioning from the growth phase to the profit maximizing phase. Expect costs to increase and spending belts to be tightened going forward across the board.

    Thank heavens these services didn't grow to the point of having a stranglehold on the market at large.


    RexNovis said:
    The re is a major difference between these acquisitions and other major Tech acquisitions. While most tech acquisitions are focused around platforms, services or technology the recent MS acquisitions revolve around entertainment and an inherently creative driven process.

    Creative driven products have to be managed in a completely different way than other tech related concerns. It's more akin to managing movie productions or book publishing. They're entirely different skill sets. Thus purchasing existing studios with existing successful products doesn't guarantee those studios will continue to release successful products. Issues with management and creative talent retention become the determining factors.

    When you look at the MS has managed studios in the past it just does not seem like they understand how to properly manage that creative process well. Their answer to this with their recent acquisitions has been to essentially cede all management and control of production over to the staff that already exists at these studios/publishers. Theoretically this should work but it is also heavily dependent on keeping those key leads in play. Already we are starting to see major parties in these acquired companies leave (for example Pete Hines, various leads and heads of studios at places like Blizzard, Arkane and Tango Gameworks etc). What's more this talent retention has historically been an issue for them as well such as losing key figures like Rod Ferguson at the Coalition who, ironically enough, left to go work at Blizzard and helped them to deliver Diablo 4. Point being, if they can't retain that vital talent then that strategy just ends up collapsing.

    In my opinion, the key thing to watch to give a better indication of how all these acquisitions will pan out for them will be talent retention and given their history in the industry I'm just not convinced they will be able to retain the talent they desperately need to retain to make it all work long term.
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    RexNovis said:
    People were consistently pointing out that the revenue model would need to change or the general structure of GamePass would need to change because it didn't add up. The only way to make a service like that feasible is an extremely broad subscriber base. It's clear that was what their management was pushing for but their goals for subscribers were absurd for a service tied to a platform so they tried to broaden it with streaming to other devices but the market for a subscription service like this just isn't large enough to support the ongoing costs involved with producing, acquiring and publicizing the content for it. You can only subsidize losses for so long when the necessary subscriber base isn't manifesting


    RexNovis said:
    Just because they've kept it running for however many years by funding it with outside revenue does not make it sustainable. That's not what sustainable means.

    You had MS PR coming out and saying it was "profitable" with no indication of what sort of costs they were factoring into that profitability calculation. For all we knew they were just saying it made more than it cost in the over head to run it and not factoring in development costs or acquisition costs.

    You're right none of us are entitled to that financial info but it's pretty telling how tight lipped MS is about all the financial information surrounding their gaming division. Their disclosures are a joke. When you have that sort of vague disclosure it's natural to assume there's data that they want to obfuscate or hide.

    So absent that data we can go off the things we do know: the cost of game development, the number of games they are developing and putting in their service, the numbers of games they are paying third parties to out on their service and a general estimate of the total subscriber base. That basic math has never added up and it won't add up unless their subscriber count grows multiple times over. That's precisely why their subscriber growth goals were what they were because that growth was needed to make the model a stable sustainable model for them going forward. That did not happen. Growth has been anemic compared to the numbers that would've been necessary.

    There were lots of people pointing out the difficulties of this model and why the idea of subsidizing it with external revenue in hopes of promoting mass growth on scale that would make the costs involved profitable was just not realistic and that the model was unsustainable. The community response to that analysis was to literally make a meme out of "it's not sustainable" and laugh at everyone talking about it. Shouting them down whenever a post was made pointing out the glaringly obvious reality. The only thing that's changed now is that the growth has finally stagnated long enough that corporate no longer wants to subsidize the cost of the project and is demanding a return on investment which is exactly what people were saying was going to occur it was just a matter of how high of a tolerance corporate would have.
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    RexNovis said:
    Why should we care? Because when you have a company willing to subsidize a subscription model to the degree that MS has been it devalues the games themselves and creates a negative value proposition for more sustainable modes of creating and publishing games. Hell even the more traditional models are verging on unsustainable levels at this point. The answer here isn't to dump money into something that makes things even more tenuous. Nobody can afford to subsidize a service like the most valuable company in the world can. It's a move to capture the market. So pointing out how the only reason it is happening is because the company doing it is throwing external funds at it regardless of actual profitability is pretty damn important.

    You clearly have no interest in listening to or considering the realities of this model and its lack of profitability. Nor do you seem to care to consider the impact of that model on the broader market. The fact that you're bringing up Netflix as a comparison point given the major issues it led to with talent compensation and media valuation for which we just had the longest SAG strike ever proves my point more than you realize.

    But yea you're free to keep subscribing. Nobody is saying otherwise. Just don't say we didn't warn you or anyone else here about the realities in store.
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    RexNovis said:
    It is saying that after a title has debuted on games pass sales for that title over the course of the following 12 months are notably lower (redacted%) and that has given even Microsoft executives themselves pause and driven exchanges between them about whether it is worth the loss in direct sales.

    The fact that this was a concern for them internally and also a concern for third parties but the public messaging was either "game pass users buy more games" or "don't worry about it" is at the very least incredibly misleading.

    And no, the fact that this might be obvious to you does not mean that everyone knew or understood this. We still have people in this very thread trying to find ways to discredit the CMA report and uphold previous PR from MS on this.


    The irony is that this stance is exactly the sort of devaluing of games folks are saying these subscription services lead to. Thanks to the presence of these subscriptions you are not buying the games that you otherwise likely would have because they now seem too expensive to you. Of course, you are free to feel that way it's not a crime but it very much is a byproduct of these subscription platforms.

    There is a reason Nintendo games sell for so long at full price with such long tails. Because Nintendo have established a reputation for maintaining the value of their software over the long term. That means people are less likely to wait for a price drop or hold out for inclusion of titles in some subscription because they know these are not an option. People misconstrue IP protection and valuation as "anti consumer" now because of the presence of these cheaper options on other platforms that are subsidizing the cost of titles and lowering the cost of entry to a point where it's not feasible for other competitors to be sufficiently profitable.
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Source

    RexNovis said:
    Acquisitions and consolidation lead to the loss in the effectiveness of labor to organize and advocate for themselves regardless of the lip service paid towards honoring union contracts. It further exacerbates the mass imbalance of power and influence between labor and capital and inevitably leads to the loss of jobs. People losing their livelihoods because they are either deemed redundant or an acceptable loss in an effort for a major conglomerate behemoth to cut costs and pad their profit margins.

Source

40 yr old


 https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-is-shutting-down-arkane-austin-tango-gameworks-and-alpha-dog-games-roundhouse-studios-absorbed-by-zenimax-online-studios.863997/page-118?post=122897205#post-122897205

[kaleidoscopium]

Yes, he tagged it as a joke as a preemptive defense but we know the far-right never joke to be funny or insightful, they joke in order to hurt others and confess to cruelty they are already doing or very much want to do. As a way of openly communicating their hate to other conservatives to create a shared culture of enmity.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-mcentee-senior-advisor-to-project-25-claims-he-distributes-fake-money-to-homeless-people-to-get-them-arrested-when-they-use-it.868905/?post=122901594#post-122901594

FUCK this guy, "joke" or not.

[HaughtyFrank]

Another pointless race bait thread -

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lapd-allegedly-lets-a-youtuber-go-without-a-charge-or-a-ticket-after-hitting-someone-with-her-car-while-livestreaming-smoking-cannabis-while-driving.868872/

Some random retard does retard things. I expect Visawife will have posted a full dossier by 5pm

Fact: A white person has never been arrested by the police!

[killamajig]

IrishNinja speedrunning getting banned again.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-palestine-the-ongoing-israeli-genocide-in-gaza-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/page-322?post=122896833#post-122896833

Taking a swing like that at the mods right after getting banned means he's got an ALT all ready to go. You know he's not leaving that place. Where else is he going to get his virtue signaling rush? Why do I get the feeling IrishChe is like Nep fighting the revolution from behind a keyboard never getting their hands dirty.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/square-enix-is-shifting-to-a-multiplatform-strategy.868902/page-3?post=122897889#post-122897889
ZeoVagina

I am very excited for "Fun"

Oh, I bet.

[killamajig]

Rant:

I would have more respect for these "revolutionaries" if I saw some sacrifice. At least noodlesoup got himself arrested (even though it's a misdemeanor trespass charge that might get dismissed) They literally couldn't keep up a protest because they couldn't figure out how to feed themselves. 

How are you going to overthrow capitalism when you don't want it to cut into your time praising Sony, Marvel, sexual repression, censorship, Totalitarianism, harassment, terrorism ect. 

The blatant doublethink that goes on in that place is stupefying.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/say-something-nice-about-another-member-on-gaming-side-2024-edition.801048/page-3?post=122896359#post-122896359

Late (in my timezone), but let's tip our hats to the empathetic moms of the site, like

You’ll never guess who he’s talking about

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[USER=164181]Twohearts[/USER].

awww thank you
Not quite literally a mum, but I do look after my parter-system's littles so I guess that counts for something. Still, I'm at least mum adjacent and some of them do call me mama.
Good luck to all the mum's on here, had a good enough day wiht my mum yesterday and my littles wished a happy mother's day to my girlfriend today since she's in america.

[Puffy Fucking Baby]

[Straight Edge]

Literally disgusting.

[kaleidoscopium]

What the fuck 

[Propagandhim]

That has got to be a kiwifarms person and their buddy fucking around.  There's just no way.

[kaleidoscopium]

Something about chuds and terffs I've always wondered, do they actually get joy for their miserable diatribes and getting angry? Like are they such self-loathing that they’re just lashing out anything or everything? Like they never actually seem to have fun, just spend their day getting angry.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-117?post=122911605#post-122911605

Something about transbians and hamas supporters I've always wondered, do they actually get joy for their miserable diatribes and getting angry? Like are they such self-loathing that their just lashing out anything or everything? Like they never actually seem to have fun, just spend their day getting angry.

[AldusMoneyPenny]

Chaseex came at the queen - big mistake:

It was out of control when it was founded upon wholesale Indigenous genocide, four centuries of African slavery, and aggressive land theft and economic disenfranchisement.

But yeah, now that farm-raised eggs are $6, there's advertisements on top of advertisements, and global warming in general keeps getting worse, the Westerners are finally panicking.

If by out of control you mean lifting billions of people from poverty, saving countless more with advances in science, technology, and medicine, and providing a quality of life to the average person that not even a king could dream of just a few hundred years ago, sure.

But the indigenous people and the slavery. Yeah, that was awful, although not even remotely unique to America or capitalism. History is nothing but conquest, every country is built from it. And we fought a war to do away with slavery. Plenty of other economic and political systems came and went, none dealing with these problems nearly as well.

We will see what happens in the next 100 years, but the previous 100 were unequivocally won by Western capitalists. It would make a hell of a lot more sense to put some tighter guardrails on the current system then tear it down to replace with… what exactly? Eastern authoritarian surveillance state? Finally setting up the socialist utopia, except this time do it right? I believe that.

I thought the last time we talked, I told you not to talk to me. Maybe I didn't; if not, my bad. I'll address this then.

Also, [citation needed]

Absolutely, and Capitalism inevitably crumbles, but be warned, there's a LOT of Capitalist simps around. They're like Homer and Bart chasing that pig. "It's still good, it's still good"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ok-capitalism-is-spiraling-out-of-control-right.868842/post-122895930

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/say-something-nice-about-another-member-on-gaming-side-2024-edition.801048/page-3?post=122896359#post-122896359

Late (in my timezone), but let's tip our hats to the empathetic moms of the site, like

You’ll never guess who he’s talking about

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[USER=164181]Twohearts[/USER].

awww thank you
Not quite literally a mum, but I do look after my parter-system's littles so I guess that counts for something. Still, I'm at least mum adjacent and some of them do call me mama.
Good luck to all the mum's on here, had a good enough day wiht my mum yesterday and my littles wished a happy mother's day to my girlfriend today since she's in america.

Not quite literally a mum, but I do look after my parter-system's littles so I guess that counts for something

This is the same person who wants to hurt children 

[books]

Who the fuck is irishninja and what is he on about is what I imagine most posters are thinking.

[Besticus Maximus]

I can't believe you people would go out there and dehumanise Two Heart's partners' littles 

[Taco Bell Tower]

Sorry, boss 

[Ethan]

Ain't that convenient to pretend that that sole reason people are not revolting against capitalism is that they're merely trying to survive, and not that they might actually like it like that.

TwoHeart, if you read this, please add to the lore that one little is a communist and one little is a capitalist, causing much frictions during play dates.

[Ribosome]

Going by the pictures of a certain house, the system seemed to have worked out good for some people.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hopeless-and-broken-why-the-worlds-top-climate-scientists-are-in-despair.868623/?post=122879247#post-122879247

At some point I think people globally will need to consider inaction and active efforts by politicians to block action on climate as a direct attack against them, their families and their communities, warranting of self-defense.

This is where I'm at.

Billions of people are being held hostage by a comparatively few amount of politicians and billionaires, oil barons, and military industrial complex folks. Whatever happens to these classes as the planet heats up is simply what happens at this point.

They don't even know what they want but they're angry that people aren't doing it. And they want to do violence against them for not doing what they won't say.

Nepenthe using "classes" so broadly but at the same time trying to hint that it's a handful of people (so not actually a "class") is very fun.

I will say, without being all crazy about it, it really does feel like all the elites got together recently and said "this shit is gonna crash …. Forget the future, extract everything you can right this moment."

Feels like every exec at a public company has finally realized nothing three quarters matters or is guaranteed. Sacrifice long term health for line go up this quarter.

Climate change has elites speeding up because they know shits gonna boil over once real effects start being felt by large swaths of populations. They're making money while they can.

It was out of control when it was founded upon wholesale Indigenous genocide, four centuries of African slavery, and aggressive land theft and economic disenfranchisement.

But yeah, now that farm-raised eggs are $6, there's advertisements on top of advertisements, and global warming in general keeps getting worse, the Westerners are finally panicking.

I'm not even sure we can call it capitalism anymore. We are increasingly living in a feudal state where everyone must pay to merely exist in society to an increasingly smaller number of richer and richer hands. There is no market, only monopolistic entities occupying each facet of your life engaging in rent seeking behavior.

i think needing regulation is an implicit admission that capitalism doesn't work. like, if the 'good parts' of capitalism are only possible due to government intervention, then... why do we need the capitalism part. i can't think of the last time i went to a private library to check out a book.

Well...universities in this country (at least the public ones) largely WERE free until the mid to late 1960s. You'll find that date popping up A LOT in every question about "why doesn't the US just do things that make sense."

It's the racism.

They're so weird. There's no explanation for why capitalism has to collapse other than they say it will because... Marx said so? Except even he didn't say that, he said it has to max out first. And the contradiction he identified doesn't make sense even if we assume that "inverse" Hegelian dialectics are the meaning of life. (They aren't.)

Then we have these things that aren't even remotely true. Capitalism wasn't founded on any of those things, the good parts of capitalism are not those where the state makes monopolies that the previous poster complained about, and colleges were definitely not free before 1960. The GI Bill was payment for military service, that wasn't free for anyone else. College before that was extremely limited to the elites.

But God forbid we actually do something to stop this bullshit, because even the bare minimum efforts to reign in the excesses of capital get castigated as "socialism," even though most Americans wouldn't know actual socialism even if it jumped up and bit them in the ass.

If it were up to me, all these big megacorps would be broken up and the fragments converted into worker-owned co-ops, where the employees regardless of station vote on who their bosses are. I guess you could call me a "market socialist." I have no idea how such a system would actually work (I'm not an economist)

These guys can't even define socialism just like they can't define capitalism.

What would a market socialist be? A capitalist if they pick the market. A socialist if they pick central planning.

And demanding "we actually do something to stop this bullshit" even though they can't identify the bullshit let alone what would stop it.

Also, [citation needed]

Absolutely, and Capitalism inevitably crumbles, but be warned, there's a LOT of Capitalist simps around. They're like Homer and Bart chasing that pig. "It's still good, it's still good"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ok-capitalism-is-spiraling-out-of-control-right.868842/post-122895930

And here we are back with the cope again. Sure, capitalism is the greatest thing ever in its field but it's "inevitably" going to crumble. Even though it never has. Anywhere. It has to fail at some point because IT UPSETS ME!

Sure, the alternatives are worse, but at least they'll won't "inevitably crumble"! Well, unless any tiny part of the market comes back like every socialist state allowed eventually leading to the crumbling of socialism because the abolishment of trade for central planning doesn't work in complex economies. But on the upside we'll all be poor and controlled by a self-selected elite so things won't be so anxiety causing!

[benji]

"JUST LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE" scream the people who want everything to be surveilled and controlled by the state so everyone knows their place in the hierarchy and nothing ever changes without political elite permission.

[Snoopy]

There have always been rumours that Nep is an IDF plant. When you see her refusing point blank to acknowledge Brother Noodle’s protests and how Palestinian Ree have all been wiped out. Well, it raises questions doesn’t it.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-palestine-the-ongoing-israeli-genocide-in-gaza-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/page-322?post=122918631#post-122918631

Wow, the latest ban against Nola is outright disgusting. The administration might as well come out and say they just want opinions pre-approved by White liberals. What a joke of a forum! Is it the problem that we're too brown for your tastes? Y'all haven't even had the decency to show up your faces around here to apologize after your latest pathetic stunt and here we are again with the same BS...

Are you going to take that, B-Duds?